@@lorikmurati7853 no it will increase your delay if you enable lossless but there's a setting (allow tearing) which will reduce delay by some bit or better depends on games
@@okuyomben7326 no lol, they are fake frames, they increase delay, the game keep running at the base fps, and no, you can do 30 to 60 fps and not necessarily have a 120 hz monitor, just a 60 hz, you need a 120 hz if you are going from 60 to 120
Depends on the base FPS. 30 with 2X is already bad, but somewhat acceptable if you can lock the framerate with good frame pacing, any lower FPS is just terrible. 60 with 3x isn't that bad. Haven't tested 4x up because I don't have a higher refresh rate display.
It's not even about input lag, but overall latency and responsiveness. It doesn't matter for me if I have a lot of frames when game still feels like 30fps
Tip - You have to run the game with the GPU at 80% or less to give LS some headroom to work. There are no "free" frames here. You can either use in game DLSS/FSR or run in a window and use LS to Upscale and frame gen. I just tried it on an old laptop I have with a 1050 4Gb (non-Ti) but the CPU is what is holding it back. Other less demanding games worked fine (eg BG3 I locked at 30fps and LS up to 60fps no problem).
I'm using AMD laptop with Vega iGPU and discrete NVIDIA 1650, the Lossless scaling use the Vega for FG and upscaling so that there is no performance penalty on my 1650.
I tried on bg3. have you faced any issue like your main character entering through a companion/door like no texture and stuff. Also some dialogues are stuck and not loading. I tried on 3.0 with x2 framegen, vsync enabled in game, borderless mode. I've tried reloading the game without it and loaded previous saves but result still same.
abi 4x aslında oynanabilir mesela benim laptop eski ve ekran kartı olmayan arkadaşımla aynı performansı alıyorum neredeyse hiçbir modern oyunu oynayamıyorum GTA 5 lowda fsr açık bi şekilde ancak 40-50 fps alabiliyorum bu lossless scaling sayesinde highta 60 fpse ulaştım lag o kadar sıkıntı olmuyo oyun sulu boya olsunda kasmasın bakış açısında olursan gayet güzel yeni bir pc alcam ve onda bile kullanmayı düşünüyorum
which version of lossless is this ? mine is 2.11 beta and the frame generation is not working and instead i have 10 fps , was working fine , last few days it doesnt work anymore , any idea why it doesnt work ?
Я всё время использую lossless scaling для фильмов, которые 30 кадров в сек или меньше дают и резкость увеличиваю для видео 2к монитора в 2к разрешения - намного приятнее смотреть
@@attaboydanny it's really awful because it doesnt not have access to game files. instead of lossless scaling, if u use fsr mods that injects dlls, it'll be much more responsive.
why does the lossless scaling fps counter say 20/80 while the fps counter on your other program says 20 too. what does the 80 mean here? is the fps the game is being played at 20 or 80 in this case?
i think there is no need to compare amd/nvidia/intel upscaling tech but the important message here is, why is a simple software capable to do 4x frame gen without needing of a ai gpu thing like our leather jacket master was trying to t(s)ell us?^^ isnt it funny, and btw lossless scaling was able to do that about last year already, before nvidia came up with this, so either nvidia steal this idea or someone from lossless scaling is working for nvidia and just steal the idea to take it for their/his own software O,o
People I want you to know that lossless scaling won't save your graphics cards.. yes it can x4 your frame rates but unless you are already close to 60fps base, your actual game play will feel weird.. the game will act as you have 4x times the frame rate but the latency will make it feel like you are still at base framerate if not less!, it's also adviced you cap your fps for better gameplay, saying from 60fps base to cap it a bit less by x4 to say 200 fps, from 60fps by 2x to 100fps etc.. you'll see the best results this way!.
Yes, and 3x/4x. It's something they still can't get rid off. And the most annoying thing about it is it's always around the head of the character. So it's always distracting
Artifacts are still present around the head in almost all games. I noticed how you was trying to minimise the camera movement 😆 Pan it 360 and those artifacts are too distracting not to notice. Lossless scaling is great BUT only in certain situations. I'm glad it's available but it still needs more work. Latency is expected but artifacts ruin the experience
remember folks always cap your fps for better frame pacing it will give you smooth experience than uncap fps
is the game less delayed when you turn on lossless scaling
@@lorikmurati7853 no it will increase your delay if you enable lossless but there's a setting (allow tearing) which will reduce delay by some bit or better depends on games
@@lorikmurati7853 if you can increase the fps you get to 60 instead of 30, you can play games with less delay, but you need a 120 hz screen.or more
@@Raghav-gd3fnor use g sync if ur monitor supports it
@@okuyomben7326 no lol, they are fake frames, they increase delay, the game keep running at the base fps, and no, you can do 30 to 60 fps and not necessarily have a 120 hz monitor, just a 60 hz, you need a 120 hz if you are going from 60 to 120
rest in peace gtx 1050 ti
nah bro ain't dying no more 💀
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that was already a stillborn card.
I literally can feel the input lag just watching this video. But LS is getting better and better so I keep my hopes.
X2 is perfectly playable. X3 and X4 are still not that great right now.
3X acceptable but 4X worse.
after playing around with lossless and x4 for a while, input lag now pretty much doesnt bother me at all, brain and hand got used to it
I play wuthering waves at 3x and yes it's playable and enjoyable
@@saikatsaha4122trash game so invalid comment
Depends on the base FPS. 30 with 2X is already bad, but somewhat acceptable if you can lock the framerate with good frame pacing, any lower FPS is just terrible.
60 with 3x isn't that bad. Haven't tested 4x up because I don't have a higher refresh rate display.
This feels like the computer is just hallucinating the actual gameplay, and not running the games itself :lmao:
bro, they just made 1080TI undead now! He will live forever!
It's not even about input lag, but overall latency and responsiveness. It doesn't matter for me if I have a lot of frames when game still feels like 30fps
just imagine what people could have done with frame generation and fsr on the ps1
Just press curl+alt+s to activate it while in the game itself, that way you don’t have to keep clicking out of the game to activate it. Way faster
Tip - You have to run the game with the GPU at 80% or less to give LS some headroom to work. There are no "free" frames here. You can either use in game DLSS/FSR or run in a window and use LS to Upscale and frame gen.
I just tried it on an old laptop I have with a 1050 4Gb (non-Ti) but the CPU is what is holding it back. Other less demanding games worked fine (eg BG3 I locked at 30fps and LS up to 60fps no problem).
I'm using AMD laptop with Vega iGPU and discrete NVIDIA 1650, the Lossless scaling use the Vega for FG and upscaling so that there is no performance penalty on my 1650.
@@beloncfy I do similar with my 12500H laptop and eGPU, running LS on the iGPU when using the laptop screen.
I tried on bg3. have you faced any issue like your main character entering through a companion/door like no texture and stuff. Also some dialogues are stuck and not loading. I tried on 3.0 with x2 framegen, vsync enabled in game, borderless mode. I've tried reloading the game without it and loaded previous saves but result still same.
how do you feel the gameplay when you play? Does it feel good with framegen on?
abi 4x aslında oynanabilir mesela benim laptop eski ve ekran kartı olmayan arkadaşımla aynı performansı alıyorum neredeyse hiçbir modern oyunu oynayamıyorum GTA 5 lowda fsr açık bi şekilde ancak 40-50 fps alabiliyorum bu lossless scaling sayesinde highta 60 fpse ulaştım lag o kadar sıkıntı olmuyo oyun sulu boya olsunda kasmasın bakış açısında olursan gayet güzel yeni bir pc alcam ve onda bile kullanmayı düşünüyorum
Sulu boya olduktan sonra high'in ne önemi var ki? Low olsun sulu boya olmasın tüm zevki mahvediyor
50ms 💀
Ay play withe 80 ☠
which version of lossless is this ? mine is 2.11 beta and the frame generation is not working and instead i have 10 fps , was working fine , last few days it doesnt work anymore , any idea why it doesnt work ?
Buy better pc
@@pandemiccccok give the money smart ass
for lossless scailing to be effective you must at least have study 60 fps after appling lossless scaling, 1050ti + lossless scailing is nightmare mix
How i can get this scali g thing for my gtx1650
Я всё время использую lossless scaling для фильмов, которые 30 кадров в сек или меньше дают и резкость увеличиваю для видео 2к монитора в 2к разрешения - намного приятнее смотреть
Question is how is the lag input...
awful lol
@@attaboydanny it's really awful because it doesnt not have access to game files. instead of lossless scaling, if u use fsr mods that injects dlls, it'll be much more responsive.
Can you do a benchmark of upscaling from 1080p to 4k
So, let me get this straight, you LOST frames???
When you editing the recorded video, you're using Optical Flow when exporting the video right?
I know I can see it
I think it's because of the Lossless Scaling algorithm. I guess it's a similar technique to Optical Flow
@@mateomatta2381 no, when he didn't use Lossless Scaling, it already shown the effect of Optical Flow from Premiere Pro
is the game on windowed when you activate lossless scaling?
why does the lossless scaling fps counter say 20/80 while the fps counter on your other program says 20 too. what does the 80 mean here? is the fps the game is being played at 20 or 80 in this case?
20 is the base fps and 80 is when its frame generated x4.
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mann wen you set it to 3x is the game smother or only the fps is better
cap fps and use any vrr you have will be much smoother tearing shouldnt happen often setup correctly
bro take the app seriously to the limit, hahahah very good result.
RTX 5050ti ladies and gentlegoons
I think games that already has 40-60 fps can improve from this program.
bros who can help i have huge delay and artefacts with loseless scaling?(gtx 770, its same efficiency as 1050ti)
i think there is no need to compare amd/nvidia/intel upscaling tech but the important message here is, why is a simple software capable to do 4x frame gen without needing of a ai gpu thing like our leather jacket master was trying to t(s)ell us?^^ isnt it funny, and btw lossless scaling was able to do that about last year already, before nvidia came up with this, so either nvidia steal this idea or someone from lossless scaling is working for nvidia and just steal the idea to take it for their/his own software O,o
100ms en starfield x4 🎉🎉🎉
the most tolerable delay I will consider will be under 24 ms
People I want you to know that lossless scaling won't save your graphics cards.. yes it can x4 your frame rates but unless you are already close to 60fps base, your actual game play will feel weird.. the game will act as you have 4x times the frame rate but the latency will make it feel like you are still at base framerate if not less!, it's also adviced you cap your fps for better gameplay, saying from 60fps base to cap it a bit less by x4 to say 200 fps, from 60fps by 2x to 100fps etc.. you'll see the best results this way!.
already did save gpu,going from 30 to 60 literally give you 2-3years extra of games xd
@@ogaimon3380 Nah i tried it on starfield when i had gamepass in August, it sucks
so lower the base fps, worse the quality will be. Avoid X3 and X4 if the base fps less than 50.
Yeah the 1050 isnt good enough, you need at least a base fps of 30, preferably higher for it to work, you can see the edges bugging in spider man
MS çok artıyor fare hasretlerinden hissediliyor MS is increasing a lot, the delay is felt
Artifacts on x2?
Yes, and 3x/4x. It's something they still can't get rid off. And the most annoying thing about it is it's always around the head of the character. So it's always distracting
Lossless scaling doesnt even help that card lol time for an upgrade
Artifacts are still present around the head in almost all games. I noticed how you was trying to minimise the camera movement 😆 Pan it 360 and those artifacts are too distracting not to notice. Lossless scaling is great BUT only in certain situations. I'm glad it's available but it still needs more work. Latency is expected but artifacts ruin the experience
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Too much latency in X3 and X4😅
Wow 100fps with the input latency of 25 fps 😂
How do you use frame generation in fullscreen mode?
Lossless scaling dont work for slow machine.
It doesnt work even for newer cards, its garbage
@ragestacker why...? I.dont tested on new gfx card.
I know what it shows yet.. it does not look faster then it did at the start. Take Cyber punk.... it shows 20/60 yet still looks like 20fps
I see it makes fps worse
Look at the numbers in the lower right corner.
For example, 25 / 99 means that the game is rendering 25 FPS, Lossless Scaling turns it into 99.
@@MohamedAshraf-vb5kc i see you are blind
@@youdonegoofed thanks bro
@@Raghav-gd3fn You should explain it to me like the person above instead of insulting me.
@@MohamedAshraf-vb5kc you should be asking why it make fps worse instead of saying (it makes fps worse)
This video is a proof there's no hope for GTX 1050 Ti.
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