Ink and Gold Split Odds NERFED!? - Marvel Snap

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  • Опубліковано 20 гру 2024

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  • @richardmccandless2223
    @richardmccandless2223 2 місяці тому +33

    Damn. Feels way shitty. I don't expect SD to address this at all.

  • @NonSequ3ntial
    @NonSequ3ntial 2 місяці тому +14

    Personal experience but I've also noted a significant lack of gold/ink splits lately and never considered the prism changes before, etc.
    It took me well over 12 splits to hit a gold from base, and for the ink I had been chasing it was 18!!!!
    I'm 9 splits into Shang with no gold/ink at all yet.
    I've actually given up on splits and honestly my drive to play the game has been going down a lot the past few seasons, but that's also due to my discovery of Yu-Gi-Oh Rush 😅

  • @luegi25
    @luegi25 2 місяці тому +9

    Split my iron man so many times I was wondering why I wasn't getting any good splits. What a to grab more money for those who enjoy splits

  • @Aftokraftor
    @Aftokraftor 2 місяці тому +7

    I knew I wasnt crazy man
    I grinded like 3000 doc oc boosters during that last conquest and it took 23 rerolls before I saw a gold split and in the past it always took me around 8-12 before to see them
    Of course this anecdotal but I at least feel better having taken so long to finally see my gold Doc Oc

  • @TokyoUketarist
    @TokyoUketarist 2 місяці тому +9

    I totally noticed this! The average has definitely increased ever since new prism came out.

  • @jeffsenecal4168
    @jeffsenecal4168 2 місяці тому +11

    Yep I noticed this as WELL. WTF SD
    Usually could get an ink or gold by 4 maybee 6 max now not even by 10...BS

  • @fallguybuddy2654
    @fallguybuddy2654 2 місяці тому +11

    Of course Zombies here telling us what needs to be heard. Thanks as always. I really hope the community spreads this news, but of course they probably wont which undermines issues like this. No wonder my kate bishop inked split took forever it all makes sense now.

  • @CWolf-hx4yi
    @CWolf-hx4yi 2 місяці тому +7

    Thanks for the info! SD is going the way of so many companies. Get a little success then they start abusing it.

  • @familycollected3774
    @familycollected3774 2 місяці тому +7

    Dang as a player since surfer season pass I thought I noticed a dip in my gold and inked. So I wasn’t crazy

  • @INMATEofARKHAM
    @INMATEofARKHAM 2 місяці тому +5

    This doesn't surprise me as my own experiences match this data. It's pretty shitty of SD to do this without saying anything, but with the addition of the custom card, we're still better off than we were before...
    Don't get me wrong, it's obnoxious as fuck and I've had to spilt way too many times to try and get inked cards.

  • @Ucey365
    @Ucey365 2 місяці тому +5

    Second Dinner tries to do a lot of shady stuff and it’s getting old. How many times do we need to catch them with their hands in the cookie jar?
    Just stop with the nonsense man. Don’t screw over your loyal customers. We’re here supporting the game, do right by us.

  • @coolshirtkid
    @coolshirtkid 2 місяці тому +2

    wow this data makes me feel so validated 😂 i noticed a huge drop in my split luck the past month or so, and hearing the higher chance of ink on 4 definitely lines up with my experience too. this really sucks though it’s one of the only things that’s fun to really pursue when you are collection complete. bummer for no reason other than making people impulsively spend more

  • @Sam-ss2lg
    @Sam-ss2lg 2 місяці тому +10

    I ended up with a lot of boosters for Titania as she was featured in conquest the season before last. I went from a green border all the way up to 7 fully maxed variations of her. No gold, no ink, no crackle. That is the most splits I've ever went for a card without getting either.

  • @dunlosi1438
    @dunlosi1438 2 місяці тому +5

    I agree they should say what the odds are, I believe in some countries and/or states? (idk) they now have to show the odds on loot boxes in games by law, this should be similar imo

  • @WebMetlReese
    @WebMetlReese 2 місяці тому +14

    OMG This totally makes sense to me as I can remember over the summer getting three ink'd cards (Onslaught, Iceman, Shang Chi and even Nebula - who I split more than 8 times) on split #4 and thinking 'wow, this is great! I'm finally ascending past the foil and flare era! HOORAY!)
    Then, when they updated the Prism background and the cosmic borders, I've been focused on trying to split cards that give tokens like Kate Bishop, Thanos, and Squirrel Girl to maximize my border value.
    I've split said cards 5 times now, which took me quite a bit of 100$ bundles in order to simply buy the infinite due to lack of boosters and EVERY time I've gotten either a foil and glimmer, or another Fin prism background which I now literally hate because it just obliterates the backgrounds.
    I don't care about krackle or God, but I simply wanted to attempt gold or ink simply due to the cosmic borders really poppin off on them, and I have never had the resources or boosters to split any card other than Iron Man to get a krackle.
    Even Pokemon Pocket has the percentages of your draw.
    I have always gone with the notion that that chart we've used since forever ago was SD's. Isn't it against the law to not give us the chances?
    I hope this is on their discord, but honestly literally this week I posted a question to the team regarding the % of variant pulls regarding White Tiger as the bundle this week was my first actual chance to finally get a variant for a series 0 card.
    Their answer? MOVED MY POST TO "Venting"

    • @bennett4789
      @bennett4789 2 місяці тому +1

      ...several $100 bundles???

    • @WebMetlReese
      @WebMetlReese 2 місяці тому

      @@bennett4789 Last season's Silk bundle and this season Killmonger/Morbius. I'm by no means a whale, but I've definitely sunk way more money that I should have over the course of playing.
      Regardless of how anyone does their splitting, SD should at least have in game the % of split chance, as well as all the other caches/variant % as well.
      I used to depend on the tables just like everyone else, not until seeing player data had I thought to question it.

    • @bennett4789
      @bennett4789 2 місяці тому

      @@WebMetlReese "i'm by no means a whale"😭

    • @WebMetlReese
      @WebMetlReese 2 місяці тому

      ​@@bennett4789 I mean, I wish I could simply get variants in the shop or have enough keys to roll for a new card, but sometimes I find myself only with a key and 4500 tokens and a card like Arishem comes along...
      Not a whale, a dolphin for sure. But I love this game, love being able to keep up with the card collection, and haven't purchased any other game in almost two years. For me, SNAP provides a game that keep changing, considering newer titles cost 70$ or more and I stay well away from live service types, I instead choose to put that into SNAP.
      Good idea? Personal choice, being mislead by split and card acquisition % or refunding a bundle due to the resources being different on the webshop than in game but clearly stating in any FAQ that they are exactly the same, and then putting me into a -9000 gold debt that I had to grind out due to their mistake?
      Good game to play? Sure. Good idea to trust a company whose purpose is to make money? My bad, but hot damn I love Snap.

  • @robhousehold
    @robhousehold 2 місяці тому +4

    Prism is becoming my least favorite. It only works well for select cards imo. I've noticed it takes longer for good splits.

  • @Lordofcornn
    @Lordofcornn 2 місяці тому +2

    They really hate the players

  • @LaurenWhatever
    @LaurenWhatever 2 місяці тому +1

    Good coverage! 😊 I appreciate spreading the message wider. I really hope published rates is one change that comes out of this. 🤞

  • @Riceburner427-x8q
    @Riceburner427-x8q 2 місяці тому +2

    I figured after prism change I have 7-9 prisms in a row that I never did

  • @seejeh4060
    @seejeh4060 2 місяці тому +3

    Nico, onslaught, and Sera were all over 1k boosters for me, split all of them to 0 and neither had been gold, sera 1 ink, Nico 0 inks Onslaught 0 inks

  • @richieagame503
    @richieagame503 2 місяці тому +3

    My split lick has been so bad. Sera and storm. I'm at around 20 splits and not a single good on either. A few other are close to that. Just horrible split luck

  • @WangShiyi
    @WangShiyi 2 місяці тому +1

    I realized this too! After that patch i gained around 3000 collection levels but my splits were shit..

  • @aftabhumayoun5174
    @aftabhumayoun5174 2 місяці тому +3

    That is why I splitted cards with thousand boosters and still not got a gold split

  • @duanjuandelanooch9721
    @duanjuandelanooch9721 2 місяці тому +1

    I’ve got like 20+ splits on sister Grimm and still no ink or gold or a crackle.
    Got my first stardust like a week ago.
    Everything else is all glimmer, tone and foil,prism.

  • @robhousehold
    @robhousehold 2 місяці тому +2

    Yeah I've been getting annoyed with snap. Was a pass only player since right after the Daredevil pass. Haven't bought a couple of the last passes.

  • @HellShoot
    @HellShoot 2 місяці тому

    Here I was wondering why I couldn't get a gold or inked split on my Mockingbird. 9 total splits, 0 gold/inked/krakle

  • @morebakeder
    @morebakeder 2 місяці тому

    has any body done the math on how many boosters / credits are needed to get every single split option possible for a card, and what happens if you try splitting a card after you have every possible split for it?

  • @garrettdimaano6253
    @garrettdimaano6253 2 місяці тому +1

    got my first god split on split 6 and now im on zola with 36 splits not even a gold yet

  • @BetarayBillLover
    @BetarayBillLover 2 місяці тому +2

    I don’t even get it why do this? It just makes the system feel shittier, explains why it’s taking me so many splits too get inked or gold alioth

  • @entropystings
    @entropystings 2 місяці тому

    I get gold near 5 or 15. There doesn't seem to be much of an inbetween. Looking back on recent golds, I got White Widow on 5 and Ravonna is at 13 and still inked. Soon, Renslayer. Jane was 5, Sage was 7, Jeff was 15, Mr Negative was 14.

  • @ALo7ac
    @ALo7ac 2 місяці тому +1

    This is totally unacceptable. I have bought so many credits just to use the "free boosters" feature trying to split a lot of cards and I thought my previous luck was just gone...

  • @thefaceless8796
    @thefaceless8796 2 місяці тому +2

    I only care about inked. Really uninterested in gold and I'm cery disappointed to hear this. I think my surfer has been split over 10 times and still no inked smh. Glad to hear they've lowered my chances. I habe maybe 3 crackles smh. 1 god split. Ugh.

  • @Gabhom9
    @Gabhom9 2 місяці тому +1

    Wowwwvi hope second dinner do something ASAP! I play this for the variant and splits

  • @dzrascal7293
    @dzrascal7293 2 місяці тому +1

    I did think it was 10%. Although if they changed the rates, they should probably have announced that to the players.

    • @ZombiesGoNomNom
      @ZombiesGoNomNom  2 місяці тому +4

      10% for inked was the answer given back in beta and as far as im aware we have never gotten a public answer on gold %, people just assumed it was 10% too. This really should just be publicly disclosed somewhere, kinda crazy to me it is not. The rates are still above 10% which is good, but lowering them from what they have always been without saying anything is sketchy if it was done intentionally and is not just the result of a bug

    • @WebMetlReese
      @WebMetlReese 2 місяці тому

      @@ZombiesGoNomNom Logically if you already have gotten an ink split, wouldn't the chance for gold increase? I know that before the effects were like that, but that was before custom cards. If you split on and got a flare, your chances of getting another flair were a bit lower on your next split.
      WHo knows now. All I know is that my PC UI literally freezes up to load all the glimmers and stardusts on some of my cards.

  • @TheArctus
    @TheArctus 2 місяці тому

    My gold hit rate has been through the roof in the last few weeks. I thought they secretly buffed gold rate...

  • @kammeronbrown
    @kammeronbrown Місяць тому

    Even after the adjustment... zero crackles and I'm is elusive for cards already gold. Shit is ridiculous. 🙄😮‍💨

  • @banded_eon711
    @banded_eon711 2 місяці тому +1

    Anyways, yall try Pokémon Pocket?

    • @WebMetlReese
      @WebMetlReese 2 місяці тому

      Great looking game, but aligns to Poke rules. There won't be much of a meta or cards that do unique things that the TCG game and every other game doesn't already have.
      The meta will be static I feel, and also...freaking creators have whaled to unlock all cards and are building decks....it's not even out yet, which begs the question what to look forward to as every video literally spoils the launch cards.

  • @unknowboy7189
    @unknowboy7189 2 місяці тому +1

    I have 10 splits on Nico Minoru and dont get gold and ink now i understand why i was suspicious they nerfed the odds and im right.

  • @TCGMetalZ
    @TCGMetalZ 2 місяці тому +1

    SD is trying to starve players from all "free rewards" to push them into having to use premium currency to chase that endorphin rush.
    Cache rewards nerfed
    Series release diversity -nerfed
    Alliance rewards - nerfed
    Free daily credits - nerfed
    Borders - nerfed
    Conquest shop - nerfed
    Splitting - nerfed
    Caches replaced with spotlight keys that can be purchased and incentives bundles.
    90% of cards released in the last year are Series 5. Initially was supposed to include at least 1 Series 4 each month. Again pushes players to buy spotlight bundles at $99
    Alliances are basically a joke. A program created because it was hyped and promised and left to be forgotten like Conquest.
    Borders replaced by premium Borders. They gave them out like candy Initially to make people feel like they are objectively better than free ones.
    It's only a matter of time before you can but a nicer looking filter over your card that makes inked and gold look worse By comparison

  • @vaga.spiritus
    @vaga.spiritus 2 місяці тому

    Wow those original chances seem way higher than what I experienced 😂

  • @xDuds
    @xDuds 2 місяці тому +2

    I can not remember the last time I got a single Ink or Gold. I play everyday, did waste a reasonable armount of money and totally regret. The game is pure shit, I dont have a single friend playing this shitty game, all left. So sad.

  • @Riceburner427-x8q
    @Riceburner427-x8q 2 місяці тому +2

    Almost always got ink on 4th

    • @WebMetlReese
      @WebMetlReese 2 місяці тому

      Those were the days! Last year at this time I remember getting my first gold which was IRon man, and then soon after my first ink which was MODOK pixel.
      From Jan up until the prism thing, I was seriously getting some ink on split 4 or 5 and had obtained around 6 ink and one gold on my most played cards (boosters). After the update, all I get is foil, prism, foil, foil, prism. This is with the same ink cards that have already been split at least 5 times, not an ink to gold, or a gold to ink or a single krackle of any kind. All prism/foil

  • @xiKeepItRealx
    @xiKeepItRealx 2 місяці тому

    You have any idea how many splits i have done since then and wondering why i havent gotten ink or why i have gotten more gold and barely any ink this is fucked up. Makes me not want to split until they fix this 😢🤬🤬

  • @reccaman
    @reccaman 2 місяці тому +1

    Tears for the whales in the ocean of salt water.

  • @coolshirtkid
    @coolshirtkid 2 місяці тому

    i’m sitting at 15 shang splits with no crackle and 13 rock slide splits with no ink or gold 💔

  • @PuertoRocPrime
    @PuertoRocPrime 2 місяці тому

    Second dinner for whatever reason refuses to appropriately communicate with its customers. Every single change or addition to the game feels done with monetization in mind over player experience. It’s incredibly frustrating. I can’t wait to play Pokémon pocket because from what I’ve seen that’s a collectible card game that seems to actually want you to get all the cards. What a novel concept.

  • @08-15-dude
    @08-15-dude 2 місяці тому +2

    Smells like SD milking. Unfortunately they are greedy a*****es, but the game is fun. Shitty combination.
    But yeah, have way less ink and gold splits. Some of my cards have already 11-13 splits and no gold or ink. 🎉 Stopped counting getting prism or other stuff...

  • @dimitrinzerem3509
    @dimitrinzerem3509 2 місяці тому

    I guess I’m lucky I’m so far 3-4 on my 4th splits for inked.

  • @MetalRatex
    @MetalRatex 2 місяці тому +1

    Do you know why some people don't face bots above 90 and others do? I tried to ask on the Marvel Snap's Discord and my post got deleted.

    • @ZombiesGoNomNom
      @ZombiesGoNomNom  2 місяці тому +2

      the simple answer is bots mainly appear when the game is unable to find people of equivalent skill (MMR) to match you with. So why you might not be seeing bots in the 90s is because the game has enough people at the same internal skill rating to pair you with. This is why you often see higher ranked players get more bots on their climb, because the pool of players the game thinks it can fairly match them with is smaller

    • @lhellhammer
      @lhellhammer 2 місяці тому +1

      So match em against bots to speed their climb to infinite. Just do away with it entirely at this point .

    • @MetalRatex
      @MetalRatex 2 місяці тому

      @@ZombiesGoNomNom Thanks.

  • @6ftmouse349
    @6ftmouse349 2 місяці тому

    This is a good thing. Splits are only cool cause they’re rare. If everyone has them they’re pointless

  • @Oenolicious
    @Oenolicious 2 місяці тому

    Scummy is sort of par for the course with this company. Pretty sure when they drop their IP that does not have Marvel attached it is going down in flames.

  • @aHazyWorld
    @aHazyWorld 2 місяці тому

    Feels bad that I’m collection level 8000 and have 2 crackles 😅

  • @TheIrishGamerGuy
    @TheIrishGamerGuy 2 місяці тому

    Guess I'll just not bother with the game so 🤷‍♂️
    This is the 1st season I didn't get the battlepass (I started playing in Blink season) but I'm not maining this game anymore if this crap gets pulled without any disclosure or communication to the playerbase. Its beyond unethical imo.
    Pre-prism patch, I managed to only get Black Knight, Blade and Shang Chi inked.

  • @jaqdax2401
    @jaqdax2401 2 місяці тому

    SD does everything to "keep people playing" except improving their game

  • @zombislayerx8361
    @zombislayerx8361 2 місяці тому

    Damn. I though gamble in games for kids were ilegal. Is shitty and scummy AF devs dont said anything about it

  • @thek838
    @thek838 2 місяці тому +5

    This is good thing to me as custom cards made splits pretty irrelevant after just 4-6 splits if all one cared about was getting gold or ink for their custom card so making it harder puts more grind to it. Honestly wish they removed custom card tho than make odds worse. I have so many cards I just never need to split nor new variants

    • @batmanwins5701
      @batmanwins5701 2 місяці тому +3

      👎🏽

    • @WebMetlReese
      @WebMetlReese 2 місяці тому

      No, I truly believe before custom cards it was so maddening having to split each variant, especially with new variants coming in everyday, the custom card makes sense.
      If they stated that with the custom card option, chances of getting a rarer split would be reduced, I would of also agreed with.
      All they had to do was be upfront, I bet this conversation wouldn't be happening.

  • @cazzyjunk7585
    @cazzyjunk7585 2 місяці тому

    Really! 🤬 I definitely noticed but I thought just bad luck. 👎

  • @hottrockinrocker3519
    @hottrockinrocker3519 2 місяці тому

    We should ban together and boycott 1 month, don’t pay any money; gold, season pass, etc. The players who spend money are in charge, not SD. Spending $ 0 is $ 0 revenue for SD, no money, no game. Just 1 month to send a message.

  • @cloudd6535
    @cloudd6535 2 місяці тому

    This video is just stupid, yeah maybe these splits percentages have been lowered, but you forgot to mention one simple fact, that now you only need to get a perfect split(for you) only for one variant of a card, and previously you had to split every variant of a specific card that you like.

    • @WebMetlReese
      @WebMetlReese 2 місяці тому

      The custom card system is definitely an improvement, this actually energized me to focus solely on one card to split until I would hit a gold or ink BG. The issue is though, the change in the way we initially perceived our chances are invalid now.
      As you stated previously each variant had to be split, but it was common knowledge that after the 4th and 5th split you had a fairly good chance for it to be ink or gold, after the 6th you had the chance to get a krackle. (Or something like that)
      Many players could hit at least an ink or gold by the 7th split for the most part before the BG overhaul, now...some players have split over 10 times and still have not gotten a different back other than prism or a foil.
      Naturally it's odd and sucks because (for me) I was thinking I was just having bad luck, if they did indeed lower the chances, I honestly would only split cards that have enough boosters and stop wasting resources to make my arrows or stones ink with black cosmic borders.
      PS: That's the real reason I started mass splitting, getting a border for one card my first cards to give them to would be the ones that give tokens. Arishem makes all cards his border, etc.

  • @davismoore4893
    @davismoore4893 2 місяці тому

    Algorithm boost

  • @slayer4mayor
    @slayer4mayor 2 місяці тому

    This is lame. I hope SD explains this.

  • @Incident00
    @Incident00 2 місяці тому

    This game is pure cash grab nothing more. Few days away and I will switch to Pokemon Pocket. Finally SD will face real competition, will adopt or fall in numbers significantly.

  • @Mike-bh9vs
    @Mike-bh9vs 2 місяці тому

    SD sucks