Time to address this, I didn't knew this until I grew up, and watched Lucha Libre more than WWE, as a fun fact, Luchadores consider their mask something sacred, they even cry when they lose it to another luchador, Luchadores are more into tradition, in fact, for some countries such as American Professional Wrestling, a Mask of a luchador isn't that important, but for Mexican Professional Wrestling, a mask is a very sacred thing, some American promotions such as WWE might think a mask it's just another piece of ring gear, but for a Luchador, a mask means something more way beyond the understanding of many pro wrestling fans, by the way, first time watching your videos and I loved them, keep up the great work 😁
A great informative video. Covered whole culture of lucha masks so deeply. This video pounded so much value and philosophy of mask, now I am feeling even more respectful towards the heritage but 12:05 I almost had a heart attack,
Es la primera vez que veo tus videos, Mike, me encantaron. Solo para añadir un poco al tema: ha llegado a haber luchadores que pierden la máscara en etapas tempranas de su carrera y se vuelven a enmascarar, encarnando a otro personaje (por ejemplo, L.A. Park hizo eso y le resultó tan bien, que hoy en día su máscara es una de las más valiosas en las luchas de apuestas) lo que no está permitido es hacer lo que hizo rey mysterio, pero como perdió su máscara en 🇺🇸, creo que hay un vacío legal que le permite luchar enmascarado en México, lo que no podría es apostar su máscara (además que su máscara prácticamente “no vale nada” pues ya todos conocemos su rostro). Hay otra modalidad en las luchas de apuesta que es el “máscara contra cabellera”. Si me preguntas a mi, no estoy de acuerdo con esa modalidad porque un luchador puede apostar su cabellera tantas veces como quiera, hasta que “pierda valor” y ya no sea atractivo para otros luchadores raparlo (por más que nada le impida seguir apostando su cabellera). Yo pensaría justo que si un luchador pierde la cabellera contra un luchador enmascarado, ya no la podría volver a apostar jamás. Ese tipo de luchas son más comunes de lo que uno podría creer y normalmente se ven las distintas modalidades de luchas de apuestas en los magnos eventos de las dos empresas grandes, o si una rivalidad escala lo suficiente en el circuito independiente. No hace mucho, la lucha de apuestas que más llamó la atención en México se dio en el circuito independiente (Wotan vs Trauma I), obviamente el Consejo Mundial y AAA se roban los reflectores, pero la afición también le da mucha importancia a lo que ocurre en el circuito independiente.
I know a dude who has some confidence problems and self esteem issues but is into wrestling and wears a mask cause he says it helps with his esteem and confidence, says it's like he isn't him in the ring then and doesnt have to think about it or people recognising him but he is his character instead like stepping into his personas shoes and becoming another person. looks kinda like a rey mysterio style mask so people can see the eyes nose and mouth so expressions still show when selling and he can breathe etc
Could you make a mask as important as a championship belt regardless of the wrestler wearing it as it gives them legitimacy in the eyes of the crowd over the course of its history? Let's call this mask/persona "El Ultimo Machismo". Machismo is known to be a mask worn by a man that almost never loses. But then this one time at a mask vs mask match something goes wrong, he slips up or something and loses the match. Machismo is then unmasked by his opponent "wrestler X". But as Machismo is unmasked he becomes a completely different person, even his move-set completely changes. He goes from a heroic high flier to a sadistic technical wizard, focusing solely on submitting his opponents in the most brutal ways possible, showing his loss of "humanity" in a sense. Let's call him "Anaconda" Then one day the Machismo mask makes a return under another wrestler. Let's call him "El Ultimo Machismo II". Strangely enough Machismo II's mannerisms is identical to Machismo even though the mask has found another vessel. The unknown wrestler under the mask soon finds himself racking up wins as a heroic high flyer winning match after match as though he is in a league of his own. And then as Machismo II faces his former vessel, "Anaconda", his opponent has no memories of ever wearing that mask, though visibly shaken before the mask that once brought him to his glory days. Over the course of time it becomes obvious that the mask has a will of its own, a soul at it will regardless of whatever wrestler wears it. Machismo II soon takes his spot on top of the foodchain, racking win after win after win and reigning as champion for a period between 2 to 3 years. But in that time, no-one, not even the people backstage ever see the face under Machismo II as his kayfabe remains unbroken and protected by the promotion to the same degree as the most prestige finishers and belts. The Machismo mask's only weaknesses are the former scars and injuries of his vessel, still leaving room for it to be beaten with the right strategy, exploiting the vessel underneath. Once the time has come for Machismo II to publicly lose both the mask and championship he's been entrusted over the years, he loses, giving the next "successor" the opportunity to take up the mantle. Over the course of its history the Machismo mask racks up the credibility to put over everyone capable of maintaining its persona/moveset etc as though possessed by the mask itself. This could, therefore, serve as an undying "undertaker" type figure or the final boss in the face of set promotion. This is a cycle that can endlessly continue, testing every generation afterwards against the so called GOAT. Of course, to keep it from becoming stale, "El Ultimo Machismo" is a special, Brock Lesnar/Undertaker/MJF/Goldberd/The Rock type act, adapting and developing alongside professional wrestling to keep it from becoming stale. The wrestlers one playing "El Machismo Ultimo" could afterwards (after their unmasking) be recognized and celebrated as the honored vessel of "El Machismo Ultimo", growing ever more ruthless in retaliation etc as the best part of their "wrestling soul/skills" are implemented into the persona, creating the ultimate wrestler over generations to come. Beating Machismo and claiming it for themselves to add to the legacy could therefore be seen as just as big of a, or even more of a prize than the championships. Anyone being put over by Machismo in a non mask vs mask match is a made man and recognized as a main eventer as not many have the privilege of doing so. It, therefore, also serves as some sort of gatekeeper towards those wishing to reach super stardom.
Time to address this, I didn't knew this until I grew up, and watched Lucha Libre more than WWE, as a fun fact, Luchadores consider their mask something sacred, they even cry when they lose it to another luchador, Luchadores are more into tradition, in fact, for some countries such as American Professional Wrestling, a Mask of a luchador isn't that important, but for Mexican Professional Wrestling, a mask is a very sacred thing, some American promotions such as WWE might think a mask it's just another piece of ring gear, but for a Luchador, a mask means something more way beyond the understanding of many pro wrestling fans, by the way, first time watching your videos and I loved them, keep up the great work 😁
this guy did everything in wrestling... have a sub, sir
A great informative video. Covered whole culture of lucha masks so deeply. This video pounded so much value and philosophy of mask, now I am feeling even more respectful towards the heritage
but 12:05
I almost had a heart attack,
When I was editing that, and the glitch happened...I just about had one too!
@@TilWeMakeIt hahaha 😹
11:18 i really wish the quote ended at "the secret of our true identitites will be revealed"
Incredible video and history lesson! Thank you!
You bet - this was a fun one to make!
Awesome video!!!!’
Thank you Alex!
Es la primera vez que veo tus videos, Mike, me encantaron.
Solo para añadir un poco al tema: ha llegado a haber luchadores que pierden la máscara en etapas tempranas de su carrera y se vuelven a enmascarar, encarnando a otro personaje (por ejemplo, L.A. Park hizo eso y le resultó tan bien, que hoy en día su máscara es una de las más valiosas en las luchas de apuestas) lo que no está permitido es hacer lo que hizo rey mysterio, pero como perdió su máscara en 🇺🇸, creo que hay un vacío legal que le permite luchar enmascarado en México, lo que no podría es apostar su máscara (además que su máscara prácticamente “no vale nada” pues ya todos conocemos su rostro).
Hay otra modalidad en las luchas de apuesta que es el “máscara contra cabellera”. Si me preguntas a mi, no estoy de acuerdo con esa modalidad porque un luchador puede apostar su cabellera tantas veces como quiera, hasta que “pierda valor” y ya no sea atractivo para otros luchadores raparlo (por más que nada le impida seguir apostando su cabellera). Yo pensaría justo que si un luchador pierde la cabellera contra un luchador enmascarado, ya no la podría volver a apostar jamás. Ese tipo de luchas son más comunes de lo que uno podría creer y normalmente se ven las distintas modalidades de luchas de apuestas en los magnos eventos de las dos empresas grandes, o si una rivalidad escala lo suficiente en el circuito independiente. No hace mucho, la lucha de apuestas que más llamó la atención en México se dio en el circuito independiente (Wotan vs Trauma I), obviamente el Consejo Mundial y AAA se roban los reflectores, pero la afición también le da mucha importancia a lo que ocurre en el circuito independiente.
I know a dude who has some confidence problems and self esteem issues but is into wrestling and wears a mask cause he says it helps with his esteem and confidence, says it's like he isn't him in the ring then and doesnt have to think about it or people recognising him but he is his character instead like stepping into his personas shoes and becoming another person.
looks kinda like a rey mysterio style mask so people can see the eyes nose and mouth so expressions still show when selling and he can breathe etc
There is real power in the anonymity a mask grants!
Finally LUCHA LUCHA LUCHA
Si Si Si!
do you still work as a agent?
I do, yes - I was just working backstage to agent matches a few weeks ago!
@@TilWeMakeIt thats amazing once i get my school done i might contact you and see if we can work something out
The video was glitched because of the magical power of the mask
Apparently so!
I might wear a mask in pro wrestling
Will you be debuting soon, Riley?
@@TilWeMakeIt hopefully around September or October
@@rileykazama3145 have you debuted yet?
Is wearing a mask like the ones in the video, strictly a lucha libre thing?
No, not at all
Can anyone wear a lucha libre mask? Or only Mexicans?
@@neverangel24officialytchan87 thank you
Could you make a mask as important as a championship belt regardless of the wrestler wearing it as it gives them legitimacy in the eyes of the crowd over the course of its history?
Let's call this mask/persona "El Ultimo Machismo". Machismo is known to be a mask worn by a man that almost never loses. But then this one time at a mask vs mask match something goes wrong, he slips up or something and loses the match. Machismo is then unmasked by his opponent "wrestler X". But as Machismo is unmasked he becomes a completely different person, even his move-set completely changes. He goes from a heroic high flier to a sadistic technical wizard, focusing solely on submitting his opponents in the most brutal ways possible, showing his loss of "humanity" in a sense. Let's call him "Anaconda"
Then one day the Machismo mask makes a return under another wrestler. Let's call him "El Ultimo Machismo II". Strangely enough Machismo II's mannerisms is identical to Machismo even though the mask has found another vessel. The unknown wrestler under the mask soon finds himself racking up wins as a heroic high flyer winning match after match as though he is in a league of his own. And then as Machismo II faces his former vessel, "Anaconda", his opponent has no memories of ever wearing that mask, though visibly shaken before the mask that once brought him to his glory days. Over the course of time it becomes obvious that the mask has a will of its own, a soul at it will regardless of whatever wrestler wears it. Machismo II soon takes his spot on top of the foodchain, racking win after win after win and reigning as champion for a period between 2 to 3 years. But in that time, no-one, not even the people backstage ever see the face under Machismo II as his kayfabe remains unbroken and protected by the promotion to the same degree as the most prestige finishers and belts. The Machismo mask's only weaknesses are the former scars and injuries of his vessel, still leaving room for it to be beaten with the right strategy, exploiting the vessel underneath.
Once the time has come for Machismo II to publicly lose both the mask and championship he's been entrusted over the years, he loses, giving the next "successor" the opportunity to take up the mantle. Over the course of its history the Machismo mask racks up the credibility to put over everyone capable of maintaining its persona/moveset etc as though possessed by the mask itself. This could, therefore, serve as an undying "undertaker" type figure or the final boss in the face of set promotion. This is a cycle that can endlessly continue, testing every generation afterwards against the so called GOAT. Of course, to keep it from becoming stale, "El Ultimo Machismo" is a special, Brock Lesnar/Undertaker/MJF/Goldberd/The Rock type act, adapting and developing alongside professional wrestling to keep it from becoming stale.
The wrestlers one playing "El Machismo Ultimo" could afterwards (after their unmasking) be recognized and celebrated as the honored vessel of "El Machismo Ultimo", growing ever more ruthless in retaliation etc as the best part of their "wrestling soul/skills" are implemented into the persona, creating the ultimate wrestler over generations to come.
Beating Machismo and claiming it for themselves to add to the legacy could therefore be seen as just as big of a, or even more of a prize than the championships.
Anyone being put over by Machismo in a non mask vs mask match is a made man and recognized as a main eventer as not many have the privilege of doing so. It, therefore, also serves as some sort of gatekeeper towards those wishing to reach super stardom.