In this system 2C would be natural showing four clubs and another four card suit. If you want to play a wriggle and still play Stayman you can play exit transfers: ua-cam.com/video/OfLqY0iXxVQ/v-deo.html which is simpler (but not as good a system in my opinion) - personally I now prefer modified Halmic.
Agree if you are vulnerable, but are you not in danger of being worse of by encouraging opponents into game rather than going one or two down doubled non vulnerable?
That sometimes happens and I know that some people do just wing it here esp if they open a strong NT. Often though, especially against a weak NT, the Ops can make big bucks bringing you down in NTs. Whereas it often won't give them as much doubling a suit contract. For that reason if you escape they'll probably just end up in their contract. Which is what you'll often prefer.
The upside of a weak 1nt is that it's basically preemptive. If you open 1nt it's often hard for the opponents to get their hand across which can work brilliantly!
@@bridgetrampton1537 I get the preemptive thing. I just feel that its advantage is way overcome by playing in the correct part score. There's a local very strong pair that plays it. My team has beaten them several times because our system is mildly preemptive, but allows accurate investigation of a part score. Twice when they sat at the other table, we opened 1 Heart on a four-card suit and played once in 2 Spades on a 4-4- fit, and once at 2 Hearts after a three-card raise, while they played 1NT, two down. They grimaced and sneered at us after both matches. Twice when they were our direct opponents, we picked off their suit by opening a weak 4-card major. At match points, you need a 57% base game to place high, plus several mistakes by the opposition. Playing the weak NT or other preemptive styles such as Bergen, your base score will usually be less than 50% because you get so many bad boards. It's true that they make more mistakes, but not enough to compensate for a low base score.
Just what I wanted to know -- thank you v. much, Bridget.
Very useful, thanks so much for the video, hopefully I won’t be traumatised next time someone doubles my 1 NT !😂
Poor you! Hope you managed to get a good nights sleep after that!
In the second example with two four card majors, why not use Stayman & pass (even if partner responds with diamonds?)?
In this system 2C would be natural showing four clubs and another four card suit. If you want to play a wriggle and still play Stayman you can play exit transfers: ua-cam.com/video/OfLqY0iXxVQ/v-deo.html which is simpler (but not as good a system in my opinion) - personally I now prefer modified Halmic.
See John's chat below. 2c is no longer stayman. B
Agree if you are vulnerable, but are you not in danger of being worse of by encouraging opponents into game rather than going one or two down doubled non vulnerable?
That sometimes happens and I know that some people do just wing it here esp if they open a strong NT. Often though, especially against a weak NT, the Ops can make big bucks bringing you down in NTs. Whereas it often won't give them as much doubling a suit contract. For that reason if you escape they'll probably just end up in their contract. Which is what you'll often prefer.
I stopped playing the weak NT after watching partner go two down in 1NT vul and undoubled.
The upside of a weak 1nt is that it's basically preemptive. If you open 1nt it's often hard for the opponents to get their hand across which can work brilliantly!
@@bridgetrampton1537 I get the preemptive thing. I just feel that its advantage is way overcome by playing in the correct part score. There's a local very strong pair that plays it. My team has beaten them several times because our system is mildly preemptive, but allows accurate investigation of a part score. Twice when they sat at the other table, we opened 1 Heart on a four-card suit and played once in 2 Spades on a 4-4- fit, and once at 2 Hearts after a three-card raise, while they played 1NT, two down. They grimaced and sneered at us after both matches. Twice when they were our direct opponents, we picked off their suit by opening a weak 4-card major. At match points, you need a 57% base game to place high, plus several mistakes by the opposition. Playing the weak NT or other preemptive styles such as Bergen, your base score will usually be less than 50% because you get so many bad boards. It's true that they make more mistakes, but not enough to compensate for a low base score.