Dave you made the right call. I had a stripped truss rod nut on my Am Std Strat. I was able to get a tappered allen key to bite by hammering it in, but instead of just adjusting the neck I pushed my luck and went for a truss rod nut replacement. With some heat, the walnut plug popped out, but the truss nut did not clear the fingerboard on the way out and I GOOCHED it bad. Will need to be glued back together and refinished one day. Poor thing has been parked for a year.
I love tele's I did build my own and it was really fun, I made my own take on a thinline out of oak (thought I could lighten it up considerably with all the sound holes but it still turned out to be pretty heavy) also hid a humbucker under the wooden scratch plate so it looks like an esquire, I love teles and one day hope to own an American Vintage 52 or something of the like
The same magic you used a while back. A little steel wool to fir out the hole in the truss rod nut.Then your hex key wil grab ahold and out she goes....remember???...It really helps if you have a new one on hand to replace the funkified one you took out. Cheers
Cool beans. I like working with small engines too, but I don't know squat about them. Only way I know to learn a thing though is do it to it and learn by gooching things up a few times.
thanks for the reply parts hard to find in eire as well.. I have resorted to sawing a slot across a stripped nex so it can't be adjusted with a flathead driver...
Wow. I felt disappointed when Dave first gave the bad news about the neck as I don't recall any Dave vids where he isn't successful with the fix. Then, in Dave fashion, he pulled it off. Dave is King.
"She be cranked to da ceiling!" LOL I like your personality man.. I have a tele thinline but I can't get the action quite right.. it's driving me crazy!
One, the glue can be loosened with steam. However, I don't know if this is the skunk stripe variety or the more usual under the fretboard type. Depending on the guitar and it's age, saving the neck may or may not be worth it. A new neck certainly won't be as good as an older one, even if you have to rework the skunk stripe. The wood simply isn't as good these days. Now if this is not a particularly old one, why not try to fix it first, then if it doesn't work, buy another neck. see next frame
Hey Dave, when you asked "what is it about the colors on this thing that makes me want to smoke a big fat one?" You made me laugh so hard, it made soda come out my nose. hahaha, Anyway Merry Christmas. Cheers!
If you go the American standard route be warned that as of 2012 they don't have the traditional Tele neck pickup. They are contoured and have a strat like neck pup. if that's what you want then okay but just be aware that in 2012 they added new "features" to the American standard. They also added a broadcaster bridge pickup so if your looking for traditional tele tones you're not going to get it from the American standard unless you buy an older model. Hopefully they change it back for 2013.
one can remove the walnut plug on the headstock to replace buggered nut-- I have done this on american standard fender necks.. enjoy your vids hi from spudville
If the body was handmade I wonder if they made the neck pocket correctly shame about the stripped truss rod adjustment head. I know it costs more to fix on a maple neck than on a rosewood neck. Might as well get a new neck like you said ,but at least you got it to adjust :D
You may be right. I still think it's a glued on fretboard, but it's really hard to tell when they're the same color and type of wood from a video alone. No matter, though. There is a way to fix anything, even severely warped necks. I've taken them from horseshoe shaped back to playable shape. Since it's an American Telecaster neck, one must think about saving it. I don't consider the time it takes, so whether or not it's cost effective in that way doesn't mean anything to me. It can take weeks.
Of course, I'm a guy that does the work for the enjoyment of it. Generally, I buy the guitar so a customer is not paying an hourly rate. Once it's repaired, I resell it and sometimes make a little money off them. Sometimes not. I'm doing it because I love fixing them, not to really make money. I do try to make it pay for itself, but that's not even possible sometimes.
Isn't the truss rod on these Fender's put in through the back on a maple neck? Isn't that what the skunk stripe is for? You'd have to try and get that skunk stripe out and I reckon you'd ruin the neck doing it. You'd have to route it out and then replace the wood. Labour VS buying a new neck? Me thinks new neck wins;-)
when you say it's stripped, you mean the adjustment nut don't you? Its been got at with the wrong sized tool, which wore out the hex socket? Hmm, I like that you kept at it - hope the dude appreciates. But perhaps the dude abides. Merry Christmas Dave!
PS Merry Christmas to you and Mrs Davey4557. Thansk for all the great vid's and tips etc. I vote you learn a couple of new riffs for 2013 and stop using the Bass player excuse (Satchel has one on YT somewhere with Death To All Butt Metal it's pretty easy). May all your truss rods have un-striped bolt heads and turn freely in the new year.
Maybe so, I'm not sure yet about the fretboard. I just can't tell. In my case, the cost wouldn't be all that much for whatever it takes to repair it, but if one was paying the labor ... yeah, it would be cost prohibitive. I too know wood like most don't. I've not only worked with wood, I've done everything from planting and harvesting the trees, to working in the lumber mills, even selling it a Lowes. Wood that isn't rotted out can be manipulated, if you have the time, knowledge and means to do
Truss rods can be replaced ... but it's a pain in the butt. Of course, you have to remove the fretboard ... that's just the start of your troubles, if you have the tools and time to do it. I know Davey has a steamer, so that isn't a problem. He probably has all the clamps and things to reattach the fretboard after the truss rod is replaced, so no problem ... just the luck of the draw, sometimes you get it to work ... sometimes you don't.
The Baja is almost the same set up as the 2012 American Standard, I think they should keep those features for the Baja tele but leave the American Standard alone for the simple fact that It's the longest production run of any solid body guitar in history. There's a reason for that.
I don't disagree that anything can be fixed. I do however think that this is a single piece of maple and has no glued on fretboard. Only Dave can prove us wrong. That said, the cost of repair is an issue. You could likely buy the highest grade Fender neck twice over before you paid for a repair like this. You'd never ever be able to tell the difference. I'm sorry, but I know wood and you just wouldn't. The tonal differences would be imperceptible.
For instance, I've been reworking a trashed fifties Stella on and off for months. Will it be worth the time in dollars? Hell no, never happen. Will it be worth it in the satisfaction of bringing something back to life that everyone else left for dead, yes. I can straighten warped wood, that's not a major problem for me. I invent processes and rigs to do what needs to be done. I don't believe in throwing things away if there's any way at all to save them. Send me your warped necks, I can save em
Dave - 4.8 viewers will have their Christmas shopping done. The rest of us are like - 'Fuck it, I'll do it on Monday afternoon"... I didn't know that Pagey got you to fix his axes for him... learn something every day. I take it he's going to pay you with a couple of big fat ones?
Well, I respectfully disagree. It's clear there is no glued on fretboard from this video. True, we didn't see the skunk stripe, but no glued on fretboard means it must be in the back or some other way. I can't see how steam would remove that strip of wood without warping the neck to shit. This of course is my un-professional opinion, since I don't fix guitars for a living, but I have done wood working for 20 years;-)
so. A new nut, that would be much at all. A new truss rod, well lets face it, no matter what, that's an expensive job if someone has to pay the labor, no matter how it's done. There is another problem, finding the proper neck, with all the right logos and all. If it's used, what happens to the rest of the guitar it was taken from? I see guys taking apart perfectly good guitars all the time because the parts are worth more than the complete guitar. I hate that. I want to make them whole again.
Dave you made the right call. I had a stripped truss rod nut on my Am Std Strat. I was able to get a tappered allen key to bite by hammering it in, but instead of just adjusting the neck I pushed my luck and went for a truss rod nut replacement. With some heat, the walnut plug popped out, but the truss nut did not clear the fingerboard on the way out and I GOOCHED it bad. Will need to be glued back together and refinished one day. Poor thing has been parked for a year.
Now there are 5.8. Somehow Dave, you always find a way to make it happen ~ a good reminder not to give up on a tough problem.
I love tele's I did build my own and it was really fun, I made my own take on a thinline out of oak (thought I could lighten it up considerably with all the sound holes but it still turned out to be pretty heavy) also hid a humbucker under the wooden scratch plate so it looks like an esquire, I love teles and one day hope to own an American Vintage 52 or something of the like
The same magic you used a while back. A little steel wool to fir out the hole in the truss rod nut.Then your hex key wil grab ahold and out she goes....remember???...It really helps if you have a new one on hand to replace the funkified one you took out.
Cheers
Hey Dave, They who shall not be named makes a set of gripper truss rod wrenches for stripped nuts and they work great.
Merry Christmas Davey. Love your vids man, keep them comeing pls.
another great and "short" video... keep up the good work Dave...
Cool beans. I like working with small engines too, but I don't know squat about them. Only way I know to learn a thing though is do it to it and learn by gooching things up a few times.
thanks for the reply parts hard to find in eire as well.. I have resorted to sawing a slot across a stripped nex so it can't be adjusted with a flathead driver...
Wow. I felt disappointed when Dave first gave the bad news about the neck as I don't recall any Dave vids where he isn't successful with the fix. Then, in Dave fashion, he pulled it off. Dave is King.
yep, i am part of the 4.8 too ! love your vids dave
"She be cranked to da ceiling!" LOL I like your personality man.. I have a tele thinline but I can't get the action quite right.. it's driving me crazy!
One, the glue can be loosened with steam. However, I don't know if this is the skunk stripe variety or the more usual under the fretboard type. Depending on the guitar and it's age, saving the neck may or may not be worth it. A new neck certainly won't be as good as an older one, even if you have to rework the skunk stripe. The wood simply isn't as good these days. Now if this is not a particularly old one, why not try to fix it first, then if it doesn't work, buy another neck. see next frame
Hey Dave, when you asked "what is it about the colors on this thing that makes me want to smoke a big fat one?" You made me laugh so hard, it made soda come out my nose. hahaha, Anyway Merry Christmas. Cheers!
If you go the American standard route be warned that as of 2012 they don't have the traditional Tele neck pickup. They are contoured and have a strat like neck pup. if that's what you want then okay but just be aware that in 2012 they added new "features" to the American standard. They also added a broadcaster bridge pickup so if your looking for traditional tele tones you're not going to get it from the American standard unless you buy an older model. Hopefully they change it back for 2013.
one can remove the walnut plug on the headstock to replace buggered nut-- I have done this on american standard fender necks.. enjoy your vids hi from spudville
If the body was handmade I wonder if they made the neck pocket correctly shame about the stripped truss rod adjustment head. I know it costs more to fix on a maple neck than on a rosewood neck. Might as well get a new neck like you said ,but at least you got it to adjust :D
jimmy page dragon tele paint job. love it!
You may be right. I still think it's a glued on fretboard, but it's really hard to tell when they're the same color and type of wood from a video alone. No matter, though. There is a way to fix anything, even severely warped necks. I've taken them from horseshoe shaped back to playable shape. Since it's an American Telecaster neck, one must think about saving it. I don't consider the time it takes, so whether or not it's cost effective in that way doesn't mean anything to me. It can take weeks.
Of course, I'm a guy that does the work for the enjoyment of it. Generally, I buy the guitar so a customer is not paying an hourly rate. Once it's repaired, I resell it and sometimes make a little money off them. Sometimes not. I'm doing it because I love fixing them, not to really make money. I do try to make it pay for itself, but that's not even possible sometimes.
This is where Dave would shout "Warmoth"!
Isn't the truss rod on these Fender's put in through the back on a maple neck? Isn't that what the skunk stripe is for? You'd have to try and get that skunk stripe out and I reckon you'd ruin the neck doing it. You'd have to route it out and then replace the wood. Labour VS buying a new neck? Me thinks new neck wins;-)
when you say it's stripped, you mean the adjustment nut don't you? Its been got at with the wrong sized tool, which wore out the hex socket? Hmm, I like that you kept at it - hope the dude appreciates. But perhaps the dude abides. Merry Christmas Dave!
PS Merry Christmas to you and Mrs Davey4557. Thansk for all the great vid's and tips etc. I vote you learn a couple of new riffs for 2013 and stop using the Bass player excuse (Satchel has one on YT somewhere with Death To All Butt Metal it's pretty easy). May all your truss rods have un-striped bolt heads and turn freely in the new year.
That Tele is gorgeous, but who in their right mind would ever have their action that high?
you are a amazing luthier,if thats not your main job,it should be
I'm guessing you used the cresent to turn the allen wrench...
Love your vids, man!!! Merry Xmas and don't let the asshats get you down
All of these guitars sound great though, the baja and 2012 tele included. I just wanted you to be able to make an informed decision. =)
one piece neck you have to remove the skunk strip to take it out and that would be a huge job
Where can I get the lil wooden tele change holder or whatever Dave?
Maybe so, I'm not sure yet about the fretboard. I just can't tell. In my case, the cost wouldn't be all that much for whatever it takes to repair it, but if one was paying the labor ... yeah, it would be cost prohibitive. I too know wood like most don't. I've not only worked with wood, I've done everything from planting and harvesting the trees, to working in the lumber mills, even selling it a Lowes. Wood that isn't rotted out can be manipulated, if you have the time, knowledge and means to do
couldnt you now replace the truss rod nut now that you can adjust it
So, is replacing the truss rod nut not an option on this one?
by the way, we got off track. Uncle Duke said replacing the truss rod NUT. That's a hell of a lot easier to do.
where did you get the humbucker sized pick guard? :)
height saddle adjustment? left > down. right > up . is that ok?
Dave, is it me or does the nut look like its higher on the high E side ?
It's pretty deep in there
Crescent wrench to turn the Allen wrench he had tapped into place.
:-) Rastafarian Telecaster THC (The Horrible Colors) Custom Shop Special?
Good save!
Truss rods can be replaced ... but it's a pain in the butt. Of course, you have to remove the fretboard ... that's just the start of your troubles, if you have the tools and time to do it. I know Davey has a steamer, so that isn't a problem. He probably has all the clamps and things to reattach the fretboard after the truss rod is replaced, so no problem ... just the luck of the draw, sometimes you get it to work ... sometimes you don't.
Its a Jimmy Page replica by the looks of it, at least the painting on it. Looks very good.
The Baja is almost the same set up as the 2012 American Standard, I think they should keep those features for the Baja tele but leave the American Standard alone for the simple fact that It's the longest production run of any solid body guitar in history. There's a reason for that.
I don't disagree that anything can be fixed. I do however think that this is a single piece of maple and has no glued on fretboard. Only Dave can prove us wrong. That said, the cost of repair is an issue. You could likely buy the highest grade Fender neck twice over before you paid for a repair like this. You'd never ever be able to tell the difference. I'm sorry, but I know wood and you just wouldn't. The tonal differences would be imperceptible.
wheres the flowers and weed leaves?
you forgot the one tool dave.
the great canadian beer
Did you say "asshat"?
Agreed
Yikes, lucky for the owner you managed to muckle that wrench in
For instance, I've been reworking a trashed fifties Stella on and off for months. Will it be worth the time in dollars? Hell no, never happen. Will it be worth it in the satisfaction of bringing something back to life that everyone else left for dead, yes. I can straighten warped wood, that's not a major problem for me. I invent processes and rigs to do what needs to be done. I don't believe in throwing things away if there's any way at all to save them. Send me your warped necks, I can save em
You have to lift the fretboard of the neck and pull it out..
Dave - 4.8 viewers will have their Christmas shopping done. The rest of us are like - 'Fuck it, I'll do it on Monday afternoon"...
I didn't know that Pagey got you to fix his axes for him... learn something every day. I take it he's going to pay you with a couple of big fat ones?
yep
Wow, that tele reminds me of Jimmy Page's dragon tele :P
That must be a Bob Marley Fender reissue Tele. hehe
Well, I respectfully disagree. It's clear there is no glued on fretboard from this video. True, we didn't see the skunk stripe, but no glued on fretboard means it must be in the back or some other way. I can't see how steam would remove that strip of wood without warping the neck to shit. This of course is my un-professional opinion, since I don't fix guitars for a living, but I have done wood working for 20 years;-)
damn! I want!
It's a copy of Jimi Page's Tele from way back when \m/
Watch the video you uploaded on Jan.21..2011 for more magic on how to take out a stripped nut...Cheers
Some will know and some will not know
Rasta colours!
Tailwindnyc look into a Baja tele :)
i do the same with lawnmowers
Jimmy Pagesque, apart from the humbucker
Stripped truss rod on a neck. Sounds like he bought it on EBay
The Page paint job
so. A new nut, that would be much at all. A new truss rod, well lets face it, no matter what, that's an expensive job if someone has to pay the labor, no matter how it's done. There is another problem, finding the proper neck, with all the right logos and all. If it's used, what happens to the rest of the guitar it was taken from? I see guys taking apart perfectly good guitars all the time because the parts are worth more than the complete guitar. I hate that. I want to make them whole again.
Why would anthonykalcic say that. If you don't like it don't watch it, make sense
Jimmy page!!!!!!
Jimmy Page Tele!
Jimmy Page much?