Quick tip: cleaning a noisy FM tuning condenser

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  • @bensolomon1872
    @bensolomon1872 4 роки тому +5

    Wierd that people would criticise - they must not be actual techs with a job to do. As a tech for over 50 years I learned a couple things from your excellent video. Also performed the demontrated procedure on an '80s stereo receiver with stunning results. Thanks, man!

  • @ostfan6147
    @ostfan6147 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks ! Fixed the tuner on the 1980 with your tips. Used a wet(alcohol dipped) toothpick to pinpoint and then scrape the green crud on the axle, then wiped off with cotton q-tip. Now I have complete range of channels!

    • @michaelwright1602
      @michaelwright1602 Рік тому

      I know this is old, but that DioxIT has a bit of lubricant in it, so best to use that vs alcohol. These tuners need that bit of lubrication.

  • @williamhermann9101
    @williamhermann9101 4 роки тому +3

    Used your procedure on my Kenwood KT-6500. I'd been blaming weak stations vs. strong, crowding by nearby stronger stations, signal strength, location, etc. Put in a powered antenna - no real improvement. Your process worked great. I didn't see any corrosion (green or otherwise), but apparently it was there. Soo pleased. Thanks very much!

    • @williamhermann9101
      @williamhermann9101 4 роки тому +1

      I might have mentioned that used DeOxit D100, which also allows doses as individual drops to avoid coating the fins and changing their capacitance. Thanks again.

  • @gl8585
    @gl8585 4 роки тому +5

    Wow, I just used WD40 and some Qtips, a thinned chopstick to apply WD40 precisely, and a clean tooth brush, to clean and lubricate a Kenwood KT 7500 FM tuner’s air capacitors, hard to believe the difference, all but one station is now at or close to 5 on the signal meter, and can find them all with mute on and either wide or narrow band, and the background hiss is greatly reduced on several problem stations! Thank you Jordan for the demonstration.

  • @georgethomas9436
    @georgethomas9436 8 років тому +6

    Wow Jordan. I have a Marantz 2250B I bought new. Moved that thing all over the world while in the AF. It still works good but the tuning noise was real high just like you demonstrated. I just got done doing what you showed and the stations are quiet while moving the dial and even the stations are stronger. Thanks alot. By the way. I think I watched almost all your videos. Great ones.

    • @blueseruser
      @blueseruser 6 років тому

      Love your thoughtful insightful well documented videos. Have recently renewed my interest in electronics from watching your work. Keep em coming!

  • @rodolfogomez382
    @rodolfogomez382 4 роки тому +4

    You should clean all the circuit plate using compressed air and detail with a small brush and an electronics liquid cleaner, dust is the cause of circuits fails like overheating, the radio looks in good shape to do a restore, change all electrolitycs capacitors and verify resistors and ceramic capacitors tolerance for change if necessary.

  • @marcdavis8842
    @marcdavis8842 4 роки тому +10

    To be honest if that was mine I would have just taken the extra time and cleaned the rest up. Grab some compressed air and blown all the rest of that gunk up or use a hover. Also if you don't have a Deoxit just use some IPA fluid with cotton buds same thing. Great video. 👍

  • @northlander4370
    @northlander4370 4 роки тому +4

    i didnt think you were going to stop moving the turner knob...i almost went to a truck site .

  • @rodolfogomez382
    @rodolfogomez382 7 років тому +10

    Why didnot you clean the chasis? dust gives origin to other fails.

  • @gearjammer5533
    @gearjammer5533 3 роки тому +2

    Jordan. should of watched your video first? Electric contact cleaner used and I sprayed the "whole" turner (fins and all). I see it didn't mess up my tuner and works ok(never do that again now I know), but my stations seem to be about .5 off where they were before the spraying(102.5 now at 103.0). Don't know if I accidently over turned the tuning knob to the end while cleaning? Is there any way to adjust it .5 and get back to true position? It is a Realistic STA-7 by Radio Shack. Had if forever and still is a good little unit in excellent condition. Thanks

    • @gerrymccracken6294
      @gerrymccracken6294 3 роки тому +1

      Great question...Did you ever get an answer?

    • @michaelwright1602
      @michaelwright1602 Рік тому

      You can realign the physical station needle, there are videos here on YT on the procedure.

  • @gmzx3
    @gmzx3 6 років тому +2

    I have a AM FM portable radio that started to get very noisy on AM when I went near 800kHz and it would also block stations in that part of the dial from coming in. Very annoying and sometimes intermittent. I took it apart and found no loose connections or dirty controls. Given I could get it to work properly for a while if I worked the tuning dial back and forth, I felt the problem was in the tuning condenser but it is in a plastic case. With little to lose, I sprayed plastic-safe contact cleaner into the condenser. The radio suddenly only got 3 stations and they were a few hundred kHz higher on the band. I thought that if I let it dry out, the condenser may come back to normal. It slowly did and the stations started to drift back to their correct places on the dial and in an hour all was well. I may not do this to an expensive radio but it saved my $30 one.

  • @sudhirsingh-sx8lo
    @sudhirsingh-sx8lo 3 роки тому

    thank you.got the same pioneer n been wondering whats going on.will give it a try.can i spray and brush the rest of the board also?

  • @nickfrench7372
    @nickfrench7372 3 роки тому

    Something I need to do with a vintage kenwood stereo tuner amp with the tuning capacitor making that noise on fm stereo.
    Quite a fair few fine tuning alignment adjustments on that tuning gang for am and fm stereo tuning.

  • @ceasaro9932
    @ceasaro9932 4 роки тому +1

    I noticed in your video you were tuned into the station but the stereo light did not come on. I have the same problem, also I am only able to receive one station on FM, nothing on AM - Pioneer SX-780

    • @alcameron6071
      @alcameron6071 3 роки тому

      You should invest any outdoor FM antenna. I had one of those crappy dipoles antennas and I will never make that mistake again. I get so many FM stereo stations on my receiver now it’s crazy.

  • @vincentmaes3554
    @vincentmaes3554 4 роки тому +2

    Since you brought up RF touch up, how do you do it?

  • @dcrook232323
    @dcrook232323 Рік тому

    I've got a T-7 operating perfect EXCEPT it's Pre-sets. Does not store any tuned station. Have attempted, per manual, to save various tuned-in stations on the 5 Pre-set buttons via the Memory button, no joy.
    An odd occurrence though, if I hold down Button #5 alone for 4-6 seconds, it slowly moves the tuning wheel/dial to the far right of the band. It may do the same on another of the remaining 4 buttons, I repeated the action multiple times. Any tips?? Haven't opened it up yet since the Pre-set feature is the only fault. I'm comfortable doing so.
    Note, it's a remarkable tuner!
    PS. I've searched a few sites today re: the potential of its bad rechargeable battery and changing it out could fix it!??

  • @larryshaver3568
    @larryshaver3568 5 років тому +1

    I used contact cleaner on my tuning capacitor [astro-sonic] and it didn't hurt the fins at all

  • @narendravadiya7219
    @narendravadiya7219 4 роки тому

    Verygood tip for f.m. radio.
    Now a days,most tuning capacitors are pvc types.
    Is there any solution for such fault?

  • @roetsj
    @roetsj 5 років тому

    IPA would be my choice,it cleans and evaporates very fast,no oily residu either

  • @paididoy
    @paididoy 3 роки тому +1

    You should have sprayed clean the PC board too. You already start cleaning, might as well clean the entire interior components of the receiver not just a certain portion!

  • @vegetablepolice1
    @vegetablepolice1 4 роки тому

    I have an old am fm with 7 of these in it .2 seem to be fm one for both and the others don't seem to affect reception at all positions of all marked beforehand

  • @miller1520
    @miller1520 5 років тому +4

    Thanks. While you're in there, you might have cleaned out the dust first. And then come in with the deoxit. That way the dust does not cake to the board where the deoxit spills. Thnx anyway, worked for me.

    • @magicfan4ever888
      @magicfan4ever888 4 роки тому +1

      I AGREE WITH YOU 100%.... NOT TOO PROFESSIONAL, THAT'S FOR SURE! I'M GLAD HE'S NOT MY TECHNICIAN.

    • @allenh118
      @allenh118 4 роки тому +6

      @@magicfan4ever888 I respectfully disagree. As a professional, you cant waist time doing unnecessary work.
      Unless the customer wants to pay for a thorough cleaning to make it look pretty, the professional thing to do is repair the unit and get it out the door. This keeps repair costs reasonable.
      It's the amateur tech that can spend the afternoon doing unpaid cleaning for the sake of ascetics.

  • @muhammadslwaey8829
    @muhammadslwaey8829 3 роки тому

    Greetings to you dear friend, how can I make a very powerful external antenna .... I went in the past few days to the old used radio market and got one with a variable metal capacitor like the one you are explaining on now, in addition to the ferrite column and the wire around it and after removing it From the old radio, I did not know how to connect it to make an antenna for the radio, knowing that there are many and many videos on UA-cam explaining this, but I am confused about the correct way, please help

  • @jameswong4593
    @jameswong4593 2 роки тому

    Good morning excelent video.

  • @RickRose
    @RickRose 4 роки тому

    Nice job Jordan. I'm wondering if the problem with my old Kenwood KR-4070 is at all related. I listened to it all day today, and then at some point the station I was listening to started going in and out. Checked with another radio, and the station was fine. Tuned up and down the dial and was receiving okay on stations, but I noticed my "tuning" indicator needle was not moving at all, when normally it behaves just like the one on the Pioneer you show in this video. What do you think? I have not disassembled it yet so I can't comment on the appearance of the capacitor. Note that after shutting down and allowing a cool-off, it is behaving normally.

    • @tf7274
      @tf7274 2 роки тому

      Just wondering if you found the solution on the Kenwood.

    • @RickRose
      @RickRose 2 роки тому

      @@tf7274 No I never got up the gumption to open it up. I've got a Bluetooth input connected to it and use it that way, as just an amplifier.

    • @tf7274
      @tf7274 2 роки тому +1

      @@RickRose you can try compressed air before using any product on it. If there's any improvement than you are heading in the right direction. But my best trick is to turn off the stereo and move every button and knob 40 times. It can take 20 minutes without taking any shortcuts. I'm lucky...if I ask my wife she'll do it for me.

    • @RickRose
      @RickRose 2 роки тому

      @@tf7274 Cool I will try that--Thanks!

  • @Swenser
    @Swenser 4 роки тому

    I used electrical contact cleaner but seemed top have caused more of a problem on that mechanism. Would RP7 be ok to use?

  • @linkmasters535
    @linkmasters535 3 роки тому

    Would this make this thing easier to turn back and forth to free it up

    • @linkmasters535
      @linkmasters535 3 роки тому

      I used 3 in 1 oil and it moves a whole lot better not so stiff to turn back and forth what do I use to clean up the contacts

  • @RickMahoney2013
    @RickMahoney2013 5 років тому +1

    What is re align the RF ?

  • @derekstorey5889
    @derekstorey5889 5 років тому

    Hi Jordon great video nice receiver.
    I have A question on a sharp gf777 boombox no fm stns whatsoever I can pick up mw and lw would it be a capacitor issue or like your video deoxidation of fm tuner.
    Thanks Del.
    subscriber from London

    • @JordanPier
      @JordanPier  5 років тому +1

      More likely a bad switch or missing voltage to fm

    • @derekstorey5889
      @derekstorey5889 5 років тому

      @@JordanPier thanks Jordon.Look forward to catching up on all your uploads!

  • @loricastro3772
    @loricastro3772 2 роки тому

    Thanks for share!

  • @GhostOfDamned
    @GhostOfDamned 5 років тому

    I found one of these tuning thingies in my grandpas drawer
    Can you still use it for something?
    And mines a bit different from this one

  • @marksymbala1193
    @marksymbala1193 6 років тому

    Jordan would you have any low cost suggestions on how to get better am reception inside the radio?would adjusting the capacitor s do anything?replace them?any ideas would be appreciated.

    • @JordanPier
      @JordanPier  6 років тому

      Most of the am radios are just chips in these sets so there are little to no caps to replace in the am. It's really dependent on the antenna used and if the alignment is good.
      If your am reception sucks,ake sure there isn't anything near by that would interfere. This includes cfl and led lamps, cell phone chargers, laptops and their chargers, or anything with a switching power supply

    • @marksymbala1193
      @marksymbala1193 6 років тому +1

      Jordan Pier thanks for the info my radio is a Panasonic RX 5020 from 1980.its in great shape the am reception could use some work.

    • @marksymbala1193
      @marksymbala1193 6 років тому

      Jordan Pier how about adjusting or replacing the electoric capacitors?would that help with am reception¿

  • @subsonicdeathmonkey
    @subsonicdeathmonkey 3 роки тому

    Thank you

  • @marksymbala1193
    @marksymbala1193 6 років тому

    Jordan how is your pioneer now? I have a radio that makes those noises any suggestions about cleaning it?

    • @JordanPier
      @JordanPier  6 років тому +1

      The pioneer continues to work great. Just have to remember to exercise the tuner back and forth once in awhile.
      If you have a small radio that does the same the problem is most of them have sealed tuners that you can't clean. You can rock them back and forth repeatedly until they clear up but ultimately it's a flawed design

    • @KeepsOnBurning
      @KeepsOnBurning 6 років тому

      For small radios, spray Contact Cleaner in the variable capacitor and let it dry for a few minutes. It works fine, no damages or capacitance loss.

  • @Rams_hobby
    @Rams_hobby 4 роки тому

    Thanks
    Useful video

  • @marksymbala1193
    @marksymbala1193 6 років тому

    Jordan what are those seven terminals on the top of the capacitor? What's it for?how do they work?

    • @JordanPier
      @JordanPier  6 років тому +1

      They help align the tuning condenser by fine tuning the capacitence of each row of fins. YOU SHOULD NEVER TOUCH THEM without an alignment generator or proper knowledge of how to align the tuner or you can make it useless.

  • @qqkk5581
    @qqkk5581 4 роки тому

    If want anyone to see anything point. Not with your finger but with a dedicated pointer.

  • @marksymbala1193
    @marksymbala1193 6 років тому

    Jordan on my Panasonic rx-5020 the volume knobs are tight.any suggestions on that.the levers?

    • @JordanPier
      @JordanPier  6 років тому

      Mark Symbala they're stiff due to lubricants hardening. Spray inside the control - not from the front- shaft and work the control back and forth. The deoxit will usually clear this up. Lever switches too. Gotta take it apart

    • @marksymbala1193
      @marksymbala1193 6 років тому

      Jordan Pier thanks

  • @copout1405
    @copout1405 4 роки тому +1

    What would you do for old 77ish digital tuner?

  • @vegetablepolice1
    @vegetablepolice1 4 роки тому

    What are the metal squares with screws.

    • @JordanPier
      @JordanPier  4 роки тому

      Something you don't touch without alignment tools, equipment and a service manual

    • @vegetablepolice1
      @vegetablepolice1 4 роки тому

      So capacitors for am and fm .

    • @JordanPier
      @JordanPier  4 роки тому

      @@vegetablepolice1 most are adjustable if transformers. The trimmer capacitors are typically on the tuning condenser only. The others are for Am and FM mpx alignment. The FM if is fixed by ceramic 10.7mhz filters for the IF

  • @jameshopkins7333
    @jameshopkins7333 2 роки тому

    That sounds just like it Sansui 6060

  • @coolelectronics1759
    @coolelectronics1759 Рік тому

    uyyyyyyaaaaaeeehh!
    I got some cleaner on the fins on accident!
    Is it fucked now for sure?

    • @JordanPier
      @JordanPier  Рік тому

      Flush with CRC QD contact cleaner and let dry. Dont hesitate to saturate it. The qd will displace the cleaner like deoxit and will dry with no residue

    • @levent8208
      @levent8208 Рік тому

      @@JordanPier Well, I hope that he read your comment, thank you Jordan.

  • @iris3186
    @iris3186 8 років тому +1

    very interesting!

  • @MrTopsoil911
    @MrTopsoil911 7 років тому +2

    Boards are filthy. I do a major overhaul on all my vintage. Btw not good to do what u did. Easier method is to clean btwn blades. Anyhow.

  • @saarike
    @saarike 6 років тому

    Thank you!

  • @ianmorris8534
    @ianmorris8534 4 роки тому +1

    No, that awful noise was Jazz! (I love air gap caps!)

  • @nkohanowski
    @nkohanowski 6 років тому

    FM mono works fine, switch to FM Stereo, one channel goes out, other channel loses 95% power? Why? Old 60's tunner...

  • @attilarivera
    @attilarivera 4 роки тому

    👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @ovi_4
    @ovi_4 6 років тому +1

    Dude, before trying to show any of your ''useful'' tips I think the best thing you should have done is giving this nice tuner a proper all throughout clean and then, and only then, attempt to clean the variable capacitor and by the way. a jet of air would do a better job than what you've used. Cleaning liquids are known to cause capacitance unless you allow them to dry for a day or so.

    • @1framistan
      @1framistan 5 років тому +1

      A jet of air will not always do it. My stereo is doing this, and I did the jet of air thing years ago. But that no longer does the trick. Yes.... dust between the plates can cause this as well. But eventually the grounding gets oxidized and in addition to dust between the plates.

  • @jayclark5538
    @jayclark5538 3 роки тому

    Ok dude we get it Jesus Christ ...
    Show us how to fix it

  • @lego40404
    @lego40404 6 років тому +1

    "Hypothetically" What should someone do If you make the mistake of spraying the sh!t out of the tuning condensor????? Is there a last ditch effort to resurrect

    • @JordanPier
      @JordanPier  6 років тому +4

      Douse it in denatured or 99% isopropyl alcohol to displace the cleaner, then blow it out and dry it

  • @oldguy8177able
    @oldguy8177able 5 років тому

    yes I thought it was something like this just clean it rather than replace it

  • @philshifley4731
    @philshifley4731 5 років тому

    Ok! Who's turn is it to clean the damn shop? Put a paint brush on that thing or something before getting that shite all over the place.