Tom Sizemore is such a shady looking guy to begin with, he could be donating money to a tip jar or helping an old lady cross the street or giving someone jumper cables, and he would still look fishy and menacing
@@Saturnia2014 Ok I’m sorry but that’s just stupid. Waingro was a literal serial killer. One desperate, bad decision by Michael doesn’t put him on the same level as Waingro.
1. All they needed there was someone to watch the guards. I don’t think they expected a psychopath 2. Depends on who recommended him If Jon Voigts character gave him the nod then that’s good enough for Neil 3. I get it. Neil tries to limit his risk YET. His right hand man is a gambling and drug junkie. So. Plus. Needed that mistake. Otherwise what? Al Pacino’s character never gets on them since no homicide
I think omitting it was a good choice. The ambulance and the explosives add some mystery still to what's about to happen, plus the effect of seeing them suddenly put on masks comes more of a shock without this mask scene to preface it and potentially give it away.
@Captain Torrent on the other hand it falls in line with the rest of the movie, Sizemore's character is already the one out of Neill's crew that gets identified anyway and them surveilling him is what leads Hanna to the rest of them, so it's not like it's totally inconsistent with the rest of the theatrical cut
@@dankspain Yeah but I feel like they cut like 4 Sizemore scenes we needed more of him. Turns out they HAD the footage they just cut it out. Would have made his death more impactful.
@DarkDarvor You´re not sure of what they are until they put on their masks? The first robbery takes place after 3 or 4 minutes.So it wasn´t exactly a twist that Sizemore was a bankrobber,it´s what he is supposed to be.They should´ve kept it in,I think.
The total of your complaints = Give more time and development for 10-12 more characters and at the same time cut the time of the movie in half? Sounds like a great movie, who needs the protagonist and the antagonist to be on screen at all, right?
yeah it was around but people weren't really buying stuff online yet, this still would have been a lot easier or maybe ordering out of a catalog by mail
@@diegocanale1124 But Amazon at the time only sold books and eBay most likely didn't bid on something as mundane as made in China hockey masks. Plus, these sites were only prominent to people who really used the internet; a street criminal would have no clue about it
@cjwright79 Didn´t see one word there where spaceburrr wasn´t applied but even if so,almost the entire cast of Heat was criminalieerr underused.The cast was just there for show,It was all about Al and Robin Hood. Like Inception,where the concept was the star,,one wants to call AA(Actors abuse),since both Mann and Nolan casted great actors and let them portray people without personalities.They got raped n abused so hard in both films,with or without spacebuurrr...
Ah, so you meant either cut the length OR flesh out the other characters. Fair enough, that makes much more sense. I have to disagree, I wouldn't have cut a single scene from the movie - but your view makes a hell of a lot more sense to me now than it did.
Not you,the endresult feels a bit pretentious. This is a film many force themselves to like,mostly people who are not into actors or film extremely. Everyone knows DeNiro n Pacino. Those two in the same film,crime...its a safe nr.1. -Oh,you dont love Heat? Then you don´t know movies. -Really? Okay,tell me 3 films by Michael Mann. -Eeeh..no? Why Should I? Who are you,God? Classic conversation.
Right..OR u know,u roll credits after165min. while having developed several supporting roles,atleast given a few some meat. OR hire actors like Cheech Marin. Waste Voight? OR u let em remain blank n understand the story is way 2 thin for any1 else to matter,cut the length in half,put All focus on the two leads..n dont throw in a pointless,funny,fuckin mini-portrait of how unfair ex-cons are treated in society as a sideplot(1 of 8),only emphasizing Manns need to make it long.Epic...pretentious?
For what makes good cinema,he says. Well,getting Sizemore,Voight,Kilmer,Judd and 10 more to just walk around like dummies..its not science,the characters in Heat are strangely underdeveloped,many AND the actors in 95 pretty known,awful combination. We know the leads are gonna steal the spotlight n when hollow McCauley works thanks to the actor who fights against the screenplay,not going with it,then yes,Heat has some huge flaws.
Tom Sizemore is such a shady looking guy to begin with, he could be donating money to a tip jar or helping an old lady cross the street or giving someone jumper cables, and he would still look fishy and menacing
Then he grabs a kid as a shield in the shoot out ugh
@@samanthab1923 Yeah, his character was really no better than Waingro imo
@@Saturnia2014 And that’s saying something!
Ahahaha, when you look up shady in the dictionary, his picture is there.
@@Saturnia2014 Ok I’m sorry but that’s just stupid. Waingro was a literal serial killer. One desperate, bad decision by Michael doesn’t put him on the same level as Waingro.
RIP my friend..legend 😇
Miss you brother
Rip
“Little early for hockey isn’t it?”
“Well, YOU’RE selling them!”
Still, nothing explains why Waingro was included in the crew. They were so professional, how could such a mistake have been made?
Interesting question.
He was a stand in and apparently Waingro is actually a legit criminal which is how he got the drop on Trejo. Hes just a hothead and a snitch.
1. All they needed there was someone to watch the guards. I don’t think they expected a psychopath
2. Depends on who recommended him
If Jon Voigts character gave him the nod then that’s good enough for Neil
3. I get it. Neil tries to limit his risk YET. His right hand man is a gambling and drug junkie. So.
Plus. Needed that mistake. Otherwise what? Al Pacino’s character never gets on them since no homicide
@@terrygracy8345 great points
Haven't ya had never bad decision?
To err is human.
Things appear cool, correct and ballanced,then a blink of an eye and they gone.
I don't know why they didn't include this scene in the final film. I think it really adds to the suspense.
Because that lady wouldn’t know when hockey season starts haha
@@aesop2020 yyyyooooooo
I think omitting it was a good choice. The ambulance and the explosives add some mystery still to what's about to happen, plus the effect of seeing them suddenly put on masks comes more of a shock without this mask scene to preface it and potentially give it away.
This scene is more badass than the bank shootout.
extremely based
even michael churito has to buy diapers for the kids
I like the background music
They should have kept this in the movie.
Yeah more depth to the character
Sizemore is awesome. Why'd this get cut? It would have added more tension to the film overall.
@Captain Torrent on the other hand it falls in line with the rest of the movie, Sizemore's character is already the one out of Neill's crew that gets identified anyway and them surveilling him is what leads Hanna to the rest of them, so it's not like it's totally inconsistent with the rest of the theatrical cut
They included the other scenes of Deniro Stealing the ambulance and Val Kilmer buying the explosives but they deleted this for some reason.
“Season is starting a little early this year” and the look over the shoulder are a bit cliche… glad it wasn’t included in.
@@dankspain Yeah but I feel like they cut like 4 Sizemore scenes we needed more of him. Turns out they HAD the footage they just cut it out. Would have made his death more impactful.
The viewer doesn't gain anything extra from the scene. Too much info
Yeah didn't fit. Felt cliche or something
"Well hello there Danny, i didnt know it was hockey season?"
“Season is a little early for hockey” when is it ever hockey season in sunny LA 😂
@DarkDarvor You´re not sure of what they are until they put on their masks? The first robbery takes place after 3 or 4 minutes.So it wasn´t exactly a twist that Sizemore was a bankrobber,it´s what he is supposed to be.They should´ve kept it in,I think.
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Dang. Even back then dollhouses were expensive
@tccs319 I believe they're on the Special Edition release of the DV/Blu-Ray.
The total of your complaints = Give more time and development for 10-12 more characters and at the same time cut the time of the movie in half? Sounds like a great movie, who needs the protagonist and the antagonist to be on screen at all, right?
@scarred2112 apparently,it was just released on the 1999 issue of the film...that sucks
he should have ordered them online....oh wait the WWW wasnt around in 1995.
Tom Sizemore is so sketchy!
A Chaps must be a kid the Internet was around in 1995 just in its earlier years as began in 1990 and fully used to public in 1995
yeah it was around but people weren't really buying stuff online yet, this still would have been a lot easier or maybe ordering out of a catalog by mail
Amazon was set up in 1994 and when this movie came out eBay started out as auction site
@@diegocanale1124 But Amazon at the time only sold books and eBay most likely didn't bid on something as mundane as made in China hockey masks. Plus, these sites were only prominent to people who really used the internet; a street criminal would have no clue about it
RIP
Hello Cdurr i have one question do you have this movie with deleted scene ????
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Name of the background song
Eric Clapton- will gaines
لا اله الا الله محمد رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم،، ،
@cjwright79 Didn´t see one word there where spaceburrr wasn´t applied but even if so,almost the entire cast of Heat was criminalieerr underused.The cast was just there for show,It was all about Al and Robin Hood.
Like Inception,where the concept was the star,,one wants to call AA(Actors abuse),since both Mann and Nolan casted great actors and let them portray people without personalities.They got raped n abused so hard in both films,with or without spacebuurrr...
TAHNK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Osorio brothers reenacted this scene in real life. #SmollettHoax
A Chaps yes it was
You're the one selling them lady!
C'mon, am I _ever_ going to get to see the inevitable "HEAT: the completely uncut edition" before I die?
If you know someone with decent Final Cut skills........
@@St.Maurice 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ah, so you meant either cut the length OR flesh out the other characters. Fair enough, that makes much more sense. I have to disagree, I wouldn't have cut a single scene from the movie - but your view makes a hell of a lot more sense to me now than it did.
I can understand why, this scene was quite boring. Even for 30 seconds !
Not you,the endresult feels a bit pretentious. This is a film many force themselves to like,mostly people who are not into actors or film extremely. Everyone knows DeNiro n Pacino. Those two in the same film,crime...its a safe nr.1.
-Oh,you dont love Heat? Then you don´t know movies.
-Really? Okay,tell me 3 films by Michael Mann.
-Eeeh..no? Why Should I? Who are you,God? Classic conversation.
Right..OR u know,u roll credits after165min. while having developed several supporting roles,atleast given a few some meat. OR hire actors like Cheech Marin. Waste Voight?
OR u let em remain blank n understand the story is way 2 thin for any1 else to matter,cut the length in half,put All focus on the two leads..n dont throw in a pointless,funny,fuckin mini-portrait of how unfair ex-cons are treated in society as a sideplot(1 of 8),only emphasizing Manns need to make it long.Epic...pretentious?
For what makes good cinema,he says. Well,getting Sizemore,Voight,Kilmer,Judd and 10 more to just walk around like dummies..its not science,the characters in Heat are strangely underdeveloped,many AND the actors in 95 pretty known,awful combination.
We know the leads are gonna steal the spotlight n when hollow McCauley works thanks to the actor who fights against the screenplay,not going with it,then yes,Heat has some huge flaws.
لا اله الا الله محمد رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم