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🌟 The Decline of Modern-Day Strikers: Are New Talents Failing to Fill the Void Left by Legends? ⚽📉
Today we explore the shifting dynamics of modern-day strikers in football. In this video, we delve into the concerns surrounding the decline of new talents as legendary figures like Suarez, Ibrahimovic, Cavani, and Lewandowski approach the twilight of their careers.
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As iconic strikers like Suarez, Ibrahimovic, Cavani, and Lewandowski edge closer to retirement, questions arise about the ability of new talents to step up and fill their formidable shoes. Join us as we examine the performances and contributions of modern-day strikers and assess whether they are falling short compared to the legends of the past.
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This nigga actually said Darwin Nunez wow😂😂😂
Lost me there I checked out after having a good laugh
There's no longer individualism.
It's all about team's playing the same way
Yah
Yes let's all park the bus and press.
Nah bro haaland fell off only 26 goals all comp smh he’s washed
😍I agree
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Tbf, there’s only a couple of world class strikers, and that seems about right. But if you consider the amazing strikers that all were playing at the same time from 2007-2020. Then you’d realize that there are a shortage of world class strikers
I’ll name some RVP, aubameyang, Cavani , drogba, villa, Suarez, Kane, Aguero, Benzema, zlatan, lewandoski
Now if we were to name the strikers on the level of those players today. I could name Kane, Haaland, Mbappe(?)(he’s more of a winger), osimhen, Martinez.
And honestly some of those are questionable. Osimhen has had a pretty bad season, Mbappe isn’t even a striker really.
Are there some decent strikers that could get into the best teams in the 2010s? Yes for sure. But would they have displaced those guys in their primes? Probably not. I mean I would take prime Luis Suarez over Mbappe, considering in his prime he out scored a prime Messi and Ronaldo, while sharing the pitch with Messi.
I’m not saying Haaland is a cheap copy of zlatan, but zlatan is what is being compared to Haaland, and zlatan clears Haaland as a footballer (dribblers, passer) and he was doing that shit at like 32.
I do think football has less clinical strikers, there’s some good ones, but back in the day, there was an abundance of strikers scoring goals for multiple teams. But in the modern era it seems like some teams for a season or two don’t even have a striker and have to rely on their wingers, and attacking midfielder to score their goals.
Football, has become more systematic and less about individual flair, this may be the reason why there’s less strikers. If you think about the ability to get into the right position to score or taking chances to score outside the box or from bad angles.
Great point, but just remember that they all started somewhere
I assure you if drogba, villa and auba were reincarnated now and we saw how they were playing hardly anyone would label them as worldclass. For auba it would be about his link up play and reliance on his pace, for villa it would be his physical profile and possibly his general goal scoring record, for drogba it would be his goal scoring prowess. but also a lot of goal scoring burden has shifted to other positions and this isnt new. rvp used to be a winger, drogba likewise, villa likewise, suarez as well and he also played as a 10, benzema was also a winger. Now we have son, salah, mane more recently. before that we had bale and so on. so this is a bit of cherry picking. good attacking teams often face low blocks and are reliant more and more on attacking rotations, set piece routines and counterpressing to create goal scoring oppurtunities. hence, less space in behind, and also fewer oppurtunities for strikers to beat a defender or to catch defenders exposed in transition because of how teams set up against big teams. Also the statistical barrier for world class is much much much higher now -- i think in part because of ronaldo and messi. but ronaldo and messi probably faced some of the generally weakest defensive competetion we have seen in the last quarter century at least -- both in terms of general defensive structure, and also the emphasis for defensive personnel. now we see a shift back to some older personal methods such as back 4's with players all taller than 6 feet, or the normalization of center backs playing as fullbacks. Recall Ronaldo was considered world class and balondor competetive even with 2 seasons with less than 20 league goals, he was an elite goal scoring threat at that time. Now we can have people simulteneously say there are harldy any worldclass strikers yet in many leagues there are numeroues elite goal scoring threats -- kane, salah, haaland, mpabbe, gyorkeres, watkins, dovbyk (who based on his skillset and track record should have a lot more acclaim) etc.
But also that past football was about flair or had more flair i dont know if that really holds true. there was a lot more duels and long balls in older football, or rather there was more chaos. but there is definitely still lots of mavericks, flair and individual brilliance now. perhaps in more repetitive and patterned ways -- such as repeated 1on1 attempts at a targeted defender, or reliance on press resistance from a single midfielder. but thats not entirely new either. look at how madrid relied on zidane, and how almost every game in the 2000s kicked off with an early long ball down the wings. if you want individual mavericks just look at a player like doku, or xavi simmons, or even ross barkley this season theres plenty more that play in such ways. and even in the past zidane doenst get to shine as bright without makilele. likewise hazard and kante.
Stop throwing around the term world class and not know what it means. There are more than a couple of world class strikers, it’s just that you only look at the two best strikers in the world without even paying attention to the others.
There are many world class players at every position. So it's weird that anyone would say that one specific position is lagging behind the rest. Especially since the amount of talent always grows over time
Exactly
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@@JibRules excuse me what game was playing in the background after the tom and jerry part.
It's wingers that are lagging behind, not strikers. Wingers are so boring now
there arent many world class left backs
Darwin Nunez world class potential?😂 the standard of strikers is objectively worse rn. The only certified world class strikers r lewandowski, kane and haaland. There are good strikers but few world class ones. I’m sorry but claiming the likes of Toney, Chan n Watkins r gonna be world class to the ilk of strikers we had in the past is laughable n one of the worst takes I’ve ever heard. Once upon a time we had aguero, Costa, suarez, benzema, drogba, Rooney, falcao, ibra, tevez and these r just to name a few. Idk how u can look at the names I just mentioned n look at the striker market rn n not accept that there’s been a big drop off. In a market where Darwin Nunez is worth £65 mil only Lord knows how much prime Jamie vardy would’ve been worth lol, and he wasn’t even top 10/15 strikers itw.
That Darwin Nunez take from Jib is super sus.
Ah says the 2010 boys
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The moment he said Darwin Nunez I just knew this was hot garbage, how is Darwin Nundles close to being world class dude has missed the biggest chances in the Pl, what is this man smoking?
Yeah- bad take from me. He’s DEAD
@@JibRules you have only bad takes and ur not even funny
Nuñez is literally world class tho. He’s easily in the top 1000 players. He also plays in the best league in the world how is he not world class?
Nowadays many teams play with the striker dropping deep and the wingers coming inside sort of like firmino mane and salah at Liverpool. You can see it with arsenal now also with Havertz dropping deep and saka and Trossard coming in. Even Kane drops deep for Munich. Wingers score more goals now than they used to for this reason. The goals are more shared around in teams
I completely agree. Many teams utilise the false 9 more than a true striker therefore a natural decline of "real" strikers has occured
I mean i agree with you but i think old striker were more complete player but now a days it's all about having possession so strikers have to make perfect run to receive pass and score. They can't just go and tried to score from 40 yards
Nah I mean some do, it all depends on tactics. Even Haaland before joining City was a more complete striker, nowadays he's a pure target man, I feel Guardiola's not using him in his fullest, even with the risk of diminishing his overall output. His performances in the Madrid matches were embarrassing, he should implement more variegated movement to become more unpredictable, just like he used to do with Dortmund
I really like Santiago Gimenez on this regard
@brutanedda3107 True, his best moment of the game was when he went deep, defying Pep's instruction, to get the ball, dribble past 4 or 5 defenders, and get the ball to Grealish. I'm a City fan, but Haaland needs to go to a club like Madrid, where they're more of a counter attacking and through ball team, rather than a possession team like City.
@@SemmeralddynamicsBaammyHaaland isn’t cultured enough to carry the burden of being a Madrid no9
At this point even a 39 year old Cristiano has more in-game influence than Haaland.
Let's be honest, we RARELY saw Haaland dribble, score long shots or make an Ozil-esque pass.
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Ur point makes sense but theres also this possibility that why werent there strikers brewing like a cup of tea while ronaldo, messi etc were in their prime?
ronaldo and messi were not strikers, they only played those roles occasionally, and out of necessity in messi's case (he was a false 9 when villa broke his leg). there are top goal scorers regardless -- haaland, mpabbe, salah etc. A lot of top teams also are less dependent on a main goal scoring outlet and there are still all time elite strikers in their prime -- kane for instance.
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Man i really miss old style strikers like Van nisterlooy , batistuta ,crespo and trezeguet they were so damn crucial in clinical matches.
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great video Jib. I just wanted to mention Deniz Undav and Serhou Guirassy who are truly worldclass right now. Hopefully they stay at Vfb Stuttgart and people can see this bundesliga duo in the Championsleague next season. And Mathys Tel looks like a future ballondor winner
I have previously made a video about Guirassy- I’ll definitely be keeping an eye out on stuggarts development
I’m sorry but the modern strikers are dog shit ( I’m 28 years old) , you can’t tell me 5 world class strikers under the age of 30 years of age !!! Lewandowski is 36 !!! Kane is 31 !! Haaland and lautaro Martinez are probably the only ones that are world class , Gabriel Jesus, Darwin etc are so average …
I think just give it a few years and players will flourish
@@JibRules the problem is 10 years ago we already had strikers that were world class under 30’s ( kun aguero , Luis Suarez, cavani , benzema, Lewandowski, falcão, Diego Costa , Van persie , Rooney ) not to mention player’s above 30’s ibrahimovic , drogba , David villa , this generation’s is very mid ! A lot of clubs they don’t have strikers , Madrid, Man utd, chelsea
Some are not world class but getting close.
1) haaland
2) osimhen
3) lautaro
4) Boniface
5) gyokeres
6) kane is still 30
7) isak
8) vlahovic
9)thuram
10) Toney
11) guirassy
Those are just from the top of my head and lots of them are having a phenomenal season
@@arthurwong9017 none of them are world class , only Haaland and lautaro Martinez and maybe isak….
@@diogopires4997 hence refer to original comment. Some are not world class. Close.
I agree that football is going through a transitional stage where strikers are required to do more than score but I think your overall take is very poor, stupid even. Most strikers we saw as strikers (Zlatan, Aguero, Kane, Lewandowski, Suarez, Rooney, Benzema, Cavanni) by the time they were 24-25 they had 150+ goals by then. Haaland is the exception cause he’s doing what nobody in his age range is doing. Osimhen is turning 26 and he only got more than 25+ goals last season. Lautaro just hit 150 goals this season and he’s turning 27 this year. The Alan Shearer you were insulting finished second in the Ballon D’Or voting so yes he was one of the best strikers in the world at his time. All the players you mentioned as players who could become world class based on the trajectory of output they aren’t getting 150+ goals by 25. Isak may be the most overrated striker of them all cause based on his XG the amount of goals he’s scored is the same his scored. Meaning he’s neither over performing or underperforming. Before the Tottenham game he was underperforming. Plus this is the first time in his career he’s scored more than 20+ goals even though he barely had many injuries at R.sociedad at the 3 seasons he was there. Majority people didn’t know who Gyokeres was before he was scoring for Sporting CP. overall if you don’t know what your talking about man but you’ve mentioned that in your message thing under your profile picture
Loved the way you said "Højlund" 😂😂😂
Tbh as a bayern fan Kane has ghosted in most major games(leverkusen frankfurt 5-0 and others) but hes literally our new lewa replacement so true
Harry is way better than Lewandowski
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Football is just very different nowadays. Teams are too systematic and more often than not, most seems to play the same tactics and have the same ideology. Players are now athletes first, then footballers; clubs are now mega corporations. No club nowadays would allow the behavior and big personalities of players from yesteryear. Going back to the strikers discussion; there's simply no room for individualism and displays of flair. Strikers now needs to follow everything by the book in today's tactics, otherwise they'd compromise the already sterile and monotone style of play. Call me old fashioned, but football was more exciting and more of an spectacle 20 years ago.
When I think of world class strikers, I think of players who add beauty to the game and individuality while dominating the pitch at the same time. Strikers like Falcao, Van Persie, Zlatan, Suarez, and Balotelli are the first that come to mind. All who didn’t need years to show their ability. Of the newer striker generation, there are none that I’ve seen fulfill that. They do the same thing equally as well, the ones who are considered the best just do the same thing more and consistently. Football is also an art along with being a sport and the art is not there currently, especially with strikers.
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I would say it’s mostly from the older fans beca of nostalgia and the fact that strikers aren’t putting on that much of a show as say watching a Ronaldinho match
a hanful of world class strikers, 20 years ago there were way more ruthless assassins in diverse teams. Jardel, batistuta, henry, salas, Fenomeno, trezeguet, crespo, Romario, Klinsman
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I feel Julian Alvarez is one of these elite strikers only problems is his minutes and being played out of position
He's Elite in todays football, hes a bench player in Any other era
@@77_ACE. I would say it’s reversed in an earlier era he would easily be a starter
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i don't think there's no world class strikers.I think football is becoming very strategic and leaving people like hazard, neymar, young ronaldo whom have exceptional skills which comes with a lot more hard work to be fouled and be out for 3-6 months all the time
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We’ll never see the likes of Harry Cariano again. Retro striker indeed.
Players in general aren’t the same anymore football is going full circle it’s going back to the way it was before pele, players domt show off the individual flair anymore one on ones aren’t seen as much today between fowards and defenders
We are in the era of Tactical Systems also known as 70% Boring 30% Excitement per season
Defenders r way better that's why
It was different in Shearer's time. He was a world-class striker, but teams generally played with 2 strikers at that time, so there were more great strikers.
No.9s:
Van Basten
Batistuta
Romário
Ronaldo Nazário
Henry
Shevchenko
Hughes
Inzaghi
Cole
Crespo
Van Nistelrooy
Kluivert
Hasselbaink
Larsson
Morientes
Tristán
López
Adriano
Klinsmann
Trezeguet
Ibrahimović
Saha
Anelka
Wright
Eto'o
Weah
Drogba
Enrico Chiesa
Vieri
Zamarano
Bokšić
Viduka
Blanco
Luis Hernández
Berbatov
McCoist
Phillips
Owen
Fowler
Rush
Heskey
2nd Strikers:
Gullit
Cantona
Baggio
Del Piero
Yorke
Raúl
Edmundo
Zola
Bergkamp
Rooney
Litmanen
Basler
Le Tissier
Sheringham
The list of 2nd strikers could be much longer depending how we define between 2nd striker and attacking midfielder. So I'll do a list of great attacking midfielders whose career's overlapped with Shearer's too.
Zidane
Gascoigne
Hagi
Laudrup
Scholes (at times)
Gerrard (at times)
Rui Costa
Ortega
Rivaldo
Kaká
Deco
Xavi
Iniesta
Valerón
Moravčík
Sneijder
Ballack
Aimar
Amazing comment, thank you 🙏
People who say world class strikers no longer exist must know nothing about the Bundesliga
Kane, Guirassy , Openda and Undav have all been incredible also younger strikers who will be on that level soon like Sesko and Boniface
Nah, its just that they're less complete 9s, but it depends a lot on the system.
Yeah systems have restricted players so munch
So we not gonna talk about how the music paused when he said hojlund
Nobody realised- that brudda is WASHED
2:25 point of correction the most watched league in the world
I think, that's not a problemin it - problem is that, strikers, and other players not having characters, there aren't many players who stand out like Ibra, Rooney and others. Football is looking like product with brand fresh, marketing, graphics, sponsors and beautiful cover - but the taste isn't the same like previous years like 00-10 or 2016
There's a shortage of talent in football nowadays in general. Not just strikers. Players seem to be getting worse. Sure haaland is a legendary goal scorer but he's less talented than every other striker you mentioned before him that has retired or is about to retire.
I don’t think there’s a shortage, but more higher standards of what’s talent. Football has become dependent on players that come from once and a Millennium: Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi. Society is so used to them scoring 50 to 60 goals a season that anyone that doesn’t provide that is seen as “disappointing”.
@Susanoo1016 This is the wildest take I've seen. The average player 20 years ago has superior technique to the average player today. The focus today is efficiency and proficiency and physical performance compared to before, where it was mostly what you can do with the ball. Players are scoring more today than they ever did. Football isn't short of goals or goal scorers. The issue is that players aren't that good with the ball. The focus is elsewhere.
Jota > Nunez btw
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Halaand is never prevalent in big games... All the strikers you named cannot hold a candle to prime Suarez or Van Persie.
Haaland, Gyokeres, Oshimen, Nunes, Isak, Holjund
You just proved their point, hojlund elite😮 levels are shocking
Football is weird,it's more technical than skill
Real
I see people saying kane is better than haaland yeh he is at age of 30 kane knows where he should be and knows when to drop and when to be in box his experience is world class let’s see haaland prime from 26-32 then we’ll see which one was better harry kane is at his prime 😊
Went the entire video without mentioning a certain Frenchman going to Real Madrid next season... I'd say he's plenty world-class.
NOT A STRIKER
Falcao bro
Now football fans want strikers to play like prime Ronaldo and dribble past 4 defenders
He spent 6 miinutes talking about strikers but did not even mention one word about cristiano ronaldo
Cristiano is too good to be mentioned amongst peasants
W vid
W comment
No mention of mbappe???
Would you say isak can be world class aswell but staying with Newcastle?
I don’t think he will achieve that status if Newcastle don’t build around him and achieve UCL football consistently
So He wont reach his full potiental If Newcastle isnt good enough Thats fair
haaland, kane, nunez, mbappe, isak, ivan toney, mitrovic
Mitrovic is fraudulent
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1:00 what game is that
Fifa 08
You didn’t even mention mbappe
I don’t consider him a striker brother
He is winger
He's more of a winger
Oliver watkini😂
That’s his name 🐐
@@JibRules Oliver watkins😂
Kane 40 goals man
No mention of Vlahovic?? thats criminal... Dude is a Top striker
Very top- but his numbers aren’t amazing I’d like to see him at a different side
@@JibRules Put Haaland in Allegrentus (Allegri's Juventus) he will score 20 goals a season MAX (Allegri)
@BIazy But Haaland isn't in Juve, is he? Stop assuming everything, Vlahovic fits in a certain team or system, so does Haaland. Also, even if Haaland did only score 20mgoals, it would still be more than Vlahovic.
@@BIazybro put haaland in a team that is more of counter you’ll see Haaland real potential his average goals for Dortmund in a season was 40+ because of counter style by Dortmund and even in seria A he’ll become top scorer just because the play style of a team evolve by just having him a good through pass boom haaland is unstoppable
They say they are strikers but they are just centre forward which help in play making in new era of football or should I say it's the same strategy as the football of 60s and 50s.....
not mentioning karim benzema once in his video should be a crime
he’s a nonce that’s why
@@JibRuleshe and Ribery didn’t know she was underage, and the age of consent is 15 in France, she was under 18 so it was illegal for prostitution but he’s not a nonce, really like your vids but it’s not like he’s Gary Glitter.
This video is a lack of ball knowledge.
You didn’t even mention any striker from serie A.
Besides Osimen
Jackson
Bro forgot mbappe 😅
Winger in my books
Uhh so you agree there are only 4 world class strikers right now 😂 .
Harland is more like inzaghi
Inzaghi on steroids
@@JibRulestrue
Julian Alvarez!!!
We got Harry Kane and haaland
Dzeko is better then kane
Dont talk ball again, holy shit. Hojlund a top striker? Lmao
Isak world class or no?
All the strikers I mentioned could become world class and Isak is one of my favourites
Boniface?
Yes, missed him- baller
Some say haaland is championship level😂😭😭
They are idiots
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MBAPPE???????
Wingerrrrr in my opinion
Friendly reminder: The Premier league is not the best league in the world!!!
Why?
Then what is?
Bro, why you bashing 39 year olds?
I AM AGEIST
Lol 😆😅
Darwin Nunez? That’s when I turn the video off, bye!
This video is a massive L, poor calls
People want strikers to be more well rounded, not to just score goals cos the older generation strikers like lewy, Suarez, etc were very good on the ball and entertaining to watch, not just waiting in the box and getting hatricks from 0.5 touches of the ball. People actually want strikers to get hatricks while simultaneously being entertaining to watch when they’re not scoring goals. That’s why we are let down by 9s like haaland. Bro really called nunez like wtf 😂. I rate you but please, don’t call a raft of mid 9s in prem with your sole argument being they could be world beaters “wItH tImE 🤡”. Just like saying mc tominay could be a kdb regen with time. That sounds outrageous yeah? That’s exactly how you sounded in this vid. Darwin nunez??? Wtf
I dont agree with you strikers fell off
L TAKES from you ngl
Rip
Kylian Mbappe is world class
He is winger not a proper striker the runs haaland made mbappe can never made but the passes and flics mbappe do haaland dream of that both are accurate at their own position but mbappe as a striker is downgrade to his lw position I don’t know why real Madrid is going for mbappe instead they should have gone for kane orr Haaland
Waffling absolute shite
Jonathan David is so underrated
ligue 1 quality is so underrated. and this is also a narrative story which also covers up just how aesthetic this convo is. Lacazzette is an elite striker with elite technique in ligue 1 but struggled in the prem. messi has worked well with other elite attackers but struggled to hit the heights in ligue 1. Not to mention the way elite strikers in the past played at a time when there was less goals per game on average, and the questions that are relevant about the quality of teams attacks and the utility of strikers, let alone what makes a striker elite looks different. I mean look at girouds amalgamated skillset and the season he is having -- he has for a long time clearly been elite in some aspects of striker play, link up, attracting defensive attention, headers and not others (pace, finishing big chances) yet he also has immense success and has played in elite attacks domestically and with france as a crucial cog.
I think a video about Ligue 1 strikers is necessary cause look at the likes of Laca and Auba who struggled in their latter years at arsenal but are thriving in the League so what does that say? Was the system they played at arsenal flawed or is Ligue 1 easy. Their top sides success in continental competitions this season would suggest otherwise