Honestly, the only really bad achievements for both World/Iceborne and Rise/Sunbreak are the crown achievements. Otherwise both games are totally doable. Still not for everyone
I’m good enough after a long time to do the individual game achievements. To beat the harder tables I will generally use a cheat item. I still don’t love it.
Games you should quit before 100%: All the games you don't want to play anymore. I never understood people playing games they don't enjoy, just because some number isn't full yet.
Yeah, thats definitely a learning i had over the course of my gaming career. When all the trophy and achievement systems were introduced i became obsessed with 100% everything to the extent it sometimes felt more like a second job than a hobby. Thinking about getting every feather in AC2 still makes me cringe lol. Now i only do what i enjoy and it improved my enjoyment and stressless so much.
Yep. Ive only 100% like 5 games in my life. Most of my favorite games i have not 100%, like any fromsoft game even though I have about 4000 hours across ds1-3 bb and elden ring. Theres always one or two achievements that are just too much trouble. Of the games I have 100% 3 of them are spyro(1-3) when I was a kid, had more time and not that many games. Granted I play a lot of strategy game now too, and those are not meant to 100%. When one total war campaign can be around 25 hours and they have like 100 different playable factions at this point in the warhammer series..... yeah not happening.
@NOP-b6h ACII is my poster-child for games that wear out their welcome due to bloat. The majority of collectibles and repeat missions aren’t particularly fun, challenging, engaging, or ultimately even rewarding. Very much the case that it exists to justify the budget that goes into making multiple city sandboxes, when realistically the core story plus like one of each kind of bonus mission in each city district would already be enough. The game itself is great but the Ubisoft nonsense was strong even back then and absolutely cripples the pacing. On replays I’ve found myself wanting to quit by Venice and it’s because I tend to see as much content as I can, which is detrimental to enjoyment in games that are brimming with empty-calorie content.
@@owbu this! I find it funny when people complain about their backlog but they obsess over getting 100% on each game. There's no need to collect every single resource or take a picture of every flower.
Well I mean, yeah, I just assume for a channel whose primary audience is 18-44 yr old men I don't need to tell anyone not to do things they don't enjoy. I mean realistically unless you say run a youtube channel around the idea I wouldn't recommend it in like 99% of cases.
It's funny how 100%ing Tactics Ogre doesn't even come close to actually 100%ing it. The 100 floors are the ...first version. It goes to 115, then there's another around 25 for San Bronsa, then 4 more Coda chapters that the achievements don't even mention. The funniest part? That's like 50% of the game. There are so many plot variations, alternate cutscenes, and more based on how you play that even with the time jump option, it can take months to get all of them. Does give a new perspective when you see just how much of a liar so many of the characters are in these alternate scenes. Catiua losing her patience on someone because their boyfriend just died saving them, but she wants to leave is wild to see. Or a boss winding up permanently paralyzed in a wheelchair because you did half of their betrayal arc.
@@citizengomez7214 What's funny is that before Reborn, there was so little reason to do all that stuff. You had a handful of cool spells on the SNES version...the nightmarish drop rates of PSP, and then Reborn rocks in like "You get a relic, and you get some Summon 2s, and you get some crafting, everyone gets LOOT!....also Regen is good finally."
@LuciferHunter-kt7pm I've got 3000+ hours across all platforms on Reborn alone and I still haven't wanted to do that 🤣. It's more fun to find new scenes and be surprised.
Oh yeah one of my favorite gaming channels.i try to find channels with a generally positive pov. Maybe because I'm old and the anger of minor things just isn't there anymore.
Admittedly God of War Ragnarok is one of the few games I've 100%. Can agree Vanahime was the most annoying place with its day and night theme making it so hard to traverse. But the berserker bosses and other post game bosses made it all very thrilling to get that 100%.
Honestly I feel like it’s the most friendly game to %100 its the first one I’ve ever platinumed I was ready to move on to the next game after that tho for sure
I wanted to, but the gameplay and traversal is so boring. A lot of backtracking also, most areas you need to physically walk back which is just boring. I enjoyed the story, but quickly stopped right after.
For me it's any Tales of game, trying to 100% is such an insane grind just because of some having "Five star every skill"; as well as any game that has online stuff.
@@topnotchcupoftea I loved Tales of Arise, that platinum was a simple one compared to symphonia, Vesperia and many more. The issues is in those games you need to aquire every titles for every character, which leans into tons of missable and many playthroughs and they're are already very long games in general. I think symphonia alone requires a minimum of 5 playthroughs, due to various choices needed.
I 100%’d Tales of Arise, which wasn’t too bad: could all be done on one playthrough. Tales of Symphonia is my favorite so I will 100% it eventually, but it is not an easy task, even with a guide.
Ragnarok is such a fun 100%! All the collectibles qre very reasonable to find and there's a checklist on the map that makes it clear where you're missing things. The Berserker fights are also so fun. My gf also recently 100 percented it and she also had a great time. Vanaheim was totally fine
Honestly, as someone that tries to see as much content as I can in a single playthrough of a game, most games wear out their welcome long before their endpoint.
Been gaming over 4 decades on all types of systems and 100 percent completion of games has never even bothered me ever. I play it, watch the credits roll, assuming I'm into the game of course, then forget about it and move onto the next game. I know this channel is based on 100% completion in the context that it gives us a review of the entire package which is fantastic but for me, going after 100% would mean fun becoming a chore. And that's not what games should be about.
I enjoyed doing 100% with Ragnarok (platinum trophy for it on ps5, same as gow 2018). Key is to thoroughly scour environments as you go to limit backtracking.
Sure, but you can't do that in ragnarok. The game actively punishes you for exploring because it puts a roadblock of "get this ability to get to this area" a billion times. 2018 did it a lot better.
Ragnarok’s an example of environment detail being way too noisy. Finding collectibles became a nightmare because one path or bramble I couldn’t tell from the hundred of other pieces of bramble in my way
For Infintie Wealth, despite the issues you’ve listed (which are really only specific for that game tbf). 100%ing any Yakuza game is a long and painful experience at times (unlike Infinite Wealth and Like a Dragon, most of the games reward you with a secret boss for doing every side quest which can range from challenging to complete insanity at times)
I remember doing the math on the older Lego games to get all of the unlocks. It was incredible how much work they wanted you to do for so little reward.
I almost 100%’d Hogwarts legacy. I am just missing the achievement for killing every enemy type with ancient magic. (And the ones for playing to a certain point with each house, but that wouldn’t be too hard to get if I wanted to.) The killing every enemy type a certain way sucks because it doesn’t tell you which enemies you still need to do. At the end of the game I had 96% of that one, but I would have to around killing everything that way to try finding the few I missed. Not fun.
@@matthewcritchley5458 Hogwarts Legacy was just another Ubisoft open world game. If it wasn't so big, and just kept to the castle and immediate surrounding area, then it would have been a lot better. And I hated doing all 4 houses.
I feel like the outliar for liking the Rebirth completionist process! Absolutely it’s better when you’re just doing 100% of the base game, but drags like hell on hard mode with the VR battles too. I’m just a sucker for games that require you to almost exploit their combat for challenges, like Star Ocean via its crazy OP item creation systems.
I mean, this applies any game, really. Game achievements are carrots set out from other people for you. Getting used to chasing other people's carrots is just a bad mentality to have in life and having it in games can get you a bit conditioned to apply it in other areas where you shouldn't do it even more. Source: me, the guy with a love-hate relationship with the carrots in his Steam and PS profiles
Agreed, the whole completionist thing only appeals to a small crowd of gamers I think. There are exactly zero games, even among my absolute favorites that I have 100% because that's tedious AF and games are supposed to be fun 😅
Hey, Love your channal. You could think about including your 100% recommendation as a regular part of your reviews. It's part of what makes the channel unique.
I could but realistically I would not recommend getting 100% on anything for the vast majority of people like 99% of the time. I do try to include these anecdotes in the reviews though, I talked about Vanaheim in the Ragnarok video for example
@@MortismalGaming I think that is a good approach. We listen to your review and then weigh the pros and cons (that you thankfully always summarise with anyway!) to decide for ourselves if it's a game we would like to start. Throughout our own playing of the game we can decide for ourselves if the experience is worth continuing for however much of a percentage.
I always took Tactics Ogre 100% as something for the fans that were REALLY into the game, and i think content like that is fine. Maybe something that is a little samey but gives you more of what you already have so you can play with all the stuff you unlocked. I feel like that is one thing OG FFT lacked. It always felt kind of bad getting the best stuff in the game, but it was either a hunt to gather it all and by the time you do you are so incredibly overpowered you dont have anything to do with it, or they just give it to you 5 minutes before the final boss in which case you still cant really play with it. I had a blast doing a 100% run on Crystal Project, which is mostly just killing a mix of super bosses, but you more or less have to go into the super bosses WITH end game gear and setup or you will probably have a bad time (at least on hard, not sure how those fights went on easy or normal). You also unlock a harder version of the final boss which doesn't really give you anything but a pat on the back. Just padding a game world out with sidequests that don't really make sense or add to the story or the mortal sin that is randomly generated quests is just something I'm not going to show up for. I go into every game with the mindset of a 100%, but I don't actually take very many to that point because the 100% just ends up having a ton of bloat and not really any fun.
Here are the games I think of (not necessarily recent): Tales of Symphonia: perhaps my favorite game, but to get 100% you need to play through the whole thing a minimum of 5 times, making a different minor choice towards the end. I might end up doing this eventually just because I am obsessed. Civilization games (5 & 6 are what I’ve played): one game of Civ takes forever, but there are achievements for each leader and map type so it would take a lot of dedication and time. Tears of the Kingdom: so much side content, plus-like BotW-finding all the korok seeds without any good reward is crazy.
I find that as my career progresses and the busier I get with irl responsibilities the set of games that I shouldn't 100% and the set of games I have time to play is an almost completely overlapping intersection of circles. It's very rare to find a game where you can do a single playthrough while hitting all the achievements and feeling like you're still enjoying it the entire time.
The only game I’ve 100 percented the past decade was Elden Ring and that was because it was fun. I generally don’t find chasing meaningless carrots to be a very good use of my free time.
This is a great video because I think that having a "I want to 100% or at least see all of the side quests in a game" mentality can genuinely ruin otherwise great games. Rebirth, for me, has changed how I approach games. Whenever I can get over how badly I came to hate the game by the time I got to Gongaga, I'm going to go back and just play the story. I was so incredibly excited for that game and I literally can't even look at the box on my shelf without getting sad
As someone who 100% Final Fantasy 16, I can't really agree with you, but I understand your point. My own experience is that I am so absorbed into the combat and this was the first game where I actually never skipped a dialogue or cutscene, so I really enjoyed the side quests too. Some of them even got me a bit emotional. I only say "apples". But ultimately, replaying the game in Final Fantasy mode was a BLAST. Being able to absolutely annihilate most of the bosses with endgame builds and then suddenly struggling against most of the late game bosses because FF mode is really just a massive "fuck you" in the sense of Devil May Cry's "Dante Must Die", I loved finally beating even Leviathan and Omega to get the two final achievements. The rest of the achievements aren't hard either, it's just challenging you to do different builds.
I play games to have fun and escape the burden of responsabilities, nothing more. I don't 100% most of them. It's not only pointless, it becomes a chore and the total opposite reason of why I play games. However it's highly appreciated to have more to uncover when a game resonate more with me. Why bother doing all thoses 100%? To impress others? I felt the same with books back then. I had a huge bookshelf filled with already read books. Why did I kept them? To say at others : ''look! I've read them all!''... Nobody cares
It's funny you mentioned Final Fantasy 16 as I 100% it this past Fall and I rarely find myself going that far for most games I finish. Maybe it was tedious side quest resistance I developed from playing MMOs over the years that helped out. I didn't think it was so bad personally.
It took me almost 300 hours to 100% Tactics Ogre. That includes the full palace of the dead and extra CODA chapters. Slog or not, this was literally the perfect Steam Deck game. Have 30 minutes to kill? Play one battle and set it aside. I ❤ my Final Fantasy chess pieces.
I did 100% Phantom Doctrine at 112 hours total over 2 playthroughs (1 in 2019 and 1 in 2023) + the doing the start of the 3rd playthrough for the final achievement. I would definitely not recommend doing 100% in one go. Though I would still recommend the game for the Firaxis XCOM lovers
I'd include FF7Remake too, subquests are there to artificially extend the duration and the main story was already extended in many places unnecessarily.
I'm very often impressed by your 100% approach. I have in total 3 games at 100% (all 3 are Mimimi stealth tactics games) and 2 others being very close (one more Mimimi + Horizon Zero Dawn). 😂 The thing is: even in the stuff I enjoy very much I'm not particularly good at it. So most of the time, achievements for the highest difficulty are not my thing.😅
Very interesting. I really liked the side content in Ragnarok, I think it managed to enrich the main story, the only gripe I would say I had with side stuff was that the whole mystery of the Crater part in Vanaheim felt bit unfinished. Other than that, Platinum that was very much worth the time and I would gladly replay it all, if I didn't had huge backlog waiting
I've mentioned it a couple of times and you probably won't ever play it because it's only on console but the dark chronicle platinum trophy is just pain because of the awful requirement to get all badges in every dungeon, one of which becomes inaccessible after you finish it so you can't just come back with all the stuff you need and sweep it, you have to grind for literal hours to get all of them.
I think what needs to be said in regards to tactics ogre reborn however, is the fact that you can literally autopilot all the encounters. You don't have to play manually at all if you don't want to. So if you do it on the side while watching a movie or something, it doesn't feel like a chore at all
Heh, I've done 3 of these. Tactics Ogre Reborn does require you to complete floor 100 of the Palace of the Dead (The "Necromancer Scourge" trophy/achievement), which is a huge hassle to even unlock the ability to do, but that's not even all of the content since there's also CODA 2-4 and the San Bronsa Ruins. Infinite Wealth really wasn't that bad compared to most Yakuza games if you don't have the DLC, would actually recommend it in that case. FF16 was a soul-crushing platinum because FF mode changes almost nothing so you have to complete the entire game again for no reason. Other bad ones: Monster Hunter World + Iceborne (crowns), FFXIII (Treasure Hunter farming), Dark Souls 3 (covenant item farming).
I didn't expect to see God of War in this video, but maybe you're right. Once the main story was over, I wasn't very excited to play it anymore. The difficult optional bosses were the only thing that felt worthwhile in the post-game content.
Final Fantasy 16 is a game with a lot of 10/10 moments, but is still a 7-8/10 game overall. I still love it so much though and the soundtrack is amazing as well
I feel like in most games , the majority of the achievements are: 1)freebies 2) really grindy uninteresting ones 3) die X times / die in this way (the dumbest "achievements" of them all) So I don't feel the need to 100% games, I have better ways to waste my time, thank you :D On the other hand, the difficulty/ "flawlessing" bosses/occasionally ironman ones and achievements such as the "Sadistic Game Design" in WotR where it's like the developer directly tells you "that would be the ideal way to play the game", sometimes i just feel like I HAVE to :D
Some of the early side quests in ff16 are dull but they get better as the main quests progress.They add a lot of depth to the world the lore and the characters. I also think that's it is best if you to do side quests as they appear as a lot of them are related to events in the main quest and it will get a bit confusing if you try save them for later after completing a bunch of main quest missions.
Infinite Wealth doesn't seem like it would be that bad to 100% if you're just going by Steam achievements. Now doing everything off the in game list I completely agree on. The more recent games are a lot easier to platinum compared to some of the earlier games.
I just 100% Tactics Ogre Reborn. I remember taking breaks because POTD burned me out. Towards the end I just used Lord and Liches and spammed magic nonstop. I know how dedicated you were to finish after the slog of POTD.
I like the side quests in FF16 be because the characters were always interesting and engaging even if the task did always seem interesting at first glance.
I sometimes wonder why I'm obsessed enough with Baldur's Gate 3 to play it so many times. I had a 190-hour run, now about 80-hours into my second playthrough (a year later) and already planning my third (and perhaps final) playthrough. But as I do all this, there are so many other games I also want to play that I'm not playing. I am mortal. (But I'm also having a lot of fun on my second playthrough and hope my third, maybe next year, will still be fun.)
100%d FFXVI a few days ago and I completely agree the side stuff doesnt make the world richer beyond some final personal quests for your hideaway people and drags the pacing down hard. None of the rewards felt empowering or changed how you play the game at all. I will take your advice for Ragnarok in the future!
For me it’s Kingdom Come Deliverance. I put almost 200 hours into that game and the hardcore mode with all negative perks won out. It’s one of my top 5 games of all time and I still don’t have the heart to get it to 100%.
I see Tactics ogre in the thumbnail and totally get it. Funny part is I'm pretty sure that newest pc release is the easiest one to do all the CODA stuff in
Well considering that last night, I spent well over 3 hours troubleshooting the Fallout 4 Automatron DLC - only to just finally accept that it's unplayable - add FO4 to the list. 300 hours in and I'd wager 50 of those hours were spent waiting on loading screens or restarting the game after it crashed. I really think this is the buggiest game I've personally ever played.
Idk, my wife and I completed ff16 and surprisingly we loved every single side quest. For us it really fleshed the world out for us and made if actually feel real. I know they're damn near all fetch quests and minimal rewards, but, journey before destination.
Exactly. I felt like Mortismal didn't play through many of the side quests if he says they don't add anything to the world whereas that's exactly what they do. They're not about rewards but more story/lore exposition.
@@Caffrey90 I have a feeling it is more about the 'review schedule' sort of pressure. It does not help to appreciate that more relaxed exploration experience when your main focus is to 100% it. Maybe Mortim enjoyed the game bu not so much as to do all the side quests, especially if they were a bit lackluster, given that he has played such a huge ammount of RPGs, he's experienced too many already and it probably feels more repetitive to him than for us mortals
@@Caffrey90 I dont try to be a prick, but most of the side quest are objectly bad when you compared them to games like the witcher 3, some of the side quest of cyberpunk, Baldurs Gate or older rpg games.
@@alejandrosilva528 oh for sure. Witcher 3 side quests ruined side quests in any other game for me 😅. But XVI quests are well written and they do add to the worldbuliding. They aren't just rewarding with equipment in most cases.
Suikoden as a series soured me on being a completionist. Yakuza 3 nailed that coffin shut. Now once i finish a core game, i look up what I missed and skip anything that doesnt catch my interest.
I'm glad FF7 Rebirth was not on the list! I recently 100%'d it and loved (almost) every minute of it. However, my two playthroughs were spaced out by several months. I'm not sure my opinion would be the same if it was all in one go! Looking forward to the review
I got the platinum in Final Fantasy XVI and the sidequests, plus requirement to play it through in NG+, almost killed me. I really strongly agree with not going for 100% in that game, because it's simply tedious.
As someone who 100% every single Yakuza game from 0 to 7, I've yet to 100% Infinite Wealth. Not sure if it's fatigue, the turn based gameplay is very lackluster compared to most JRPG. And yes, I love mahjong. But I've been playing for 15 years so there's that
I probably 100% about 12% of my game purchases. By 100% I mean "complete main story campaign | 1 major strategic campaign + whatever I do to delay completing those". Yeah, it's a highly tailored and contextual 100%. I played Phantom Doctrine, played until the campaign-breaking save bug (like 82%?). Enjoyed it up until then. The rest in this vid were 0% for me. Neat vid, given Mort's channel & rep. I learned that I'm not in the channel's "primary audience", direct from the Mort hisself.
There's always outliers of couse but yeah about 85% of the people watching the channel are 18-44yr old men. Only .2% under 18, and about 3-4% women spread across all age groups.
I just finished 100%ing FF16 last night lol I dont think it was that bad. I did the side quests as i went through the main story so i wasn't doing a million back to back in the final chapter. Also did hunts between. I did love the game though, i was fully immersed and addicted
The outer worlds on supernova difficulty really messed me up but definitely help me think about video games differently having a full crew and having them survive really made me feel better and the combat become a real time tactics game and I enjoyed I don’t recommend 100% any elder scrolls games not because there not fun but it’ll just take you while.
Bro its hilarious you opened this with Rebirth 😂 I'm 90 hours in and I finally said fuck it I'm done with all the side content. I got to Gligamesh Island and tried the dual summon fights and about threw my controller across the room. What pissed me off about that was I spent so much time investing into that protorelic discovery to be met with some crazy stupid ass insane challenges. Half the time I couldnt see what the fuck was going on. Bahamuts big ass taking up my whole screen. And dont get me started on Queens Blood 😤
100%ing the PSP version of Tactics Ogre was so much easier. Reborn might have some nice quality of life stuff speeding up the battles, but the changes to make everything more "bullet sponge"y adds a lot more time than those quality of life things removed. I got to about floor 60 of the PotD before I called it quits. I already did all the CODA stuff on the PSP version, so I didnt exactly need to do it again with the PotD feeling like so much of an absolute drag.
While I think the FF16's side-quests do leave something to be desired, and you do need to do them twice to get the ultimate weapon on hard-mode, the quests do not take up that much of your time overall, adding a few hours at most to the total game time. I could say they're boring, but to me there's always going to be boring stuff when you 100% a game, and that not being too time consuming and I believe skippable on the NG+ mode makes them much more tolerable. Tactics Ogre, I agree with you, but not for Palace of the Dead. POTD honestly takes about 10 hours, most floors can be auto-battled, and you can skip probably a quarter of the floors if your goal is only to get to Level 100. The CODA post-game is much more challenging and time-consuming, most of which is not canon and just bonus content added, and you get fine rewards, but the reward to time ratio really isn't worth it to me. However, where I think 100% is not feasible, is the game has an in-game achievement system, that tracks did you get every item/conversation/event/etc. And that, I would not recommend to anyone. To put this in perspective, you get different conversations if people are alive or dead in your party, including Chapter 1 characters, so you're talking dozens of playthroughs, having to start at Chapter 1, specifically killing off characters you may have spent a lot of time investing stat boosts into, to go after all the dialog options. And then there's the item drops which are in some cases 1% RNG, and in the worst case you can't reroll via the rewind feature, and it just becomes something so time-consuming and not challenging that, even loving the game, I'd never attempt. In that vein, not sure if on your other list ,but Final Fantasy 10. I love the game, but the grind to build up character stats and so much blitzball and to get all the ultimate weapons kills the end-game for me and prevents me from going back to it. Unlike FF16, the massive time investment ruins any desire to go back and 100% the game, which I never did outside acquiring the ultimate weapons in the past.
For me it's Plague Tale: Requiem. Not that I wouldn't want to come back and complete everything on NG+. But I can't emotionally bring myself to go through its story again 😭
I generally 100% all games that I play, unless they are unbearable to continue which is rare. Would feel weird to not completely finish a game when I'm so fortunate to have all the free time in the world to do it.
Rangnarok side content is better than the core game if you ask me. Especially the Valkyries and other super bosses, the secret loot, etc. I got only three platinum trophies and this is one of them.
For me it isn't because of Palace of the Dead that I would not recommend 100% for Tactics Ogre it is more so if we take everything into account getting all the weapons, titles etc that is where it will fall apart for normal players even more so if you want to get the no incapacitations, no deaths, and no rewind titles which if don't know about them from the time you start your run you would already have messed them up.
One of the best games Ive played recently was Nier Replicant. But holy moley. Do NOT go for platinum. But the story, which starts kinda innocent, slowly ramas up and was 5/5. HIGHLY recommended. Just... skip the whole garden mini game. And dont go for upgrading all the weapons. There is still plenty of hours to be had. So dont worry
While I love Baldur's Gate, trying to get all thr trophies is a horrible pain. Worst of all: Beating the game on Legacy of Bhaal difficulty. It's just absurd. Enemies have their hit points tripled... and then add another 80 on top. So even a 10 hp enemy, now has 110. Only gets worse with their other stats. I also really like the Kingdom Hearts games, but never bother to 100% as that requires a bunch of really annoying stuff, like crafting every time and getting the highest ranking in all mini games.
I 100% Ff7r and it took a bit, to be fair most of it comes down to the mini games but its not hard to do just long. It also helped i loved the mini games i just wish some of them where deeper like the rocket league type game
This is going to sound insane but my husband and I randomly started playing the Disney Pixar Brave movie game that came out for PS2 on the PS+ store because it was a coop 2 player story game (yeah, we are REALLY DESPERATE for some couch coop games xD) and it was really easy & fun, we thought FOR SURE we could platnum it and get the trophy. All was going well until we got to this 1 boss and it was IMPOSSIBLE to beat it!!!!! Its like they just randomly threw an expert level Dark Souls boss in there. We tired over and over again but no luck! We had to Google how to beat it and everyone on there said the SAME THING that the game was super easy & fun but that there was just randomly that impossible boar boss 😭😭😭!!!! We were gaming until 2am trying to beat this thing and we FINALLY DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Id never felt more accomplished in my life, and i have a BA Honours degree_!!!
Might be an unpopular take (I don't know) but the sidequests in 16 wasn't as bad for me, what was the real problem was that they just imported the quest design of them from the MMO thinking that would be okay but if you kept doing them and got to the end of their quest chains some of them resulted in really good stories being told (like the one with the merchant and her brother I think) but you have to get through really bad quest design for it which can colour people's opinions on it.
I have over a thousand hours in Monster Hunter World, and I’m still very far from the Platinum Trophy. With Monster Hunter don’t try and actually 100% it. Just do everything that you find fun :)
i agree with yakuza, i just played yakuza like a dragon and the main story was fun but the side content felt like a chore. my rule of thumb is to stop playing if it becomes a chore and is no longer fun.
Tactics Ogre is just...too much of a good thing lol. There is a ludicrous amount of stuff to do in that game - I'm at like 90 hours in my Reborn save, and I haven't completed the story yet. I had to take a break, which turned into never returning to finish D:
you also shouldn't 100% monster hunter
You shouldn't.. but that won't stop me when wilds comes out
Especially Iceborne
The thought of just the insanity of crown hunting gives me nightmares.
Honestly, the only really bad achievements for both World/Iceborne and Rise/Sunbreak are the crown achievements. Otherwise both games are totally doable. Still not for everyone
true, had to use mods to do the crown achievements. one time i read a guy hunt 90 lunastras for the crown
Yakuza: mahjong
Me: *crazed yelling*
Mahjong is love. Shogi without guide and cheat items is horrible😅
I’m good enough after a long time to do the individual game achievements. To beat the harder tables I will generally use a cheat item.
I still don’t love it.
Games you should quit before 100%:
All the games you don't want to play anymore.
I never understood people playing games they don't enjoy, just because some number isn't full yet.
Yeah, thats definitely a learning i had over the course of my gaming career. When all the trophy and achievement systems were introduced i became obsessed with 100% everything to the extent it sometimes felt more like a second job than a hobby. Thinking about getting every feather in AC2 still makes me cringe lol. Now i only do what i enjoy and it improved my enjoyment and stressless so much.
Yep. Ive only 100% like 5 games in my life. Most of my favorite games i have not 100%, like any fromsoft game even though I have about 4000 hours across ds1-3 bb and elden ring. Theres always one or two achievements that are just too much trouble.
Of the games I have 100% 3 of them are spyro(1-3) when I was a kid, had more time and not that many games.
Granted I play a lot of strategy game now too, and those are not meant to 100%. When one total war campaign can be around 25 hours and they have like 100 different playable factions at this point in the warhammer series..... yeah not happening.
@NOP-b6h ACII is my poster-child for games that wear out their welcome due to bloat. The majority of collectibles and repeat missions aren’t particularly fun, challenging, engaging, or ultimately even rewarding. Very much the case that it exists to justify the budget that goes into making multiple city sandboxes, when realistically the core story plus like one of each kind of bonus mission in each city district would already be enough. The game itself is great but the Ubisoft nonsense was strong even back then and absolutely cripples the pacing. On replays I’ve found myself wanting to quit by Venice and it’s because I tend to see as much content as I can, which is detrimental to enjoyment in games that are brimming with empty-calorie content.
@@owbu this! I find it funny when people complain about their backlog but they obsess over getting 100% on each game. There's no need to collect every single resource or take a picture of every flower.
Well I mean, yeah, I just assume for a channel whose primary audience is 18-44 yr old men I don't need to tell anyone not to do things they don't enjoy. I mean realistically unless you say run a youtube channel around the idea I wouldn't recommend it in like 99% of cases.
Rebirth prompting this video is very, very fitting
It's funny how 100%ing Tactics Ogre doesn't even come close to actually 100%ing it. The 100 floors are the ...first version. It goes to 115, then there's another around 25 for San Bronsa, then 4 more Coda chapters that the achievements don't even mention.
The funniest part? That's like 50% of the game. There are so many plot variations, alternate cutscenes, and more based on how you play that even with the time jump option, it can take months to get all of them. Does give a new perspective when you see just how much of a liar so many of the characters are in these alternate scenes. Catiua losing her patience on someone because their boyfriend just died saving them, but she wants to leave is wild to see. Or a boss winding up permanently paralyzed in a wheelchair because you did half of their betrayal arc.
Based Coffee Potato take.
Your explanation actually makes me to play it more, it's an awesome game
@@citizengomez7214 What's funny is that before Reborn, there was so little reason to do all that stuff. You had a handful of cool spells on the SNES version...the nightmarish drop rates of PSP, and then Reborn rocks in like "You get a relic, and you get some Summon 2s, and you get some crafting, everyone gets LOOT!....also Regen is good finally."
I wouldn’t even think of 100ing tactics ogre
@LuciferHunter-kt7pm I've got 3000+ hours across all platforms on Reborn alone and I still haven't wanted to do that 🤣. It's more fun to find new scenes and be surprised.
Mortismals channel is like cozy comfort food on a rainy day
And it just so happens to be a rainy day
Hey...raining all day here too. And yes.
Oh yeah one of my favorite gaming channels.i try to find channels with a generally positive pov. Maybe because I'm old and the anger of minor things just isn't there anymore.
Admittedly God of War Ragnarok is one of the few games I've 100%. Can agree Vanahime was the most annoying place with its day and night theme making it so hard to traverse. But the berserker bosses and other post game bosses made it all very thrilling to get that 100%.
Agreed. It 60-70hs max to 100%, which is quite decent.
GoW to me wasn’t to bad with its 100%. Traversing is tedious I would agree, but the post bosses are great.
Honestly I feel like it’s the most friendly game to %100 its the first one I’ve ever platinumed I was ready to move on to the next game after that tho for sure
Yeah, it was a fun platinum and not too time consuming or extremely challenging.
I wanted to, but the gameplay and traversal is so boring. A lot of backtracking also, most areas you need to physically walk back which is just boring. I enjoyed the story, but quickly stopped right after.
Suprised Ragnarok was on here. I rarely 100 percent games but Ragnarok wasn't too bad
For me it's any Tales of game, trying to 100% is such an insane grind just because of some having "Five star every skill"; as well as any game that has online stuff.
I've only done tales of arise, loved that game from start to finish
@@topnotchcupoftea I loved Tales of Arise, that platinum was a simple one compared to symphonia, Vesperia and many more. The issues is in those games you need to aquire every titles for every character, which leans into tons of missable and many playthroughs and they're are already very long games in general. I think symphonia alone requires a minimum of 5 playthroughs, due to various choices needed.
@@riyuphoenix4533 holy moly that's a lot 😭
I 100%’d Tales of Arise, which wasn’t too bad: could all be done on one playthrough.
Tales of Symphonia is my favorite so I will 100% it eventually, but it is not an easy task, even with a guide.
Ragnarok is such a fun 100%! All the collectibles qre very reasonable to find and there's a checklist on the map that makes it clear where you're missing things. The Berserker fights are also so fun. My gf also recently 100 percented it and she also had a great time. Vanaheim was totally fine
Honestly, as someone that tries to see as much content as I can in a single playthrough of a game, most games wear out their welcome long before their endpoint.
Been gaming over 4 decades on all types of systems and 100 percent completion of games has never even bothered me ever. I play it, watch the credits roll, assuming I'm into the game of course, then forget about it and move onto the next game.
I know this channel is based on 100% completion in the context that it gives us a review of the entire package which is fantastic but for me, going after 100% would mean fun becoming a chore. And that's not what games should be about.
Crescent Hawks Inception should be 100%'d though.
I enjoyed doing 100% with Ragnarok (platinum trophy for it on ps5, same as gow 2018). Key is to thoroughly scour environments as you go to limit backtracking.
The stories the characters tell while traveling is the best part.
Sure, but you can't do that in ragnarok. The game actively punishes you for exploring because it puts a roadblock of "get this ability to get to this area" a billion times. 2018 did it a lot better.
Ragnarok’s an example of environment detail being way too noisy. Finding collectibles became a nightmare because one path or bramble I couldn’t tell from the hundred of other pieces of bramble in my way
Yeah Morty is just flat out wrong here.
I love Hollow Knight to death, but finishing the Pantheon is such a monumental task I will never finish it, and I am perfectly fine with that
Yeah that's the only achievement I don't have. Just cannot do the 5th pantheon it's too much. Everything else was a blast though
I've only 100%'ed like 6 games in my entire life (and I'm in my 40s) so I salute your efforts sir
For Infintie Wealth, despite the issues you’ve listed (which are really only specific for that game tbf). 100%ing any Yakuza game is a long and painful experience at times (unlike Infinite Wealth and Like a Dragon, most of the games reward you with a secret boss for doing every side quest which can range from challenging to complete insanity at times)
There are Amons in 7 and 8
@@paritoshdyeah they are but iirc you just got to get to the end of the endgame dungeons to fight them.
Thanks for the video. The first Disgaea entry... that's hundreds of hours of grinding. Onward to 400k. All glory to the algorithm.
I remember doing the math on the older Lego games to get all of the unlocks. It was incredible how much work they wanted you to do for so little reward.
Hogwarts Legacy, and Assassin's Creed 3.
Getting those 2 Platinums burned my soul.
I swear I got to like 99 point something% on AC3 before not knowing wtf else there was to do.
On the Wii U of all things lmao
Assassin's Creed 3 Hurt me.
I almost 100%’d Hogwarts legacy. I am just missing the achievement for killing every enemy type with ancient magic. (And the ones for playing to a certain point with each house, but that wouldn’t be too hard to get if I wanted to.)
The killing every enemy type a certain way sucks because it doesn’t tell you which enemies you still need to do. At the end of the game I had 96% of that one, but I would have to around killing everything that way to try finding the few I missed. Not fun.
@@matthewcritchley5458 Hogwarts Legacy was just another Ubisoft open world game. If it wasn't so big, and just kept to the castle and immediate surrounding area, then it would have been a lot better.
And I hated doing all 4 houses.
Omg the fanorona was a nightmare
I'd resigned myself to not having a video today so this was a lovely surprise!
I feel like the outliar for liking the Rebirth completionist process! Absolutely it’s better when you’re just doing 100% of the base game, but drags like hell on hard mode with the VR battles too.
I’m just a sucker for games that require you to almost exploit their combat for challenges, like Star Ocean via its crazy OP item creation systems.
I mean, this applies any game, really. Game achievements are carrots set out from other people for you. Getting used to chasing other people's carrots is just a bad mentality to have in life and having it in games can get you a bit conditioned to apply it in other areas where you shouldn't do it even more.
Source: me, the guy with a love-hate relationship with the carrots in his Steam and PS profiles
Agreed, the whole completionist thing only appeals to a small crowd of gamers I think. There are exactly zero games, even among my absolute favorites that I have 100% because that's tedious AF and games are supposed to be fun 😅
Hey, Love your channal. You could think about including your 100% recommendation as a regular part of your reviews. It's part of what makes the channel unique.
I could but realistically I would not recommend getting 100% on anything for the vast majority of people like 99% of the time. I do try to include these anecdotes in the reviews though, I talked about Vanaheim in the Ragnarok video for example
@@MortismalGaming I think that is a good approach. We listen to your review and then weigh the pros and cons (that you thankfully always summarise with anyway!) to decide for ourselves if it's a game we would like to start. Throughout our own playing of the game we can decide for ourselves if the experience is worth continuing for however much of a percentage.
I always took Tactics Ogre 100% as something for the fans that were REALLY into the game, and i think content like that is fine. Maybe something that is a little samey but gives you more of what you already have so you can play with all the stuff you unlocked. I feel like that is one thing OG FFT lacked. It always felt kind of bad getting the best stuff in the game, but it was either a hunt to gather it all and by the time you do you are so incredibly overpowered you dont have anything to do with it, or they just give it to you 5 minutes before the final boss in which case you still cant really play with it. I had a blast doing a 100% run on Crystal Project, which is mostly just killing a mix of super bosses, but you more or less have to go into the super bosses WITH end game gear and setup or you will probably have a bad time (at least on hard, not sure how those fights went on easy or normal). You also unlock a harder version of the final boss which doesn't really give you anything but a pat on the back.
Just padding a game world out with sidequests that don't really make sense or add to the story or the mortal sin that is randomly generated quests is just something I'm not going to show up for. I go into every game with the mindset of a 100%, but I don't actually take very many to that point because the 100% just ends up having a ton of bloat and not really any fun.
The hollow knight 112% isn’t very reasonable for majority of people
It’s 11pm here and I’ve never been so quick
Here are the games I think of (not necessarily recent):
Tales of Symphonia: perhaps my favorite game, but to get 100% you need to play through the whole thing a minimum of 5 times, making a different minor choice towards the end. I might end up doing this eventually just because I am obsessed.
Civilization games (5 & 6 are what I’ve played): one game of Civ takes forever, but there are achievements for each leader and map type so it would take a lot of dedication and time.
Tears of the Kingdom: so much side content, plus-like BotW-finding all the korok seeds without any good reward is crazy.
Also, Baldur’s Gate 3. I can’t imagine playing through it multiple times without mods.
I find that as my career progresses and the busier I get with irl responsibilities the set of games that I shouldn't 100% and the set of games I have time to play is an almost completely overlapping intersection of circles. It's very rare to find a game where you can do a single playthrough while hitting all the achievements and feeling like you're still enjoying it the entire time.
The only game I’ve 100 percented the past decade was Elden Ring and that was because it was fun. I generally don’t find chasing meaningless carrots to be a very good use of my free time.
I can certainly see that perspective but I like complete lists. That is the motivation for me.
Elden Ring is indeed worth the 100% imo
like 99% of games probably aren't worth 100%ing
Gems of War. They ADDED an even more grindy achievement just because Geoff Ramsay from Achievement Hunter was close to 100%.
That's honestly hilarious, I woudn't even be mad
Oh don't worry. I'll never 100% any game.
You can add any Assassin's Creed game starting from Origins to the list
A video of a few games you SHOULD 100% would be a nice pair for this one.
This is a great video because I think that having a "I want to 100% or at least see all of the side quests in a game" mentality can genuinely ruin otherwise great games. Rebirth, for me, has changed how I approach games. Whenever I can get over how badly I came to hate the game by the time I got to Gongaga, I'm going to go back and just play the story. I was so incredibly excited for that game and I literally can't even look at the box on my shelf without getting sad
As someone who 100% Final Fantasy 16, I can't really agree with you, but I understand your point. My own experience is that I am so absorbed into the combat and this was the first game where I actually never skipped a dialogue or cutscene, so I really enjoyed the side quests too. Some of them even got me a bit emotional. I only say "apples". But ultimately, replaying the game in Final Fantasy mode was a BLAST. Being able to absolutely annihilate most of the bosses with endgame builds and then suddenly struggling against most of the late game bosses because FF mode is really just a massive "fuck you" in the sense of Devil May Cry's "Dante Must Die", I loved finally beating even Leviathan and Omega to get the two final achievements. The rest of the achievements aren't hard either, it's just challenging you to do different builds.
I play games to have fun and escape the burden of responsabilities, nothing more.
I don't 100% most of them. It's not only pointless, it becomes a chore and the total opposite reason of why I play games.
However it's highly appreciated to have more to uncover when a game resonate more with me.
Why bother doing all thoses 100%? To impress others?
I felt the same with books back then. I had a huge bookshelf filled with already read books. Why did I kept them? To say at others : ''look! I've read them all!''... Nobody cares
It's funny you mentioned Final Fantasy 16 as I 100% it this past Fall and I rarely find myself going that far for most games I finish. Maybe it was tedious side quest resistance I developed from playing MMOs over the years that helped out. I didn't think it was so bad personally.
It took me almost 300 hours to 100% Tactics Ogre. That includes the full palace of the dead and extra CODA chapters.
Slog or not, this was literally the perfect Steam Deck game. Have 30 minutes to kill? Play one battle and set it aside. I ❤ my Final Fantasy chess pieces.
I did 100% Phantom Doctrine at 112 hours total over 2 playthroughs (1 in 2019 and 1 in 2023) + the doing the start of the 3rd playthrough for the final achievement. I would definitely not recommend doing 100% in one go. Though I would still recommend the game for the Firaxis XCOM lovers
I'd include FF7Remake too, subquests are there to artificially extend the duration and the main story was already extended in many places unnecessarily.
Yakuza 0, Kiwami and probably Kiwami 2, 101% completion + Mahjong 🀄️ and other various grinds …
Different strokes for different folks. I loved Vanaheim. Appreciate your videos.
I'm very often impressed by your 100% approach. I have in total 3 games at 100% (all 3 are Mimimi stealth tactics games) and 2 others being very close (one more Mimimi + Horizon Zero Dawn). 😂 The thing is: even in the stuff I enjoy very much I'm not particularly good at it. So most of the time, achievements for the highest difficulty are not my thing.😅
Very interesting. I really liked the side content in Ragnarok, I think it managed to enrich the main story, the only gripe I would say I had with side stuff was that the whole mystery of the Crater part in Vanaheim felt bit unfinished. Other than that, Platinum that was very much worth the time and I would gladly replay it all, if I didn't had huge backlog waiting
The thing I loved about the crater was that it was completely optional. Some of the best surprise content I'd ever come across.
I've mentioned it a couple of times and you probably won't ever play it because it's only on console but the dark chronicle platinum trophy is just pain because of the awful requirement to get all badges in every dungeon, one of which becomes inaccessible after you finish it so you can't just come back with all the stuff you need and sweep it, you have to grind for literal hours to get all of them.
I think what needs to be said in regards to tactics ogre reborn however, is the fact that you can literally autopilot all the encounters. You don't have to play manually at all if you don't want to. So if you do it on the side while watching a movie or something, it doesn't feel like a chore at all
why would you do it then? to get the 100%? at that point just play another thing, imo
Heh, I've done 3 of these. Tactics Ogre Reborn does require you to complete floor 100 of the Palace of the Dead (The "Necromancer Scourge" trophy/achievement), which is a huge hassle to even unlock the ability to do, but that's not even all of the content since there's also CODA 2-4 and the San Bronsa Ruins. Infinite Wealth really wasn't that bad compared to most Yakuza games if you don't have the DLC, would actually recommend it in that case. FF16 was a soul-crushing platinum because FF mode changes almost nothing so you have to complete the entire game again for no reason. Other bad ones: Monster Hunter World + Iceborne (crowns), FFXIII (Treasure Hunter farming), Dark Souls 3 (covenant item farming).
Yeah, my memory did in fact fail me, forgot about the Lich Nybeth achievement
I didn't expect to see God of War in this video, but maybe you're right. Once the main story was over, I wasn't very excited to play it anymore. The difficult optional bosses were the only thing that felt worthwhile in the post-game content.
NICE idea, this should be something you comment on in EVERY review.
Ragnarok is one of the few games I have platinum'ed and I do agree about Vanaheim but I really did enjoy the game and the platinum process!
Final Fantasy 16 is a game with a lot of 10/10 moments, but is still a 7-8/10 game overall. I still love it so much though and the soundtrack is amazing as well
I feel like in most games , the majority of the achievements are:
1)freebies
2) really grindy uninteresting ones
3) die X times / die in this way (the dumbest "achievements" of them all)
So I don't feel the need to 100% games, I have better ways to waste my time, thank you :D
On the other hand, the difficulty/ "flawlessing" bosses/occasionally ironman ones and achievements such as the "Sadistic Game Design" in WotR where it's like the developer directly tells you "that would be the ideal way to play the game", sometimes i just feel like I HAVE to :D
Some of the early side quests in ff16 are dull but they get better as the main quests progress.They add a lot of depth to the world the lore and the characters.
I also think that's it is best if you to do side quests as they appear as a lot of them are related to events in the main quest and it will get a bit confusing if you try save them for later after completing a bunch of main quest missions.
Infinite Wealth doesn't seem like it would be that bad to 100% if you're just going by Steam achievements. Now doing everything off the in game list I completely agree on. The more recent games are a lot easier to platinum compared to some of the earlier games.
I just 100% Tactics Ogre Reborn. I remember taking breaks because POTD burned me out. Towards the end I just used Lord and Liches and spammed magic nonstop. I know how dedicated you were to finish after the slog of POTD.
I like the side quests in FF16 be because the characters were always interesting and engaging even if the task did always seem interesting at first glance.
I sometimes wonder why I'm obsessed enough with Baldur's Gate 3 to play it so many times. I had a 190-hour run, now about 80-hours into my second playthrough (a year later) and already planning my third (and perhaps final) playthrough. But as I do all this, there are so many other games I also want to play that I'm not playing. I am mortal. (But I'm also having a lot of fun on my second playthrough and hope my third, maybe next year, will still be fun.)
100%d FFXVI a few days ago and I completely agree the side stuff doesnt make the world richer beyond some final personal quests for your hideaway people and drags the pacing down hard. None of the rewards felt empowering or changed how you play the game at all. I will take your advice for Ragnarok in the future!
I was just happy to get 100% of the trophies in Tactics Ogre, I can’t imagine playing another 100h after that
For me it’s Kingdom Come Deliverance. I put almost 200 hours into that game and the hardcore mode with all negative perks won out. It’s one of my top 5 games of all time and I still don’t have the heart to get it to 100%.
I see Tactics ogre in the thumbnail and totally get it. Funny part is I'm pretty sure that newest pc release is the easiest one to do all the CODA stuff in
I dunno how you don’t get burnt out. Playing video games like that is an endurance test
I get burnt out making videos, playing the games is second nature to me
Well considering that last night, I spent well over 3 hours troubleshooting the Fallout 4 Automatron DLC - only to just finally accept that it's unplayable - add FO4 to the list. 300 hours in and I'd wager 50 of those hours were spent waiting on loading screens or restarting the game after it crashed. I really think this is the buggiest game I've personally ever played.
I loved Ragnarok and went through on hard before I 100% it on the hardest difficulty.
Oh God, I just remembered I did 100% Tactics Ogre on my PSP. Man, I do not have that kind of time anymore.
Idk, my wife and I completed ff16 and surprisingly we loved every single side quest. For us it really fleshed the world out for us and made if actually feel real. I know they're damn near all fetch quests and minimal rewards, but, journey before destination.
Exactly. I felt like Mortismal didn't play through many of the side quests if he says they don't add anything to the world whereas that's exactly what they do. They're not about rewards but more story/lore exposition.
Do what's fun.
@@Caffrey90 I have a feeling it is more about the 'review schedule' sort of pressure. It does not help to appreciate that more relaxed exploration experience when your main focus is to 100% it. Maybe Mortim enjoyed the game bu not so much as to do all the side quests, especially if they were a bit lackluster, given that he has played such a huge ammount of RPGs, he's experienced too many already and it probably feels more repetitive to him than for us mortals
@@Caffrey90 I dont try to be a prick, but most of the side quest are objectly bad when you compared them to games like the witcher 3, some of the side quest of cyberpunk, Baldurs Gate or older rpg games.
@@alejandrosilva528 oh for sure. Witcher 3 side quests ruined side quests in any other game for me 😅. But XVI quests are well written and they do add to the worldbuliding. They aren't just rewarding with equipment in most cases.
Suikoden as a series soured me on being a completionist. Yakuza 3 nailed that coffin shut. Now once i finish a core game, i look up what I missed and skip anything that doesnt catch my interest.
I think most Final Fantasy games become tedious to 100% complete even if you love the core of those games.
Ff10 is just insanely long. Ff7 rebirth on the other hand is horrible and unfun.
I'm glad FF7 Rebirth was not on the list! I recently 100%'d it and loved (almost) every minute of it. However, my two playthroughs were spaced out by several months. I'm not sure my opinion would be the same if it was all in one go! Looking forward to the review
I got the platinum in Final Fantasy XVI and the sidequests, plus requirement to play it through in NG+, almost killed me. I really strongly agree with not going for 100% in that game, because it's simply tedious.
As someone who 100% every single Yakuza game from 0 to 7, I've yet to 100% Infinite Wealth. Not sure if it's fatigue, the turn based gameplay is very lackluster compared to most JRPG.
And yes, I love mahjong. But I've been playing for 15 years so there's that
Well done, 100% the yakuza series, that's crazy. Love those games so much
"You shouldn't 100% this Yakuza game" is a hot take if I've ever seen one.
I probably 100% about 12% of my game purchases.
By 100% I mean "complete main story campaign | 1 major strategic campaign + whatever I do to delay completing those". Yeah, it's a highly tailored and contextual 100%.
I played Phantom Doctrine, played until the campaign-breaking save bug (like 82%?). Enjoyed it up until then.
The rest in this vid were 0% for me.
Neat vid, given Mort's channel & rep. I learned that I'm not in the channel's "primary audience", direct from the Mort hisself.
There's always outliers of couse but yeah about 85% of the people watching the channel are 18-44yr old men. Only .2% under 18, and about 3-4% women spread across all age groups.
I just finished 100%ing FF16 last night lol I dont think it was that bad. I did the side quests as i went through the main story so i wasn't doing a million back to back in the final chapter. Also did hunts between. I did love the game though, i was fully immersed and addicted
I would have completed Vampire : the Masquerade Bloodlines at 200%%, if achievements were available. There are not, so...
I'm still dancing
TBH trying to 100% ANY of the numbered Yakuza games is an exercise in suffering.
The outer worlds on supernova difficulty really messed me up but definitely help me think about video games differently having a full crew and having them survive really made me feel better and the combat become a real time tactics game and I enjoyed I don’t recommend 100% any elder scrolls games not because there not fun but it’ll just take you while.
Bro its hilarious you opened this with Rebirth 😂 I'm 90 hours in and I finally said fuck it I'm done with all the side content. I got to Gligamesh Island and tried the dual summon fights and about threw my controller across the room. What pissed me off about that was I spent so much time investing into that protorelic discovery to be met with some crazy stupid ass insane challenges. Half the time I couldnt see what the fuck was going on. Bahamuts big ass taking up my whole screen. And dont get me started on Queens Blood 😤
100%ing the PSP version of Tactics Ogre was so much easier. Reborn might have some nice quality of life stuff speeding up the battles, but the changes to make everything more "bullet sponge"y adds a lot more time than those quality of life things removed. I got to about floor 60 of the PotD before I called it quits. I already did all the CODA stuff on the PSP version, so I didnt exactly need to do it again with the PotD feeling like so much of an absolute drag.
I could see some of the assassin's creed rpg series being crazy to 100%. Well done to those that have
I think AC2 was the only one 100%.
While I think the FF16's side-quests do leave something to be desired, and you do need to do them twice to get the ultimate weapon on hard-mode, the quests do not take up that much of your time overall, adding a few hours at most to the total game time. I could say they're boring, but to me there's always going to be boring stuff when you 100% a game, and that not being too time consuming and I believe skippable on the NG+ mode makes them much more tolerable.
Tactics Ogre, I agree with you, but not for Palace of the Dead. POTD honestly takes about 10 hours, most floors can be auto-battled, and you can skip probably a quarter of the floors if your goal is only to get to Level 100. The CODA post-game is much more challenging and time-consuming, most of which is not canon and just bonus content added, and you get fine rewards, but the reward to time ratio really isn't worth it to me.
However, where I think 100% is not feasible, is the game has an in-game achievement system, that tracks did you get every item/conversation/event/etc. And that, I would not recommend to anyone. To put this in perspective, you get different conversations if people are alive or dead in your party, including Chapter 1 characters, so you're talking dozens of playthroughs, having to start at Chapter 1, specifically killing off characters you may have spent a lot of time investing stat boosts into, to go after all the dialog options. And then there's the item drops which are in some cases 1% RNG, and in the worst case you can't reroll via the rewind feature, and it just becomes something so time-consuming and not challenging that, even loving the game, I'd never attempt.
In that vein, not sure if on your other list ,but Final Fantasy 10. I love the game, but the grind to build up character stats and so much blitzball and to get all the ultimate weapons kills the end-game for me and prevents me from going back to it. Unlike FF16, the massive time investment ruins any desire to go back and 100% the game, which I never did outside acquiring the ultimate weapons in the past.
Infinite Wealth. The DLC issue is valid but it’s not actually difficult to 100%.
Once you get overpowered you absolutely destroy everything in combat.
For me it's Plague Tale: Requiem. Not that I wouldn't want to come back and complete everything on NG+. But I can't emotionally bring myself to go through its story again 😭
I generally 100% all games that I play, unless they are unbearable to continue which is rare. Would feel weird to not completely finish a game when I'm so fortunate to have all the free time in the world to do it.
All of the Bioshock games because of the arena dlc grind are a nightmare to 100%
Rangnarok side content is better than the core game if you ask me. Especially the Valkyries and other super bosses, the secret loot, etc. I got only three platinum trophies and this is one of them.
Crash Bandicoot 4, that thing is brutal to 100%
I am two trophies away from having Ragnarok 100% and finishing Vanaheim did me in pretty hard.
For me it isn't because of Palace of the Dead that I would not recommend 100% for Tactics Ogre it is more so if we take everything into account getting all the weapons, titles etc that is where it will fall apart for normal players even more so if you want to get the no incapacitations, no deaths, and no rewind titles which if don't know about them from the time you start your run you would already have messed them up.
One of the best games Ive played recently was Nier Replicant.
But holy moley.
Do NOT go for platinum.
But the story, which starts kinda innocent, slowly ramas up and was 5/5. HIGHLY recommended. Just... skip the whole garden mini game. And dont go for upgrading all the weapons.
There is still plenty of hours to be had. So dont worry
While I love Baldur's Gate, trying to get all thr trophies is a horrible pain. Worst of all: Beating the game on Legacy of Bhaal difficulty. It's just absurd. Enemies have their hit points tripled... and then add another 80 on top. So even a 10 hp enemy, now has 110. Only gets worse with their other stats.
I also really like the Kingdom Hearts games, but never bother to 100% as that requires a bunch of really annoying stuff, like crafting every time and getting the highest ranking in all mini games.
I enjoyed it myself, but very understandable: ua-cam.com/video/lEb8_uUR7Og/v-deo.html
One great game that might fit is Celeste.
Fantastic game, but has some extreme challenges. Golden strawberries are... Something else.
I 100% Ff7r and it took a bit, to be fair most of it comes down to the mini games but its not hard to do just long. It also helped i loved the mini games i just wish some of them where deeper like the rocket league type game
This is going to sound insane but my husband and I randomly started playing the Disney Pixar Brave movie game that came out for PS2 on the PS+ store because it was a coop 2 player story game (yeah, we are REALLY DESPERATE for some couch coop games xD) and it was really easy & fun, we thought FOR SURE we could platnum it and get the trophy. All was going well until we got to this 1 boss and it was IMPOSSIBLE to beat it!!!!! Its like they just randomly threw an expert level Dark Souls boss in there. We tired over and over again but no luck! We had to Google how to beat it and everyone on there said the SAME THING that the game was super easy & fun but that there was just randomly that impossible boar boss 😭😭😭!!!! We were gaming until 2am trying to beat this thing and we FINALLY DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Id never felt more accomplished in my life, and i have a BA Honours degree_!!!
Might be an unpopular take (I don't know) but the sidequests in 16 wasn't as bad for me, what was the real problem was that they just imported the quest design of them from the MMO thinking that would be okay but if you kept doing them and got to the end of their quest chains some of them resulted in really good stories being told (like the one with the merchant and her brother I think) but you have to get through really bad quest design for it which can colour people's opinions on it.
I have over a thousand hours in Monster Hunter World, and I’m still very far from the Platinum Trophy.
With Monster Hunter don’t try and actually 100% it. Just do everything that you find fun :)
i agree with yakuza, i just played yakuza like a dragon and the main story was fun but the side content felt like a chore. my rule of thumb is to stop playing if it becomes a chore and is no longer fun.
I actually really enjoyed 100%ing GoW Ragnarök. FF 16 tho I fully agree with you. The side content feels a bit like filler to me. It ain´t the thing.
Tactics Ogre is just...too much of a good thing lol. There is a ludicrous amount of stuff to do in that game - I'm at like 90 hours in my Reborn save, and I haven't completed the story yet. I had to take a break, which turned into never returning to finish D: