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  • @AnnKilzer
    @AnnKilzer 4 роки тому +266

    As a Tokyo resident, it brightens my day to watch the conductors and platform attendants diligently point and check things. Thanks for making this awesome video.

  • @enigmadrath1780
    @enigmadrath1780 2 роки тому +87

    0:10 "It might look a bit silly"
    I actually thought it looked pretty sick. Very professional and smooth. I'm just a sucker for flawless gesturing

  • @luismvilla1
    @luismvilla1 3 роки тому +166

    I work for the railroad I'm the states, I started doing this before departure and it has helped drastically to get details. I've become more punctual with my departure times, passengers have also taken notice when I do this

    • @kornkernel2232
      @kornkernel2232 3 роки тому +9

      That's awesome to know that it really does works! Maybe give a shot to the management to give a shot if that can be implemented to the system as a whole. They should at least appreciate your idea.

    • @GoldKeralis
      @GoldKeralis 2 роки тому

      @@kornkernel2232 agreed, I feel like it should be a thing the whole world should be doing as it seems to make things like transport a lot safer and efficient

    • @Transitmaster8500
      @Transitmaster8500 5 місяців тому

      Indonesia actually uses this system on their railways so I don't see why the states shouldn't adopt this as well!

    • @01hotbone
      @01hotbone 28 днів тому

      I work for a train system in San Francisco Bay area I started doing this & it keeps me totally focused on my job duties

  • @flashflair
    @flashflair 2 роки тому +71

    I was really struggling mentally to remember if I locked the house door seconds after locking it. It was a panic inducing process that would make me stop my car and get out and walk back to the house to check again. With the pandemic isolation side effects my brain kept jumping around so much that I couldn't focus on the simple trivial task of remembering the action of locking the door seconds after locking it. Until I remembered my visit to Japan and how they were pointing on the train platforms. I decided to give it a try. It was like sunshine coming out through the clouds. I could peacefully go to my car and actually remember the action of pointing to the door and saying "locked". It's honestly a mental saving process. I love it.

    • @mudso
      @mudso Рік тому

      Have you consider recording the action while you are locking your door, also mentioning the date and time? That way you can really assure that in your mind, WITH an actual video reference in your phone, too.

    • @mercadocatherine_stem9a919
      @mercadocatherine_stem9a919 Рік тому +1

      ​@@mudsothat's a lot of work

  • @treelover4978
    @treelover4978 3 роки тому +28

    I just read the book atomic habit. This Pointing-and-Calling mentions in this book and i know about its now such a great 👍

  • @tommythuyen4063
    @tommythuyen4063 2 місяці тому +6

    In Vietnam, many people tend to ignore this method and then lead to mistakes or work accidents. I learned about this "Point & Calling" method in 2019 when I observed flight attendants closing the plane door. Since then, I have effectively applied it to everything in life, from cooking to operating equipment and machines. It helps me minimize mistakes or loss of concentration.❤

  • @GavinVeasey
    @GavinVeasey 2 роки тому +24

    I’m a rural mail carrier and I’ve started doing this at all my boxes and stops. It really helps me ensure I didn’t miss anything before I depart to the next box.

  • @whatsitsgalore
    @whatsitsgalore 4 роки тому +88

    I am totally going to try that to help me remember stuff. But I'm going to use the Japanese name Shisa Kanko, because it's cool.

  • @anonb4632
    @anonb4632 4 роки тому +325

    Laugh if you want, but their transport is among the best in the world.

    • @strumptavianroboclick5596
      @strumptavianroboclick5596 3 роки тому +1

      Ya and nobody owns a car.. its a result of size.. the population density demands a top notch system.. I point and call all day, my kids just ignore it.. and my parental system is amongst the best

    • @jun_suzuki42
      @jun_suzuki42 3 роки тому +15

      As a passenger I trust my lives on them.

    • @rohittkrr
      @rohittkrr 3 роки тому +6

      No one is laughing

    • @JerryChanD
      @JerryChanD 3 роки тому

      @@jun_suzuki42 As a foreign traveller, I trust your public transport :)

    • @Tokax
      @Tokax 2 роки тому +1

      I always thought the pointing was really cool since a kid

  • @SLCtica
    @SLCtica 4 роки тому +61

    I swear the Japanese are at least 20 years ahead of everyone in so many different areas. We should stop being so proud and learn from the good things other countries like Japan do. But I’m biased because I Love Japan ❤️

  • @Chew1964
    @Chew1964 4 роки тому +72

    The US submarine service uses it. We call it “point, read, operate”.

  • @AveryMilieu
    @AveryMilieu 4 роки тому +33

    Been doing that for years to maintain focus. I am easily distracted, chronic short term memory issues, and when I'm looking for something I put down or running through a daily routine, I tend to point at the thing I need to be focused on (my phone on the counter, locking the door, adding detergent to the laundry...) and say what it is I intend to do.
    There are So Many distractions that this really does help beat the "oh Look! A squirrel!" tendency I've had most of my life.
    I am reassured that this in not some personal quirk on the road to senility.

    • @atlasobscura
      @atlasobscura  4 роки тому +2

      Definitely not a bad quirk! It is extremely helpful to ground yourself in something with as simple a gesture as pointing. :)

    • @AveryMilieu
      @AveryMilieu 4 роки тому +1

      @@atlasobscura I point at the door I intend to use when I am leaving. I point at my shoes before I put them on, point at my purse to remember to take it. Some folks have a better time learning and remembering when it is associated with a physical thing.

    • @Mentocthemindtaker
      @Mentocthemindtaker 4 роки тому +1

      Should be part of standard teaching practice for children with ADHD to learn.

    • @valdasguzys8727
      @valdasguzys8727 2 роки тому

      You're not the only one. For many years been touching my pockets before leaving the house and talking to myself: "Keys", "Phone", "Wallet". Before locking the car or the locking house door. Turning of the stove or oven.

  • @rixxroxxk1620
    @rixxroxxk1620 2 роки тому +9

    Along with a safety first attitude, I feel it shows a level of professionalism and pride in their job. The Japanese seem to have mastered this attitude that other countries should take notice of. Well done video!

  • @archiox0628
    @archiox0628 4 місяці тому +2

    I am a work from home office worker. I have no bosses beside me to check my work, and my role makes me handle our products as the "last touch" before we send it to our clients (Im in the audio industry, no physical product, just data).
    Shisa Kanko allows me to double check the product with markers and conditions before I start uploading. It does work, and from our work assessments, I have far less mistakes than my coworkers who are in the office, whose products are even checked by our seniors before sending.
    I learned this from a Japanese coworker from my previous workplace, and used it ever since.

  • @thowell3031
    @thowell3031 4 роки тому +26

    I actually do this every time I hitch up my travel trailer. I check each connection point (hitch, pins, chains) and I think it helps.

  • @myhumbleperspective8345
    @myhumbleperspective8345 3 роки тому +10

    I am here because I read it from the Book, "Atomic Habits". The author was James Clear.☺️

  • @teslafreak
    @teslafreak 4 роки тому +9

    It seems so simple, but is really quite brilliant when you think about it.

  • @RFD7BL
    @RFD7BL Рік тому +4

    Fun fact : Indonesia also adopted the pointing and calling, they call it "tunjuk sebut" in Indonesia.and the ones who mostly use this are the train conducter, PPKA (railroad attendant), and the train driver.
    Sorry for my semi bad english

  • @TheHeavyshadow
    @TheHeavyshadow Рік тому +2

    0:10 I'm a huge fan of the adage "If it looks silly, but works, it isn't silly."

  • @bembs0256
    @bembs0256 6 місяців тому +3

    Indonesian Railways (KAI) has adopted pointing-and-calling since 2015 during the railway reform, and the results are incredible. Trains have become more punctual than before, work safety improved, and the number of incidents has decreased sharply.
    I’ve personally started to implement this technique in my daily life. For example, when I’m about to leave my house, I will call “Lamps off OK, stove off OK, doors locked OK,” etc.

  • @asupit1
    @asupit1 4 місяці тому +1

    This has to be implemented everywhere. Indonesian railway company did and improves their safety so much

  • @garimasharma7471
    @garimasharma7471 7 місяців тому +3

    Came to know about this from Atomic Habits.This method is great👍

  • @Tokax
    @Tokax 2 роки тому +5

    I loved Japanese trains since a kid it would be a dream to drive one especially a N700S!

  • @rajatmarwaha
    @rajatmarwaha 11 місяців тому +1

    Hi This video is really amazing. Would like to seek your permission to share this with my colleagues for training purpose only.

  • @lyucky1
    @lyucky1 2 роки тому +3

    I didn't know this was a "real thing"! I do this before I leave the house for a night out. I point at the outlet where my curling iron or straightener was plugged in and SAY "unplugged" - prevents that "oh shit" moment later in the night when you're wondering... "did I?"...

  • @lastmilejapan5463
    @lastmilejapan5463 10 місяців тому +1

    This practice has been widely adopted by the transportation industry in Japan. If you're in Japan, take a close look at truck or taxi drivers right as they make their turns or back up. It's to ensure that pedestrians or objects are not in the way. That split-second check really helps prevent accidents. It also helps others confirm that they are actually adhering to safety procedures. In case of an accident, the driver recorder will clearly show that an effort was made for safety purposes. Even within the warehouse, floor staff members point as they work to ensure that all the boxes within their mental checklist is checked off.

  • @kobedierckx2918
    @kobedierckx2918 Місяць тому

    Very interesting. I Came across this for the first time in the book 'Atomic habits' by James Clear. He explained it there as a way to become more conscious of your own habits. In this way you can recognize the cues and more easily change your habits. Today i revisited this video. I am starting with exams in 1 month and 10 days and have so much studying to do still because i was very active in my student organisation. But now i have so much university work to catch up on. No time for bad habits and wasting time anymore. By implementing pointing and calling i will hopefully become more aware of my unproductive moments so i can tackle them in the moment and get the most out of my days for studying. How wonderful it is that a simple technique created by managers for the railway company in Tokyo can be a transferable concept:)

  • @spacescienceguy
    @spacescienceguy 5 місяців тому

    I love this, and want to incorporate this into my own life and work where possible.

  • @SocialistDistancing
    @SocialistDistancing Рік тому

    I've adopted pointing and calling after a first saw it in a documentary about trains. It works, and I've been educating others about it.

  • @devonhughes3805
    @devonhughes3805 Рік тому

    Being prideful and diligent in whatever YOU do contributes to others doing the same. Members of Japanese society all keep eachother on-point and on-task and it makes life so much more orderly, clean, and dependable over there. I miss the 4 years I spent.

  • @spacecadet2226
    @spacecadet2226 5 місяців тому

    As someone who has done this all my life, glad to know it has a name and that I belong in Japan.

  • @AmanGaming521
    @AmanGaming521 Рік тому +2

    The fact that this system reduced errors up to 85 percent and cutted the accidents by 30 percent is insane

  • @robert-kovalyov
    @robert-kovalyov Рік тому +1

    I saw one conductor doing this on the mta nycta in brooklyn once years back while opening and closing the doors I taught it was very unique and others looked on with a strange face

  • @GitteTV
    @GitteTV Рік тому

    no wonder they're the best. They are so organised! 🚂🤚🏼👆🏼👏🏼

  • @RealNameNeverUsed
    @RealNameNeverUsed Рік тому +1

    2:48 my noob ass will point at the traffic and yell “Clear!” even when it’s not.😂

  • @jespinosa176
    @jespinosa176 9 місяців тому

    James Clear "Atomic Habits" told me so. This is a nice strategy :)

  • @spinakker14
    @spinakker14 4 роки тому +4

    I use it when playing board games or magic the gathering. It's great for me and for my game partners to keep track whose turn it is, what's happening, what actions are triggered

  • @xXshinichiconanXx3
    @xXshinichiconanXx3 4 місяці тому

    Been doing this for years when leaving home, making sure everything is closed, locked, turned off, etc...

  • @NE-cf5tf
    @NE-cf5tf Рік тому +2

    Hi, could I use this video for staff training courses? Do I need permission?

  • @modtomodern
    @modtomodern 4 роки тому +2

    I also lived in Japan and always watched the workers do this. The Japanese have fascinating hands, most very elegant, as best observed when they dance at O-Bon and at festivals or make your sushi. So watching them at work just filled me with wonder. I had fallen in love with Japanese boyfriend's because of their hands. I have fat farmers hands with stubby fingers and was always jealous of the thin fine fingers of my Japanese friends. Thanks for posting.

  • @BSECE12
    @BSECE12 Рік тому +2

    Atomic Habits by James Clear brought me here

    • @RahnyT
      @RahnyT Рік тому +1

      Same here lmao

    • @RahnyT
      @RahnyT Рік тому +1

      Amazing book so far

  • @bridgetdavis9752
    @bridgetdavis9752 4 роки тому +9

    Fascinating; I have never heard of this before!

    • @atlasobscura
      @atlasobscura  4 роки тому +2

      Well, there's your TIL for today! :)

  • @BarneyBarnett
    @BarneyBarnett 5 місяців тому

    I have been doing point checks at work for a while, people have noted it looks weird but im the only one that hasnt vriken a stop block yet cos i always point at it

  • @ablresearchThailand
    @ablresearchThailand 2 роки тому

    I saw Shisha ganko in Japan Airport, On the bus from arrived plane to terminal building. If you sit near a bus driver, you might see it. So cool.

  • @BelloBudo007
    @BelloBudo007 11 місяців тому

    When I first visited Japan and saw the 'white gloves and pointing' thing, I did wonder what they were doing. I suspected it had something to do with Safety and Thoroughness, but was only guessing. This video made it very clear. And Yes I'm pointing at you Japan. 😊👈

  • @ajmalrasak4641
    @ajmalrasak4641 4 роки тому +21

    I'm from Atomic Habits.

  • @JomarInFire94
    @JomarInFire94 5 місяців тому

    as an industrial engineer i can surely claim and consider this unique japanese pointing and calling method really convenient and effective in terms of their respective cognitive ergonomic aspects

  • @busara221
    @busara221 3 роки тому +4

    Atomic habits brought me here x)

  • @Jakal1391
    @Jakal1391 3 роки тому +2

    I've never been to Japan, but I've noticed this technique is used by referees in Asian regional Mixed Martial Arts! If a fighter is hurt or a specific rule needs to be enforced, the referee will point and make a call.

  • @fleischzerfetzer676
    @fleischzerfetzer676 Рік тому

    Reminds me a little bit on hand signals at aircraft carrier's. 😅

  • @nmplab
    @nmplab 4 роки тому +3

    After forgetting to lock my cabinet once on break at the dorm, I started to do this every time I go home from college for break haha. (no, nothing was stolen or touched, thankfully)

    • @ryan124007
      @ryan124007 3 роки тому

      I've also been doing it to check things before I leave somewhere.

  • @TuNguyen-my2xd
    @TuNguyen-my2xd 3 роки тому +1

    This method is very much useful.

  • @astha5229
    @astha5229 Рік тому

    I came here to watch this after reading about it in James Clear's book, Atomic Habits.

  • @VulcanOnWheels
    @VulcanOnWheels 3 роки тому +1

    I don't know if this is true for other countries, but in The Netherlands, (house) doors automatically lock when they're closed.

  • @vanaals
    @vanaals 4 роки тому +1

    It's how I remember learning to read. When my parents would read to me, they would point at the words they were saying.

  • @fadelhutama8330
    @fadelhutama8330 Рік тому

    Is Kiken Yochi the same thing?

  • @GabbiBelleS
    @GabbiBelleS 2 роки тому

    Catch me out here pointing & calling out things while driving. I keep going into autopilot when I drive and I make mistakes when I do that. So I think this method will help me remain focused when driving

  • @Kodasodanoda
    @Kodasodanoda Рік тому

    Very random but watching this reminded me of some of my favorite characters ever Emmet and Ingo who are conductors at s subway in Pokémon Black and white and they're art work always depicts them pointing and being loud

  • @Andiakhyar95
    @Andiakhyar95 Рік тому

    In indonesia, machinist using point and calling system, small thing but make good system

  • @arthurcab
    @arthurcab 3 роки тому +1

    Subway operators in NYC also do this.

  • @tuminol7426
    @tuminol7426 10 місяців тому

    Quiet interesting 😮

  • @obkb1150
    @obkb1150 7 місяців тому

    Meitetsu operates in the Nagoya area, not Tokyo, but otherwise a good video.

  • @IamWhoIam2023
    @IamWhoIam2023 4 роки тому +14

    You should visit the US to see the rats in train stations practicing pointing and calling

    • @SnownelVEVO
      @SnownelVEVO 3 роки тому +2

      Rats don't take the trains anymore here, it's faster to just walk.

  • @rubenfdez.-ramos550
    @rubenfdez.-ramos550 Рік тому

    It seems a good technique to prevent errors but I believe that is difficult to implement in others cultures like Spanish. On the other hand, I think "Pointing and Calling" could be a possible solution to reduce the effects of automation in train drivers who use a driving mode GoA2 or superior.

    • @mgancarzjr
      @mgancarzjr Рік тому

      Pilots do it during their checks. It crosses all language and cultural borders.

  • @mylifeisJDM
    @mylifeisJDM 2 роки тому

    I'm not 100 percent how it works but I do enjoy pointing and scanning before crossing roads. Makes me feel like a crossing guard.

  • @petermobius
    @petermobius 4 роки тому

    Fascinating!

  • @kwanarchive
    @kwanarchive 2 роки тому +2

    The only time you don't want to do this is putting your PIN into the ATM.

  • @bogsmyt
    @bogsmyt Рік тому +2

    Who is here because of the book titled Atomic habit? 😂

  • @fault3k
    @fault3k Рік тому +1

    love japanese people

  • @tempma1658
    @tempma1658 4 роки тому +1

    🧠 > 👀 > 👉‍‍ > 🗣️ > 🆗 > 👂‍‍ > 👌‍‍, 👍‍‍ > ✅

  • @pattylasko7567
    @pattylasko7567 4 роки тому

    I would like to see Mr. Radio's life-sized horse with all its parts!

  • @DannyoRaiden
    @DannyoRaiden 2 роки тому

    Best country once again✌️💚😊

  • @tomasbeltran04050
    @tomasbeltran04050 8 місяців тому

    Nice

  • @Sidewinder627
    @Sidewinder627 3 роки тому +1

    I LOVE IT

  • @Negentropy.
    @Negentropy. 4 роки тому +1

    The Cincinnati Street Car needs some Shisa Kanko

  • @vishalrajmehta4911
    @vishalrajmehta4911 2 роки тому

    Important train patri sefty ❤️☀️👍

  • @rudehr
    @rudehr Рік тому

    Did it last night under the duvet - my girl was not amused😮

  • @lemon2524
    @lemon2524 4 роки тому

    Nice.

  • @samudut
    @samudut 3 роки тому

    Indonesia train drivers/members does point too if they have permission to go

  • @tango22ah
    @tango22ah Рік тому

    As you begin to get older this is a great practice to adopt in your life e.g I have turned off the cooker! I have locked the front door and most importantly I have flushed the toilet

  • @sheenapelle
    @sheenapelle 2 роки тому +1

    Came here bc of Atomic Habits!

  • @snooopert1048
    @snooopert1048 4 роки тому +2

    Sounds like a great mindfulness activity

  • @Optimistprime.
    @Optimistprime. Місяць тому

    I work at a Japanese company, and we do point at times. But to be honest, it gets very monotonous that people actually point at nothing when there is supposed to be something there.

  • @cherriemay528
    @cherriemay528 Рік тому

    I've seen it not just at the train station even the airport staff and drivers and construction sites do it when i first came to Japan ahahaha japan is definitely interesting😅

  • @elipandaman
    @elipandaman 5 місяців тому

    >"trains in Tokyo"
    >has a clip of a red Meitetsu train from Nagoya
    🤔🤔

  • @bl00dhoney
    @bl00dhoney 4 роки тому +3

    Daito is a cutie 😍

  • @arleneanoche6782
    @arleneanoche6782 6 місяців тому +1

    Im here after reading ATOMIC HABITS

  • @arif.setia_ch
    @arif.setia_ch 3 роки тому

    Same as Indonesian railway

  • @MrBogardus
    @MrBogardus Рік тому

    I'll do this at my job looks like I'm talking to myself... which I am

  • @malazforever8222
    @malazforever8222 3 роки тому +2

    Who's reading Atomic Habit?🌚

  • @graceforlily272
    @graceforlily272 4 роки тому +2

    Atomic Habits brought me here

  • @swedishpsychopath8795
    @swedishpsychopath8795 4 місяці тому

    Technically it was invented by the real/original Norwegian Vikings (not the wannabe swedish / danish "vikings" that claim to be vikings). The Norwegians sailed their ships, saw something they wanted, pointed at it to make the fleet aware and went for it. So yep - a Norwegian invention! But happy to see it in use in Japan and other places.

  • @AlphaGeekgirl
    @AlphaGeekgirl 4 роки тому +1

    Interesting… But I still didn’t understand what it’s about.

    • @petermobius
      @petermobius 4 роки тому +3

      mental and physical reinforcement and feedback loops.

    • @ひろぽん-c9x
      @ひろぽん-c9x 4 роки тому +4

      Debi Taylor
      I’m Japanese and I think this video should translate the exact words there saying and what are they pointing at .
      For example: the train driver
      They are doing things like this
      (Departure )
      Point @ the time table paper and read and call:
      1)”Train no123 departures b-station
      @ 12:30”
      2)point the clock on the train and
      Read and call. “12:30 correct! “
      3)point the signal ahead check the light
      “Green , checked”
      4) point the warning lamp on the panel about a doors shut
      “ no warning , all doors are shut
      5)point the rail check no person or cars crossing
      “ no objects in front checked”
      6) here we go. ! Accelerate
      You train this over and over until
      You can do it without thinking.
      If something wrong it’ll be like
      “ door warning lamp is.......wtf ..on?
      He’ll grab the phone and talk to the
      co-driver at the rear end.
      “ hey some doors might be open,
      Could you get off the train and check
      With your eyes?”
      “ the door in the middle had stacked someone’s bag. I removed it problem solved “
      “ roger that.”
      Back to 1) and start all over again lol

  • @YoFreshWiggy
    @YoFreshWiggy 4 роки тому +6

    I always thought more people should learn ASL (American Sing Language).
    If you can’t hear someone from noise, you can at least see what they’re saying. We could communicate better in traffic, help keep tempers down. Or military use; still want to communicate during radio silence, all you need is line of sight.

    • @Mentocthemindtaker
      @Mentocthemindtaker 4 роки тому +2

      I wholeheartedly agree with this! But for me, being Australian, it would be AUSLAN. I honestly believe it should be compulsory for all teachers to learn and an abbreviated version (key word sign) should be a normal part of instructional technique in classrooms, paired with verbal instructions.

    • @YoFreshWiggy
      @YoFreshWiggy 4 роки тому

      Australia has it’s own sing language?!? How is it different from ASL? I’m assuming that we use ASL here in Canada, no need to make it more difficult to understand Americans.

    • @Mentocthemindtaker
      @Mentocthemindtaker 4 роки тому +2

      @@YoFreshWiggy AUSLAN is _completely_ different from ASL - it's literally a different language. AUSLAN is closer to British Sign Language (BSL) than ASL. But all of these - ASL, BSL and AUSLAN have regional dialects and some signs change depending on which part of the country you're in.

    • @YoFreshWiggy
      @YoFreshWiggy 4 роки тому

      Mentocthemindtaker Wow! I’m learning lots today! Thank you! Are the different sing languages relatively understandable to each other or is the syntax completely different? Would someone speaking in AUSLAN understand someone speaking in BSL?

    • @Mentocthemindtaker
      @Mentocthemindtaker 4 роки тому

      @@YoFreshWiggy Good question, and I honestly don't know. There are similarities in many of the signs, but other than that I'm not sure, sorry!

  • @iwanttochange-g8h
    @iwanttochange-g8h 2 роки тому +10

    atomic habits brought me here

  • @ddobry21
    @ddobry21 4 роки тому +6

    So, let me get this straight, they point to.....make a point?

    • @atlasobscura
      @atlasobscura  4 роки тому +2

      ;)

    • @triis8643
      @triis8643 3 роки тому +2

      yes, that's the point

    • @ddobry21
      @ddobry21 3 роки тому +3

      @@triis8643 Ok you guys seem to be on point about this. Point taken.

  • @Vv-gk4cu
    @Vv-gk4cu Рік тому

    Remember to inhale. Remember to exhale.

  • @wigwagstudios2474
    @wigwagstudios2474 2 роки тому

    Eh's Hands

  • @キジバト-h2x
    @キジバト-h2x 4 місяці тому

    へー指差し確認って日本発祥なのか
    しかもけっこう最近
    海外では指差し確認しないのかな

  • @stickynote2603
    @stickynote2603 4 роки тому +1

    Bring here because of atomic habits