Roman diplomats actually had a reputation for being extremely rude and brash, the reason was because Roman diplomats believed that they were the embodiment of Rome when conducting work, so to bow to a foreign monarch would be like if Rome itself bowed before this monarch, and because of that Roman diplomats would often act incredibly rude because they believed they were the state when conducting business
@@picollojr9009 not deciding the war, historicans call it a trench war without trenches, because sicily is a natural thick trench. the victory at sea was after two victorious battles of the cartagish navy, who was more experienced. one battle was in a storm, dramatic fighting scene. the romans had no quality seaforce, but they simply pushed new navies against the enemy until they got the idea to build these brightes on boats and beat the greek style-warships of the cartagish faction. the lose of the veteran carthagish navy was a shock for cartagish nobility, so they droped out of war and lost sardinia etc. they had problems in lybia and didnt wanted to pay the mercs, so they had a possible merc revolt a destroyed navy, who couldnt protect their sea trade and rebelish cities in africa....of course they asked for peace at that time. at the time of this trailer they conquered lydia for themself and controlled them directly, had a strong allied king on the massayer throne and hannibals family expanded their teritority in spain, while rome conqueren northitalian and illyrian areas. both sides got stronger, more flexible, convident etc. we have different sources about the geographic situation of a treaty made by rome and carthago about the expansion of carthagish actions in spain, to protect marseille and their colonies in northern spain. most carthagish non-barka families disliked barkas family like the romans. many carthagish nobles didnt wanted an open conflict with rome. the roman talked about turia, the carthagish side about ebro, the carthagish side claimed, both sides didnt really knew about the geographics of spain, this is a foreign province, who cares, so many historians claim, that the roman knew, that the city of sagunt was a "friend" of rome and thereby a good reason to attack carthago to stop their spanish expansion and fighting in spain over ressources, maybe making some sea wars against their ships once again getting more allies by destroying the carthagish fleet, thereby making their navy the only accecable patron. But in an case of a broken treaty (ebro-treaty) the romans had to send a diplomatic group to carthago....a hostile city.....to declear war.....with a shady reason......yea. the best historian to talk about these times, because he actual lived in these times and was in dirrect familiar contact with these people was Quintus FABIUS Pictor, but we know, that he hide the identity of some romans, who didnt wanted to be named in bad moments...like this delegation to basicly declare war to hanibal and than loose to hanibal a lot of times. And Pictor was called and argued himself to be strictly PRO-ROMAN. later historians claimed, that the delegation was lead by a FABIUS, but we are not sure, if it was THE Fabius, Quintus FABIUS Maximus Verrucosus, or someone else. There are a lot of Fabius out there until Cannae. In this battle the Fabish family lost 300 members. i suspect it was one of these members. Quintus FABIUS Maximus Verrucosus, who is portrayed in this trailer, was in reality by all sources a stoic rational speaker and a hardliner of the aristocratic faction, so a conservative noble traditionalist, was praised by cartagish nobles to basicly say to the carthagish nobles, make peace and back down compleatly, or we will declear war, the barka faction, who were the actual mainly privat owner of the spanish forces, said NO, so the romans decleared in that moment without a break or fancy talking the declearation of war, while being in this now offical enemy city in front of the famously roman-hating barkas and outraged carthagish nobles. not like this. this is drama made up by Livius. Fabius was a rationalist. he knew, that the death of the delegation by hannibals faction would destroy every legal reasoning for carthagish involvment in spain and that carthagish traditions granted his safety as diplomat. He didnt saw carthagish nobles as a barbarian culture. his war tactic could have defeated hannibal without a battle in italy. he argued against such a battle like Cannae and was the main reason rome didnt collapsed in their war effords after this big defeat. he wouldnt insult cartago, he would praise the carthagish nobles to be so wise not to support an idiotic war over a spanish nonroman, non carthagish city like a puppet of the barkas. its more likly, that hannibal wouldnt take a sword against a diplomat, he would try to stop the talks as fast as possible, thereby showing the truth, that rome have allready decided to go to war and this delegation was simply traditional show of roman legality for war.
@@apollomars1678 The Roman speaker is probably not meant to be Fabius. The whole scene is just a fiction with fictitious characters. In writing, it was Fabius who declared war: "...Then the Roman... said "We bring you here both war and peace; choose which you will!” When he had said these words, [the Carthaginian embassy] cried out with no less truculence that [Fabius] might give them whichever [14] he liked; and on his shaking out the fold again, and announcing that he gave them war, they all replied that they accepted it..." (Liv.21 18 13-14).
Awesome voicing and speech...I would definitely chose war after that "we buried your fathers" and "you should greet the dirt with open hands" and also the "fishing village"...really nice insults very nice
@@WitcherGerd But he still lost almost all of his elephants which was the original comment about. And what would have happened when he went around the Alps, saving his whole army and his elephants?
@@monjikhechini9724 he could've went to Rome and besieged it after the Battle of Cannae. He didn't do and wasted time while enabled the Romans to regroup
@Ved Singh Yeah it could be. But I'm saying that that could've been a possible outcome. The Roans were really really depleted in Italy by then and morale was at precarious levels. Maybe Hannibal didn't have enough forces. Maybe he couldn't hold on until Scipio arrived. But what I'm saying is that if he took Rome, the Capital of the entire Empire, they would have no option but to sue for peace. They could've atleast signed a peace agreement in Cathage's favour, effectively changing the course of history. More allies would join Cathage's side. Rome would be left friendless and would end up getting invaded on multiple fronts if they didn't stop the hostilities.
It's kind of like the American civil war, Rome had the unlimited industrial power and could send countless armies at Carthage while Carthage had one of the best generals in history.
The Punic Wars is one of the greatest wars in human history and the fact that HBO hasn’t made a series on it is just sad. I’d have to start with black screen before we hear “Hannibal my son” and then cut to Hannibal looking over the slaughter at Cannae under a grey sky with the sun shining through, with erect posture and lion fur cape waving in the breeze while the oath continues, and when it ends it cuts to black where we get some 20 or 30 years earlier message pop up. The fact that it hasn’t been made is in and of itself a cardinal sin that if you look hard enough I can assure you is in the original bible itself. “If doth shalt not make a kickass multi season show about the Punic Wars, doth shalt rain hellfire upon thy earth” Seriously it’s got everything, great battles, blood oaths, drama, incredibly perilous feats, monsters, rich characters etc. You name it, it fucking has it!
hannibal was in spain when this happened, and Fabius the man in the council of elders threatened them all with peace or war, they said "let rome decide" and he picked war
I love how Roman diplomats were always so arrogant. Its a trend in historic writing for them to be represented as such so we can assume they really were. Probably because they had Imperium just like a Consul or a Praetor and as such were in themselves an embodiement of the Roman State . Would Rome bow to anyone ?
This was the time of the Republic. Caesar wasn't born yet, so no Imperium. But Rome wouldn't have bowed to anyone, it never really surrendered, which is why it had been sacked so many times.
Striding Dream Imperium is a concept, one of the forms of power someone could have (like potestas and autorictas). An Imperator is someone who has command authority. It did not mean emperor in the modern sense. The title which made someone emperor in Rome was Augustus and not Imperator.
Just replayed total war 3 kingdoms again, and I decided to come back to what started it all for me... total war rome 2. This game will always have a special place in my heart and it will always be a game I will come back too for memories of the game that sparked my love for this franchise, and this is the trailer that made me want to buy the game. Amazing trailer, amazing game, amazing franchise
He wouldn't need Rome. He would decimate Rome to the ground easily. The Roman Evil White Supremacy is corrupt. What makes you say that fool!😅 He could be The True Roman Conqueror.
Glaber was a worthless nobody who got owned Fabius Maximus was a Legend a 3 time consul 2 time Dictator and Censor whose Careful tactics did much to save Rome from Destruction
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Ultimately, this scene is just pure fiction. Hannibal was not in Carthage at the time when the Roman delegation was sent there and official declaration of war was made at the hall of the elders. Hannibal was already thousands of miles away in Iberia preparing his army for the long march. So, very nice video, but it purely fictional.
andy897221 yes it did they talked shit about Carthage in front of there faces then one of Carthaginians said you Rome you choose peace or war and he said I choose war
No. This scene is based on historical fact. The roman general is Tarentus Varro. Varro was sent to Carthage Nova to threaten Hannibal, in the hopes of protecting the roman allied town of saguntum.
They spoke like that because roman diplomats were the embodiment of the state itself so for them to bow would also mean that rome itself bowed aswell which to the romans such a outcome was absurd.
This was honestly somewhat accurate. Roman diplomats were notoriously snobbish/arrogant when talking with anyone they deemed "barbarians" Which was everyone that wasn't them.
Hannibal is one of those historical figures that even though he lost in the end, it feels like he won based on the sheer amount of damage he inflicted and impressive feats and victories he pulled off. I mean, ask your average ancient history enjoyer, and he has likely heard more of Hannibal and less so of the Scipios. When you say Punic Wars, for most, it will likely conjure images of Hannibal himself, or his crossing of the Alps, or his victory of Cannae.
According to many Roman writers Hannibal Barca was the greatest enemy of Rome. Even many years after his demise, mothers would warn their naughty childeren with the words: "Hannibal ante portas!" ("Hannibal before the gates").
Anyone else get annoyed after he wouldn't use the full names of the Roman generals? Also his humor was childish asf compared with the older vids. The jokes did NOT land
Naaa I like the other one where the Roman Senators are trying to figure out where Hannibal is, and they the Senator who says to protect the Alp passes!! 🤌🤌 Legendary
@@MiddleEast-4Ever For some reason this reminds me of an old story of Hannibal and Scipio encountering each other while the former worked as a mercenary in a nation fighting against Rome. During a negotiation, they met together in front of a mosaic of Alexander. They began talking and started discussing who they thought was the greatest general who ever lived. They both agreed on Alexander, so the next thing they talked about was who they considered second best. Hannibal, thinking he'd be called the second, asked Scipio what he thought, and was annoyed when Scipio said someone else. He then asked who Scipio thought was the third greatest general. Scipio's answer: "myself" Hannibal, exasperated, asked what Scipio would have thought had he managed to capture or kill the Carthaginian. "In that case," Scipio replied, "I would have thought myself above Alexander."
How sad that Hannibal killed himself using poison. Knowing that he had been betrayed and was unable to escape, Hannibal poisoned himself in a final act of defiance against the Romans.
Carthago was a barbaric fishing village. Until the Romans burned it down. Then Julius Caesar the Great re-founded it. And under Augustus the project was completed. It was then civilized under the name Colonia Iulia Concordia Carthago.
1 no hanibal there, he was to my knowledge in common day spain (iberia) 2 the roman delegate whos kname escapes me, was for what we know wearing a toga, he stated that from the folds of his toga he could both drop peace or war, and that it was the cartheginians who could decide, the cartheginians refused rome's terms to which the delegate would have answered then you'l have war (these terms have to do with carthage not being alowed to go to war without rome's permission, which they broke when fighting an incursing numibian army (rome must have loved being able to put carthage before the impossability of living up to the terms of the last peace, as romans would have had an intense hate for carthage as their rival) roman delegats were known to be rude and high up there though, refusing to bow to the kings and leaders of the land, as they were seen as the will of rome, and as such they were to represent the might of rome, and rome does not bow for foreign leaders,
Two traits that made Rome absolutely unstoppable for centuries. 1. The ability to integrate enemy tactics and weapons then make improvements. 2. An unrelenting drive to soldier on and continue the fight no matter how many losses and defeats Rome has suffered. There’s an account of Pyrrhus being alarmed at how quickly Rome reorganized and replenished losses after their defeat at Herculaneum.
They did, but itt was the carthaginians who asked the Roman diplomat, do you choose peace or war. The Roman replied: "I choose war" The Carthaginians were already expecting it, Carthage had gave Rome Casus Belli(reason for war) by attacking their allies in Iberia.
and that was the diplomatic actions between hannibal and cato.....before the romans burned the city.....even after the carthagians expelled hannibal.....well for cato, who wanted to see a destroyed carthago
I choose war!!!! Hannibal was able to eat Rome, but he wanted rome surrender, for put civilians from the city in safety, cause he judged the war was only between rome and him... that was his mistake....
He did kick their ass alot but in the end didn't manage to capitulate them and Scipio Africanus managed to get the numidians who made the bulk of Hannibals calvary on their side and managed to defeat him
Please! Help me! I won this campaign with Rome, Syracuse and the Lusitanians, but I can't against Carthage. What do you recommend: should I invade Italy as soon as possible like Hannibal did? Should I invade Sicily and take Italy from the south? Or should I establish myself first in Iberia and Africa?
I can see from the very graphic comments about Cathage vs Rome but my generous debaters let me ask you what if Carthage and Rome united and put there differences aside and united to control not the Mediterranean but the world what are you responses then both Hannibal and Scipio in a alliance? call me arrogant but before that Imagine none the less
@Corviknight Yes, he's mythical. There's a lot of dispute over the authorship of the book. It's a bit fallacious to just see his name on the book and take that as complete justification of his existence, who Sun Tsu actually was and what he did aren't clear, he's a legendary figure
No its just a Roman delegate. Scipio would have only been a teenager at this point. Scipio however was present at many of the Roman defeats at the hands of Hannibal, he was still only a teenager though.
He doesnt look greek,looks rather historically accurate,the berbers were fair skinned folks and so were the phoenicians.the mix would have roughly given something similar to that,perhaps slightly more tanned.
@@jarogniewtheconqueror2804 we are talking about it now when carthage lost the war . imagine if the won , they would pretty much be at the position rome is right now.
Same, i wished that he had a better ending. Also whenever i read about the third punic war and the raze of carthage i get depressed, even though the roman republic is my favourite state from antiquity
Def based the Roman talking off of Craig Parker's character Glaber from Spartacus Blood and Sand. Also they totally based their Augustus off of the HBO Octavian. I see what you did CA, don't try to deny it lol. You loved those shows I can see.
So this is the politician I sent on a diplomatic mission to Carthage to improve relations....? No wonder they killed him.
Considering how crudely and arrogantly Republic conducted its diplomacy, I'd say it's historically accurate;)
@@Saeronor ye but it worked out for them
He was a proud Roman, I'll give him that.
Roman Senator and Dictator Quintus Fabius Maximus did exactly this when declaring war on the floor of THE CARTHAGINIAN SENATE. Absolute madman.
Roman diplomats actually had a reputation for being extremely rude and brash, the reason was because Roman diplomats believed that they were the embodiment of Rome when conducting work, so to bow to a foreign monarch would be like if Rome itself bowed before this monarch, and because of that Roman diplomats would often act incredibly rude because they believed they were the state when conducting business
Hannibal was chill but Fabius just kept talking shit.
Chill bro chill
Yo don't mess with my boy Fabius
Fabius was like the penultimate master of keeping cool.
@@nicobruin8618 so then, who was the ultimate master of keeping cool?
@@mutantmacrophage6653 people who can not break down crying when hearing of the Fall of Constantinople
To be fair, the one thing this company does very well is trailers, that " I choose war..." gave me goosebumps
OK Bournemouth.
Bal hammun be praised
Emphasis on the "one"
and then when they were getting defeated they asked peace.... and Rome was like "bro... you wanted war, you are getting it"
@@italianduded1161 yeah but honestly third punic war was undeserved and exceeding
Powerful words, "last time your fathers were buried in the fields of Sicily"
Texas Viking haha in reality it was the other way round, it was the Romans decisive victory at sea which made Carthage sue for peace
@@nicolasburton9544 there were land battles too
@@picollojr9009 not deciding the war, historicans call it a trench war without trenches, because sicily is a natural thick trench. the victory at sea was after two victorious battles of the cartagish navy, who was more experienced. one battle was in a storm, dramatic fighting scene. the romans had no quality seaforce, but they simply pushed new navies against the enemy until they got the idea to build these brightes on boats and beat the greek style-warships of the cartagish faction. the lose of the veteran carthagish navy was a shock for cartagish nobility, so they droped out of war and lost sardinia etc. they had problems in lybia and didnt wanted to pay the mercs, so they had a possible merc revolt a destroyed navy, who couldnt protect their sea trade and rebelish cities in africa....of course they asked for peace at that time.
at the time of this trailer they conquered lydia for themself and controlled them directly, had a strong allied king on the massayer throne and hannibals family expanded their teritority in spain, while rome conqueren northitalian and illyrian areas. both sides got stronger, more flexible, convident etc.
we have different sources about the geographic situation of a treaty made by rome and carthago about the expansion of carthagish actions in spain, to protect marseille and their colonies in northern spain. most carthagish non-barka families disliked barkas family like the romans. many carthagish nobles didnt wanted an open conflict with rome. the roman talked about turia, the carthagish side about ebro, the carthagish side claimed, both sides didnt really knew about the geographics of spain, this is a foreign province, who cares, so many historians claim, that the roman knew, that the city of sagunt was a "friend" of rome and thereby a good reason to attack carthago to stop their spanish expansion and fighting in spain over ressources, maybe making some sea wars against their ships once again getting more allies by destroying the carthagish fleet, thereby making their navy the only accecable patron. But in an case of a broken treaty (ebro-treaty) the romans had to send a diplomatic group to carthago....a hostile city.....to declear war.....with a shady reason......yea.
the best historian to talk about these times, because he actual lived in these times and was in dirrect familiar contact with these people was Quintus FABIUS Pictor, but we know, that he hide the identity of some romans, who didnt wanted to be named in bad moments...like this delegation to basicly declare war to hanibal and than loose to hanibal a lot of times. And Pictor was called and argued himself to be strictly PRO-ROMAN. later historians claimed, that the delegation was lead by a FABIUS, but we are not sure, if it was THE Fabius, Quintus FABIUS Maximus Verrucosus, or someone else. There are a lot of Fabius out there until Cannae. In this battle the Fabish family lost 300 members. i suspect it was one of these members.
Quintus FABIUS Maximus Verrucosus, who is portrayed in this trailer, was in reality by all sources a stoic rational speaker and a hardliner of the aristocratic faction, so a conservative noble traditionalist, was praised by cartagish nobles to basicly say to the carthagish nobles, make peace and back down compleatly, or we will declear war, the barka faction, who were the actual mainly privat owner of the spanish forces, said NO, so the romans decleared in that moment without a break or fancy talking the declearation of war, while being in this now offical enemy city in front of the famously roman-hating barkas and outraged carthagish nobles. not like this. this is drama made up by Livius. Fabius was a rationalist. he knew, that the death of the delegation by hannibals faction would destroy every legal reasoning for carthagish involvment in spain and that carthagish traditions granted his safety as diplomat. He didnt saw carthagish nobles as a barbarian culture. his war tactic could have defeated hannibal without a battle in italy. he argued against such a battle like Cannae and was the main reason rome didnt collapsed in their war effords after this big defeat. he wouldnt insult cartago, he would praise the carthagish nobles to be so wise not to support an idiotic war over a spanish nonroman, non carthagish city like a puppet of the barkas. its more likly, that hannibal wouldnt take a sword against a diplomat, he would try to stop the talks as fast as possible, thereby showing the truth, that rome have allready decided to go to war and this delegation was simply traditional show of roman legality for war.
I chose war
@@apollomars1678 The Roman speaker is probably not meant to be Fabius. The whole scene is just a fiction with fictitious characters. In writing, it was Fabius who declared war: "...Then the Roman... said "We bring you here both war and peace; choose which you will!” When he had said these words, [the Carthaginian embassy] cried out with no less truculence that [Fabius] might give them whichever [14] he liked; and on his shaking out the fold again, and announcing that he gave them war, they all replied that they accepted it..." (Liv.21 18 13-14).
Awesome voicing and speech...I would definitely chose war after that "we buried your fathers" and "you should greet the dirt with open hands" and also the "fishing village"...really nice insults very nice
No shit they're greeting the dirt with open arms, they're getting free berries. :P
I think you meant buried dude. XD
+Supermegawaffle this guy has to be the most SHIT negotiator to ever live
Nico Sepeda yup. XD
+Supermegawaffle he had 1 job, go the Cathargo and negotiate peace with the Carthaginians, what does he do? Pisses them off to war
+Nico Sepeda bruh....you know that South Europeans are hot blooded right? well....there you go hahah
"Over the alps? I suppose he will bring an army of elephants hahaha"
Hannibal: I'm about to end this mans whole career
Half of his army died of the cold and only one elephant survived. You can better change your sentence to; Hannibal: Im about to end my career.
@@leachimy24 he also won 3 major victories in Italy and even defeated the “largest army Rome had ever assembled”.
@@WitcherGerd But he still lost almost all of his elephants which was the original comment about. And what would have happened when he went around the Alps, saving his whole army and his elephants?
@@leachimy24 the alps cover the entirety of the italian border, no way he can go around
@@leachimy24 He also didn't conquer rome's settlement..
“Hannibal, you know how to gain a victory, but not how to use one.”
Actually , this is not true
@Ved Singh he could've went to Rome and besieged it after the Battle of Cannae. He didn't do and wasted time while enabled the Romans to regroup.
@@monjikhechini9724 he could've went to Rome and besieged it after the Battle of Cannae. He didn't do and wasted time while enabled the Romans to regroup
@Ved Singh Yeah it could be. But I'm saying that that could've been a possible outcome. The Roans were really really depleted in Italy by then and morale was at precarious levels. Maybe Hannibal didn't have enough forces. Maybe he couldn't hold on until Scipio arrived. But what I'm saying is that if he took Rome, the Capital of the entire Empire, they would have no option but to sue for peace. They could've atleast signed a peace agreement in Cathage's favour, effectively changing the course of history. More allies would join Cathage's side. Rome would be left friendless and would end up getting invaded on multiple fronts if they didn't stop the hostilities.
@Ved Singh its true
"That would be a great feat... even for the great, Hannibal Barca."
quite a feat*
Imagine if Carthage won this conflict , the world would be a very different place .
Probably
It's kind of like the American civil war, Rome had the unlimited industrial power and could send countless armies at Carthage while Carthage had one of the best generals in history.
@@Oliver_hall07 some of the best generals in history including Hannibal's father hamilcar barca and brothers were decent generals
A better place
@@Oliver_hall07 only that Carthage did have an amazing general while the confederation did not
The Punic Wars is one of the greatest wars in human history and the fact that HBO hasn’t made a series on it is just sad. I’d have to start with black screen before we hear “Hannibal my son” and then cut to Hannibal looking over the slaughter at Cannae under a grey sky with the sun shining through, with erect posture and lion fur cape waving in the breeze while the oath continues, and when it ends it cuts to black where we get some 20 or 30 years earlier message pop up. The fact that it hasn’t been made is in and of itself a cardinal sin that if you look hard enough I can assure you is in the original bible itself.
“If doth shalt not make a kickass multi season show about the Punic Wars, doth shalt rain hellfire upon thy earth”
Seriously it’s got everything, great battles, blood oaths, drama, incredibly perilous feats, monsters, rich characters etc. You name it, it fucking has it!
It’s literally a loss we don’t have much historical tv shows I would like a show about Hannibal and pyrrhus of epirus
@@anasbelmont8945 A show about Pyrrhus Of Epirus would be awesome, he’s one of my favourite historical characters.
War is never great.
But through the lease of time it can certainly look entertaining.
Highly agree with you Hannibal, Pyrrhus, and more of untold great stories should be made into tv series. Guess what Roman Supremacy after 2000 years😅
Why? The guy is notable for his heavy cost victory. He also didn't knew when to concentrate in one campaign but went at all at once.
hannibal was in spain when this happened, and Fabius the man in the council of elders threatened them all with peace or war, they said "let rome decide" and he picked war
Clearly 40% more funding went to marketing. Those guys are doing superb job comparing to their buddies in other departments like AI devs and such.
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Nope 40 percent more didn't go to funding , rather these marketers are really good.
@@natalkumar6132 well then they ry dont have a gkod defence on ehy they failed so miserably.
Idk, AI guys seemed to have a hand in how well that diplomat worked.
I love how Roman diplomats were always so arrogant. Its a trend in historic writing for them to be represented as such so we can assume they really were. Probably because they had Imperium just like a Consul or a Praetor and as such were in themselves an embodiement of the Roman State . Would Rome bow to anyone ?
Basileos kai Autokrator ton Romaion They did to parthians pretty quick xs
This was the time of the Republic. Caesar wasn't born yet, so no Imperium. But Rome wouldn't have bowed to anyone, it never really surrendered, which is why it had been sacked so many times.
Striding Dream They leave the Armenian Empire when they lost in Asia to Parthians. They really bowed to Asians pretty quick.
They sure fucking bowed down to the Huns.
Striding Dream Imperium is a concept, one of the forms of power someone could have (like potestas and autorictas). An Imperator is someone who has command authority. It did not mean emperor in the modern sense.
The title which made someone emperor in Rome was Augustus and not Imperator.
Elephants, getting hit in the face by arrows, makes me sad. :(
Atleast you can take comfort that the days of using elephants for war are over.
@@M0rshu64 nah fam war elephants are op
Then you'll be pleased to know most of the elephants died of cold crossing the Alps. Only one of Hannibal's battles in Italy had used elephants.
@_FanZe_ fam thats cus the ai uses them, even if you doin pvp you just need to use em' good and u can fuck up half the enemy army
It is very sad, don’t look up tyke the elephant
Just replayed total war 3 kingdoms again, and I decided to come back to what started it all for me... total war rome 2. This game will always have a special place in my heart and it will always be a game I will come back too for memories of the game that sparked my love for this franchise, and this is the trailer that made me want to buy the game. Amazing trailer, amazing game, amazing franchise
For me, it was shogun 2. But i started to get whatever after that and empires(since empire and napoleon has battle like shogun:fots)
Been a fan since Rome 1, it was a great franchaise until recently.
I love the way the character of hannibal is saying so much with just expressions. Kudos to the animators or actors if they used any
Let's be honest - "barbaric fishing villige" is one of the most epic roman flex I've ever heard :D
especially when he says "you and your mercenaries" as well
@@Chuck12312 xd
I cant imagine what would Rome achieve if they had Hannibal as a general in their ranks.
You cant have Scipio and Hannibal in the same team its not fair for the rest
Hannibal would dominate and people like Scipio would just learn from him, just like what he did in the lead up to the Battle of Zama
He wouldn't need Rome. He would decimate Rome to the ground easily. The Roman Evil White Supremacy is corrupt. What makes you say that fool!😅
He could be The True Roman Conqueror.
I feel like I am watching Glaber from Spartacus having a debate with Hannibal.
Glaber was a worthless nobody who got owned Fabius Maximus was a Legend a 3 time consul 2 time Dictator and Censor whose Careful tactics did much to save Rome from Destruction
yeah same personality and very similar voices. When i first watched this i was sure it was the same actor.
Quote from the creative assembly page: "In addition to this, another significant free content update for ROME II will also drop soon, benefitting all players regardless of whether they own any DLC."
Still watching 6 years later. Can't stop watching it
Ultimately, this scene is just pure fiction. Hannibal was not in Carthage at the time when the Roman delegation was sent there and official declaration of war was made at the hall of the elders. Hannibal was already thousands of miles away in Iberia preparing his army for the long march. So, very nice video, but it purely fictional.
and Rome didn't threaten Carthage either
andy897221 yes it did they talked shit about Carthage in front of there faces then one of Carthaginians said you Rome you choose peace or war and he said I choose war
We're talking historically.
Max Power that isn't a movie,..
No. This scene is based on historical fact.
The roman general is Tarentus Varro. Varro was sent to Carthage Nova to threaten Hannibal, in the hopes of protecting the roman allied town of saguntum.
the Roman has some sick punchlines.
if Roman diplomats talked like that to there vassals no wonder everywhere Rome went 2 more enemies arose in defiance of Rome.
And prob because they were conquerors
They spoke like that because roman diplomats were the embodiment of the state itself so for them to bow would also mean that rome itself bowed aswell which to the romans such a outcome was absurd.
This was honestly somewhat accurate. Roman diplomats were notoriously snobbish/arrogant when talking with anyone they deemed "barbarians"
Which was everyone that wasn't them.
Hannibal is one of those historical figures that even though he lost in the end, it feels like he won based on the sheer amount of damage he inflicted and impressive feats and victories he pulled off. I mean, ask your average ancient history enjoyer, and he has likely heard more of Hannibal and less so of the Scipios. When you say Punic Wars, for most, it will likely conjure images of Hannibal himself, or his crossing of the Alps, or his victory of Cannae.
What the romans didn't know is that, with Hannibal, peace was never an option
We need a trailer of that guy who spoke out at 0:52. Must have been some badass soldier to have the guts to interupt the speech
finally a campaign focusing on Hannibal, I am so ready for this
Epic trailer, epic campaign, enjoyed it much. Yet never played as Carthage, not even in main campaign. Can't be the only one xD
can be very difficult :D
i dont play carthage because the unit roster is strange.
you must know how to use them. Hannibal style :D @@kaisermoneybags4450
more like
baby killer style amirite lmaoooo
@@kaisermoneybags4450 LMAO
Greatest enemy of Rome.
Phyrrus ? Mithridates VI ? Attila ?
@@bartomiejzakrzewski7220 still better mate but thanks for showing who's 2nd 3rd and 4th i appreciate that
@@bartomiejzakrzewski7220 you can't compare them to Hannibal. Hannibal won most battles with minimal losses and less soldiers.
attila the hun
According to many Roman writers Hannibal Barca was the greatest enemy of Rome.
Even many years after his demise, mothers would warn their naughty childeren with the words: "Hannibal ante portas!" ("Hannibal before the gates").
Seen this like twenty times today already... but it's still a cool trailer :D
did anyone watched the new oversimplified video
Yeah and another one has came out
Anyone else here after Oversimplified’s video?
Anyone else get annoyed after he wouldn't use the full names of the Roman generals?
Also his humor was childish asf compared with the older vids.
The jokes did NOT land
@@lollius88🤓
@@superiorshotgun4348 bro we didnt ask for a face reveal
@@lollius88 good thing I didn’t give one
@@superiorshotgun4348 weak response.
You did
"Fishing village"was the last straw
“As if you truly have a choice!”
Chills
hannbal sure killed many romans
but one thing you dont know about romans
they dont give up
Si vis pacem, para bellum (if you want peace, prepare for war)
When Rome thinks they're the shit, but you took an oath so they don't fuck with you.
As someone whos grandpa was a roman senator, i can say this is historically accurate
best video game trailer ever, even better than the Wraith of the Lich King Trailer. Great Job Creative Assembley. Carthago Delende Est!
Naaa I like the other one where the Roman Senators are trying to figure out where Hannibal is, and they the Senator who says to protect the Alp passes!! 🤌🤌 Legendary
hannibal my thun
😂😂😂😂😂😂
ca is still good at marketing and advertising if nothing else
He humiliated the romans in every battle.
In yet, in the end, Rome prevailed.
Thats is because everyone loses even the best lose sometimes! and the last battle was only battle rome won.
@@MiddleEast-4Ever For some reason this reminds me of an old story of Hannibal and Scipio encountering each other while the former worked as a mercenary in a nation fighting against Rome. During a negotiation, they met together in front of a mosaic of Alexander.
They began talking and started discussing who they thought was the greatest general who ever lived. They both agreed on Alexander, so the next thing they talked about was who they considered second best.
Hannibal, thinking he'd be called the second, asked Scipio what he thought, and was annoyed when Scipio said someone else. He then asked who Scipio thought was the third greatest general.
Scipio's answer: "myself"
Hannibal, exasperated, asked what Scipio would have thought had he managed to capture or kill the Carthaginian.
"In that case," Scipio replied, "I would have thought myself above Alexander."
@@morgant.dulaman8733 You mixed up Hannibal and Scipio's statements.
@@ariyune7007 Huh. Oops.
This DLC was epic! Really enjoyed it!
Soldier as a politician now that gets my vote
lol this is the best trailer ever
Hannibal was like: . Im really sick and tired of these asswipes. Hold my sword. I have a risky mountain crossing to plan.
Is it just me or does the roman dude sound exactly like cladius glabber from spartacus?
1112viggo same Lmao
1112viggo yup
How sad that Hannibal killed himself using poison. Knowing that he had been betrayed and was unable to escape, Hannibal poisoned himself in a final act of defiance against the Romans.
By the way, The opening speech is probably being delivered be Hannibar Barca, Hannibal’s father, who fought the Romans in the First Punic War
“Those, that didn’t greet the dirt with OPEN ARMS, we sent to serve Neptune in the waters of the Agates.” …….😮
Very ironic considering the Roman sank its own fleet twice.
Vive Quart Hadasht 🇹🇳❤️💪🌙
Calling Carthage barbaric fishing Village? :) He must be mad.
The funny think Qart Hadasht was a more civilized civilisation then rome
Carthago was a barbaric fishing village. Until the Romans burned it down. Then Julius Caesar the Great re-founded it. And under Augustus the project was completed. It was then civilized under the name Colonia Iulia Concordia Carthago.
1 no hanibal there, he was to my knowledge in common day spain (iberia)
2 the roman delegate whos kname escapes me, was for what we know wearing a toga, he stated that from the folds of his toga he could both drop peace or war, and that it was the cartheginians who could decide, the cartheginians refused rome's terms to which the delegate would have answered then you'l have war
(these terms have to do with carthage not being alowed to go to war without rome's permission, which they broke when fighting an incursing numibian army (rome must have loved being able to put carthage before the impossability of living up to the terms of the last peace, as romans would have had an intense hate for carthage as their rival)
roman delegats were known to be rude and high up there though, refusing to bow to the kings and leaders of the land, as they were seen as the will of rome, and as such they were to represent the might of rome, and rome does not bow for foreign leaders,
Quintus Fulvius Flaccus
is this game fixed yet?
Yes
After 4 years you get a reply. Wow.
With mods
@alvi syahri No, I don't think so but it's got 100% no bugs now. You should also try out a mod called divide et impera
Two traits that made Rome absolutely unstoppable for centuries. 1. The ability to integrate enemy tactics and weapons then make improvements. 2. An unrelenting drive to soldier on and continue the fight no matter how many losses and defeats Rome has suffered. There’s an account of Pyrrhus being alarmed at how quickly Rome reorganized and replenished losses after their defeat at Herculaneum.
Love you my Tunisia ❤🇹🇳❤️🇵🇸❤️
I still play rome total war 1 almost 1once every 2 days.
Never played all the others
someone should make a meme called condescending roman
This would be a great movie
Hannibal ante Portas...
Just curious did I feel like this is just for the trailer but did Rome send a diplomat to Carthage like how it's shown in the trailer?
They did, but itt was the carthaginians who asked the Roman diplomat, do you choose peace or war.
The Roman replied: "I choose war"
The Carthaginians were already expecting it, Carthage had gave Rome Casus Belli(reason for war) by attacking their allies in Iberia.
@@alexmag342 Also Hannibal was in Iberia at this point, so he never even met with the Roman “diplomat”.
"This is madness!"
Hannibal:Madness? This is carthrage! *kick
Would be cool if we they release more kinds of units.
and that was the diplomatic actions between hannibal and cato.....before the romans burned the city.....even after the carthagians expelled hannibal.....well for cato, who wanted to see a destroyed carthago
Great way of negotiating
I choose war!!!!
Hannibal was able to eat Rome, but he wanted rome surrender, for put civilians from the city in safety, cause he judged the war was only between rome and him... that was his mistake....
I take it English it not your first language?
@@legioxciicorvus5917 No no no mate it isn't my language....but... didn,t it was noot clear? wata say? hum?
I am at the gate now
39 Romans are still bitter over Cannae.
The least diplomatic meeting possible...
'I choose war' won 1 our of the 3 punic wars
Rome won all of the Punic Wars.
Daan Vergouwe yeah they lost all the Punic wars Hannibal lost at Zama by the hands of scipio afrocanus
He did kick their ass alot but in the end didn't manage to capitulate them and Scipio Africanus managed to get the numidians who made the bulk of Hannibals calvary on their side and managed to defeat him
Rome won the 3 punic wars
Actually rome won in all of them
im glad im tunisian
+mohamed deutschland im glad im latin
Haha, Tunisians have nothing to do with Carthagenians (Phenicians) Rome unfortanetly exterminanted them and pore salt on city's ruins.. Best wishes!!
ok
+Altair Dokara You proved your argument gailef when you started taling about pouring salt.
im sorry but last time i heard pouring salt on villages was standard practice in ancient war
Masterpiece 10/10.
Please! Help me! I won this campaign with Rome, Syracuse and the Lusitanians, but I can't against Carthage.
What do you recommend: should I invade Italy as soon as possible like Hannibal did? Should I invade Sicily and take Italy from the south? Or should I establish myself first in Iberia and Africa?
Establish yourself
I CHOOSE WAR!!!!!!!!
Is it just me, or did they try to make the Roman look and sound like Legatus Glabber from Spartacus?
I can see from the very graphic comments about Cathage vs Rome but my generous debaters let me ask you what if Carthage and Rome united and put there differences aside and united to control not the Mediterranean but the world what are you responses then both Hannibal and Scipio in a alliance? call me arrogant but before that Imagine none the less
Two men for one crown? No
@@marathamarrak7037 both were Republics at the time
I know, it was an metaphor. Carthage or Rome, only one power can own the western Mediterranean Sea
@@marathamarrak7037 a console is just a democratic term for king crassus pompey Caesar
Fricking awesome
Am I the only one seeing Luciano Pavarotti in the thumbnail?
you are VENGEANCE
That was DEEP!
get em Hannibal!
Only time im for elephants I love Carthage War Elephants and Calvery
after alexander and sun tsu the best general of history B.C.
Amado Dominguez Amaro hmm Frederik the Great
Belisar
Scipio Africanus
Oda nobunaga
Nope. Scipio was much more flexible. He was good but I believe that Scipio was a better leader.
sun tsu is mythical ... Doesn't make sense to include him
How can you not include Caesar
@Corviknight Yes, he's mythical. There's a lot of dispute over the authorship of the book. It's a bit fallacious to just see his name on the book and take that as complete justification of his existence, who Sun Tsu actually was and what he did aren't clear, he's a legendary figure
All dislike are from Carthage
😂
1:30-1:38. Jesus, talk about getting burned.
Is that meant to be Scipio in the trailer?
No its just a Roman delegate. Scipio would have only been a teenager at this point. Scipio however was present at many of the Roman defeats at the hands of Hannibal, he was still only a teenager though.
No because Scipio was an African American.
@@shekelwitzsubvertsteingodc3023 was about to correct you until I saw the name
Lets make Hannibal look like he’s greek even though he was a north African Canaanite
He doesnt look greek,looks rather historically accurate,the berbers were fair skinned folks and so were the phoenicians.the mix would have roughly given something similar to that,perhaps slightly more tanned.
he was not black either way
lordaragorn001 the Canaanites look like the Ancient Egyptians
gazardiel so he looked more like a slav instead huh? And nobody said he was black
Asmoh do you guys even know who the Canaanites are?
If only Hannibal took Rome we would all be Carthageinians today. So sorry for his sacrifice- all he did was in vain. What a BOSS nevertheless
Jo Kah, We wouldn't be speaking Carthage unless they conquered the whole world and lasted for 2000 years +.
If the Athenians and the Spartans hadn't defeated the Persians, there would have been NOTHING of Western civilization
@@jarogniewtheconqueror2804 we are talking about it now when carthage lost the war . imagine if the won , they would pretty much be at the position rome is right now.
I doubt that carthage wasn't that big of a conqueror like rome
Carthago delenda est🦅🌿
This is a good speech
FOR ROME!!!!
Dan Welsby no, FOR CARTHAGE!!!
Lemon Gerard no, FOR ROME!!!
Homerslot No, FOR CARTHAGE!!
Jax no, FOR ROME!!!!
Phoenix_Down NO CARTHAGE
I love Rome and Roman history, but at the same time when it comes to Hannibal I always kinda regret that he didn't succeed to destroy Rome
Same, i wished that he had a better ending.
Also whenever i read about the third punic war and the raze of carthage i get depressed, even though the roman republic is my favourite state from antiquity
Def based the Roman talking off of Craig Parker's character Glaber from Spartacus Blood and Sand. Also they totally based their Augustus off of the HBO Octavian. I see what you did CA, don't try to deny it lol. You loved those shows I can see.
If only Hannibal had won at Zama...
if only he had the full support of his own country.
2019???
2022 babyyy
the game will look nothing like the trailer, just like rome 2
Such a badass.
Thanks may god grant you thesame happiness i feel right now
Nice !