Thanks so much for uploading! I have never dreamed of even thinking about learning this piece. After watching your video, I am now having it on my future attempt. It is such a beautiful piece!
thank you so so much!!!! I finally understood the rhythm and the melody!!!! You really helped me and im really really thankful for your amazing video!! THANK YOU!
@@TommysPianoCorner Thank you very much. I've conquered the travel down to the d flat & back. now piecing correctly the right hand in alternately as written with the left.
The bits I found trickiest are where you have the left hand jumping twice per bar/measure - they are not even as far as the d flat but for some reason seem more difficult. I found it helps to pay attention to the note just before the jump as well as the lower note itself.
@@TommysPianoCorner Just going at it, slowly. thoughtfully, is most relaxing. Today I started on the back end. I may mash it... it's quite a feat to master the entire piece. Just pondering if I should tackle the whe work. it's rather daunting indeed.
Very efficient approach to work this consolation! Although the 9:40 phrase should be played with both hands. The notes which are written below should be played with left hand. It’s written that way!! Thank you
Thanks. I'm glad you find it a helpful approach. If you're referring to the 16th note section towards the end, then yes, absolutely the lower 8th notes should be played by the left hand. I think I chose to demonstrate the right hand only as it is perhaps easier to follow that way. However, with hindsight I think I should have used both hands in that demonstration. Thanks for pointing it out - it will help me with future videos.
This is the video that brought me to your channel. I keep coming back to it. I believe this piece is a bit above my current skill level, but I’m having fun with it following your tips. That’s what matters the most. Thank you. Already subscribed to your channel. I’m devouring other good videos you have here. Thanks for helping the piano community.
Thanks for your kind feedback. I am always looking for ways to practice things and I think as long as we are practising as effectively as we can then it is very rewarding to push ourselves. If there are any topics you’d like to see covered please do let me know and I’ll do my best.
@@TommysPianoCorner Today I’m feeling like I’m not going anywhere with my piano practice. So I’ll dedicate more time reading the books on practice you’ve recommended. But there’s something more. Something related to lack of motivation, desire to quit piano, etc. I know it’s temporary, but it would be interesting if you could make a video talking about how you keep yourself motivated. If this is already covered in other videos let me know. Thank you, Tommy!
That is a good idea thanks. I’m not sure what keeps me motivated would work for everybody but I’m sure we all have days when we don’t feel that ‘in the mood’.
Thank you so very much for this enlightening film. I have been desperately trying to find a good method of approaching this piece. A person very dear to me introduced me to it as a challenge to learn more piano I can defined see why now. I wonder if Franz made this song for that sole purpose. Either way, it's a beautiful piece.
Liszt wrote 3 of them and this is perhaps the most well known of them. I’m so glad that he devoted some of his genius to things that can be played by many more of us. Are you familiar with his Romance? Also quite accessible by Liszt standards ua-cam.com/video/LRtegsse8iI/v-deo.html
You’re very welcome. I have never recorded a tutorial on the entire piece but I do have a couple of videos with ideas of how to practice the trickery parts. I’ll send a response with the links when I’m on my laptop tomorrow. Liebestraum is of course much more difficult than the consolation - especially the third section - but it is gorgeous :-)
@@TommysPianoCorner I thought I’d never in my life play polyrhythms but I played a Chopin Nocturne and decided then I could do anything. This “semester” I played Consolation in D (your tutorial was so helpful!) & again feel like I can take on any piece of music. I started lessons at age 39 knowing only Middle C and not even how to play a scale. I turned 51 last month. My mom quilts. I learn piano pieces. lol
This is a wonderful tutorial. I have a question about the sostenuto in measures such as 8, 10, 20, 24, etc. where the right hand is playing at the same time as the left not that has to be sustained. Is there a way to only sustain the left? (This is my first experience with this pedal.)
Very good question and the sostenuto pedal can be tricky. It is important to consider the interplay between the Sostenuto and the Sustain/Damper pedals. In measure 8, the Pedal (so Damper) is marked and not to be changed until mid way through measure 9. Thus, here, if we follow that marking the sostenuto doesn’t really add anything (as all dampers are anyway raised). Sostenuto would come into play at measure 3 for example (although depending on the edition of the music you have again it might not work with the damper pedal markings). I believe Liszt wrote this piece before Steinway created the Sostenuto pedal and he re-edited it to be able to take advantage of this new invention. Therefore, in the original edition Sostenuto would have little or no effect. To directly answer your question, there is no way using Sostenuto to only sustain the bass note as if two notes are played together and the Sostenuto then depressed, both will sustain independently of the damper pedal changes. However, depending on your piano, partial changes of the damper pedal (so, don’t fully release it on a pedal change) has the effect of sustaining lower notes whilst damping those in the higher resister. I hope that helps.
@@TommysPianoCorner I see what you're saying about measure 8 and others like it. I wouldn't even need the sostenuto for those. In measure 20 (I'm using the Urtext edition), I'd need the sostenuto to hold the bass D flat through to measure 23 (and picking up the treble F at the same time), but I have to change the damper on 21, 22, and 23. In measure 26, I'd need the sostenuto to hold the bass F through measure 29 (and picking up the treble F as well), but I need to change the damper on 27 and 28. Those are the only 2 places that present a problem, though. I will play with it as you suggest and see what works best. Thank you!
Without sostenuto, you can try partial pedaling. When we don’t fully release the pedal, it has the effect of sustaining lower notes whilst clearing the resonance from upper ones. How well this works will depend on your piano so experiment with it to see. However, I wouldn’t worry too much. Apparently Liszt wrote this piece before the sostenuto pedal was invented and so physically holding the note would not have been possible. Interestingly, I did read that he later wrote to Mr Steinway indicating that this ‘new pedal’ could be put to good effect in his Consolation.
Although Consolation No. 3 is one of his “easier” pieces I think it is the most beautiful...
I have always got great pleasure from both playing it and listening to it being played
What a great pedagogical analysis! This helps my teaching. Highly recommend to study with Tommy!
Thanks - I’m delighted you find it helpful.
Thanks so much for uploading! I have never dreamed of even thinking about learning this piece. After watching your video, I am now having it on my future attempt. It is such a beautiful piece!
I agree it is very beautiful. Let me know how you get on with it !!
Muchísimas gracias!!! Muy útil la explicación sobre los pedales!!! Y todo lo demás.
De nada! :-)
thank you so so much!!!! I finally understood the rhythm and the melody!!!! You really helped me and im really really thankful for your amazing video!! THANK YOU!
I’m very glad it helped. It is a lovely piece
Thank you for your valuable advice.
I’m pleased it helped. Good luck with this beautiful piece
Very excellent lesson. I'm working on this now. You have given me inspiration to continue!!! thank you!!
That’s great to hear. I’m sure you’ll have endless hours enjoyment playing this piece! Such a gem
@@TommysPianoCorner Thank you very much. I've conquered the travel down to the d flat & back. now piecing correctly the right hand in alternately as written with the left.
The bits I found trickiest are where you have the left hand jumping twice per bar/measure - they are not even as far as the d flat but for some reason seem more difficult. I found it helps to pay attention to the note just before the jump as well as the lower note itself.
@@TommysPianoCorner Thank you.
@@TommysPianoCorner Just going at it, slowly. thoughtfully, is most relaxing. Today I started on the back end. I may mash it... it's quite a feat to master the entire piece. Just pondering if I should tackle the whe work. it's rather daunting indeed.
Thank you very much for this video. I am just working on this piece and your explanation is very useful.
I’m delighted you find it helpful. It has always been one of my favourite pieces and I play it al least once most weeks ;-)
Very efficient approach to work this consolation! Although the 9:40 phrase should be played with both hands. The notes which are written below should be played with left hand. It’s written that way!! Thank you
Thanks. I'm glad you find it a helpful approach. If you're referring to the 16th note section towards the end, then yes, absolutely the lower 8th notes should be played by the left hand. I think I chose to demonstrate the right hand only as it is perhaps easier to follow that way. However, with hindsight I think I should have used both hands in that demonstration. Thanks for pointing it out - it will help me with future videos.
This is the video that brought me to your channel. I keep coming back to it. I believe this piece is a bit above my current skill level, but I’m having fun with it following your tips. That’s what matters the most. Thank you. Already subscribed to your channel. I’m devouring other good videos you have here. Thanks for helping the piano community.
Thanks for your kind feedback. I am always looking for ways to practice things and I think as long as we are practising as effectively as we can then it is very rewarding to push ourselves. If there are any topics you’d like to see covered please do let me know and I’ll do my best.
@@TommysPianoCorner Today I’m feeling like I’m not going anywhere with my piano practice. So I’ll dedicate more time reading the books on practice you’ve recommended. But there’s something more. Something related to lack of motivation, desire to quit piano, etc. I know it’s temporary, but it would be interesting if you could make a video talking about how you keep yourself motivated. If this is already covered in other videos let me know. Thank you, Tommy!
That is a good idea thanks. I’m not sure what keeps me motivated would work for everybody but I’m sure we all have days when we don’t feel that ‘in the mood’.
I’ve uploaded 3 tips today with what helps me stay motivated. Thanks for the video idea.
This is brilliant. Thank you so much!
Absolutely delighted that you found it helpful!
@@TommysPianoCorner Downloaded. Extremely helpful PDF. Thank you!
@@DaleHubbard Thanks. It can sometimes be a little awkward just to rely on a video so I try to create them when I can.
@@TommysPianoCorner Great for the polyrhythms!
@@DaleHubbard it is certainly a great introduction to them. I think the vast majority of us find them a real brain twister at first :-)
Thank you so very much for this enlightening film. I have been desperately trying to find a good method of approaching this piece. A person very dear to me introduced me to it as a challenge to learn more piano I can defined see why now. I wonder if Franz made this song for that sole purpose. Either way, it's a beautiful piece.
Liszt wrote 3 of them and this is perhaps the most well known of them. I’m so glad that he devoted some of his genius to things that can be played by many more of us. Are you familiar with his Romance? Also quite accessible by Liszt standards ua-cam.com/video/LRtegsse8iI/v-deo.html
Thank you for this! Do you happen to have one for how to learn Lieberstraum? That’s next on my “Liszt”!
You’re very welcome. I have never recorded a tutorial on the entire piece but I do have a couple of videos with ideas of how to practice the trickery parts. I’ll send a response with the links when I’m on my laptop tomorrow. Liebestraum is of course much more difficult than the consolation - especially the third section - but it is gorgeous :-)
@@TommysPianoCorner thank you 😊
@@TommysPianoCorner I thought I’d never in my life play polyrhythms but I played a Chopin Nocturne and decided then I could do anything. This “semester” I played Consolation in D (your tutorial was so helpful!) & again feel like I can take on any piece of music. I started lessons at age 39 knowing only Middle C and not even how to play a scale. I turned 51 last month. My mom quilts. I learn piano pieces. lol
This is a wonderful tutorial. I have a question about the sostenuto in measures such as 8, 10, 20, 24, etc. where the right hand is playing at the same time as the left not that has to be sustained. Is there a way to only sustain the left? (This is my first experience with this pedal.)
Very good question and the sostenuto pedal can be tricky. It is important to consider the interplay between the Sostenuto and the Sustain/Damper pedals. In measure 8, the Pedal (so Damper) is marked and not to be changed until mid way through measure 9. Thus, here, if we follow that marking the sostenuto doesn’t really add anything (as all dampers are anyway raised). Sostenuto would come into play at measure 3 for example (although depending on the edition of the music you have again it might not work with the damper pedal markings). I believe Liszt wrote this piece before Steinway created the Sostenuto pedal and he re-edited it to be able to take advantage of this new invention. Therefore, in the original edition Sostenuto would have little or no effect.
To directly answer your question, there is no way using Sostenuto to only sustain the bass note as if two notes are played together and the Sostenuto then depressed, both will sustain independently of the damper pedal changes. However, depending on your piano, partial changes of the damper pedal (so, don’t fully release it on a pedal change) has the effect of sustaining lower notes whilst damping those in the higher resister.
I hope that helps.
@@TommysPianoCorner I see what you're saying about measure 8 and others like it. I wouldn't even need the sostenuto for those. In measure 20 (I'm using the Urtext edition), I'd need the sostenuto to hold the bass D flat through to measure 23 (and picking up the treble F at the same time), but I have to change the damper on 21, 22, and 23. In measure 26, I'd need the sostenuto to hold the bass F through measure 29 (and picking up the treble F as well), but I need to change the damper on 27 and 28. Those are the only 2 places that present a problem, though. I will play with it as you suggest and see what works best. Thank you!
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Thanks Tommy! What if I don't have a sostenuto pedal? How is it possible to hold the tied LH D flat?
Without sostenuto, you can try partial pedaling. When we don’t fully release the pedal, it has the effect of sustaining lower notes whilst clearing the resonance from upper ones. How well this works will depend on your piano so experiment with it to see.
However, I wouldn’t worry too much. Apparently Liszt wrote this piece before the sostenuto pedal was invented and so physically holding the note would not have been possible. Interestingly, I did read that he later wrote to Mr Steinway indicating that this ‘new pedal’ could be put to good effect in his Consolation.
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