Railfair 1991
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- Опубліковано 27 жов 2010
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Incredible, beautiful photography, really fast moving scenes, and great sound are just a small part of this video.
You will follow the Union Pacific Challenger as well as the U.P.'s Northern as they doublehead through the spectacular mountain scenery to Sacramento, CA.. Then you will enjoy the activities at Railfair '91 as other engines and cars join the celebration.
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Union Pacific 1243 is a 4-6-0 “Ten-Wheeler” built by the Cooke Locomotive and Machine Works in 1890. It pulled trains through out the Union Pacific system. Until being retired in 1956. In 1990, the locomotive was cosmetically restored and 1243 was moved by Union Pacific 844 and Challenger 3985 in 1991 while pulling a special train to RailFair 1991 at the California State Railroad Museum. Today, 1243 is on display at the Durham Western Heritage Museum.
I remember being at Sacramento Rail Fair 1991, watching as 3985 slowly steamed through the grounds... ABSOLUTE HEAVEN for a 6 year old.
844 looking good in that Greyhound livery. Would be great to see her with that livery again.
844 with a greyhound paint job!! This made my day!
Kaiser Gravel Co UP 838 has a greyhound paint which should be good, also UP 3977 to
Aren't they a sight to see giving it their all.
Glad a handful of these fine giants were saved for preservation.
Hat's off to all those people who made it happen.
Keep it coming.👊👍
So nice seeing them without the diesel electric locomotive in tow either.
I know this is a very old video, but what railroader would want to go on strike against 844 and 3985? I would probably been in a whole lot of trouble, because I would want to stay with these two locomotives. My first experience with steam locomotives was the The NYC's version of a Northern, 5 of them on a coal drag through Cleveland, around 1950. I have loved steam every since. 844's whistle gives me chills at times.
I love the greyhound color on the 844.
Me too, I think it was her best paint scheme and I wish she were painted into it again.
I agree the 844 looks good in those colors. The Challengers did too
Beautiful post...thanks GreenFrog. I'm an old train guy...I was a kid in the 50's when the puffers went away but I got to see the good ones.
I want to see 844 painted back in her greyhound scheme!
I was four years old when this was made. The only locomotives I knew of back then had faces on them and were narrated by George Carlin.
Beautiful! I wish I was there! UP said that some day they will triple head 844, 3985, and 4014. It might not be until 2025 but it has a very high likely hood of happening.
Streamlined Steamroller Awesome
someday.
Hopefully at 2019 they make it happen :-)
Peter Ronney wow!! Really?? Never knew! The bigest, best, and strongest in the league.
once 4014 is operational, 3985 is next to go in for work. Gonna take longer than 2019.
Amazing articulation right here - 6:45
@6:22 - to 7:14 is Salt Lake City, Utah. (If you didn't notice the station in the background at the beginning and the state capital at the end)
The next video clip shows UP 3985 heading north pass the old intermodal yards. (Now owned by UTA). You can see the yard sign "BECKS" to the right.
The next clip @8:02 is in Layton, Utah. @8:06 the large white building to the right is Smith's Distribution Center.
8:23 louder than a 1000+ hp Nissan GTR😊😊
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Because 7000 horsepower!
I bet you were 12 when you commented this..
@@JQNAH *car kid spotted*
Note that the 844 class had a top speed of 110mph. During the hey days in the Eastern US, passenger trains were routinely run at 105mph on the Water Level Route. Most likely pulled by Hudson's, Pennsy K4's and later the Berkshires, the most efficient steam engines ever built.
Excuse me? Berkshire at 105mph? No frickin way, the fastest berks could barely do 85mph, and those have all been scrapped. All the surviving berks are van swearingen berks only capable of 75mph at max
Two beautiful steam locomotives.
Yeah. So is Union Pacific 1243 on that flat car too.
Beautiful post, 3985 and 5511 will be back!
I really love that intro music
Wow... #844 was only 58 years old. You can tell this was a *cold* Day!
Almost a preview of what’s going to happen in May 2019.
great footage
this is a great video man I could watch this all day
I wish I was alive for this
I didn´t know 844 was repainted. Excellent video.
The 3985 doing the solo part was actually a August 1991 run . 3 months after Railfair 91 .
Union Pacific 4-8-4 844 and 4-6-6-4 Challenger 3985 travels to Railfair '91 at the California State Railroad Museum in Sacramento, California 🚂🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃
Thank you for the summary! I'm too stupid to read the damn title of the video!
Thanks for UP Steam Program.
Along with Union Pacific 1243 being moved to the Durham Western Heritage Museum.
That was awesome!
Waw, nice video. Greeting from Indonesua.
Up 4014 and 844 should do a double header with a frieght train as a heritage frieght train and they should put a locomotive on one of the cars that would be super cool
Nice !!
Superb video of steam power.
Nice video and well done! The only fault I have with it is that it was too short!
Best of all - it’s an *ALCO!* (complete with SOOT!)
There were 45 engines in the 800's class. Eight-hundred to eight-forty-four. Good footage but quite a few mistakes in the narraration.
Very cool to see :) However, I must say that I prefer 844 in the current black paint scheme ;)
Up 844 Greyhound & up 3985 challenger
813 likes, 813 is a FEF-1 locomotive
A train pulling a train pulling a train, nice
Up 844 & 3985 going to railfair 91
No diesel in consist, how they manage dynamic brake?
i have this on vhs
What happened to the small locomotive on the flatcar?
It's still on the flat car
The locomotive is Union Pacific 1243.
@@jameshall3371 No. It was only on that flat car until after this event is done. It’s now on display at the Durham Museum in Omaha, Nebraska.
The music composed by ??
0:48 Los Angeles lol
Don't you know, the whole of California is Los Angeles? LOL
Great video but please consider putting "locations" on the video. ☺✌Ty.
Can we count this as a triple header?
1:45 why does 3985's builder's plate read "June 1943" instead of "July 1943"?
Does anyone know when the 3985 is coming back into service? Before or after 4014's restoration?
After
o.k.
It was just in service
UP 3985 has officially been retired, according to a Facebook posting from Ed Dickens on the Official UP Steam Club Facebook page.
I was at sac town for railfair and rode 4449 3985 844 4014 and wished it was every year
844 has to be painted back in the greyhound scheme
No
What paint is the 8444 in
ULTRA_SD70ace productions Productions - The "greyhound" paint scheme
3:57 what's that whistle because I like it
good to know :P
Hancock 3 chime long Bell whistle
No diesel assistance, see they actually TRUSTED these things back then, now they couldn't imagine going without at least one Diesel engine.
It’s for braking power, not because they didn’t trust it. It uses the Diesel engines dynamic braking since steam engines don’t.
@@thegreene4106 Diesels are also to help with liability and insurance, as well as provide power to the coaches if something were to go wrong mid-journey.
Why Is that little steam engine on a Union Pacific flat car
That’s Union Pacific 1243. It was going to be moved to the Durham Museum in Omaha, Nebraska, that’s why it’s on that flat car.
dit wil my voorkom die ou stoom reuse gebruik rou olie of iets sien nie steenkool nie nie temin is dit wonderlik om die ou stoom reuse te sien
I think the locomotive on the flatbed was union pacific 4466
No. It’s actually Union Pacific 1243.
What was the smaller engine they were both pulling? no 618 it looks like?
Union Pacific 1243 it a 4-6-0
@@zacharywoirhaye7415 Thank you!
exiarules it's currently at the Durham Museum here in Omaha
How long was 844 painted like that?
Adam Riffe 844 was in that two tone grey scheme from 1987 to 1991. After it's rebuild in 1995, it was painted in black.
And to think 4014 at this time was waiting, patiently dormant for another 28 years before she got to finally stretch her legs with 844
Are you old enuff to smok
Can I ask something?
What?
What kind of steam engine was being Towed by using Union Pacific 844 and 3985 they shouldn't have used big boy 4005
Union Pacific 1243. It's a 4-6-0.
844 looks to be burning much more cleanly than the Challenger?
There may be a chance that the fireman on 3985 that day wasn't as experienced, therefore he added too much oil to the fire.
NEAFarmKid , yeah could be, I've no idea how an oil burner is set up or operated. Bet it doesn't smell as nice coal though. We don't have any oil burners in the UK. These are two beauties. PS I take it the tanks are for extra water not oil ?
nigel mitchell Yeah, I'd rather run an oil burner because it'd be easier on the fireman and you could travel all the way across the state's, but I agree coal would probably give you that steam engine smell more so than oil
I thought 3985 was coal not fuel
Oscar Tobar It was converted in 1990 due to high fire danger from hot coals getting shot out of the stack
What was that mogul on that train car doing, and does it operate today?
THE TIME IS MEOW! It’s a ten wheeler, and it was cosmetically restored for traveling to this event but not operational. Its one of the oldest surviving UP engines and was still owned by UP at this time. It’s on indoor display now, and no longer owned by UP.
Yeah. It’s a 4-6-0 “Ten-Wheeler”. Union Pacific 1243.
04:23
What the hell why is the little steam engine on a flatbed
Don’t ask that way, please.
What is that nasty tinkling noise? It comes and goes for no apparent reason. Was it not spotted during editing? How could you miss it?
@PereMarquette1223 Union Pacific 4-6-0 1243.
Can a steam engineer easily transition to a locomotive engineer and vice versa?
there is much more to a steam engine than a diesel. One would need to know or maybe have a degree in thermal engineering so far as I know. I heard on one of these shows once that when the railroads were transitioning to diesel there was a lot of animosity from the steam engineers loosing there jobs to the diesel. Thats one mans spin on it anyway.
a steam locomotive was manually controlled by a plethora of valves and levers with mechanical gauges
a diesel is basically controlled by a throttle, reverser, a train brake and an independent brake with electric gauges
modern diesels have a "desk" with levers with computerized controls and displays
it's like the difference between a sailing ship and a modern vessel
@@JacobMLindauer There’s no need to have a thermal engineering degree to operate/drive a steam locomotive or any other type of locomotive. What the OP’s asking is if one could transition from driving a steam locomotive to a different type of locomotive and back again with ease, and the answer is yes. I dare say a steam locomotive is one of the most involved types of locomotives when it comes to driving them, but the ol’ steamers are also relatively easy to learn, so the other types of locomotives should also be relatively easy to learn.
@@justahillbilly7777 well I said may need a degree in thermal engineering (or a great understanding of it) and of coarse you wouldn't need that for a diesel. I would say a steam operator would have a much easier time adapting to a diesel then vis versa. It doesn't take much to operator a diesel. The rules of the road are the same.
4:51 another reason why steam engines are better than diesels.
Someday soon Ed dickens will tell us if 3985 will be back and it is not gone it is just going away for a long rebuild while 4014 gets some spotlight in fame with 844, challenger does need a rest, but 844 seems like it can just keep going and will never need work, I wish to see 844 with its mars light and that greyhound scheme and 4014 in some fictional scheme lol, that’d be nice, and 3985 coming back to life in 2025 in that fictional 49er scheme, it’s no longer classic steamers and what the hell happened to up’s famous steam fleet, but aw man that whistle was better than 4014, she needs to borrow 3985’s whistle and number plates and boards for a while, lol
Next time turn the circus music off
this is what u get with labor unions, no work, no prog
ress
Agreed.