@@pcrtwentekanaal8458 it is!! Both Jim and Charlie have been quoted as saying they were worried they started making NGD part 2. That’s why a lot of this stuff was reworked into a more rock orientated sound? Personally think there’s absolutely nothing wrong with NGD pt 2.
Very true! They’ve never been the same band since the day he left. He was the architect of that haunting Minds sound. Would love to see him back just for one more album. Derek Forbes as well! Why not?
I love this song, its surreal, like hunter and brilliant things. Very interesting. Like this demo a lot. That song could have gone anywhere in the end. I'm glad it ended up as it did. Excellent. Thanx for the upload :)
Totally love it. Sort of how the album would have been like.New gold dream version of Sparkle. However,producer Lillywhite cracked the sound open wide as he did for U2 and so many other bands in the 80s and beyond.The guy is a genius. Thanks again for this rare gem.
I couldn't sleep a wink last night I'd love to hold on Love to see the fires in motion Love to feel a free world turn tonight Run till we come, until we be Speed your love to me Run till we come, until we be Speed your love Run till we come, until we be Speed your love to me She would like to make a wish Twenty fourth cannot be this He moved at the speed of light Through the day and through the night Fire from the flame of youth Fire Run till we come, until we be Speed your love to me Just my imagination, just my imagination You go to my head, you go to my head With the flames that go higher and higher And higher and higher and higher and higher Over and over to me, speeds your love I couldn't sleep a wink last night I'd love to hold on Love to see the fires in motion I'd love to feel a free world turn tonight Run till we come, until we be Speed your love to me Just my imagination, just my imagination You go to my head, you go to my head With the flames that go higher and higher And higher and higher and higher and higher Over and over to me, speeds your love Run till we come, until we be Speed your love You go to my head, you go to my head You go to my head, over me. Higher and higher, higher and higher All across to me Songwriters: Charles Burchill / James Kerr / Mel George Gaynor / Derek Forbes / Michael Joseph Mac Neil Show less
Oh if only Steve Lillywhite had let them do their thing with this track. The album would have been so much better if he had let them free up with the electronic stuff. This is so much like Tangerine Dream and so far ahead of its time, predating trance by eight years.
100,000,000% agree with you. They were complicit in letting him stomp all over their beautiful, impressionistic art rock/electronica with massive drums and blamming guitars. At the same time U2 were heading into SM territory with Eno & Lanois, the Minds went in the opposite direction and fucked up their sound. Shame on all concerned. No wonder Derek left them
SM were trying to make music for stadiums. LIllywhite was hired to change their sound. It's not like he had them over a barrel or something. SYLTM is actually my favourite by the them, but in this arrangement it wasn't going to work in a stadium, it's too shifting and busy. That said, they definitely should have completed this as an alternative mix for the 12" or something.
@@Isi-1975 You are exactly right in what you say In fact did you hear Charlie & Jim speaking to Steve Wright the other day & that is more or less what they said, that they wanted to make music that would sonically fill stadiums. At the same time Lillywhite did steer them in a rock direction while Charlie Burchill initially didn't like the direction the sound was going. It's great that they do the full on synth version of this at shows today though. Brilliant band & they deserve all the credit they get!
Very interesting raw sketches of these songs. They show the SM trademark interplay between Charlies guitar and Micks shimmering synth sound. Drum machine and sequencer also give the for SM characteristic "motorik" beat, adapted from bands like Can and Neu!. Compare this to the final mix, where all this is almost completely lost. Jim said in an interview that he did not want to make a New Gold Dream part 2. Well I rather had that then what we got : a U2 War Part 2.
Strange thing is Im actually preferring the demo version of 'Speed your love to me' to the album version. Wish it didnt suddenly go into demo of 'Book of Brilliant Things'
+gary09 lane It's far better, I wish they would clean the recording up and release it. They do a similar version to this one live but its still not as good.
Simple Minds went for Big Music with Lillywhite but lost the magic they had with New Gold Dream and this demo proves that they could still have this magnificence on Sparkle in the Rain.
In September 1983, Simple Minds travelled to Monnow Valley Studio in Rockfield, near Monmouth in Wales,[17] for three weeks to work on some new material; Lillywhite accompanied them for the last two weeks to meet the musicians and suggest some modifications to their music.[18] This material consisted of around six tracks developed during a session the band had spent at a recording studio called The Chapel in Lincolnshire in January,[17][18] and other initial samples recorded in London's Nomis Studios before their performance at Phoenix Park.[18] At Rockfield, most of the tracks were dramatically changed, as they had begun as demos consisting only of work by Mick MacNeil and Charlie Burchill, with some drum and bass machine sounds overlapping.[18] With drummer Mel Gaynor now having fully integrated himself into the band, the songwriting was beginning to be influenced consistently from all group members.[19]
+Dave Night So much for Lillypants to barge in then! Wonder in hindsight who would have been better for the band and the album. Conny Plank, Trevor Horn?
I think you're thinking of "Simple Minds - Speed Your Love To Me (Electro)" from when they played the SSE Hydro Glasgow in 2013? Not quite the demo but a similar style
Criminal what Lillywhite done to those tracks. Album ended up sounding more like Big Country than Simple Minds . They should have stuck with Pete Walsh .
While I love the epic Lillywhite-produced album mix, this demo is very cool - much more electro-synth-Euro-dark feel - it would be cool for SM to remake/remix this song in 2015 and release it as a bonus track or b-side...that is, if there are b-sides any more.
If you want a more polished version of this BOBT do a search for Loudery feat. Derek Forbes & Mick McNeil. They recorded it properly about 7 years ago. Shame they didn’t do SYLTM as well!
These are demo's , according to Jim Kerr some were ditched. Most highly the demo's that were made in september 1983 in the Rockfield studio's. Experimental riff playing by Charlie Burchill... Anyway the album was finished in oktober 1983 in the Townhall Studio's in London
@cadburyenglishman ...I am a fan for 25 years either. You've got it wrong. It is definately the minds. It is very common to use electric drums (even back in the 80's) when you a doing demo's. Listen to the rest of the demo's and you can hear the boys now and then. These demo's got 'simple minds 'written all over them.
Always loved these demos. Plug this one in ua-cam.com/video/J7GBS1y_rFw/v-deo.html and see how the Minds knocked this demo version of BOBT right out of the (broken glass) park in 2013. Went to a few on that tour and shat myself with excitement hearing it live. Light show was astounding, too.
you can hear all of the beautiful experimentation of Sons & Fascination / NGD here. Can't believe how Lillywhite killed it!
The great missed opportunity. Imagine how good the album would have been if they'd have stuck with this sound.
Overwhelming,
Brilliant music.
As a german simple minds fan i consider this as the best music to run the heart over and to make tears in my eyes
I suscribe entirely your words....
Comments appreciated guys,simple minds are simply amazing and deserve alot more attention and respect from certain critics.
Love this band still. 1981- present. 🏆🏆🏆
I can't BELIEVE how good the demo version is!
Great NGD version of a much rawer SitR track
@@pcrtwentekanaal8458Don't get what you mean sir?
Sorry, I was confused thinking these demos were NGD style
@@pcrtwentekanaal8458 it is!! Both Jim and Charlie have been quoted as saying they were worried they started making NGD part 2. That’s why a lot of this stuff was reworked into a more rock orientated sound? Personally think there’s absolutely nothing wrong with NGD pt 2.
@@markduffy3787 thanks Mark. By the way, I like both NGD and SitR!
They played this version of speed your love to me at the O2 arena recently. Had the place rocking.
They miss Mick Macneil !!!!
MIck MacNeil ...Genius man i never see in my life...
Very true! They’ve never been the same band since the day he left. He was the architect of that haunting Minds sound. Would love to see him back just for one more album. Derek Forbes as well! Why not?
Simple Minds are great musicians .
Their music always makes my heart soar!
Fantastic! Very much in the vein of "Theme For Great Cities"
Simple Minds without shoulder pads, how wonderful!
I cherish these demos. Genius at play.
This music opens up the skies! pure art.
I love this song, its surreal, like hunter and brilliant things. Very interesting. Like this demo a lot. That song could have gone anywhere in the end. I'm glad it ended up as it did. Excellent. Thanx for the upload :)
Kind of proves the loss of Mick was the end of them. Losing Forbes too was enough.
This is a work of art.
Super cool. Only thing missing is Mel! So creative and ahead of their time. Long live Simple Minds!
I miss Mel too,😭♥️💔🥁😎.
bass guitar is missing too...
Awesome Music with emotion!
Beautiful... Imagine if it would have been recorded onto the album!
Love the guitar on speed your love to me.
Endlessy,4ever ...proud to be a Simple Minds fan..ciao cheers from italy!
playing them live now on this tour - awesome !!!! :-)
ok i just decided to buy my ticket
Fascinating
Great interpretation. Speed Your Love has always been by fave SM song.
Totally love it.
Sort of how the album would have been like.New gold dream version of Sparkle.
However,producer Lillywhite cracked the sound open wide as he did for U2 and so many other bands in the 80s and beyond.The guy is a genius.
Thanks again for this rare gem.
I couldn't sleep a wink last night
I'd love to hold on
Love to see the fires in motion
Love to feel a free world turn tonight
Run till we come, until we be
Speed your love to me
Run till we come, until we be
Speed your love
Run till we come, until we be
Speed your love to me
She would like to make a wish
Twenty fourth cannot be this
He moved at the speed of light
Through the day and through the night
Fire from the flame of youth
Fire
Run till we come, until we be
Speed your love to me
Just my imagination, just my imagination
You go to my head, you go to my head
With the flames that go higher and higher
And higher and higher and higher and higher
Over and over to me, speeds your love
I couldn't sleep a wink last night
I'd love to hold on
Love to see the fires in motion
I'd love to feel a free world turn tonight
Run till we come, until we be
Speed your love to me
Just my imagination, just my imagination
You go to my head, you go to my head
With the flames that go higher and higher
And higher and higher and higher and higher
Over and over to me, speeds your love
Run till we come, until we be
Speed your love
You go to my head, you go to my head
You go to my head, over me.
Higher and higher, higher and higher
All across to me
Songwriters: Charles Burchill / James Kerr / Mel George Gaynor / Derek Forbes / Michael Joseph Mac Neil
Show less
Absolute amazing! I´ve never heard this version before. Really great! Thx for uploading that wonderful tune.
Thank you very much. Brilliant upload.
Absolutely Awesome
superb. 909 mix is also great live
I can't get enough of this. Thank you for uploading :)
Oh if only Steve Lillywhite had let them do their thing with this track. The album would have been so much better if he had let them free up with the electronic stuff. This is so much like Tangerine Dream and so far ahead of its time, predating trance by eight years.
100,000,000% agree with you. They were complicit in letting him stomp all over their beautiful, impressionistic art rock/electronica with massive drums and blamming guitars. At the same time U2 were heading into SM territory with Eno & Lanois, the Minds went in the opposite direction and fucked up their sound. Shame on all concerned. No wonder Derek left them
Mr Forbes knew when they were selling out.
SM were trying to make music for stadiums. LIllywhite was hired to change their sound. It's not like he had them over a barrel or something. SYLTM is actually my favourite by the them, but in this arrangement it wasn't going to work in a stadium, it's too shifting and busy. That said, they definitely should have completed this as an alternative mix for the 12" or something.
@@Isi-1975 You are exactly right in what you say In fact did you hear Charlie & Jim speaking to Steve Wright the other day & that is more or less what they said, that they wanted to make music that would sonically fill stadiums. At the same time Lillywhite did steer them in a rock direction while Charlie Burchill initially didn't like the direction the sound was going. It's great that they do the full on synth version of this at shows today though. Brilliant band & they deserve all the credit they get!
@@nickrophiliac7469 Well I think it ran both ways for them. I wouldn't say it F'd up their sound as the rock sound is equally awesome.
slow down to 0,75 and we have almost whole background with intro to 1995 Hypotised , i love it
Love this so much but it breaks my heart when I think about what could’ve been.
100% .....Unfortunately we will never know
This is magic...!!!
Very interesting raw sketches of these songs. They show the SM trademark interplay between Charlies guitar and Micks shimmering synth sound. Drum machine and sequencer also give the for SM characteristic "motorik" beat, adapted from bands like Can and Neu!. Compare this to the final mix, where all this is almost completely lost. Jim said in an interview that he did not want to make a New Gold Dream part 2. Well I rather had that then what we got : a U2 War Part 2.
Crazy they dropped this sound. They are basically flirting with inventing trance here.
This is incredible!!! I've been playing Sons and Fascination and Sister Feeling Call all day!! Great albums! Cheers Mate!
.....che figata di pezzi....paura
Strange thing is Im actually preferring the demo version of 'Speed your love to me' to the album version. Wish it didnt suddenly go into demo of 'Book of Brilliant Things'
+gary09 lane It's far better, I wish they would clean the recording up and release it. They do a similar version to this one live but its still not as good.
Simple Minds went for Big Music with Lillywhite but lost the magic they had with New Gold Dream and this demo proves that they could still have this magnificence on Sparkle in the Rain.
sublime
fantastic !!
Sipped your love to me on this is superb
In September 1983, Simple Minds travelled to Monnow Valley Studio in Rockfield, near Monmouth in Wales,[17] for three weeks to work on some new material; Lillywhite accompanied them for the last two weeks to meet the musicians and suggest some modifications to their music.[18] This material consisted of around six tracks developed during a session the band had spent at a recording studio called The Chapel in Lincolnshire in January,[17][18] and other initial samples recorded in London's Nomis Studios before their performance at Phoenix Park.[18] At Rockfield, most of the tracks were dramatically changed, as they had begun as demos consisting only of work by Mick MacNeil and Charlie Burchill, with some drum and bass machine sounds overlapping.[18] With drummer Mel Gaynor now having fully integrated himself into the band, the songwriting was beginning to be influenced consistently from all group members.[19]
+Dave Night So much for Lillypants to barge in then! Wonder in hindsight who would have been better for the band and the album. Conny Plank, Trevor Horn?
For me TH, he is monster in music and hell of a Bass player. SW held them back!
Phil Spector!
Would have been interesting to see what ENO would have done with their sound?
@@markduffy3787Should have stayed with Steve Hillage as producer!
@gazzatopdude1 make no mistake about it this is the minds raw and dangerous you can hear mr charlie burchill making that guitar scream !! iconic
These are great, especially Sparkle in the rain, interesting to hear how they evolved into what was on the album.
Quality tune mate
I love this version of SYLTM. It was awesome when the Minds played this version in their live set a few years ago.
which year they played this version live ? Thanks.
I think you're thinking of "Simple Minds - Speed Your Love To Me (Electro)" from when they played the SSE Hydro Glasgow in 2013? Not quite the demo but a similar style
Criminal what Lillywhite done to those tracks. Album ended up sounding more like Big Country than Simple Minds . They should have stuck with Pete Walsh .
They went for big music with Lillywhite but lost the magic this demo and NGD have.
Amazing oniric fascinating
😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😅
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Gilles de little 🇬🇧 2:07
magic!
So this is how it would have been aka New Gold Dream Style...
hard to pick really - both the Lillywhite & this demo are pretty awesome
Each year i listen to these demo's...😊
Recorded ( Mick MacNeil/Charlie Burchill ) i believe @ Nomis Studios.
While I love the epic Lillywhite-produced album mix, this demo is very cool - much more electro-synth-Euro-dark feel - it would be cool for SM to remake/remix this song in 2015 and release it as a bonus track or b-side...that is, if there are b-sides any more.
Dozer LA They play this version on tour, is it monumental!
Re-record it ? What’s the point of that ? They don’t have MacNeil anymore just that useless Berenice Scott.
Simple Minds...the best side of the moon
Wow! 🏴✌️
If you want a more polished version of this BOBT do a search for Loudery feat. Derek Forbes & Mick McNeil. They recorded it properly about 7 years ago. Shame they didn’t do SYLTM as well!
wow, has a real "Love Song" vibe. cool!
This is quality. Cheers Neil.
Cheers matt
Way cool!
These are demo's , according to Jim Kerr some were ditched.
Most highly the demo's that were made in september 1983 in the Rockfield studio's.
Experimental riff playing by Charlie Burchill...
Anyway the album was finished in oktober 1983 in the Townhall Studio's in London
Wow that's good
Top.
Thank you richard,cadbury it is the truth.
Hell yes
4:37 yeah
@cadburyenglishman ...I am a fan for 25 years either. You've got it wrong. It is definately the minds. It is very common to use electric drums (even back in the 80's) when you a doing demo's. Listen to the rest of the demo's and you can hear the boys now and then. These demo's got 'simple minds 'written all over them.
Wow never heard these recordings before.. can you post any more!
Thanks..
Delirius .
The second song it sounds like Tubway Army :-)
How did you get these Neil …?? These would have been great bonus tracks on the album……
Only thing missing in this demo is Ogletree's drums
Maybe to much treble, but i love it.
💋
@stevetriple agree completely with the Lilywhite comment.
No it is, it is demo sessions.
Cannot believe they let Steve Lillywhite ruin this.
Always loved these demos. Plug this one in ua-cam.com/video/J7GBS1y_rFw/v-deo.html and see how the Minds knocked this demo version of BOBT right out of the (broken glass) park in 2013. Went to a few on that tour and shat myself with excitement hearing it live. Light show was astounding, too.
Simple minds is better than u2😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ 4:42 4:51
Lilly white butchered that album
ahahah
you can hear all of the beautiful experimentation of Sons & Fascination / NGD here. Can't believe how Lillywhite killed it!