The Luddites (1988)
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- Опубліковано 23 січ 2013
- Thames Television drama-documentary about the West Riding Luddites, from 1988. Please note, although this documentary accords with many of the known facts, there are several instances of dramatic license being employed in this documentary. Particularly notable are the angry meeting between the manufacturers and croppers (which never took place), and the scene at the end where the priest tries to take confession from the condemned Luddites (a reworking of the legendary last words of the dying Luddite John Booth).
Thanks for posting. My GGG Grandfather was James Brierley. As a result of the strike he was sentenced to Sydney and arrived in 1813. He changed his name to James Brailey. My name is Philip Brailey from Sydney.
nice story pal
Diggers levellers Lluddites Chartists... all heroic. Stay in Sydney mate, the Rich still. Have their foot on English necks.
Wow. Fancy that.
Thats incredible family history.
Excellent film. Brave people. I'd like them to know they are remembered, and not forgotten.
The real point here is that the film was made in 1988, when memories of the 1984 miners' strike were still fresh. It was widely noted at the time that the film draws a close parallel between the Luddites, fighting against technological change which was rendering them redundant, and the miners, faced with much the same situation.
I was thinking of the miners throughout the film.
Some might say that neither were fighting against technical change, but about being thrown out of work and into destitution
This documentary is very informative. I am a lead-singer, songwriter for The Luddites of Detroit. We have won 7 music awards in Detroit and have been around since 1992. 1992 is an interesting landmark year as well. It was the the on-set of yet another groundbreaking technology, the computer, that is, the PC landing in individuals' laps. We identify with the original Luddites, their spirit, and their fight for all human dignity.
Are you still performing? Prior to lockdown/social distancing obviously.
yet, here you are on a website...
I just learned who they were a couple weeks ago. Luddites was used in a quote.
Lol the format is so funny look at these 1800s men and women giving interviews 😂
Thanks! Really enjoyed watching. I am currently reading EP Thompson's, "The History of the working class", and this has helped frame the history of the UK in the second decade of the 19th centuary.
Excellent, thanks for sharing this!
Great film very good in filling in the gaps of my American Education.
This is marvellous.
In Nottingham, the wide frames were the main machines putting the stockingers out of work.
The Poor Relief reminds me of Benefits and Food Banks today.
They were good men . God bless them.
Thanks for posting. An important piece of history for those who are facing the consequences of technological change.
19:55 Anne Bamforth is played by Victoria O'Keefe, best known as Jane in Threads.
In Notts, the grievances were much wider than the technology - I think it's easy to over-emphasise the wide frames (which is more about the use they put to - producing 'cut-ups'), as they were *all* mechanics, unlike in West Yorkshire and the North West. So they had concerns about Truck, the use non-apprenticed labour ('Colts'), the rent rises on the frames, speculators buying up frames to rent out etc
A closer parallel is the Wapping Dispute - in the publicity materials for this film (which I have), there's an explicit reference to that strike in an essay written by Ken Gill, then the joint General Secretary of MSF
Thank you for posting this I needed this reference
The conversation at 5:40 is quoted from Ben 'o Bill's an interesting novel from 1898 set in the time of 1812
It's amazing to me how the themes never change - the owners (CEOs) talk about ever increasing wealth which is created from layoffs, recruiting unskilled labor, and continually decreasing quality of products, which leads to planned obsolescence and therefore a need for more and more production. Now, 200 years later, we live in the post-industrial era and the full impact of these inhumane and unsustainable practices, including environmental degradation. And the employers still promise year-over-year gains to their shareholders. We should all be Luddites.
Thanks!
God bless the Ludds x
Now I know where the Unknown Comic got his mask idea.
Who is john bamforth? the men who were hanged for the murder of horsefall were Goerge Mellor, William thorpe and Thomas smith! I live round the corner from were cartrights mill was now there is an industrial and retail park called Luddite way.Also the pub called the shears were the Ludds used to meet still stands as a pub and yes called the shears! I have written a poem regarding the Ludds and their struggle if any one wants to hear it let me know!
I would like to read your poem please.
Rise Ye Luddites
Rise Ye Men of Honour
For this day is ours
Fight Ye men
Fight for thy lives
Attack thy enemy without remorse
For thy enemy shows no mercy
Attack with unceasing vengeance
So help me God and bless me
Rise ye Luddites
General Ludd
good
What else has the working man got? But to deny his labour especially in thees time when billionaires own and control Governments and policy
Good film.
Oh, and, one more thing, my mother raised 5 kids by working in a factory. It was so very difficult for her.
Can some one direct me to the song in the credits?
These machines rhe AI of their day
Imagine how bad the revolution will be once AI takes everyone's jobs.. UBI (Universal basic income) might just stop the severity of it..
Can't wait
UBI is unsustainable and just kicks the can down the road also people will be more miserable than ever staying home doing nothing
anyone watching for school
Ye
I wonder what movements will arrise from the AI revolution
In what sense?
Wasn't William Morris a Luddite aswell? Or at least ''Luddite minded''?
Yes. He was. I have studied the works of William Morris for the past 35 years.
He was an early Socialist (Communist), as well.
And a true polymath: "Renaissance Man"--jack of all trades, master of many. Amazing.
Who is here in 2024 due to brad garlinghouse's use of the word?
Well that was depressing
i have to watch this whole fucking thing for history class
Rip same
At least you're learning some bloody history instead of the useless crap and drivel that's normally drilled into your miserable brains. Learn it now, or you'll repeat it.
whats on their faces
shite probably
Oooga booga Klopp the suburbanite goobers
Luddite goon squad 😎
what the fuck
Quite a romantic imagining of history
No imaginary! Real history!
They can't just oh I don't know...LEARN NEW SKILLS!!!
Easier said than done...
They didn’t realise. Idiots aren’t they? They could’ve been back to normal in no time just doing something completely different as their trade/way of life. They already realise there would probably be a job in factory should they want it. It’s one of them, it’s hard to understand until you are in that position. Try to imagine it.
I really like the part where they smash it up with big hammers and get lit.
John you need to become Jake sully