As a Nigerian and an African, the issue of fake documents is doing a huge damage to the credibility of Africans not just at home but also to Africans in diaspora. It's a disgrace hence we're struggling to upgrade by acquiring credible education our law makers and government officials are the sole architects and custodians of lack of credibility. My country has a sitting president who apart from attending a college before it was commissioned, he is holding a CSU certificate which the Chicago University has declined to clarify. Why bring all these shame on us? 😓
Gladys Shollei doesn't know that one can have a masters without a degree. Some universities may accept applicants without a bachelor's degree if they have relevant experience and a strong overall application.
Ctzn TV agreed to be pocketed by kk government never to bring sifuna to the bench instead brings us clueless Solei and other choir members of the statehouse
6:08 What's subtly been said is that KE doesn't need higher education and I'd expect this to be gradually pushed to lower levels of education ... But questions linger: - What happens in this interim period one is gaining experience? Disasters, major errors, flops etc in service delivery? - If you successfully got this position through your "ways" what's to curb/stop this behaviour for future things? Does it become your nature? - For positions of leadership that require planning(future) how can one do such a job if they don't understand underpinnings/concepts and are NOT motivated to find out & evaluate what's happening "elsewhere" whether they are good or bad? If you don't have a plan for yourself you're simply part of other pple's plans!
Yes I agree with mheshimiwa Yusuf Hassan there is what they call equivalent or they give you to do knowledge test sometimes some people have a lot of knowledge then PhD holder
This is where I stop listening, there are millions of young graduates who can read and write and he choses to employ those that do not and instead of giving them the decency of experience coupled with their degree he is rather speaking for the quack that learnt through experience that they took which could have been gotten by a graduate who would have learnt more from experience and paid their university debts and paid for their masters and phd, im disgusted, leave young people out of your degeneracy normalizing corrupption because someone got experience that was meant for a graduate that has a few mistakes in them that would be ironed out by the experience stolen from them by corrupt individuals
But he actually studied for the exams and sat for it and earned the certificate. We are talking about someone who never studied and never sat for an exam. You gerit?
I know several people who did this. As long as he did his final standard 8 and Form 4 examinations, and he holds the original certificates, then he is qualified and they are legitimate. I also skipped a class and hence i completed high school at 16, but i have all legitimate certificates.
That's not the issue. The subject under discussion is people who present fake degrees at the point of hiring. If a job required one to have a degree but one presents a fake degree certificate, then that constitutes an offence.of forgery. He who gets into a position through corrupt means is likely to introduce more corruption at the work place. These are among the reasons why corruption is extremely pervasive.
Lol! Someone defending those who got a job through fraudlent means because they now have genuine certificates. How does he reason surely? Sad I wasted my time listening to him. Upuzi na ujinga in our parliament! Kamukunji people you can do better next time.
But others can also do a better job with diplomas. You are trying to digress from the topic. If a diploma is a requirement at the time of employment then qualifying candidates must have a genuine diploma. He who gets into employment through corrupt means can only nurture more corruption at the workplace.
Which Govt agencies? Degree certificates are issued by universities. But that's not even the issue. The issue here is of FAKE degree certificates, the ones issued from River Rd.
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we want sifuna , sifuna sifuna sifuna sifuna citizen hoyee , we need sifuna sifuna sifuna sifuna sifuna sifuna till we sleep.
continue shouting
Do you think Sifuna will be your helper.?!. I was yelling Sakaja like you were.
As a Nigerian and an African, the issue of fake documents is doing a huge damage to the credibility of Africans not just at home but also to Africans in diaspora.
It's a disgrace hence we're struggling to upgrade by acquiring credible education our law makers and government officials are the sole architects and custodians of lack of credibility.
My country has a sitting president who apart from attending a college before it was commissioned, he is holding a CSU certificate which the Chicago University has declined to clarify.
Why bring all these shame on us? 😓
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3:01
You deliberately avoided SIFUNA in this debate🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Gladys Shollei doesn't know that one can have a masters without a degree. Some universities may accept applicants without a bachelor's degree if they have relevant experience and a strong overall application.
Ctzn TV agreed to be pocketed by kk government never to bring sifuna to the bench instead brings us clueless Solei and other choir members of the statehouse
😂😂😂😂 yaaah
Dealing with a Ruto as a president is an accident in Kenya
The moral decadence in Kenya is shocking.
6:08 What's subtly been said is that KE doesn't need higher education and I'd expect this to be gradually pushed to lower levels of education ...
But questions linger:
- What happens in this interim period one is gaining experience? Disasters, major errors, flops etc in service delivery?
- If you successfully got this position through your "ways" what's to curb/stop this behaviour for future things? Does it become your nature?
- For positions of leadership that require planning(future) how can one do such a job if they don't understand underpinnings/concepts and are NOT motivated to find out & evaluate what's happening "elsewhere" whether they are good or bad?
If you don't have a plan for yourself you're simply part of other pple's plans!
Vikao,mijadala mtafanya sana lknk hakuna matunda yeyote mtapata sababu kenya watu wanaogopana pili shakahola in control yuko statehouse
Yes I agree with mheshimiwa Yusuf Hassan there is what they call equivalent or they give you to do knowledge test sometimes some people have a lot of knowledge then PhD holder
😂😂😂😅😅 fake certificates?...but they have doctorates in looting and lying 😮
Sifuna angekua hapa! Weeh... mambo yangekua tamu zaidi!! We want Sifuna bck on say break! Otherwise i will boycott watching day break!!
This is where I stop listening, there are millions of young graduates who can read and write and he choses to employ those that do not and instead of giving them the decency of experience coupled with their degree he is rather speaking for the quack that learnt through experience that they took which could have been gotten by a graduate who would have learnt more from experience and paid their university debts and paid for their masters and phd, im disgusted, leave young people out of your degeneracy normalizing corrupption because someone got experience that was meant for a graduate that has a few mistakes in them that would be ironed out by the experience stolen from them by corrupt individuals
Yuck
I condemn these unwarranted verbal attacks on TZ .
Will the government start checking the documents from 1963? otherwise the best is to forget the past and start from now
Education in kenya is a very big issue. Cheating in exam is very rampant also.
Did Citizen bann Sifuna from appearing in these debates??
I wonder
He said he's no longer interested in this
We need Sifuna bck! He dealt with Pokomo elders properly! Kaguchia naye akajipata offside!!
Has anyone resigned yet?
she trying to defend. sudi bure kabisa
The same people wanting to punish others do their business in parliament by corrupting on bills.
My son at std six jumped to std eight through merits sat exam's aquire 352 max. What can you say about this.
But he actually studied for the exams and sat for it and earned the certificate. We are talking about someone who never studied and never sat for an exam. You gerit?
I know several people who did this. As long as he did his final standard 8 and Form 4 examinations, and he holds the original certificates, then he is qualified and they are legitimate. I also skipped a class and hence i completed high school at 16, but i have all legitimate certificates.
Hello man,
Your son had already covered std six syllabus.
Most kcpe questions come from std six.
His certificate is ligit the law is very clear 😂nione kando basi.
Sudi, sakaja, etc
Illegitimacy cannot be legitimised In any way madam Sholei.
Remember Kenyans risks tight vetting abroad
Exactly I said here that the bomas meeting is about Structural Adjustment program, targeting reduction of
What is Yusuf Hassan saying?
It’s not a complex matter. Every university has a booklet of all graduates in each graduation.
It is complex because some used others to help them sit exams, simple examples is did Ruto go to classes for his doctorate?
We are demanding to have Sifuna back not statehouse puppets
Two candidates applied for a job. The one who had a fake certificate got the job. Wow! Someone condones that bhvr!!!!!
We need Sifuna back...
Or we stop watching.
#@Citizen kindly bring back Sifuna
It's true you have experience you don't have degree and ua work is better than those with degree
That's not the issue. The subject under discussion is people who present fake degrees at the point of hiring. If a job required one to have a degree but one presents a fake degree certificate, then that constitutes an offence.of forgery. He who gets into a position through corrupt means is likely to introduce more corruption at the work place. These are among the reasons why corruption is extremely pervasive.
Hon. Hussein is so unpalatable on this we always listen to gabbage
@Citizentv, @SamGituku, @Daybreak Bring back Edwin Sifuna back to the show
The other day something called prior learng was introduced
Lol! Someone defending those who got a job through fraudlent means because they now have genuine certificates. How does he reason surely? Sad I wasted my time listening to him. Upuzi na ujinga in our parliament! Kamukunji people you can do better next time.
Mheshimiwa...Yusuf..you are oozing out data
Orero my principal from uppah😅 nakumbuka ukitucane bana😅
Gachagua 😂😂
18:35 Some truth but the questions still linger
One can do a good job without diplomas that's a known fact
But others can also do a better job with diplomas. You are trying to digress from the topic. If a diploma is a requirement at the time of employment then qualifying candidates must have a genuine diploma. He who gets into employment through corrupt means can only nurture more corruption at the workplace.
even the doctors doctorate degree is questionable..
Which doctor? This is not an issue of throwing mud at a group of professionals. You have to name the individual with fake degrees.
@@georgeodhiambo598May be he is talking of Ruto?
@@johnosumba1980 Ahh, OK. Understood.
Certicates are signed by gov agencies so who should be charged
Which Govt agencies? Degree certificates are issued by universities. But that's not even the issue. The issue here is of FAKE degree certificates, the ones issued from River Rd.
Fake ones are signed and issued by River Rd cartels.
You can only be targeted if you truly have bonoko certificates 😂😂😂😂WTF
Today's first comment is from HUDSON NJOGU MUNGA Mca Kayole Central ward
Bring sifuna
Miss Boss always over explain a lot of things and then it confuses everything
Hassan stop defending Somalians blindly. We know them unfortunately