John Shepard You can defend it when it's not in-game. There's definitely a difference in-game when you play online. As someone who has played A TON of online games for EASHL since 11 (and played a ton of practice, as my club practiced at least twice a week) there is a difference between in-game and in practice.
@Felix Mohamed, from the guy who uploaded one Fifa video... Domski has a job... 2BC forum to run... Videos might not be his priority and when ask SO gently, how could he say no?
Jags Yeah, but *IMO* Johnny makes great arguments, unlike fifa community, who just rants about Price Ranges after eating EA's bread for years by promoting coin sellers.
Before people starting shredding me again, hear me out: Every game mode in NHL 15 new-gen has very specific settings for which the players are restricted too. Although you guys could see a huge difference in the old-gen vs the new-gen, the reason being is because of the preset settings. Regardless of what player you would choose, they would all act the same in practice mode because of these settings in new-gen. The old-gen of this game does not have the same settings in place for practice; therefore, you can see a big difference in the way the players are displayed. They play to their stats. I mean if you don't believe me, go play one of the live moments in NHL 15 new-gen. You can tell there is a huge difference in the settings. Practice is fluid and fast paced while many of the live moments are "hardcore" setting type, and your player's skating, deking and shooting all feel like they are nerfed to a very high degree. You have to physically change settings and sliders around in order for you get the "HUT Feel" out of those game modes. Now I'm not on anyone's side here because I have had those games where my players play to a lesser degree than others when I know mine are at a higher overall. Boosts could be in play but there is no way to know for sure unless you've seen your opponents team previously. A funny video nonetheless Johnny, but until I actually see a comparison between Scott and Crosby in an actual HUT game with HUT's specific settings and not preset practice mode settings like they are in new-gen, I still believe that card stats do in fact matter in the game.
This might just be the best NHL15 video on UA-cam. It's useful, it shows Johnny isn't a suck-up to EA, and it's fucking hilarious. Will there ever be a Phagoof giveaway?
Another amazing video, which clearly took a lot of time and effort to make. Thanks *****! Gotta be honest, as someone who plays HUT a lot, this hurt me to watch how broken the game is =( But hey, this answers a lot of my questions/qualms with the game. Good to know.
Is there one of these vids for NHL 16? I would be interested in seeing a current gen comparison between 15 and 16 to see if they improved it or just kept it the same.
First off, Johnny I agree totally. But, What I have noticed being a player in Division 2 with players consisting of mid to high 80s, and a goaltender rated 84, although you are right about individual play, I find when the players are higher overall they will pick up the loose pucks in the corners 9/10 against my defenders. Which can be a big difference maker, one loose puck loss and they can score and that affects the end result. So yes, individual player stats stay similar, but the way the players can pick up loose pucks is quicker when the overall is higher. Just my opinion from being in Division 2 for a while with people who have Rask as a backup and King Henrick as the start. My 84 ovr Lack gets shit done.
Well, what do you expect taking John Scott as an example? This guy is a stud. Overall underrated, dirty hands sniper. It's just a typo, he's 92, not 72.
Serious changes need to be made in nhl 16, one thing that would be cool is player characteristics, like players actually play and are better with certain situations, like ovy's corner shot of Jonathan quicks splits
Hey Johnny have you thought about testing the difference between regular cards of players and TOTW or even Team Of The Year players? Something tells me that the default Connor McDavid card doesn't play too much better than his nasty TOTY.
This is with practice mode settings, though. All players are practically equal in practice mode. Haven't you noticed that all players are pretty much Gretzky tier while in this mode? Do tests while in an actual HUT game and you'll see a large difference. Nice attempt but you can't use practice mode to prove your theory.
Nate Mayo There is no latency in offline mode. They aren't programmed to "be the same" in practice mode. That's asinine. They "feel" better because you aren't dealing with lag. Doing this test in offline mode removed all other variable affecting the players. It put them on equal footing and shows clearly that the difference is NEGLIGIBLE on Current Gen compared to old gen, clearly showing a deficiency in the programming of XBONE NHL 15.
Johnny is a visionary. He was on that NFT game before such a concept even existed.
Thats insane
No way EA shills can defend this. Irrefutable proof of how fucked up NHL 15 is.
John Shepard on current gen. Like EA should have just put old gen nhl into the new gen one.
John Shepard You can defend it when it's not in-game. There's definitely a difference in-game when you play online. As someone who has played A TON of online games for EASHL since 11 (and played a ton of practice, as my club practiced at least twice a week) there is a difference between in-game and in practice.
John Shepard im gonna share this link to the ea sports page
John Shepard lol bacon just tried... and failed
Next time dont compare the best two players in the league
Now John Scotts in the all star game and Crosby isnt
+gaming guru trololololololololoooloolololololo......
+gaming guru And now he's not. The NHL pulled "the houdini".
Im kind of rattled tbh
+TheCrimsonLi0n he's still in it lol
I AM TURKEY Reverse Houdini! I don't even think Johnny can pull off that one.
Can’t believe this man invented NFT’s before NFT’s were invented. Visionary 🤣
Watching this makes me proud to play NHL 15 on old gen
Me too
Same
Same here!
Same here lol
Whistleblower Watching this makes me want to trade in current gen and get last gen like I started to do in September.
This whole video was just great. Keep it up, Johnny.
Very Funny Johnny
Fuck Crosby! Biznasty deserves the 96 overall
Who cares about Crosby? I'm the real shit! 8)
Sean go back to jail
Sean Avery you went to my high school
Retweet and follow for a chance at winning 115 overall Dion Phagoof!
115 overall Phagoof ! What a great deal ! Can I use him in EA's Tiger Wood PGA tour aswell? :O I'd have a great player for every summer :D
@Felix Mohamed, from the guy who uploaded one Fifa video...
Domski has a job... 2BC forum to run... Videos might not be his priority and when ask SO gently, how could he say no?
Alex Galchenyuk lol
The mockery
wtf
Yes. Just yes.
Probably just all of John Scott's secret 99s coming out
Please Johnny, you think I'm that stupid? Buying a PhaGOOF?
I take 50...
John Scott is the captain of the all star team and crosby didnt even make the team
Crosby is still way way way better than John Scott
xxGamingBossxx For sure!
+xxGamingBossxx Nope
Jackson L do you even watch hockey
+xxGamingBossxx John Scott is a legend. Crosby is nothing compared to him
Scott is a legend. This video makes no sense Scott is 150% better than Crosby
+David Huynh Crosby fan^^
+David Huynh lol
Tommy Glodo Of course Pussyhawks fans don't know shit about hockey
Crazy Bitch r/whoosh
Ahahaha the Shane McMahon theme at the end was great .
***** Shane-O Mac!
Can I still get my hands on that 115 Dion phagoof
EA SPORTS ITS IN THE GA...
BonesOnDemand "Find the rest of the sentence in Gold Packs for limited time only"
TheKiHo89 xDDDDDD
TheKiHo89 omfg LOL
BonesOnDemand ME available for $9.99 in a DLC
TheKiHo89 Ba dum tss
I like how he criticizes everything about nhl and they still give him like a billion mega packs.
Jags Yeah, but hopefully criticism helps them to improve on the next one.
That is pretty hilarious.
Constructive Criticism: he isn't saying anything against EA making money.
Jags He's not lie the FIFA you tubers, But FIFA is the shittiest game ever. He's making in constructive and has hope, he wants to improve the game.
Jags Yeah, but *IMO* Johnny makes great arguments, unlike fifa community, who just rants about Price Ranges after eating EA's bread for years by promoting coin sellers.
This is why 2BC holds a special spot in my heart amongst the gaming channels I follow. Johnny's hilarious AND analytical.
This was the video that started it all...
Before people starting shredding me again, hear me out:
Every game mode in NHL 15 new-gen has very specific settings for which the players are restricted too. Although you guys could see a huge difference in the old-gen vs the new-gen, the reason being is because of the preset settings. Regardless of what player you would choose, they would all act the same in practice mode because of these settings in new-gen. The old-gen of this game does not have the same settings in place for practice; therefore, you can see a big difference in the way the players are displayed. They play to their stats. I mean if you don't believe me, go play one of the live moments in NHL 15 new-gen. You can tell there is a huge difference in the settings. Practice is fluid and fast paced while many of the live moments are "hardcore" setting type, and your player's skating, deking and shooting all feel like they are nerfed to a very high degree. You have to physically change settings and sliders around in order for you get the "HUT Feel" out of those game modes. Now I'm not on anyone's side here because I have had those games where my players play to a lesser degree than others when I know mine are at a higher overall. Boosts could be in play but there is no way to know for sure unless you've seen your opponents team previously. A funny video nonetheless Johnny, but until I actually see a comparison between Scott and Crosby in an actual HUT game with HUT's specific settings and not preset practice mode settings like they are in new-gen, I still believe that card stats do in fact matter in the game.
Shhh
Fuck off
***** I like your points.
Maybe Johnny could ask a fan to do the tests again during a live HUT game.
***** Makes an intelligent rebuttle to the video, people say to stop XD
WhyDaCowPiez
In what way was it intelligent. He didnt explain anything except that the game has difficulty modifiers....which....we all know about.
Absolutely fantastic video, great points throughout and lots of effort went in. Great job man, keep it up!
lel
For once I don't want to punch Pierre in the throat for talking
Who the hell invited Pierre??
Crlongboarder that's what I'm saying
Pierre Mcguire Fuck off Pierre.
Fuck you Pierre. You and Doc Emrick suck ass FUCK YOU
Me and EA have similar marketing strategies.
I love how you come up with this Johnny!! Thank you
This is one of the best thing I have seen on UA-cam in past few years ! :D
One of the best videos all year, if not the best. Good job!
Great Video Johnny. Makes everyone really think about NHL 15 Current Gen
This might just be the best NHL15 video on UA-cam. It's useful, it shows Johnny isn't a suck-up to EA, and it's fucking hilarious. Will there ever be a Phagoof giveaway?
completely opened my eyes to just how detailed nhl games are/can be
EA sports games have always been plagued by ratings not mattering
Great video man probs my fav keep up the good work
JOHN SCOTT 2016 MVP!
I noticed Scott has a different numbers between old and new gen
mooselumps1 yeah 20 and 23
I saw that too. Why?
Wolfhawk40 cause it's EA. I forgot what year but they had Kessle number 18 instead of 81
mooselumps1 That was NHL 13
Really funny ending johnny keep up the good work
Could you do a version of this for NHL 16? It would be awesome to send it to EA and show them how awful the stats differentiation actually is.
I was wondering if you would be doing a series with East Side Hockey Simulator! I'd love to see a series of it and I'm sure a lot of others would!
This was really funny but speaks the truth! Love these videos Johnny
Nice Shane o Mac theme At the end it fit so well. Great vid
Absolutely love this, Johnny!
What a vid good job 2bc!
I Remember doing these at every hockey practice. Man I miss being on the ice.
Outstanding video Johnny, really showcases the MAJOR problems with this game. Must've taken a long time but this was a beauty
What a hilarious video man,Johnny you're the best,no comment.
Another amazing video, which clearly took a lot of time and effort to make. Thanks *****!
Gotta be honest, as someone who plays HUT a lot, this hurt me to watch how broken the game is =(
But hey, this answers a lot of my questions/qualms with the game. Good to know.
One of the best 2BC videos for sure.
really well edited :)
Love this. The St.Louis Blues comparison was great (coming from a blues fan)
great vid! that blues low blow hurt a little but well deserved
Nice video Johnny!
Is there one of these vids for NHL 16? I would be interested in seeing a current gen comparison between 15 and 16 to see if they improved it or just kept it the same.
the 5 dislikes were st. louis blues fans
That ending was HILARIOUS LOL!
I don't get it.
John Scott is basically Crosby.
He's probably even on Dany Heatley levels of beastery.
Great vid bud! :))
Even though 16 is out and we see a few tweaks... I would love to see another version of this!! Are NHL 16 HUT ratings meaningful yet?
one of the better videos from ur channel johnny
Loved this episode johnny.
Johnny's got a point about his nhl 15 rant.
If nhl 15 was more popular, imagine as popular as fifa, Johnny would probably have at least a million subs, he has the best nhl videos hands down
Good vid Johny
I died during the Dion Phagoof skit. XD
this has to b the best rant video on hut ever 😂
First off, Johnny I agree totally. But, What I have noticed being a player in Division 2 with players consisting of mid to high 80s, and a goaltender rated 84, although you are right about individual play, I find when the players are higher overall they will pick up the loose pucks in the corners 9/10 against my defenders. Which can be a big difference maker, one loose puck loss and they can score and that affects the end result. So yes, individual player stats stay similar, but the way the players can pick up loose pucks is quicker when the overall is higher. Just my opinion from being in Division 2 for a while with people who have Rask as a backup and King Henrick as the start. My 84 ovr Lack gets shit done.
Johnny I didnt know you boosted John Scott! Welcome to the boost side!
Where do I go to buy the card?
I thought this was one of Johnny's better vids...nice work
this video is very eye opening. thank you for this. EA NHL has great potential to become an E-Sport,but shit like this is holding it back. great vid.
Well, what do you expect taking John Scott as an example? This guy is a stud. Overall underrated, dirty hands sniper. It's just a typo, he's 92, not 72.
Well there is your problem, John Scott is a god.
Serious changes need to be made in nhl 16, one thing that would be cool is player characteristics, like players actually play and are better with certain situations, like ovy's corner shot of Jonathan quicks splits
this is why johnny has the most subscribers in the NHL community! Good fucking work MAN!
This video was freaking awesome
Damn johnny its late you're gonna keep people up with this video
Hey Johnny have you thought about testing the difference between regular cards of players and TOTW or even Team Of The Year players? Something tells me that the default Connor McDavid card doesn't play too much better than his nasty TOTY.
Great video honestly, proves how little NHL 15 next gen was focused on gameplay
Can you do this for NHL 17? Have you seen much of an improvement in player skating as the years have gone on?
How do you feel about him now
So what your saying is that old gen wins again in NHL 15? I often wonder if I should upgrade even next year.
Is the Phanuef still available for purchase? Even though I'm on PS3, it would be an honor to pay 50.00 for such a beautiful thing.
john scott is patrick kane's lost brother
Very good video!
isnt this the video that started the john scott meme?
The Trapper no it was a website that said vote john Scott for all stars
this video is due for a comeback in 2023
The usian bolt and tyrion lannister comparison killed me XD
this is a great video, goo djob
That ending... I really want that PGA Dion
Shane O'Mac at the end of the video 😂😂😂
Can you make an Islanders playoff shootout commentary?
damn 2bc so dank
I think i just totally lost it 😂
That ending LOL
who's still watching this in 2019 lol
Uhh John Scott is the All Star MVP so he is definitly ELITE
Hahaha GOLFING! I am dying! 2BCProductions 2BC
97 Bending doe LOL
His bending needs to be higher
You HAVE to do This comparison with NHL 16, please
Looking back, this video is fucking genius.
Great video
Love the Shane McMahon theme at the end
You and KSI who plays fifa both have these great videos. Hopefully we can show EA how to fix NHL and Fifa
This is with practice mode settings, though. All players are practically equal in practice mode. Haven't you noticed that all players are pretty much Gretzky tier while in this mode? Do tests while in an actual HUT game and you'll see a large difference. Nice attempt but you can't use practice mode to prove your theory.
Nate Mayo
There is no latency in offline mode. They aren't programmed to "be the same" in practice mode. That's asinine. They "feel" better because you aren't dealing with lag.
Doing this test in offline mode removed all other variable affecting the players. It put them on equal footing and shows clearly that the difference is NEGLIGIBLE on Current Gen compared to old gen, clearly showing a deficiency in the programming of XBONE NHL 15.