I'm enjoying this so much, what a treat to hear Jared Diamond, whose fascinating books have illuminated so much to me. I'm just 1/3 of the way through this, but it should be a must for anybody curious about the world and about why it is as it is, and we are as we are.
I have so many parallel experiences with Professor Diamond, it is a relief to see another voice these observations! I am grateful to see this valuable interview!!!
IMPOSSIBLE TO 'GUIDE THE COUNTRY IN THE RIGHT WAY' due to the Military Industrial complex and their political employees.. USA is heading for what Diamond explains potential social armageddon.
Wow! He learned FINNISH. That's incredible. I've been learning (in my free time, travels and at schools/unis) various languages all my life (Japanese, Russian, French, German, Arabic, etc) - but I won't go near Finnish. It has 15 cases or something and is hella complicated. Its no Swedish or Spanish my friend, Finnish is a hard hard slog. My hat off to Dr. Diamond. D.A. NYC
Countries are actually very unique and each have unique circumstances, rather than the idea that all countries are exactly the same and should to exactly the same thing. They can be similar but are not exactly the same.
Now, listening to this great talk in 2024, and hearing that "Russia is a great example of dealing with crisis", and that's, by the way, after Russia annexed Crimea makes you think... I hope that Michael Shermer re-thought it as well
1:00:50 on the origins of agriculture. I haven't read Guns, Germs and Steel but I've a theory that the development of agriculture can be attributed to geography, specifically terrain that allowed semi isolated non-nomadic societies to develop and to invest in long term cultivation. So like an egg, an agriculture based society needs a shell to protect it from outside threats, it's making investments that are attractive to predation by outside tribes, if there's a defensible perimeter in the form of deserts, seas, rivers or mountainous terrain around a geographical area that can serve as a secure home for a close society, that society can profitably make the longer term investment in agriculture with a reasonable expectation of being able to defend it. In places where agriculture developed we see such natural barriers.
You know, I used to treat him very seriously before some random youtuber haven't run a brutal fact check of "Guns, Germ and Steel". ua-cam.com/video/qvaxPH3ftUQ/v-deo.html
@@useodyseeorbitchute9450 ah yes, the earth is flat, gravity doesn't exist and climate change is a hoax. Oh, I forgot, 911 was an inside job, and man did not land on the moon. You found it more persuasive to accept what's presented as fact-based from two alt-right, blatantly biased and white nationalist children. Rather than a scholar and academic who has committed a lifetime of work to formulate an opinion on what he thinks is a reasonable argument for why some nations succeed and why some fail. Incredible!!!!!!
@@aristolochene I'm highly awed by the best application of apply to authority argument. Almost convinced. Almost. As this "bad person" instead of continuing good storytelling, actually found data on crops yield, and they went completely against the theory (Actually, how I could be so blind to have taken Jared Diamond claims seriously, as I had known that potato revolutionised Europe by becoming cheapest source of calories?) Jared Diamond based his reasoning on claim that zebras are impossible to domesticate. Do you expect me to unsee the photos of German colonial cavalry on zebras because were shown by some alt-right guy? Do you expect me to ignore Julius Caesar description of aurox as powerful, destructive and behaving in totally unsuitable to domesticate way beast, as for JD theory to hold I need it to a be a docile cow?
South Korea, Japan, China, Mongolia, North Korea, Philippines, Vietnam, Algeria, France, Singapore, Pakistan, Thailand, India, the UK, Somalia, Iran, Isreal, Turkey, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Tunisia, Bangladesh, the UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, etc. I think in cases like these, their histories are just too different to compare. Some have/had wars, genocides, good geography, the ability of ocean trade, oil, politics, religions, gold, landlocked, lack of religion, revolutions, state breakdowns, good cropland, other easy resources, international aid, Marshall Plan money, communism, IMF loans, Exim bank loans, World Bank loans, etc. that other countries didn't have that particular event or that much aid.
Country political situations, histories, and economic situations are often completely different. Countries can be very different from each other. Comparative hisory is very hard. Can the Philippines, China, Brazil, Russia, Iran, North Korea, Turkey, South Korea, Kosovo, Japan, Israel, Macau and Mongolia be compared. And then there's question whether Taiwan and Palestine, North Korea, South Korea, etc. are countries or not.
Regarding the brief segment about the 2020 presidential election (at the 59 minute mark) and Trump refusing to step down if he is defeated, bear in mind that Trump appointed a commission to investigate the accuracy of the popular vote as one of his first acts as president. He actually contested the results of his own election victory. Imagine what he'll do if he loses.
I don't understand the "refusing to step down if defeated" fear. It's not like anyone would care. He would be escorted out by the police or the secret service if defeated. There are commissions and courts in the US and let them deal with him.
Anyone who really wants to register can. I registered to vote when I was 18, 60 years ago. I suspect many who don't vote wouldn't even if they were registered. You have to pay attention and want to vote.
A takedown it was indeed. It was a direct evidence-based refutation of GGS. Diamond seemingly wrote GGS with a pre-conceived narrative in mind that he fleshed out with a semi-plausible "just-so" story. In order for his geographic determinism story to work, he totally dismissed and denigrated an entire field of established psychometric research into IQ and its heritability. This is scientific malpractice. Diamond writes to pander to a receptive NYT reading audience (white, elite, urban, liberal bubble types). I'm disappointed to see here that Shermer is treating Diamond as a respected intellectual and credible science writer.
@@element5999 I'm aware of all that but purposefully resorted to just that tiny snippet of information so hopefully people would be curious enough to check it out for themselves. I fear that when they read yours they'll immediately dismiss all information up to the point of the "contentious subject", which they find ludicrous either way. _"I'm disappointed to see here that Shermer is treating Diamond as a respected intellectual and credible science writer"_ Why wouldn't he? Diamonds politics are right up Shermer's alley.
I thought I'd peruse what you're citing here. First thing I see on the page of the video's sources link is a banner declaring Jared to be a bigot. This is laughable on it's face. Looking at various articles on the Alt Hyp site, there's a quite distinct stench of white supremacy BS. One article on "Mixed Blood" contains this gem--"pure-blooded native Brazilian". WTF? That's so laughable I don't know where to begin, so I'll just say "pure blood" is, by itself, an incoherent concept. As for "an entire field of established psychometric research into IQ and its heritability", it's an entire field without a good grasp of the definition of it's central focus, rife with poorly controlled studies, and little if any understanding of the roll epigenetics plays.
@@mechtheist Diamond is being referred to by Alt Hyp as a "bigot" because his narrative and thesis in GGS is specifically designed to dismiss the extraordinary achievements of white Europeans as just a fluke of purely environmental factors, yet he highly praises the Papuans for their alleged high intelligence without critically examining that claim. In other words, he's a bigot against white European success with a huge opus of "just-so" storytelling that intentionally favors a narrative that the brown indigenous peoples are innately just as good or better than the Europeans...if it wasn't for those white Europeans and their lucky geography. Sound familiar? This is the same anti-white, anti-Western narrative that's become so pervasive in Academia As for IQ, you have nothing to back your argument that is in any way accepted in mainstream psychology. IQ is the most validated psychometric measure ever devised by science. You're simply stating anti-science nonsense. Care to cite your references for these "poorly controlled studies"? Here, I'll point you to a good starting point of validated mainstream science: "The Neurosciece of Intelligence" by Richard Haier, one of the foremost researchers into intelligence and functional brain scanning. He presents the current state of the research into intelligence, its genetic factors, its environmental factors, and the anatomical and functional brain differences between the highly intelligent and the average or below average. Epigenetics has repeatedly been shown to have little impact on IQ and behavior. In fact, the multiple longitudinal twin studies on IQ would clearly tease-out epigenetics as an explanatory variation factor in differences between twins, but these studies don't. It's another wishful thought that lacks validated evidence...care to cite something? I'll point you in another direction: "Blueprint" by Robert Plomin, a leading researcher in behavioral genetics whose 45 years of twin studies world-wide has demonstrated the power of genes largely shaping one's personality, behavior, and especially IQ. Neither of their work was even remotely mentioned or referenced by Diamond because it gets in the way of his thesis. In fact, Diamond conveniently points out race in GGS when referring to the people measuring IQ as being "white"...wink, wink folks - it's all biased and flawed stuff so don't worry about it! Bigoted indeed... You can defend Diamond's GGS all you want, it's a good read for sure, but it lacks credible citations for the claims being made. It throws out the mainstream science on modern human genetic selection for behavior and IQ to make his argument seem superficially plausible. Most importantly, it alleviates the internal guilt and hand-wringing felt by white egalitarian leftists that they're the shamefully undeserved beneficiaries of evolutionary selection.
mechtheist, Yup, it's pretty hilarious that those people call Jared a bigot. lol Guns, Germs and Steel is an explanation for how Europeans/White people/Whatever didn't *have* to be superior to explain most of the differences we see in the world today. It's an anti-bigoted view. What really amuses me is that the people whining about it are either the crazy SJW types *or* the far-right "race realism" types, and both groups do their whining for the same reason, it challenges their world view. The SJW types want all the differences to be the fault of white people and their cruelty, imperialism etc. and the "race realist" types want the difference to be genetic because that makes them feel good about being white I guess. Both groups are equally crazy and unscientific. It's hilarious how often they actually use the same methods, same kinds of arguments etc. just about different topics.
This guy predicted the 2020 election problems. The Guns, germs and steel rationale is very well written. Of course you can pick apart any interpretation, but the opposite interpretation of civilization development where one group in inherently superior is asinine. Most people only get a surface level of history and a version as told by the victors of conquest. Hence kids in Japan have a different version of WWII. People tend to have confirmation bias. If you never questioned something you strongly believe, you definitely have confirmation bias.
the comments on australian aboriginal reconciliation are way out of date.Prime minister rudd apologised (unreservedly ) for past treatment of indigenous australians in 2008. Reconciliation is an ongoing process , but woe betide anyone who vilifies our aboriginal people. The reason so many asians are at Australian universities is because we sell places for overseas students ; its one of austalia largest industries.
Such a disgrace, less than 400 views, WTF people, as Charles Pierce wrote in " Idiot America " our nation has lost their ' Common Sense ' , anyway thanks for this very important conversation.
Jared Diamond's work has recently been debunked in spectacular fashion. It's pretty infuriating how much nonsense this guy has gotten wedged into universities for that past few decades now. ua-cam.com/video/qvaxPH3ftUQ/v-deo.html
@@YOSUP315 ah yes, the earth is flat, gravity doesn't exist and climate change is a hoax. Oh, I forgot, 911 was an inside job, and man did not land on the moon. You found it more persuasive to accept what's presented as fact-based from two alt-right, blatantly biased and white nationalist children. Rather than a scholar and academic who has committed a lifetime of work to formulate an opinion on what he thinks is a reasonable argument for why some nations succeed and why some fail. Incredible!!!!!!
@@aristolochene All Diamond studied as a scientist was gall bladders. Yeah, not really relevant. The rest of it is just his political bias. Watch the linked video, don't just believe the trash you hear from Vaush and Thought Slime or whatever: actually watch the video.
The US is very difficult to immigrate to in non-family categories. Actually the reason why Canada has higher merit-based immigration proportion than the US is that it's much easier to immigrate through merit categories there than in the US. In other words, Canadian immigration laws are way more liberal than American which results in higher quality immigrants while in the US most folks immigrate either based on their family relations, lottery or they do it illegally (for not having other options).
Capitalism is an economic system, Marxism is both an economic and a political system, Pinochet's government was bad not because it was capitalist but because it was authoritarian.
@@andrewworth7574 ROTFLMAO! Capitalism is also a political system you fucking idiot. It is implemented through political means using laws passed by politicians in a political system. Capitalism is not politically neutral. Pinochet was advised by Milton Friedman and the Chicago boys school of economics. He followed their advice explicitly, and based the Chilean economy on their free market fascist ideology.
@@squatch545 Idiot, did Friedman also tell Pinochet that it was capitalist not to hold elections? Is the US less capitalist than Pinochet's Chile because the US is democratic? Capitalism is only an economic system, if you'd argued that Marxism was an economic system but not a political system you'd have had a far stronger argument.
@@andrewworth7574You can't separate economics from politics. That's why capitalism is also a political system, it has to be implemented through political means. A political system has to allow capitalism to exist in the first place and be the economic system within it. No capitalist society has ever existed without a state i.e. without the support of the political system that allows it. All the laws around property, ownership, production, investment, etc are laws decided by politicians with a political ideology rendered through a political process. Not to mention all the political propaganda (e.g. the work ethic, individualism, personal responsibility, what's good for GM is good for America, anti-communism, the red scare, etc.) needed to brainwash people into accepting capitalism. To suggest capitalism is somehow free from these political considerations and institutions, and is magically independent from any political ideology is ludicrous. Forcing people to live their lives in a certain economic way rather than another economic way IS a political decision. Ergo: a political ideology.
@@squatch545 you can have authoritarian socialism (Venezuela), democratic socialism (Ecuador), authoritarian capitalism (Pinochet, Hitlers Germany, arguably China today), democratic capitalism (Western economies), that's the basic four, they're distinctive combinations of political and economic systems, though obviously there's degrees of democratic functionality just as there's degrees of socialism. It's actually really simple, lumping Ecuador, where there's an elected government, in with Venezuela, which at the moment has a government in which the elected house has been excluded from power, just because they're both socialist does nothing but blur and confuse to the advantage of the politically dishonest, if the people of Ecuador want a socialist economy that should be their choice, if the people of Venezuela have worked out that socialism sucks getting rid of it should also be their choice.
Dear Jared is a lighthouse of knowledge. Health and longevity for you sir.
I'm enjoying this so much, what a treat to hear Jared Diamond, whose fascinating books have illuminated so much to me. I'm just 1/3 of the way through this, but it should be a must for anybody curious about the world and about why it is as it is, and we are as we are.
Old Jared Diamond is a national treasure. Love all his work. Thx M.Shermer D.A., JD, NYC
Agreed 👏
Now I understand why I enjoy his writing, despite a dislike of history... he has a background in science & his writing is all comparative! 😃
I have so many parallel experiences with Professor Diamond, it is a relief to see another voice these observations! I am grateful to see this valuable interview!!!
Jared is amazing, first time I’ve encountered him, thank you Michael
We need more people like Jared in the world.
Great interview
An old-fashioned man of Wisdom
Great talk guys
yeee got the chills when he called what's happening now with the US election
My favourite historian :)
read thru the book, such a interesting read. politicians in American should read this book. guide the country in the right way.
IMPOSSIBLE TO 'GUIDE THE COUNTRY IN THE RIGHT WAY' due to the Military Industrial complex and their political employees.. USA is heading for what Diamond explains potential social armageddon.
Wow! He learned FINNISH. That's incredible. I've been learning (in my free time, travels and at schools/unis) various languages all my life (Japanese, Russian, French, German, Arabic, etc) - but I won't go near Finnish. It has 15 cases or something and is hella complicated. Its no Swedish or Spanish my friend, Finnish is a hard hard slog. My hat off to Dr. Diamond. D.A. NYC
Exactly. As did Tolkien.
It’s not Indo European grammar.
Ja deutsch ist schwer genug mit Nominative Akkusativ Dativ und Genitiv 😢Der hat ganz schön viel Gehirn 🧠
And the economy best serves humanity and human growth, when it acts like a gardener. We should try it
Interesting statement by Michael at ~58:10
Every race of people has a right to be its own
Countries are actually very unique and each have unique circumstances, rather than the idea that all countries are exactly the same and should to exactly the same thing. They can be similar but are not exactly the same.
Another great discussion - thanks.
Now, listening to this great talk in 2024, and hearing that "Russia is a great example of dealing with crisis", and that's, by the way, after Russia annexed Crimea makes you think... I hope that Michael Shermer re-thought it as well
1:00:50 on the origins of agriculture. I haven't read Guns, Germs and Steel but I've a theory that the development of agriculture can be attributed to geography, specifically terrain that allowed semi isolated non-nomadic societies to develop and to invest in long term cultivation. So like an egg, an agriculture based society needs a shell to protect it from outside threats, it's making investments that are attractive to predation by outside tribes, if there's a defensible perimeter in the form of deserts, seas, rivers or mountainous terrain around a geographical area that can serve as a secure home for a close society, that society can profitably make the longer term investment in agriculture with a reasonable expectation of being able to defend it. In places where agriculture developed we see such natural barriers.
You've hit on one of his points. You MUST read Guns, Germs, and Steel. It's a brilliant tour de force.
So few have viewed or commented on arguably the most important non fiction writer on natural science alive. So sad!
*fiction writer
You know, I used to treat him very seriously before some random youtuber haven't run a brutal fact check of "Guns, Germ and Steel".
ua-cam.com/video/qvaxPH3ftUQ/v-deo.html
@@nunolassousa the simpler explanation is that people are generally idiots. You're an example of this stupidity.
@@useodyseeorbitchute9450 ah yes, the earth is flat, gravity doesn't exist and climate change is a hoax. Oh, I forgot, 911 was an inside job, and man did not land on the moon. You found it more persuasive to accept what's presented as fact-based from two alt-right, blatantly biased and white nationalist children. Rather than a scholar and academic who has committed a lifetime of work to formulate an opinion on what he thinks is a reasonable argument for why some nations succeed and why some fail. Incredible!!!!!!
@@aristolochene I'm highly awed by the best application of apply to authority argument. Almost convinced. Almost. As this "bad person" instead of continuing good storytelling, actually found data on crops yield, and they went completely against the theory (Actually, how I could be so blind to have taken Jared Diamond claims seriously, as I had known that potato revolutionised Europe by becoming cheapest source of calories?)
Jared Diamond based his reasoning on claim that zebras are impossible to domesticate. Do you expect me to unsee the photos of German colonial cavalry on zebras because were shown by some alt-right guy?
Do you expect me to ignore Julius Caesar description of aurox as powerful, destructive and behaving in totally unsuitable to domesticate way beast, as for JD theory to hold I need it to a be a docile cow?
South Korea, Japan, China, Mongolia, North Korea, Philippines, Vietnam, Algeria, France, Singapore, Pakistan, Thailand, India, the UK, Somalia, Iran, Isreal, Turkey, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Tunisia, Bangladesh, the UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, etc. I think in cases like these, their histories are just too different to compare. Some have/had wars, genocides, good geography, the ability of ocean trade, oil, politics, religions, gold, landlocked, lack of religion, revolutions, state breakdowns, good cropland, other easy resources, international aid, Marshall Plan money, communism, IMF loans, Exim bank loans, World Bank loans, etc. that other countries didn't have that particular event or that much aid.
South Korea certainly very strange and tough economic and political history yet it is rich today.
Country political situations, histories, and economic situations are often completely different. Countries can be very different from each other. Comparative hisory is very hard. Can the Philippines, China, Brazil, Russia, Iran, North Korea, Turkey, South Korea, Kosovo, Japan, Israel, Macau and Mongolia be compared. And then there's question whether Taiwan and Palestine, North Korea, South Korea, etc. are countries or not.
Regarding the brief segment about the 2020 presidential election (at the 59 minute mark) and Trump refusing to step down if he is defeated, bear in mind that Trump appointed a commission to investigate the accuracy of the popular vote as one of his first acts as president. He actually contested the results of his own election victory. Imagine what he'll do if he loses.
I don't understand the "refusing to step down if defeated" fear. It's not like anyone would care. He would be escorted out by the police or the secret service if defeated. There are commissions and courts in the US and let them deal with him.
We'll see in a day or two.
Anyone who really wants to register can. I registered to vote when I was 18, 60 years ago. I suspect many who don't vote wouldn't even if they were registered. You have to pay attention and want to vote.
That's coincidental. Alternative Hypothesis just published a two hour takedown of his seminal work "Guns, Germs and Steel".
A takedown it was indeed. It was a direct evidence-based refutation of GGS. Diamond seemingly wrote GGS with a pre-conceived narrative in mind that he fleshed out with a semi-plausible "just-so" story. In order for his geographic determinism story to work, he totally dismissed and denigrated an entire field of established psychometric research into IQ and its heritability. This is scientific malpractice. Diamond writes to pander to a receptive NYT reading audience (white, elite, urban, liberal bubble types). I'm disappointed to see here that Shermer is treating Diamond as a respected intellectual and credible science writer.
@@element5999 I'm aware of all that but purposefully resorted to just that tiny snippet of information so hopefully people would be curious enough to check it out for themselves. I fear that when they read yours they'll immediately dismiss all information up to the point of the "contentious subject", which they find ludicrous either way.
_"I'm disappointed to see here that Shermer is treating Diamond as a respected intellectual and credible science writer"_
Why wouldn't he? Diamonds politics are right up Shermer's alley.
I thought I'd peruse what you're citing here. First thing I see on the page of the video's sources link is a banner declaring Jared to be a bigot. This is laughable on it's face. Looking at various articles on the Alt Hyp site, there's a quite distinct stench of white supremacy BS. One article on "Mixed Blood" contains this gem--"pure-blooded native Brazilian". WTF? That's so laughable I don't know where to begin, so I'll just say "pure blood" is, by itself, an incoherent concept. As for "an entire field of established psychometric research into IQ and its heritability", it's an entire field without a good grasp of the definition of it's central focus, rife with poorly controlled studies, and little if any understanding of the roll epigenetics plays.
@@mechtheist Diamond is being referred to by Alt Hyp as a "bigot" because his narrative and thesis in GGS is specifically designed to dismiss the extraordinary achievements of white Europeans as just a fluke of purely environmental factors, yet he highly praises the Papuans for their alleged high intelligence without critically examining that claim. In other words, he's a bigot against white European success with a huge opus of "just-so" storytelling that intentionally favors a narrative that the brown indigenous peoples are innately just as good or better than the Europeans...if it wasn't for those white Europeans and their lucky geography. Sound familiar? This is the same anti-white, anti-Western narrative that's become so pervasive in Academia
As for IQ, you have nothing to back your argument that is in any way accepted in mainstream psychology. IQ is the most validated psychometric measure ever devised by science. You're simply stating anti-science nonsense. Care to cite your references for these "poorly controlled studies"? Here, I'll point you to a good starting point of validated mainstream science: "The Neurosciece of Intelligence" by Richard Haier, one of the foremost researchers into intelligence and functional brain scanning. He presents the current state of the research into intelligence, its genetic factors, its environmental factors, and the anatomical and functional brain differences between the highly intelligent and the average or below average.
Epigenetics has repeatedly been shown to have little impact on IQ and behavior. In fact, the multiple longitudinal twin studies on IQ would clearly tease-out epigenetics as an explanatory variation factor in differences between twins, but these studies don't. It's another wishful thought that lacks validated evidence...care to cite something? I'll point you in another direction: "Blueprint" by Robert Plomin, a leading researcher in behavioral genetics whose 45 years of twin studies world-wide has demonstrated the power of genes largely shaping one's personality, behavior, and especially IQ.
Neither of their work was even remotely mentioned or referenced by Diamond because it gets in the way of his thesis. In fact, Diamond conveniently points out race in GGS when referring to the people measuring IQ as being "white"...wink, wink folks - it's all biased and flawed stuff so don't worry about it! Bigoted indeed...
You can defend Diamond's GGS all you want, it's a good read for sure, but it lacks credible citations for the claims being made. It throws out the mainstream science on modern human genetic selection for behavior and IQ to make his argument seem superficially plausible. Most importantly, it alleviates the internal guilt and hand-wringing felt by white egalitarian leftists that they're the shamefully undeserved beneficiaries of evolutionary selection.
mechtheist, Yup, it's pretty hilarious that those people call Jared a bigot. lol
Guns, Germs and Steel is an explanation for how Europeans/White people/Whatever didn't *have* to be superior to explain most of the differences we see in the world today. It's an anti-bigoted view.
What really amuses me is that the people whining about it are either the crazy SJW types *or* the far-right "race realism" types, and both groups do their whining for the same reason, it challenges their world view. The SJW types want all the differences to be the fault of white people and their cruelty, imperialism etc. and the "race realist" types want the difference to be genetic because that makes them feel good about being white I guess.
Both groups are equally crazy and unscientific. It's hilarious how often they actually use the same methods, same kinds of arguments etc. just about different topics.
This guy predicted the 2020 election problems. The Guns, germs and steel rationale is very well written. Of course you can pick apart any interpretation, but the opposite interpretation of civilization development where one group in inherently superior is asinine. Most people only get a surface level of history and a version as told by the victors of conquest. Hence kids in Japan have a different version of WWII. People tend to have confirmation bias. If you never questioned something you strongly believe, you definitely have confirmation bias.
I mean Indonesia didn't have the Vietnam War and Vietnam didn't have Indonesia's dictatorship period.
Dr. Diamond has led a very protected life.
the comments on australian aboriginal reconciliation are way out of date.Prime minister rudd apologised (unreservedly ) for past treatment of indigenous australians in 2008. Reconciliation is an ongoing process , but woe betide anyone who vilifies our aboriginal people.
The reason so many asians are at Australian universities is because we sell places for overseas students ; its one of austalia largest industries.
I like his artful dodge of the Trump Question at the end.
58:00
Uncanny
Such a disgrace, less than 400 views, WTF people, as Charles Pierce wrote in " Idiot America " our nation has lost their ' Common Sense ' , anyway thanks for this very important conversation.
Jared Diamond's work has recently been debunked in spectacular fashion. It's pretty infuriating how much nonsense this guy has gotten wedged into universities for that past few decades now.
ua-cam.com/video/qvaxPH3ftUQ/v-deo.html
@@YOSUP315 ah yes, the earth is flat, gravity doesn't exist and climate change is a hoax. Oh, I forgot, 911 was an inside job, and man did not land on the moon. You found it more persuasive to accept what's presented as fact-based from two alt-right, blatantly biased and white nationalist children. Rather than a scholar and academic who has committed a lifetime of work to formulate an opinion on what he thinks is a reasonable argument for why some nations succeed and why some fail. Incredible!!!!!!
@@aristolochene All Diamond studied as a scientist was gall bladders. Yeah, not really relevant. The rest of it is just his political bias. Watch the linked video, don't just believe the trash you hear from Vaush and Thought Slime or whatever: actually watch the video.
The US is very difficult to immigrate to in non-family categories. Actually the reason why Canada has higher merit-based immigration proportion than the US is that it's much easier to immigrate through merit categories there than in the US. In other words, Canadian immigration laws are way more liberal than American which results in higher quality immigrants while in the US most folks immigrate either based on their family relations, lottery or they do it illegally (for not having other options).
Canada here...its bad. They don't assimilate. It's going to be bad.....
Notice how they call the Chilean regime under Allende 'Marxist', but they don't call the Pinochet regime 'capitalist'.
Capitalism is an economic system, Marxism is both an economic and a political system, Pinochet's government was bad not because it was capitalist but because it was authoritarian.
@@andrewworth7574 ROTFLMAO! Capitalism is also a political system you fucking idiot. It is implemented through political means using laws passed by politicians in a political system. Capitalism is not politically neutral. Pinochet was advised by Milton Friedman and the Chicago boys school of economics. He followed their advice explicitly, and based the Chilean economy on their free market fascist ideology.
@@squatch545 Idiot, did Friedman also tell Pinochet that it was capitalist not to hold elections? Is the US less capitalist than Pinochet's Chile because the US is democratic? Capitalism is only an economic system, if you'd argued that Marxism was an economic system but not a political system you'd have had a far stronger argument.
@@andrewworth7574You can't separate economics from politics. That's why capitalism is also a political system, it has to be implemented through political means. A political system has to allow capitalism to exist in the first place and be the economic system within it. No capitalist society has ever existed without a state i.e. without the support of the political system that allows it. All the laws around property, ownership, production, investment, etc are laws decided by politicians with a political ideology rendered through a political process. Not to mention all the political propaganda (e.g. the work ethic, individualism, personal responsibility, what's good for GM is good for America, anti-communism, the red scare, etc.) needed to brainwash people into accepting capitalism. To suggest capitalism is somehow free from these political considerations and institutions, and is magically independent from any political ideology is ludicrous. Forcing people to live their lives in a certain economic way rather than another economic way IS a political decision. Ergo: a political ideology.
@@squatch545 you can have authoritarian socialism (Venezuela), democratic socialism (Ecuador), authoritarian capitalism (Pinochet, Hitlers Germany, arguably China today), democratic capitalism (Western economies), that's the basic four, they're distinctive combinations of political and economic systems, though obviously there's degrees of democratic functionality just as there's degrees of socialism.
It's actually really simple, lumping Ecuador, where there's an elected government, in with Venezuela, which at the moment has a government in which the elected house has been excluded from power, just because they're both socialist does nothing but blur and confuse to the advantage of the politically dishonest, if the people of Ecuador want a socialist economy that should be their choice, if the people of Venezuela have worked out that socialism sucks getting rid of it should also be their choice.
That's not even true. They all recover.
Man simply put large mammals were not domesticated because we invented domestication. Much like religion and the rest of it.
Hello
Diamond is losing his edge.