Hi Antique Allis - great video, thank you for posting. I am an "Antique IHC" but I can appreciate the genius, design, and productivity of these vintage farm equipment companies that help farmers feed America and win two World Wars. I remember the excitement of going to farm machinery shows in the 60~70's when we had all these companies trying to out-do/out-perform each other. I also remember the "Snap Coupler" implement attachment system to compete with the International Harvester's "Fast Hitch" system - those were the days! Peace be with you, Ciao, L (Morningside and Starshine Farms, Inc.)
I don't believe what I just saw. Those 60+ year old machines are still out there. Simplicity in design never goes out of style. For the part time limited scale farmer these machines are all that's all that on the market for them. Hopefully they will be around for decades to come.
Great video, Mr. Anderson, and thank you so much for filming it and uploading it for us. You did a very nice job of filming the action of the header and everything.
Years ago my uncle had 2 of these AC combines with corn heads on them, We shelled 75 acres with them for several years . One of them had the AC side hitch to toe a small wagon beside it to dump on the go, Its the only one I've ever seen to have one on it and it worked pretty good . Glad to see this old girl out there still running. Thanks for posting this video on here. Bandit
Nostalgia and the good ole days, if you were able to talk to my dad he would have told you that the old equipment was not that great he always said if we were doing it like we did fifty years ago not many would do it. It was hard backbreaking work..
Very cool video. I had a model 66 which I just sold to a friend this past summer. I hadn't used it in about 7 years and it had been sitting outside so I thought it was better to sell it to someone who would use it. Turns out that the floor of the cylinder chamber was rotten out - I had no idea. I never had a corn head for mine. Although I'm an Oliver guy, it's cool to see this machine pulled with an AC tractor.
Wow! A corn head & cylinder tach! You're a lucky man. I passed up on a 66 with the tach ages ago, as I didn't know anything about it at the time. Still kicking myself for that one. Would love to find a setup like yours, but they didn't make a lot of those corn heads. I see you have a bunch of All-Crop videos. I'll be checking them out & you have a new subscriber. Regards.
Thanks for sharing. I did not know there was a corn head for these old Allis's. I don't remember it being that hard to stay on a row. Find a spot to drive your tractor's front tires down and stick with it. Look back just once and a while to see if the combine is still following you. We had a pull type picker. This setup would take some getting used to though with the head being on the left hand side of the tractor. Full watch and like.
Gawd you just took me back about 50+ years,,, they were good days,, we didnt think so then but now I know they were good days,, and the sweat and hurting never hurt us a bit
Lord I miss them days bad if we weren't in the fields which we always were for some reason we raised hogs farrow to finish that alone is work pal trust me
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Combine performed very well. The head had 2 issues. 1st the corn was planted on 30" rows and the head is a 38", because of this the stalks get pushed to the outside and drop ears on the ground. 2nd was that the newer variety of corn is much taller now and the apron could not move the trash away fast enough and I had to slow down or stop so it could clean out.
Nice set up. Don't see very many all crops with corn heads on them. Where in Illinois you from? I live near Geneseo and about 3 miles from Antique Engine and Tractor Association show grounds. I would love to see that outfit working there sometime.
@@The1952caallis Your videos are really fascinating. Ive ridden through ridott on a bike along maybe an old rail grade that used to go through there? from freeport heading towards rockford. love that landscape in that area.
Allis made about 1200 corn heads for the All-Crop Harvesters. They didn't sale very well mainly do to the fact that most farmers were buying the self-propelled combines by that time. Most of the heads were cut up in the warehouse for scrap. I know of only 5 All-Crops with corn heads.
Hooking up the head is easy. It’s 2 bolts, a pin and PTO shaft. The harder part is getting the base combine ready for the head. The concave needs to be thicker and reinforced. The cylinder bars are also thicker and larger size. Lots of extra brackets and bracing to support the extremely heavier head over the small grain head. A lot of drilling bolt holes a some welding. Long story short is you just cannot through a corn head on and expect it to last. It took me about a week of working on the combine before it was ready to hookup the head.
Do you find this type of combine collects more of the grain then the new combines? There seems to be a lot of new grain growing in the fields after the combine is gone today.
The All-Crop Harvesters were designed and built when the farmers harvested seed for the seed companies. So the All-Crops supplied a near perfect grain sample with little to no loss of grain. They still do a better job than the newer combines. The All-Crops were built to produce a good quality grain sample, not mass quantities. That’s the trade off.
No ears tumbled down out of the head and no shelled corn was lost out the back and no corn was left on the cobs. The only time we seen any ear loss was when the stalks were flung outward. So that being the case I would say it could get 99%-100%.
@@joescheller6680 -- Sheesh, Joe. So far that is the THIRD time I have seen you say that in the comments on this video. Give Mr. Anderson a break, and enjoy the video for what it is instead of nitpicking it, and be thankful that Mr. Anderson filmed it and put the video up here for us to enjoy.
Logan Nye , usually when it’s time to combine corn the moisture of the corn is in the low 20%-15%. Yes most of the time the corn needs to be dried down for storage.
Lotta people didn't know you could put a corn head on a 66,... I didn't till a few year's ago,.... the cylinder tach was new to me,.... Allis Chalmer's did stuff like that.......
Was there anything those old things couldn't handle.? And the incredible simplicity of their design. No wonder people are on the lookout for them today. Their only drawback is that they coouldn't cut a million acres in a day
0% loss from the separator , not sure how much loss off the head as I was combining 30" rows with a 38" head. Because of this a few ears were lost as the head forced the stalks outwards.
@@hubertbergen3000 that’s where I thought you maybe going. However the D-14 has about 10 horses more than needed. The governor wasn’t kicking in at all.
Well I don't know about that, but I wish UA-cam would make it so if you dislike the videos one would be forced to comment why. It's difficult to please everyone but it's harder to fix or change things when you don't know what the issues are. I'm sure some people dislike just to be negative and beat people down because of a difference of opinion, but that's their issue not mine!
@@The1952caallis I know what you mean, like I tell people on my channel, I'm ok if ya dislike as long as you tell me why you dislike in the comments so I can maybe change something, or like I always say in some of my equipment videos, do you like a voice over on what is happening or not and let me know in the comments, (although it never happens) to be honest I would not be mad if someone left a hate comment because I can work up on that to hopefully grow my channel
....And, we don't have to listen to a John Deere 2-cylinder in the background. Our "60" had a Jeep motor on it and was pulled by a Farmall F-20. The carcass is across the road in a stand of trees. RIP
Me too I was stuned, I knew the machine is anall crop but wow. as a kid growing up a farmer near us had an all crop but they used a mounted picker with no sheller.
This is a scene that will never be real again in Medina Co Tx. All the farms are being chopped up into 5- 15 acre homesites. The local irrigation company is controlled by the city of San Antonio. No more farming, no irrigation, Just greedy real estate agents, raising our taxes with each sale of land.
I agree with you George, we have the same problem in our area, Beeville TX - former home of Navy's Training Air Wing Three... Peace be with you and may God save America, Ciao, L
if you stare at the corn going into the chute, it looks like a bunch of witches getting sucked inside... maybe this is why its always associated with Halloween and witchcraft
I like those machines and if anyone can employ me as farm machinery operator I'll be the happiest man ever so if anybody is interested please contact me we talk
This machine was made when the land and its crops actually paid for itself and the machines used on it, unlike today, where farmers get checks from the government just for existing. Now farmers' incomes are based on the number of acres they farm instead of the crops they produce. That's why little farmers are in trouble, and big farmers buy $500,000 combines, and the small, affordable machines like these are no longer made. Don't believe me? Try $14 an acre (what the fed pays) times $5,000 acres. Mr. Big Farmer gets $70,000 of our taxes! He can afford to lose a middle class income and still live middle class, all while producing no profit from his farm! The small farmer can't lose anything, because a 200 acre farm will get only $2,800. That's socialized agriculture in America. We need to stop this farmer racket and let them earn a living based on their product and abilities, so they''ll grow something we actually want to buy (not more soybeans!) and the small farm will have a chance once again.
I ran a Allis 60 all crop on wheat and soybeans when i was a kid. Of all the new high dollar equip i ran in the field growing up that little combine had my utmost respect.
How very well informed! Of course you’ll want to remember to account for his tax bill on those 5,000 acres if he’s lucky enough to own them outright. Or the land payments on 5,000 acres: ground in the Midwest can easily fetch $9,000/acre, some less, some more. Oh, don’t forget the payments on the $500,000 combine and the $200,000 tractors and the $100,000 semi trucks. Also, the $200+/acre rent for the ground he doesn’t own. Not to mention the seed, fertilizer, fuel, etc that for some reason the farmer has to pay for as well. Wow, these lucky rich Farmers and their $14/acre payments! Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion, but it would sure be nice if people understood the whole picture before sharing those opinions with others.
Great to see these old simple machine s at work. Good video.
My grandfather had an all crop but never had the corn head. Great setup. Thanks for the video!
Hi Antique Allis - great video, thank you for posting. I am an "Antique IHC" but I can appreciate the genius, design, and productivity of these vintage farm equipment companies that help farmers feed America and win two World Wars. I remember the excitement of going to farm machinery shows in the 60~70's when we had all these companies trying to out-do/out-perform each other. I also remember the "Snap Coupler" implement attachment system to compete with the International Harvester's "Fast Hitch" system - those were the days! Peace be with you, Ciao, L (Morningside and Starshine Farms, Inc.)
I don't believe what I just saw. Those 60+ year old machines are still out there. Simplicity in design never goes out of style. For the part time limited scale farmer these machines are all that's all that on the market for them. Hopefully they will be around for decades to come.
As long as people take care of them they will.
Robert Long wen we do not corrupt our market deliberate fault of planned obselesence we built em to last yaaaaay
Good luck finding parts for them.
I had one but didnt have the corn head. Very small but did the job for small acreage
@@johnr8476 what do you need?
Great video, Mr. Anderson, and thank you so much for filming it and uploading it for us. You did a very nice job of filming the action of the header and everything.
Thank you, my pleasure!
My granddad used an Allis Chalmers All Crop, great combine, would love to have one today, just to have it!
I love to see the vintage machinery still working.
Years ago my uncle had 2 of these AC combines with corn heads on them, We shelled 75 acres with them for several years . One of them had the AC side hitch to toe a small wagon beside it to dump on the go, Its the only one I've ever seen to have one on it and it worked pretty good . Glad to see this old girl out there still running. Thanks for posting this video on here. Bandit
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just love old farm machines ....can't get enough
..its just cool to me
Old school that is the equipment we use to work great to see it still working.
Nostalgia and the good ole days, if you were able to talk to my dad he would have told you that the old equipment was not that great he always said if we were doing it like we did fifty years ago not many would do it. It was hard backbreaking work..
Very cool video. I had a model 66 which I just sold to a friend this past summer. I hadn't used it in about 7 years and it had been sitting outside so I thought it was better to sell it to someone who would use it. Turns out that the floor of the cylinder chamber was rotten out - I had no idea. I never had a corn head for mine. Although I'm an Oliver guy, it's cool to see this machine pulled with an AC tractor.
I recall Dad using one. Good video!
Wow! A corn head & cylinder tach! You're a lucky man. I passed up on a 66 with the tach ages ago, as I didn't know anything about it at the time. Still kicking myself for that one. Would love to find a setup like yours, but they didn't make a lot of those corn heads.
I see you have a bunch of All-Crop videos. I'll be checking them out & you have a new subscriber. Regards.
Thanks for sharing. I did not know there was a corn head for these old Allis's. I don't remember it being that hard to stay on a row. Find a spot to drive your tractor's front tires down and stick with it. Look back just once and a while to see if the combine is still following you. We had a pull type picker. This setup would take some getting used to though with the head being on the left hand side of the tractor. Full watch and like.
Gawd you just took me back about 50+ years,,, they were good days,, we didnt think so then but now I know they were good days,, and the sweat and hurting never hurt us a bit
Lord I miss them days bad if we weren't in the fields which we always were for some reason we raised hogs farrow to finish that alone is work pal trust me
I love the video I have never seen one work my grandpap had a one seting around
Thanks for The video
Great job !!!!
Im going to check out all your other video’s 👍🏻🙌🏻
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Amazing a corn head is on there. No many pull types with those. It was handling some pretty heavy corn too!
About 195 bu corn
Combine performed very well.
The head had 2 issues.
1st the corn was planted on 30" rows and the head is a 38", because of this the stalks get pushed to the outside and drop ears on the ground.
2nd was that the newer variety of corn is much taller now and the apron could not move the trash away fast enough and I had to slow down or stop so it could clean out.
Thats true but when that happened it made it nice to hunt birds and bunnies in the fields
We have a 60 All Crop we combine fescue seed with about every 2-3 years.
the real problem was he is constantly oversteering not following the rows
Do you still have this all crop with a 2 row corn head
Yes I do!
all the noises of the tractor and combine seems to relax me, like a past life as a farmer , our ancestors would hear these noises
Excellent video Dennis, excellent.
Thank You
Ни хуя себе!
to me its just simply fasinatinty to watch old farm stuff work
WOW! I'm stunned...God help this country...to regain its roots.
Just used mine yesterday. So tomorrow I will repaint it.
Thanks for posting this great video, will you be picking corn with the matching row spacing?
Yes I will! I plan on using the All-Crop to combine and a one row picker as well.
Honestly that's the rarest Allis-Chalmers I've ever seen I've seen them all with the platform head but never with corn head
very nice video gotta love the old Orange
Thank you and thanks for watching.
Nice set up. Don't see very many all crops with corn heads on them. Where in Illinois you from? I live near Geneseo and about 3 miles from Antique Engine and Tractor Association show grounds. I would love to see that outfit working there sometime.
We live near Ridott which is 25 miles west of Rockford.
@@The1952caallis Your videos are really fascinating. Ive ridden through ridott on a bike along maybe an old rail grade that used to go through there? from freeport heading towards rockford. love that landscape in that area.
Nice video
Is shelling the corn very hard on the cylinder bars on that combine?
No, the bars can handle he corn well but the concave needs more support.
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What is the gauge for that I saw on one of your shots?
It's a tach that shows the cylinder speed.
I want one! Never saw a corn head on a pull type combine before. Probably no one else did that.
Allis made about 1200 corn heads for the All-Crop Harvesters. They didn't sale very well mainly do to the fact that most farmers were buying the self-propelled combines by that time. Most of the heads were cut up in the warehouse for scrap. I know of only 5 All-Crops with corn heads.
1050 only
I used mine yesterday.
A combine like this was designed for 80 maybe 100 bushel corn at the most. Yields have come along ways since the 1950s.
Wonderful video. Is it difficult to install the corn head? What is involved?
Hooking up the head is easy. It’s 2 bolts, a pin and PTO shaft. The harder part is getting the base combine ready for the head. The concave needs to be thicker and reinforced. The cylinder bars are also thicker and larger size. Lots of extra brackets and bracing to support the extremely heavier head over the small grain head. A lot of drilling bolt holes a some welding. Long story short is you just cannot through a corn head on and expect it to last. It took me about a week of working on the combine before it was ready to hookup the head.
Do you find this type of combine collects more of the grain then the new combines? There seems to be a lot of new grain growing in the fields after the combine is gone today.
The All-Crop Harvesters were designed and built when the farmers harvested seed for the seed companies. So the All-Crops supplied a near perfect grain sample with little to no loss of grain. They still do a better job than the newer combines.
The All-Crops were built to produce a good quality grain sample, not mass quantities. That’s the trade off.
What model AC tractor was that pulling the combine? Good video, great combine.
The tractor is a D-14.
Thanks. I don't think I have ever seen one before. We had a WD-45 and a D-17 when I was growing up on the farm.
If the rows where spaced better to fit the harvester, what percentage do you think this machine could pick?
No ears tumbled down out of the head and no shelled corn was lost out the back and no corn was left on the cobs. The only time we seen any ear loss was when the stalks were flung outward. So that being the case I would say it could get 99%-100%.
the row spacing wasn't the problem he is constantly over steering
@@joescheller6680 -- Sheesh, Joe. So far that is the THIRD time I have seen you say that in the comments on this video. Give Mr. Anderson a break, and enjoy the video for what it is instead of nitpicking it, and be thankful that Mr. Anderson filmed it and put the video up here for us to enjoy.
Proof that Allis was and still is the best. No combine today has that type of efficiency, not even Gleaner.
So I guess delete it. If it bothers you that much. My phone has been acting goofy cutting my post off so maybe in retyping got posted more than once.
How dry does the con need to be to pick and thrash and do you need a dryer afterwards?
Logan Nye , usually when it’s time to combine corn the moisture of the corn is in the low 20%-15%. Yes most of the time the corn needs to be dried down for storage.
We cut corn with a new idea mounted on a d 19 with a sheller unit pulling a gravity flow wagon.man I miss hauling corn really bad
Wish I had a thousand acres to farm like that
Lotta people didn't know you could put a corn head on a 66,... I didn't till a few year's ago,.... the cylinder tach was new to me,.... Allis Chalmer's did stuff like that.......
Is that a two bushel grain tank.. Lol things sure have came a long way
the grain tank is 18 bushel.
20 bu or 25 tops
Is that a 60 or 66 model? I cannot tell. Kudos on this video by the way.
It would be a #60 All-Crop
Cool. UA-cam on Dennis anderson.
Is a one or two row?
It is a 2 row Combine,
Wonder what this corn was yielding and is it hybrid corn.
The yield was 180 bushels and was hybrid.
Was there anything those old things couldn't handle.? And the incredible simplicity of their design. No wonder people are on the lookout for them today. Their only drawback is that they coouldn't cut a million acres in a day
Someone once joked that an All-Crop can thresh the seeds out of a pumpkin if set right.
Good
Wish it could still all be done that way
Still can if you are willing to put in the time!
What is the waste or lost crop with that combine.
0% loss from the separator , not sure how much loss off the head as I was combining 30" rows with a 38" head. Because of this a few ears were lost as the head forced the stalks outwards.
@@The1952caallis You should have done one row at a time.
How many horsepower does a PTO need to run this.
Any 2 plow tractor which would be a 25hp tractor.
It's me or the track on the rear wheels is wrong?
You are correct, the tires needed to be out more.
I believe I'd rather have a D 17 on that 2 row head than the D 15.
Better look again, it’s a D-14.
What advantage would the D-17 have over the D-14?
@@The1952caallis My bad on the D14. The D17 has 20 more ponies under the hood. Keep the PTO RPM more consistent.
@@hubertbergen3000 that’s where I thought you maybe going. However the D-14 has about 10 horses more than needed. The governor wasn’t kicking in at all.
all the dislikes are people who own john deeres wishing they had an Allis
Well I don't know about that, but I wish UA-cam would make it so if you dislike the videos one would be forced to comment why. It's difficult to please everyone but it's harder to fix or change things when you don't know what the issues are. I'm sure some people dislike just to be negative and beat people down because of a difference of opinion, but that's their issue not mine!
@@The1952caallis I know what you mean, like I tell people on my channel, I'm ok if ya dislike as long as you tell me why you dislike in the comments so I can maybe change something, or like I always say in some of my equipment videos, do you like a voice over on what is happening or not and let me know in the comments, (although it never happens) to be honest I would not be mad if someone left a hate comment because I can work up on that to hopefully grow my channel
....And, we don't have to listen to a John Deere 2-cylinder in the background. Our "60" had a Jeep motor on it and was pulled by a Farmall F-20. The carcass is across the road in a stand of trees. RIP
I'm thinking that corn should have been planted in 36" or 42" rows.
You are correct. The corn was planted on 30" rows and the corn head is 38" rows.
I used operated the #60 on many acres, but never knew there was a corn head made for it.
Me too I was stuned, I knew the machine is anall crop but wow. as a kid growing up a farmer near us had an all crop but they used a mounted picker with no sheller.
At about 1:48 is that a 7000 parked in the background? If it is , how you like it?
Yes, it's a 7045. It is a great tractor and only 3600hrs on it.
thanks
This is a scene that will never be real again in Medina Co Tx. All the farms are being chopped up into 5- 15 acre homesites. The local irrigation company is controlled by the city of San Antonio. No more farming, no irrigation, Just greedy real estate agents, raising our taxes with each sale of land.
😞😞😞
I agree with you George, we have the same problem in our area, Beeville TX - former home of Navy's Training Air Wing Three... Peace be with you and may God save America, Ciao, L
if you stare at the corn going into the chute, it looks like a bunch of witches getting sucked inside... maybe this is why its always associated with Halloween and witchcraft
Farming would be better off if we were all Farming 360 acres and going to town on Saturday night.
You probably didn't have to run to your banker for a loan back in those days for machinery .
Looks like he's using a D fourteen instead of a D seventeen
That’s correct
I like those machines and if anyone can employ me as farm machinery operator I'll be the happiest man ever so if anybody is interested please contact me we talk
Think you would have better luck you had planted in thirty six or thirty right inch rows endstead of thirty inch rows.
You are correct. The next video will be with the correct spacing!
If he keeps riding that power selector lever, he will burn it out.
@@earlmcdaniel1607 it’s called a “power Director” and it won’t burn up by using it.
She ain't pretty, but sure gets the job done.
That allis muscle never fades
quite ovious he cant follow a row and over steering constantly otherwise a good demonstration
You are correct, I didn't take the time to set the front tread width to match the rows.
This machine was made when the land and its crops actually paid for itself and the machines used on it, unlike today, where farmers get checks from the government just for existing. Now farmers' incomes are based on the number of acres they farm instead of the crops they produce. That's why little farmers are in trouble, and big farmers buy $500,000 combines, and the small, affordable machines like these are no longer made. Don't believe me? Try $14 an acre (what the fed pays) times $5,000 acres. Mr. Big Farmer gets $70,000 of our taxes! He can afford to lose a middle class income and still live middle class, all while producing no profit from his farm! The small farmer can't lose anything, because a 200 acre farm will get only $2,800. That's socialized agriculture in America. We need to stop this farmer racket and let them earn a living based on their product and abilities, so they''ll grow something we actually want to buy (not more soybeans!) and the small farm will have a chance once again.
Amen × a million !!!!!!
I ran a Allis 60 all crop on wheat and soybeans when i was a kid. Of all the new high dollar equip i ran in the field growing up that little combine had my utmost respect.
How very well informed! Of course you’ll want to remember to account for his tax bill on those 5,000 acres if he’s lucky enough to own them outright. Or the land payments on 5,000 acres: ground in the Midwest can easily fetch $9,000/acre, some less, some more. Oh, don’t forget the payments on the $500,000 combine and the $200,000 tractors and the $100,000 semi trucks. Also, the $200+/acre rent for the ground he doesn’t own. Not to mention the seed, fertilizer, fuel, etc that for some reason the farmer has to pay for as well. Wow, these lucky rich Farmers and their $14/acre payments!
Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion, but it would sure be nice if people understood the whole picture before sharing those opinions with others.