Exactly what i needed to fill in the gaps of info I needed to complete my own diy HEADS UP DISPLAY for my knew car using an old cell phone of mine! Much appreciated!
This is a very nice video. I'm tempted to save my WiFi tablet (sim port is broken) and build it into a custom dash for a project car. Thank you for the great video
May/01/2020 - Llama app changed... but there's Automate made by LlamaLab. (Also found MacroDroid but that requires a rooted device.) In Automate I went under Community and then searched for Torque. Two good ones to choose from. I'm using a Motorola One and it's way different under settings as well, because it's a Moto and because new Android OS of course. I also bought a thin/stealth OBD2 adapter to extend the female plugin and hide the bluetooth OBD2 itself above my pedals so I don't see any blinking lights or device jetting out. Only thing I'm having trouble with is where to mount it and keep the cable neat and hidden, as well as easily visible without taking my line of vision too far from forward like you have to with that setup you have. --- This may get annoying every now and then when I run MHD tune or other OBD2 logging apps with my iPhone but eh, this is the best gauge setup I have seen for BMW's! Especially price wise. THANKS for this 4 year old video that's still holding strong!!!
Brilliant video Mate, I've been wanting to fit a boost, volt and oil temp gauges in my car for ages. But being new to all this I've not been sure how to do this on my car and didn't wanna drill and bolt dials into dash with out being sure first. This will give me all I want with out screwing a single hole in dash. Ordered my Bluetooth OBD so hope it works for my car but even if not it's a great video! 5* dude
Boosted Media I've been using the app and obd reader every day since I set it all up. I love it can see everything my car is doing. Even the exhaust temp
Thank you for your high-quality, plain-speaking video tutorial - greatly appreciated. My own priorities are tacho and shift lights. Have you any views/experience on Realdash? Or is Torque Pro the best option? Thanks again.
You can disable the lock screen from within the android settings, you don't need the second app. Where you can set the lock type (pattern, pin etc.) there is an option for none, at least on Vanilla android (I am not talking about the swipe option)
Really? That's shouldn't happen, anyways, I always root my android devices and use custom roms so I don't know what happens with the Default OS. I would suggested using Greenify to hibernate unused apps, but I am not sure how well it works unrooted.
+Atanasov Goran greenish doesn't do much but rooted. I usually compile my own custom ROMs and kernels for this type of thing to give me full control, but for the sake of the video I did it using easily available and no root required software. If you ever used "SentinelROM", that was me.
Great Video.. thank you.. but for me tried several times and dif devices.. but cant get LLama to kill Torque.. even rooted samsung s7..so got airplane mode to work but thats it... does this only work with old hardware.. or is there a better version of llama etc...? Cheers.
Hi I love your video I'm in the negotiation stage of buying a 04 maserati that needs a new dash cluster can we use realdash with you other apps to turn on and off my dash with the key like you did I'll also need blinkers to work for roadworthy check
Ive been a follower of your channel for a while, and enjoy both you and your brothers content. This years old video just popped up in my feed ....... and its just what i need 👍 Still relevant today? or would you recommend any other Apps/Devices? Perhaps an updated vid .....
Geez, the least you could have done is explained as you went along! :) great job, I don't think you missed any info. Or at least I'm shocked if anyone came away with a question :) gudday from Ireland!
Boosted Media no worries, you should do relationship counciling or something. You explain well :) make them realise where they're going wrong. But on a serious note. I'm modifying a little pocket rocket race/rally car I bought a couple of weeks ago, spied your video somehow and I think this may just be somethin I've been looking for :) light weight and very informative. I just wonder how awesome it will look with a twin engine set up :)
Boosted Media somehow I don't think you're joking :) but yes, maybe open a phone line for stressed out suicidal people to call. You could have them back to loving life in 90 seconds. Ha :)
I’m not joking. Have a watch of this.... ua-cam.com/video/khBCoNy3eRs/v-deo.html I actually seriously considered starting a men’s mental health channel at the start of the year. But decided against it because I don’t think I could handle the pressure. I do plan on doing more videos about this stuff though with the recent rebrand. Mentioned here too... ua-cam.com/video/2-r4QUpQ3ds/v-deo.html
thanks man, been wanting to do this for awhile but my previous car didnt have shit for oem sensors. installing this setup on my evo x next month after i get it re-tuned
Hi there! You have a great video here. Unfortunately is been a while since you did it and seems like llama and few apps are being discontinued since then. Looking to have this setup to my LS swap. Any recommendations what to use now or where to find those apps?
I know this video is billions of years old, wonder if you still had this set up. Im only curious what was the version # of Llama you we're running. I have access to a repository of older apps (this is in there). I'm going to decompile your version and make it work with current stuff for the culture!!!
I know this video is over a year old now, but I'm stuck on the first app instruction (Llama). I'm looking to alter the phone power config, but the new version of Llama gives me a list of profiles to set, unlike your example. There's no simple 'event' option anymore for 'power off' settings... Is there an old version of the app I should dlownoad, or am I missing something?
A well spoken useful video . Thanks I was wondering if this setup would apply to motorcycles which also have a diagnostic port ? (usually under the tank ) of course waterproofing everything must be done at a high level but after that can you see any sort of problem that might prevent me from a similar setup ?
would this work with a tablet instead of a phone? Id like bigger gauges for various items and I have an older car with a huge top center dash console that I could put a tablet in.
I tried to find the Llama app and could not find the automation version you mention, I did find one called Automate that I think was the version you installed, am I wrong on this matter? Thank you great instructional video
Does the drivers door when closed hide the OBD unit? In your demo I didn't see if you removed it after setup was done? I tried to find a HUD for my car but there's only two with an 8K red line and both are sold in Europe. :-(
so I'm non computer compatible. if I do a Ls engine swap. in to a older vehicle. use the O.E. ecm from likely a 2000-2010 Chevy truck. could I use a small android tablet as the instrument panel? with speed, tach, oil psi, H2o temp, everything you need while driving? I don't guess there's anything like this for OBD1? only OBD2 correct? I want a digital screen to replace my gauge cluster.
+James stranger yes it would work for an obd2 ecm. You'd lose your odometer though and not sure if it would be legal. There are also aftermarket dash systems available. Motec make some awesome ones. Very expensive though.
Will this work with a 1993 mustang 5.0 it doesn't have the newer version obd2 which started in 94 or 95 to resent. It has theolder style port ? My car has the stock A9L ecu and I can't find any info on using a android phone or tablet as a gauge cluster. Thanks in advance for any and and all advise.
When you're using that particular Bluetooth dongle, how responsive are the gauges. Have you tested out a speedo or tach, is it "real time" as fast and responsive as the cars own gauges?
Why would you need to connect to the OBD adaptor with two phones? I just use the gauge phone. You can have the adapter paired to two phones if you want to and just switch between them by putting the adapter back in pairing mode.
+Octavio Francisco Salcido Rocha theoretically you could use an aftermarket ECU like Haltech, Link, Motec, Megasquirt, etc just to read sensors but would be a lot cheaper to just use mechanical gauges.
I have here my 1977 ford maverick, a trailer from the mexican beer company " CARTA BLANCA" invadee the lane and crashed against my car, that caused a fire, some cables and some gauges became damaged, in mexico is very difficult to find that old gauges and usually do not work, if I try to find the gauges at california classics or some store like that, the old fashion gauges are not cheap, in the other hand I was thinking get a second hand ecu (maybe from ford escort) and use it with your system.
Ok this is really great is love to set this up in both of my cars with 2 old no longer used or registered android phones, How do I get the apps on the phones?
Yes if the battery dies you have to wait for it to boot up. However it takes 3-5 days for the battery to go flat inc standby mode with the screen off on most phones.
None at all. With the screen off, apps killed and in aircraft mode (which is all done through LLAMA), it draws jack all power while it's in standby mode.
Just to update you, with this particular phone, it takes about a week for the battery to go flat in standby mode. So basically it's not a problem unless i dont drive for a week.
when i turn off the engine, phone goes off, then i turn the car on, phone turns on, shows torque dials BUT.... torque immediately goes back to main menu... any ideas?
Works exactly as described, however, turned off the engine, ten seconds later blank screen etc... About 2 hrs later, got into the car and unit was red hot. Appears that Car launcher caused overheat alarm and caused a shut down. As part of the "power off event, I toggled car launcher off. Will see what happens.
Considering how easy it is for a thief to program a new key into a BMW when they connect to the ODB port, what protection is there with the Bluetooth? Allowing a radio connection externally could make it even easier for them? (Other makes if cars are affected also)
Genius, i've been using his method and it's insanely confortable and accurate for an old phone in my car.
Exactly what i needed to fill in the gaps of info I needed to complete my own diy HEADS UP DISPLAY for my knew car using an old cell phone of mine! Much appreciated!
You’re welcome mate. Glad it helped :)
This is a very nice video. I'm tempted to save my WiFi tablet (sim port is broken) and build it into a custom dash for a project car. Thank you for the great video
You're welcome! Glad you found it useful!
If you do that make and upload a videos on your page and let us know how it works out. I might do the tablet job to my Corvette project next year.
May/01/2020 - Llama app changed... but there's Automate made by LlamaLab. (Also found MacroDroid but that requires a rooted device.) In Automate I went under Community and then searched for Torque. Two good ones to choose from. I'm using a Motorola One and it's way different under settings as well, because it's a Moto and because new Android OS of course. I also bought a thin/stealth OBD2 adapter to extend the female plugin and hide the bluetooth OBD2 itself above my pedals so I don't see any blinking lights or device jetting out. Only thing I'm having trouble with is where to mount it and keep the cable neat and hidden, as well as easily visible without taking my line of vision too far from forward like you have to with that setup you have. --- This may get annoying every now and then when I run MHD tune or other OBD2 logging apps with my iPhone but eh, this is the best gauge setup I have seen for BMW's! Especially price wise. THANKS for this 4 year old video that's still holding strong!!!
you rock!! Thank you! My LS swapped g30 needs a new gauge setup and this is exactly what I was looking for for my tablet dash.
I just tried this with a Samsung and just couldn't get it to work 😢
Brilliant video Mate, I've been wanting to fit a boost, volt and oil temp gauges in my car for ages. But being new to all this I've not been sure how to do this on my car and didn't wanna drill and bolt dials into dash with out being sure first. This will give me all I want with out screwing a single hole in dash. Ordered my Bluetooth OBD so hope it works for my car but even if not it's a great video!
5* dude
Thanks mate. Glad it helped.
Boosted Media
I've been using the app and obd reader every day since I set it all up. I love it can see everything my car is doing. Even the exhaust temp
Does it have oil pressure for LS equipped vehicles
This answered all of my questions about making a digital ins panel. Thanks for this video!
+jasper proctor you're welcome :)
One of the best video on this topic.. I learned a lot and am installing on my fiat linea
Thanks for this vid mate, I was thinking of doing this with an old phone but was unsure off what apps to use with torque.
Nice one
My truck 12v socket is hot. So I use a 4 toggle switch box. It works like a charm. My phone is a old s6. Great video and apps 👍👍
Found this just by chance! fantastic!! thanks mate!
Great vid! You can change graph line color through the properties file btw. I believe it's "graphlinecolour=". In case you didn't want the green.
What's the name of the app?
Thank you for your high-quality, plain-speaking video tutorial - greatly appreciated. My own priorities are tacho and shift lights. Have you any views/experience on Realdash? Or is Torque Pro the best option? Thanks again.
We are living in such a great time now.
what an excellent video, have a new car on the way, have been looking at all sorts of gauge options but this is going to be perfect! thank you so much
You’re welcome mate. Glad it helped :)
Exact setup I’m trying to do! Awesome vid!
+Charlie Hippler let us know how it goes!
YES.I was just looking for something like Llama but now I found it thanks to you.
Glad you found it helpful!
I think macro android is a better app than llama
You can disable the lock screen from within the android settings, you don't need the second app.
Where you can set the lock type (pattern, pin etc.) there is an option for none, at least on Vanilla android (I am not talking about the swipe option)
+Atanasov Goran I had issues with the phone not going to sleep properly and chewing batteries when I used that method.
Really? That's shouldn't happen, anyways, I always root my android devices and use custom roms so I don't know what happens with the Default OS. I would suggested using Greenify to hibernate unused apps, but I am not sure how well it works unrooted.
+Atanasov Goran greenish doesn't do much but rooted. I usually compile my own custom ROMs and kernels for this type of thing to give me full control, but for the sake of the video I did it using easily available and no root required software.
If you ever used "SentinelROM", that was me.
I have heard of it, never used it. XDA all the way :P
Great Video.. thank you.. but for me tried several times and dif devices.. but cant get LLama to kill Torque.. even rooted samsung s7..so got airplane mode to work but thats it... does this only work with old hardware.. or is there a better version of llama etc...? Cheers.
How did u connect to the obd and the car's stereo system (both with bluetooth) at the same time?
That's really neat! A very good and informative video :3
Thanks very much. I'm glad you found it useful.
Hi I love your video I'm in the negotiation stage of buying a 04 maserati that needs a new dash cluster can we use realdash with you other apps to turn on and off my dash with the key like you did I'll also need blinkers to work for roadworthy check
Thx for all the info, even after 2 years for me it's really helpful :)
Ive been a follower of your channel for a while, and enjoy both you and your brothers content.
This years old video just popped up in my feed ....... and its just what i need 👍
Still relevant today? or would you recommend any other Apps/Devices?
Perhaps an updated vid .....
Geez, the least you could have done is explained as you went along! :) great job, I don't think you missed any info. Or at least I'm shocked if anyone came away with a question :) gudday from Ireland!
Thanks mate
Boosted Media no worries, you should do relationship counciling or something. You explain well :) make them realise where they're going wrong. But on a serious note. I'm modifying a little pocket rocket race/rally car I bought a couple of weeks ago, spied your video somehow and I think this may just be somethin I've been looking for :) light weight and very informative. I just wonder how awesome it will look with a twin engine set up :)
Haha you’re not the first person to say that. I actually do a bit of that kinda stuff on the side.
Boosted Media somehow I don't think you're joking :) but yes, maybe open a phone line for stressed out suicidal people to call. You could have them back to loving life in 90 seconds. Ha :)
I’m not joking. Have a watch of this.... ua-cam.com/video/khBCoNy3eRs/v-deo.html
I actually seriously considered starting a men’s mental health channel at the start of the year. But decided against it because I don’t think I could handle the pressure.
I do plan on doing more videos about this stuff though with the recent rebrand. Mentioned here too... ua-cam.com/video/2-r4QUpQ3ds/v-deo.html
You're a champion thanks for info about Llama etc, been looking for a simple version to do this for along time, outstanding!.
Glad it helped mate! Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment.
I don’t believe so.
Do you have a video showing how to do this with a Tablet?
It’s exactly the same. Just use a tablet instead of a phone.
Nice setup, I got a Z3 roadster, so I might rock your M theme.
no one builds nicer (then newest)digital cluster for older models 2010-2015 ,is that that hard to code?
what version of android does llama support? i can't find it at all on the playstore.
Is there software to convert old GPS devices for this sort of thing? I have an old Garmin and also a Sony NavU
thanks man, been wanting to do this for awhile but my previous car didnt have shit for oem sensors. installing this setup on my evo x next month after i get it re-tuned
You're welcome! Glad you found the video useful. Let us know how you go with your Evo :)
19:54 :1.5 inchHg vacuum idling, Valvetronic at work
How did you get the M logo installed? I'm having difficulties can you help?
Hi there! You have a great video here. Unfortunately is been a while since you did it and seems like llama and few apps are being discontinued since then. Looking to have this setup to my LS swap. Any recommendations what to use now or where to find those apps?
pity Llama is no longer available on the app store... I'm nowhere near this smart but I'm trying to figure out Macrodroid as a replacement for that.
Following yah
Any recommendations for an alternative to Llama that does not require rooting for the same startup controls?
Can you do all this on a tablet too?
Where can you find llama don't see that icon in the app store.
I know this video is billions of years old, wonder if you still had this set up. Im only curious what was the version # of Llama you we're running. I have access to a repository of older apps (this is in there). I'm going to decompile your version and make it work with current stuff for the culture!!!
I know this video is over a year old now, but I'm stuck on the first app instruction (Llama). I'm looking to alter the phone power config, but the new version of Llama gives me a list of profiles to set, unlike your example. There's no simple 'event' option anymore for 'power off' settings... Is there an old version of the app I should dlownoad, or am I missing something?
voooov, that is such a good video! thank you, thank you!
A well spoken useful video . Thanks I was wondering if this setup would apply to motorcycles which also have a diagnostic port ? (usually under the tank ) of course waterproofing everything must be done at a high level but after that can you see any sort of problem that might prevent me from a similar setup ?
+Brian Ninjutsu as long as it's a standard OBD-II compliant port then yes.
The best clip I have seen on YT. Thank you.
+Denis Vaughan you're welcome. Glad it helped.
Can't figure out how to use any other apps to do this with the llama app not available. Do you have another video on this
No sorry.
would this work with a tablet instead of a phone? Id like bigger gauges for various items and I have an older car with a huge top center dash console that I could put a tablet in.
Yep any android device.
I tried to find the Llama app and could not find the automation version you mention, I did find one called Automate that I think was the version you installed, am I wrong on this matter? Thank you great instructional video
Does the drivers door when closed hide the OBD unit?
In your demo I didn't see if you removed it after setup was done?
I tried to find a HUD for my car but there's only two with an 8K red line and both are sold in Europe. :-(
Hi I've found it very good. And I just cannot find the setting delay for 10 seconds in Llama app. Could you help me?
I'm a truck driver, do they make this for semi trucks also?
Any alternative apps for iPhone? Llama and No Lock cannot be found in iTunes app store.
Not that I’m aware of without jailbreak
How to make exact gauge theme as yours? I can't make it myself
Very informative. Thank you!
Can you make a updated video on how to to it will the upgraded version of liama
Hello mate, Cant find Llama app now, is there any other apps that have the same feature?
Cheers
Can this be done for a motorcycle?
OBD Link MX+ is the Absolute Best Bluetooth Scanner" 👍👍
what if you already have obd from insurance like metromile or team moble synup can you use it off that its bluetooth
Which gauges will be beneficial for my daily Hyundai buzz car? It only comes with tachometer, rev counter.
Cartoon Guy depends how you drive it but probably coolant and oil temp.
should OBD11 work with this?
so I'm non computer compatible. if I do a Ls engine swap. in to a older vehicle. use the O.E. ecm from likely a 2000-2010 Chevy truck. could I use a small android tablet as the instrument panel? with speed, tach, oil psi, H2o temp, everything you need while driving? I don't guess there's anything like this for OBD1? only OBD2 correct? I want a digital screen to replace my gauge cluster.
+James stranger yes it would work for an obd2 ecm. You'd lose your odometer though and not sure if it would be legal. There are also aftermarket dash systems available. Motec make some awesome ones. Very expensive though.
This is awesome thanks. The No lock app doesn’t work for me. The lock screen is still there when I power on. Any suggestions?
Does it have a oil pressure reading?
G'day mate, thanks for your effort nice vid.
Will this work with a 1993 mustang 5.0 it doesn't have the newer version obd2 which started in 94 or 95 to resent. It has theolder style port ? My car has the stock A9L ecu and I can't find any info on using a android phone or tablet as a gauge cluster. Thanks in advance for any and and all advise.
Sorry. No it won’t work.
my first car had a turbo gauge (r5 turbo) almost no cars show's it anymore still it a good and very useful gauge
That's pretty good. How about auto dimming?
What is the biggest difference between this and the BlueDriver, can you also use this application with the BlueDriver?
Great video mate ! Cheers!
Nice video 👌👍
I am unable to find the "llama" app on the Google Play Store. There are 79 apps with llama in the name. Is it still available?
its unavailable now but u can use an app called "automate" its made by LlamaLab
i have a mega squirt ....its a standalone ECU ...would a serial port blue tooth adapter work ???
use shadow dash ms
can you show us for the brz and how would you go about mounting it? i have a brz as well. but i don't gauges
+FAINTEN17 I don't have the BRZ anymore but I know a lot of people who mount to the passenger side plastic panel on the dash.
When you're using that particular Bluetooth dongle, how responsive are the gauges. Have you tested out a speedo or tach, is it "real time" as fast and responsive as the cars own gauges?
There’s a very slight delay. I’d say maybe 50ms. This particular dongle is quite old now though. I’d recommend getting a KIWI3
Can you dim it externally? i want to use two phones for tach and speed. thanks. not too familiar with androids but do they have auto dim like iPhones?
Yep. The screen can be dimmed manually or depending on ambient light. You can even set it to dim when it receives power if you want.
The problem is when one phone is using the Bluetooth to the obd adapter the other phone won't be able to see it and connect to it...
Why would you need to connect to the OBD adaptor with two phones? I just use the gauge phone.
You can have the adapter paired to two phones if you want to and just switch between them by putting the adapter back in pairing mode.
I own a 1969 Camaro and was thinking of setting the 2 phones (RPM and Speed) behind the stock bezels.
This setup only works with modern cars with OBD2 diagnostics. You’ll need an aftermarket ECU for this to work.
Hi!, is possible to use a second hand ecu? and some hooked up sensors so, this systems may be used in an old, old, old mustang???
+Octavio Francisco Salcido Rocha theoretically you could use an aftermarket ECU like Haltech, Link, Motec, Megasquirt, etc just to read sensors but would be a lot cheaper to just use mechanical gauges.
I have here my 1977 ford maverick, a trailer from the mexican beer company " CARTA BLANCA" invadee the lane and crashed against my car, that caused a fire, some cables and some gauges became damaged, in mexico is very difficult to find that old gauges and usually do not work, if I try to find the gauges at california classics or some store like that, the old fashion gauges are not cheap, in the other hand I was thinking get a second hand ecu (maybe from ford escort) and use it with your system.
excellent idea for the upcoming tesla model 3 lack of dash guages
+T.I. Managi will be very interested to see what sort of data you can get or of an EV.
Can you put a tachometer on that app? And would a Kindle fire had work? Thanks
i think you can do almost anything. even speed, rpm, tac and more
What is OBD? and its full form
Ok this is really great is love to set this up in both of my cars with 2 old no longer used or registered android phones, How do I get the apps on the phones?
Just connect them to WIFI
What's the app we need?
Llama
so you jzt leeve the phone in the car? wat if the battery dies? wouldn't i have to wait for the whole bootup to complete?
Yes if the battery dies you have to wait for it to boot up. However it takes 3-5 days for the battery to go flat inc standby mode with the screen off on most phones.
Where did find the llama app
Very old video. It doesn’t seem to exist anymore unfortunately.
Hai im from New Zealand, are you able to post up the apps used in the video in your description?
Do you think that the bluethooth adapter could work with a motobike?
I believe most bikes these days support OBD2
Great video . Thanks 👍
Have you had any issues with the battery draining in standby when you leave the phone in the car for a long period of time?
None at all. With the screen off, apps killed and in aircraft mode (which is all done through LLAMA), it draws jack all power while it's in standby mode.
Just to update you, with this particular phone, it takes about a week for the battery to go flat in standby mode. So basically it's not a problem unless i dont drive for a week.
What app you use brother
Will this work On a 2005 Mitsubishi Lancer oz rally ?
when i turn off the engine, phone goes off, then i turn the car on, phone turns on, shows torque dials BUT.... torque immediately goes back to main menu... any ideas?
can I get a link to where I can buy the obd link MX
Very knowledgeable, thank you sir.
Can you used the new FIXD OBD reader for this?
does the app just lock the screen or power off the phone..when the power is unplugged
...????
Hi great video. Could you show how do this but for making your old phone into a touch screen to control an Android head unit?
Works exactly as described, however, turned off the engine, ten seconds later blank screen etc... About 2 hrs later, got into the car and unit was red hot. Appears that Car launcher caused overheat alarm and caused a shut down. As part of the "power off event, I toggled car launcher off. Will see what happens.
Considering how easy it is for a thief to program a new key into a BMW when they connect to the ODB port, what protection is there with the Bluetooth? Allowing a radio connection externally could make it even easier for them? (Other makes if cars are affected also)
+blackdatto the ignition needs to be running and the device physically put in pairing mode for someone to connect to it
Does the torque sensor that you plug into the OBD 2 turn off with the car?
+steve71 the one I have detects when it's not in use and turns itself off. Others stay on all the time.
great vid mate, thanks for all the info. cheers
You’re welcome :)
How accurate is the speedo? Looking to mount phone over my mph speedo while overseas for kmh.
Capt America no issues with accuracy at all. You can even use gps for the speedo if you want.
thanks, Im trying to stay away from using data (internet) on the phone, and pulling all the straight from the ECU. thanks again
GPS speedometer apps dont use any data. :)
Also the no lock app is now unavailable. What app do you recommend?