Are Christian Women “Birthing Machines”?
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- Опубліковано 7 тра 2024
- Over the past few weeks we have seen protests erupt over college campuses and controversies spark over whether or not Christians should have lots of babies. Christians wring their digital hands on social media and bemoan the fact that these situations are so convoluted that we cannot come to any conclusions. This is a foil, however. In reality, when the church cannot come to conclusions about the issues of our day, it shows that we have lost the criteria to make judgments and decisions. In order to remedy this, we need to recapture the doctrine that God created everything with a purpose in mind, and we need the courage to insist that our nation accomplish these purposes.
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@@lewislibre We did. Pastor Joel was kind enough to be interviewed on my channel.
The Teleology of children.
Psalm 102
For the Lord builds up Zion;
he appears in his glory;
he regards the prayer of the destitute
and does not despise their prayer.
Let this be recorded for a generation to come,
so that a people yet to be created may praise the Lord:
.....
Of old you laid the foundation of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of your hands.
They will perish, but you will remain;
they will all wear out like a garment.
You will change them like a robe, and they will pass away,
but you are the same, and your years have no end.
The children of your servants shall dwell secure;
their offspring shall be established before you.
What if you can’t have kids? And miscarriages are causing physical harm? What is the wife role?
I have watched a ton of these. I would love to hear how you can follow God without kids.
My first thoughts are submit and respect husband also adoption , and visit orphans and widow
They addressed that in the piece from around 27 minutes and forward. "...and God seems to be saying you can't first of all be fruitful multiply and exercise dominion without a proper helpmate... So even if a couple cannot procreate, they can exercise dominion. And that's best done as a pair.
Would you guys consider doing a episode on the difference of the spirit and the soul and the body?
Very interesting topic. It’s something I’ve actually been thinking about, but still am doing some more research.
31:00 "We've replaced purpose with pleasure."
Yes! I've been saying this for a long time. This is exactly why it's become so hard to defend the sanctity of sex within marriage between a man and a woman. And it really has become very much embraced by Christians.
Does Bavink have a particular book one should read stating God's purpose for different areas of life?
The Christian family (might be household) is a good start.
I had 4 short, easy, complication- free labors in my 30s and the first labor when I was 28 was the worst and the longest. I must just be incredibly lucky.
I believe there are seasons. A time for children and families, and then, perhaps a time to serve outside your home. Possibly part time. May God bless us to restore what God has commanded.
More ideal to work for your husband than someone else's husband. Maybe start a business. Sure there's nothing wrong with a job but "if you can gain your freedom take the opportunity" as the Bible says.
I gotta agree. I think thinking more about purpose does lead to a more faithful understanding of who we are.
I think the point of "how" each glorifying God for each gender is so important to think about!
I am intending then that younger widows are to be marrying , bearing children. 1tim5:14 Yet she shall be saved through the child bearing . 1Tim2:15
I believe there to be three purposes to sex: procreation, bonding and clarification of what we are in relation to each other.
That and sandwich makers
Doug would be so proud.
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Gotta love the insecure man 😂
Ol' Owen Strawman is up to his old tricks.
They were designed to be fruitful and fill the earth. Woman should have children and as many as you can it’s a command from Elohim.
Yes, women should have many children. But let's be honest here....how many men want to have more than two How many men, Christian or non-Christian say, "two is enough." I would say 90 percent.
@RecalledtoLife Sadly, most women also say that. And both men and women who hate the Lord's blessings are wrong.
@@RecalledtoLife I think plenty of men would want more children. But unfortunately, most women wait too long to get married. So they have less years to have children. By the time they get married, most men are old and have less energy
@@nerychristian Yes. It seems then that not only is it women who are waiting too long to get married if "by the time they get married, most men are also old and have less energy.".
@@RecalledtoLifeI’m a Christian and I’m trying to find a young wife that wants to have as many kids as we physically can.
Yes.
Great show
God didn't create me. My parents did. And it's my job to decide my purpose.
Funny how when the disciples said to Jesus that it is better not to marry, The Lord never said it is commanded to all men and women to be fruitful and multiply and have many many children much less lead with it like many in this post mill neck of Christendom do. He didn't even tell them that it is not good for man to be alone. Marriage (and family) should indeed be held in high regard as is commanded in Hebrews, but we should never go beyond the regard God gives it in his word much less make an idol of it as I fear is starting to happen. Don't forget Marriage is for this life only. We as Jesus's disciples are commanded to go forth and multiply however; by going into all the nations and make disciples. I find the parallel there to be interesting and the true multiplication God seeks from his people now.
That's because God already had given the command to Adam and Even, to be fruitful and multiply. And also to Noah. And God had also already said that it is not good that man should be alone. That's why he created Eve. And no one is making an idol of marriage. If that were true, there wouldn't be so many single people in the churches. And I find it funny how you don't complain about people spending at least 12 years of their lives preparing themselves to find a job. But no one says that Christians shouldn't spend time in school because careers are only for this life. But somehow it's wrong for Christians to make an effort to get married, even though families are more important than work
Wise comment on a nuanced issue.
@@jahnvantuttlesma8215it’s not nuanced. Get married. Have kids. Raise them in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. Send them out to do the same.
Any “nuance” comes from a desire to not follow God’s clear commands.
@@nerychristian I think you're putting words into his mouth. When did he say that it's wrong for Christians to make an effort to get married?
P.S.: in many Christian circles marriage is an idol. Culturally that's certainly not the case, but if you attend a conservative church like I do many of the singles are in some ways viewed as inconsequential.
@@jahnvantuttlesma8215 Just because you feel like others see you as inconsequential, which I doubt, doesn't mean they see marriage as an idol.
Fantastic episode here, I appreciate how you men don't hold back in fear of offending any woman or man (except from the God-man). I'm not the Supreme Judge or anything, and I never will be, but I do not doubt that what I see here is unwavering conviction. Definitely gave me a lot to chew on with this episode & I appreciate how Pastor Joel mentions the plethora of stations by every Christian man, woman, or child of all ages, sexes, social classes etc.
That's definitely true with the Evangelical androgyny pushes also & attempts to blend everyone together into some type of diluted foul smelling paste. Ive also seen suggestions by clergy members to smush all sexes & ethnicities together not just in certain Protestant sects but also Catholic & Orthodox too. Man have we really fallen in the west but I have hope & trust in the Lord. He wants us to be here now & I know have to be better for Him
That dehumanizing question is the kind an antinatalist would ask
Why is it dehumanizing? How is it different than saying men are to be providers?
@@nerychristianI thought the word “machines” was dehumanizing.
@@nerychristian Are Christian Men "Providing Machines"?
@@RecalledtoLife I think so. That's how women treat us. Like we are just there to work and pay the bills.
@@nerychristian So sorry for your situation.
I appreciate your explanation of how mid eva thinks. My husband arranged a marriage for our daughter, and people lost their minds.
Who did you marry her off to? How old was she? How old was the groom? I take it the groom was asked HIS opinion of his future bride and gave HIS stamp of approval. The bride probably not so much.
Yes. Next question.
Especially the difference in the soul and the spirit in a human body
Teeology? Teaology? Tealology? What is he saying?
Teleology. Same greek root as telescope or telephone.
Bovink?
Herman Bavinck.
God made women to complete His plan for the created order. Women are essential, in more ways than one, to humanity and what it means to be human. God is a lover of beauty and this is clearly seen in His design of women (I am a man.). God made woman to be the companion of man so that they could jointly express the Image of God.
God made women to bear children , to fear and be subject to their husband's and to be saved by God's grace.
Only after the fall, under the rule of fallen men, which is a curse in itself.
@@angelmartin7310To be clear, male headship is unquestionably present before the fall, just as is work.
@@vibeauxssxuaebiv3489 I agree, hence why Eve only fell after Adam ate. But it wasn't a curse because the man wasn't fallen, and thus there was no need to fear your husband.
Also where are you getting the idea that wives *should* fear their husband? From a verse in the ASV?
@@angelmartin7310 Ephesians 5. Women must phobos their own husband
Owen Strawman is a big Eva white knight
TLDR: yes. Yes they are.
JK. I haven’t watched it yet
What are y'alls thoughts on the fact that, in OT times, the men had lots of children, but with several wives. In the NT, I don't see women having multiple/several children recounted. Just a thought.
We do know several families with six plus children. My husband is the second oldest of 15 (Catholic parents ) I am the younger of two (protestant parents.) We have three children.
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Very, very, POOR LY DONE. SCATTERED NOT TO ANY POINT BUT TRYING TO BE A SMARTY PANTS
Owen pees sitting down
Yes they are. All the fluff from these “men” is pathetic.