What an extraordinary and inspiring bit of work. Can't even begin to wrap my head around how you did this during such a diificult period in your life. Thank you for sharing your gift with us.
Out of the gate, I admit, I clicked on this because of your lovely face and only then because of my interest in generative synthesis. Scapeshift is truly fascinating and very deep. I've been working with sequenced music since the 1980s and it was the primary reason that I took an interest in computers in the first place, struggling from the beginning to retain my own ideas as I worked against the hardware to keep the composition my own. I now realise I was probably looking down the wrong end of the telescope, because those artists who ceeded their responsibilities and went along with what the machines suggested created several generations worth of dynamic music. From Depeche Mode and Human League, through the birth of sampling and house to the forest of genres we enjoy today. Thank you for an exceptional tour. You are gorgeous and so is your work, and I love the way your joy at play lights up your face. As for my own aspirations, having invested a lot of time learning to make Ableton do, more or less, what I want it to do, I think play is my objective. Finding exciting textures and rhythmic component and sampling them into Ableton rather than making larger song structures in Scapeshift, primarily because I am a lyricist, first and foremost and I write strophic songs, however, I have started writing my own gym mix tapes and the application there is really obvious.
Hello Tim. Just got myself a copy and am already having fun with it. Love that you get quite a lot of control over what is being generated. So much better than A.I. as you are part of the creative process and not just typing in a prompt. I don't use A.I. in my music production, but will enjoy getting inspired using this great groovebox. Keep up the good work, and all the best in the future.
…but the irony is that you’ve made the perfect tool to train a model :) Amazing work man! The UX choices you made are super important to balance playfulness and expressiveness - no mean feat.
This is just BRILLIANT! You could literally perform a concert where you could build an original, amorphous sonic journey for each song of your concert. This is the future of expressive music creation and it’s fun to 😁! I would LOVE to see a series of these kinds of instruments/daws based on granular, physical modeling and a mix of other types syntheses and genres.
Even for drum sequencing this looks amazing. It looks like you took the core idea of Sloo (which I still use) and expanded upon it in every conceivable way.
This is awesome, man- love the varying degrees of choices a user can make; the depth of control and the morphing is brilliant . I could definitely see myself using this program in multiple ways.
One afternoon of play, and its been a very long time since I've enjoyed a plugin or instrument so much. Like when i first discovered Ableton 2 in the early 00s impressed
Wow amazing! Just some questions before buying :-): - Can you use your own samples - does it send midi out or something - can you export multitrack - does it host VST’s - can you make your own engines? Thanks. Glad your back with something exciting Tim!! ❤
Fantastic questions! First thing to underline is that this is built inside NI's Reaktor, so by default it can't host VSTs - The noise generator uses a selection of field recordings which I made and it's POSSIBLE to go in and load your own samples, although it's not straight forward. Load-your-own-sample engines are something I'm very excited to build though and will likely be an experiment that will find its way into Adventurers' hands in the not to distant future - Not yet but this is also high up the list of things to add soon - likewise Adventurers will be the first to know about this - Yes, you can record the multi outs from the plugin inside your DAW - Since it's Reaktor you can do anything - however the data structures right now are insanely complex. I broke my own brain trying to integrate the engines into the interface. But simplifying the data structures and making it DIYable is also high on the list, as is creating and sharing your own 'themes - There's no way to put this without it sounding like a shill, but it sounds like you're like the core type of person I would imagine becoming an Adventurer as you'll get all the latest experiments & my ear will be to the ground you tread so no doubt you'll have a hand in steering the ship too
@@timexilethanks for the detailed answer. That’s actually great that it’s made with Reaktor. I can imagine the hypercomplexity but I’m super stoked about the potential flexibility!!! Great work!
I've been looking for a way to bridge different but also similar verses and I think Scapeshift might be the tool to accomplish same. Thanks Tim, Bravo...
haha yes it was a pretty crazy build - but it's surprising how far a bit of forward planning and taking things one step at a time can get. Reaktor is super-powerful. I'd say its advantage over MaxMsp is instrument-building for use in a DAW as a plugin. Tbf if I'd had 25 years experience of Max instead of Reaktor I'd have built it in max instead
I can't find this answer anywhere - does it output MIDI that is easy to export? Like if I wanted to import the MIDI into my DAW to replace the sounds or double the track, is that easy to do?
incredible that you've managed to build this in reaktor, wow! goes to show that it's not the tools but the person using them. this reminds me of the work of william fields in the best possible way, i'm sure you've heard of him and his project FieldsOS? if not he's got some amazing talks shared on here. also funny that you release this now, i've been on a journey to build something very similar for myself ever since i've discovered FieldsOS, with things really picking up steam lately. it's always super inspiring to see others driven by the same idea and sharing what they're doing! i think algorithmic sequencing is kind of the next big frontier in music technology, and we're going to have an exciting decade ahead of us. imagine laptop improv jazz ensembles that actually make your booty shake, heh
You kind of zoned out while trying to explain it. 😛 Obviously you're thinking about a lot of stuff. Right off the bat I see something I want the tool to put a strong emphasis on: For me, and I assume many others, the benefit of tools like this is to generate useful ideas, unexpected starting points, etc. So as I watched you noodling with the kick & hat and landing on something that made sense, the first thing I would want to do at that point is LOCK those parameters. Generate a bunch of random stuff...something feels right...drill in...solo...tweak a kick/snare/bass/synth...lock each one down as I go...tweak some more...go back...unlock something...re-tweak....lock it again...ok...now I've got a starting point or an inspired idea. So, if this makes sense, could you, as you develop this further, add a "locks" page which shows all the top level parameters that with lock/unclock icons? Then I could go roll the dice again on the pattern or scene to randomize a bunch of stuff...but retain the elements I locked that I'm trying to build upon, ie to provide a way of making the chaos a little more "iterative". Does this make sense? It looks a great tool. I haven't upgraded my NI licenses in years because I moved entirely into hardware/modular over the past 5+ years, but something like this makes me want to give software a try again. THANK YOU.
Ace! There are per-engine locks already but you're definitely not the first person to request more granular per-parameter locks so this one is going right on the list for a v2.0. Some of the feature requests are quite hackable and I might try some quick experiments just to get them working. Per-parameter locks will need a rewrite and redesign though. My plan is to gather all the biggies for a version 2 then rebuild the whole thing from the ground up with a much better knowledge of what works and what doesn't and what features are needed.
I certainly think that the most interesting potential for AI in music/sound technology is to produce ''the unexpected''.Conversely the least interesting is the infatuation with instantly re-creating existing sounds and music as some sort of clever trick.This looks very interesting.
This is the coolest thing ive seen in a while. Could do with more stolen data though. Also if you could add a crypto coin to it some how that would really bring it all together nicely
Tim, have you considered creating advanced tutorial videos for Reaktor? The only proper advanced tutorial videos for Reaktor ever released seems to be the ADSR series but those are quite old.
Well if this renewed interest in Reaktor carries on - and I can find the time - then very possibly. I'll be doing more tutorials about Scapeshift for sure and that will inevitably touch on some Reaktor building basics.
Hi Tim, I got it and it sounds amazing. One question, does it require a full version of Reaktor? I got the "Player", supposedly free, but every time I load your .ens file the player switches to "Demo" and stops after 30 mins...
Some cool ideas in here. What kind of export options are there? I find when working with generative tools like this I eventually get to a point where I want to dive into the details and take full control. So separate midi output of every sound, or at least very granular bounce control.
It's built in Reaktor so is constrained by Reaktor's limitations - but you can route the multi-channel outs into your DAW in the plugin. Honestly I think the best thing about it is that you CAN dive in and tweak all the parameters very specifically. This was baked into the design philosophy from the outset. It felt kind of insane that right now you have to make a choice between tools that are really simple and get you somewhere fast and tools that are really deep and unlock precise tweakability. I think this is one of the biggest problems with AI tools - the lack of control - and the lack of attribution that comes with it. There's a lot more to say on this which I'll touch on in future videos.
@@timexile it's maybe time @nativeinstruments and @ableton collaborate. they can make some money out of your prescience. people are already asking in comments here for hardware version...it would be endgame for most groove box manufacturers, as I consider it already in this form, a final stage of making generative music. amazing work Tim thanks for answer!
What are the logistics to outputting audio streams so they can be remixed etc. I would be interested in it as an inspirotron that I could chop or sample and more
Looks good but I am still pretty miffed at how Endlesss was abandoned, so I'm going to hesitate to get into another Tim Exile software project for a while .. broke my heart that Endlesss wasn't maintained ..
Oh mate I feel you - it's heartbreaking. I find it very hard to talk about on an emotional level - and legally have to be very careful because of insolvency law. I got cancer last year. Did everything I could to save the biz but it's hard to get funding for a project when the CEO is undergoing intensive treatment for cancer with uncertain outcomes. Then I had to go for some major surgery. We had a ton of amazing people trying every avenue to keep it going but the options ran out while I was in hospital having major surgery. Insolvent liquidation was the only path. I put everything into Endlesss, hammered my health (I have no doubt the stress was the primary cause of the cancer), lost it all and now have a stack of debt that will take me a decade to clear. I put everything into it because I believed in the vision and the community. In the end the project has brought me ill health and financial ruin. I know there's an Endlesss community living on, which I'm thrilled about. So many amazing people there who I love dearly. Legally, I could end up going to jail if I get involved with anything to do with Endlesss within the next 5 years due to insolvency law. Emotionally, it's just too much to look at right now. Feels like staring into the core of Chernobyl on 26th April 1986. It's such a dark void to stare into. I don't really want to dwell on this too much online as it's really important to me to spread hope and light, however dark my world might feel to me. The world has plenty of dark voids to stare into - now and in the near future - and needs more people looking up at the stars rather than ranting about the stench of the gutter. But equally the darkness needs to be acknowledged else the hope and light is meaningless. So thanks for the opportunity to acknowledge the darkness. Now back to the hope and light. I'm alive, and through the generous support of the community I've been given an opportunity to rebuild. Scapeshift is the best thing I could imagine doing with the time and resources I had available to me. I hope to fly a big flag that says it's possible to come back from anything. And I wish the Endlesss community well. From what I hear it's thriving in its own way in a new dimension.
Is there a simple way to export each part as stems? There is going to be the need to sidechain the kick to duck the bass, etc. I like it though, even just for the mid and top end and the kick and bass I do myself. Does it have a scale mode built in that you can nominate?
If you run it as a plugin in a DAW you can route the individual stems out and record them. It has a sidechaining and multiband summing processor built in so it does its own version of bass management etc - but of course other algos are available outside your DAW and you can route it through your own using the multi outs. And yes it has scale modes so you can select your own scale. You can sequence the scales too. I'd say it's relatively rudimentary right now but it's enough to get started with. Oh it also has microtonal stuff as well.
Seems like you'd want some visual way to tell which pattern is sitting at each point in the sequence. Interesting tool, definitely a lot of effort and thought invested into it. Is the pricing intro, or planned when completely finished to be the same price? It's not my sweet spot of music style, but might be able to get enough value to give it a go.
Hi Tim. Ideas. Would it be possible to add a creative function of generating only a bar of sound of specifically chosen length (lets say of 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64,128 steps) with an option to save/export this bar as wav, so that we have a sample, and maybe also with another option to be able to directly drag it from interface to main song playlist/scene in daw as a sound/sample? This would double the attractivity of the whole project, because this would allow us to arrange our own compositions. I would too buy it after such update. Thoughts?
Amazing - so I'm starting out for now with a private Discord server for my Patreon backers but I have my eye on this situation and will be reachable here on UA-cam or socials so long as I'm not struck by lightning etc haha.
This is seriously cool. I've made crazy modules for parametric and tonal sequencing in Bitwig, but this is way more fun looking! Are there individual outputs per instrument? Either pre-FX or post-FX? It would be great if I could record individual tracks and do some nitty-gritty mixing.
great idea! sounds awesome already. the idea of this growing with midi out, and talking to external VSTs; mapping out to their parameters is exciting are your slor and sloo reaktor patches part of scapeshift?
Yes MIDI seems to be the most requested hot feature! The engines for Scapeshift are all brand new built from the ground up so have a different flavour to SLOO and SLOR
Luv the way this works, sounds great! QUESTION, do I need full Reaktor for this or will Reaktor 6 Player do the trick? (I just bought Kontakt, not the package... so need to do some sums...) Someone please let me know, Ta! 🖖👍💯🎶
Yes unfortunately this will require full fat Reaktor to run without limitations. It's on 50% off right now though - but that's still nearly double the price of Scapeshift on top of Scapeshift
Looks interesting Tim. I'll have to check it out. Get your EP off bandcamp. Where is it getting it's sounds from? Is there a huge sample bank underneath the hood ?
Ah thanks so much for picking it up! It's mostly synth engines I built, with the exception of the noise generator which is a very basic granular engine fed with some field recordings I made from my nature walks after getting out of hospital
It works with full Reaktor but only for 30 mins with no saving. I want to get it authored as a Reaktor player instrument but it's expensive and a proper faff.
Thank you - and yes I feel you - there was a small part of me that wanted to learn C++ before I built this to avoid the limitations of Reaktor - but I would have been out on the street way before I'd mastered a new language and built something. I'm planning on getting it authored as a Reaktor Player instrument at some point though
I almost bought it on your Patreon shop, but I saw in there you mentioned how well it runs on macOS devices and wondered: can I expect it to work on my Windows machine as well? I own a full license to Reaktor, but I don't normally load stuff cross platform into it, so I don't know to what extent that works.
Sooo, not really knowing about reaktor, can I load reaktor and scapeshift into ableton and then lay samples / breaks over the top of this in other channels? Looks like an insanely amazing tool but would want to add other stuff to it...
I dont shar comments on the internet but i feel compelled to say that this is, to me, the most inspiring tool for music i have seen in recent time. Very exciting ty!. I feel like this lands right on the exact line of where I need generative tools to serve. Brian Eno would be proud. Have you sent it to him yet? Also, what is top of mind for you for things you want to update or improve?
I've been fascinated by the Sonic charge microtonic and the online rating system they have to up vote and down vote generated patterns to create other generations of the patterns. If I'm understanding correctly this looks like you've built multiple synths and drums and patterns and generative type of rules for what the knobs do so a person could create morphs of these generative patterns?
Nooooo! It's definitely not obsolete - in fact quite the opposite. Your design choices will have their own flavour and that is the real essence of generative vs AI. So I would argue that in a small way Scapeshift makes your system MORE relevant. The more voices in the generative space, the better.
Seriously... You make the sickest $h!t evah.. this could completely be the future of live music if you could talk electron into building a wall of knobs for you 😂
Wouah. It looks like a new way of creating and thinking about building music over here, like you always did. I understand well? It's standalone? There is a way to export the project in .wav built in it? Do you know until when the 50% promotion will be effective or is it secret? So happy you get through your disease by the way. Take care 😉❤
Yes it's definitely a bit of a new world! It runs inside NI Reaktor so can run as standalone or as a plugin inside your DAW. The best way to get wavs out is using Reaktor's built-in wav recorder . It's not an offline bounce but it works! The 50% is available to Adventurer Patreon backers forever And thank you - it's great to be the other side of that pesky cancer and all the other mayhem!
OK it would appear this is a Reaktor Module. Hope you look into releasing it as Standalone, Clap or VST3. Looks great I just prefer to stay away from the NI cash cow
@@psyaum9903 Yeah I feel you. First port of call is seeing if I can make it sustainable as a Reaktor thing . It'll be a mammoth effort to port something like this to a standalone app. I've already lost all my wealth on one thing that didn't work out some I'm very keen not to make the same mistake again haha!
@@timexile I wish you all the success in doing so as it really does look and sound amazing. was ready to pull the trigger till i seen it was a Reaktor plug. Can you not do Clap or VST or is that the same level of risk attached to Standalone?
What an extraordinary and inspiring bit of work.
Can't even begin to wrap my head around how you did this during such a diificult period in your life.
Thank you for sharing your gift with us.
Thank you - in honesty it was the thing that got me through that difficult time
Daaaamn, I've tried building sem-generative grooveboxes using Reaktor Blocks but this is next, next level. Welcome back :D
Out of the gate, I admit, I clicked on this because of your lovely face and only then because of my interest in generative synthesis.
Scapeshift is truly fascinating and very deep. I've been working with sequenced music since the 1980s and it was the primary reason that I took an interest in computers in the first place, struggling from the beginning to retain my own ideas as I worked against the hardware to keep the composition my own. I now realise I was probably looking down the wrong end of the telescope, because those artists who ceeded their responsibilities and went along with what the machines suggested created several generations worth of dynamic music. From Depeche Mode and Human League, through the birth of sampling and house to the forest of genres we enjoy today.
Thank you for an exceptional tour. You are gorgeous and so is your work, and I love the way your joy at play lights up your face.
As for my own aspirations, having invested a lot of time learning to make Ableton do, more or less, what I want it to do, I think play is my objective. Finding exciting textures and rhythmic component and sampling them into Ableton rather than making larger song structures in Scapeshift, primarily because I am a lyricist, first and foremost and I write strophic songs, however, I have started writing my own gym mix tapes and the application there is really obvious.
Hello Tim. Just got myself a copy and am already having fun with it. Love that you get quite a lot of control over what is being generated. So much better than A.I. as you are part of the creative process and not just typing in a prompt. I don't use A.I. in my music production, but will enjoy getting inspired using this great groovebox. Keep up the good work, and all the best in the future.
Amazing, so glad you're getting so much out of it & thank you for the good wishes. I'll keep building...
Purchased today and happily experimenting away. Loving the generative goodness I am creating ☺
"it feels like how AI and music should work [...] without stealing people's data" 👏👏👏
Just a sprinking of salt...
@@timexile And a heaping helping of Dedication and patience.
love that NOT using AI is now a selling point haha. looks awesome
…but the irony is that you’ve made the perfect tool to train a model :) Amazing work man! The UX choices you made are super important to balance playfulness and expressiveness - no mean feat.
Aging like a fine wine Tim. This is amazing. Can you load your own samples into this.
I really think this guy could probably be an Einstein level scientist if he wanted to. Shockingly brilliant.
Just stay healthy, you genius man
Tim you’re an absolute legend. I was just thinking about you and your crazy tools a few days ago. I guess I felt this coming somehow.
This is just BRILLIANT! You could literally perform a concert where you could build an original, amorphous sonic journey for each song of your concert. This is the future of expressive music creation and it’s fun to 😁! I would LOVE to see a series of these kinds of instruments/daws based on granular, physical modeling and a mix of other types syntheses and genres.
Even for drum sequencing this looks amazing. It looks like you took the core idea of Sloo (which I still use) and expanded upon it in every conceivable way.
Yes they're different beasts but SLOO had a generative flavour to it which I went to town with on this
Awesome. Would love to see more videos diving into the engines and the deeper stuff, how it all works, etc.
Roger - all under way!
Months?! This didn't last even a year? That is insane, you're amazing Tim. Genius.
This is awesome, man- love the varying degrees of choices a user can make; the depth of control and the morphing is brilliant . I could definitely see myself using this program in multiple ways.
Thank you! One of the big things I wanted to achieve was instant playability AND deep tweaking
@@timexile Hell yeah!
One afternoon of play, and its been a very long time since I've enjoyed a plugin or instrument so much. Like when i first discovered Ableton 2 in the early 00s impressed
Music to my ears!
Amazing aproach, looks like a really creative tool. Reminds me of the mouth interactive album back in 2010.
YES! I've been thinking about this! Been so fascinated with generative music for a long time. This is the first time I've really dug into it.
Wow amazing!
Just some questions before buying :-):
- Can you use your own samples
- does it send midi out or something
- can you export multitrack
- does it host VST’s
- can you make your own engines?
Thanks. Glad your back with something exciting Tim!! ❤
Fantastic questions! First thing to underline is that this is built inside NI's Reaktor, so by default it can't host VSTs
- The noise generator uses a selection of field recordings which I made and it's POSSIBLE to go in and load your own samples, although it's not straight forward. Load-your-own-sample engines are something I'm very excited to build though and will likely be an experiment that will find its way into Adventurers' hands in the not to distant future
- Not yet but this is also high up the list of things to add soon - likewise Adventurers will be the first to know about this
- Yes, you can record the multi outs from the plugin inside your DAW
- Since it's Reaktor you can do anything - however the data structures right now are insanely complex. I broke my own brain trying to integrate the engines into the interface. But simplifying the data structures and making it DIYable is also high on the list, as is creating and sharing your own 'themes
- There's no way to put this without it sounding like a shill, but it sounds like you're like the core type of person I would imagine becoming an Adventurer as you'll get all the latest experiments & my ear will be to the ground you tread so no doubt you'll have a hand in steering the ship too
@@timexilethanks for the detailed answer. That’s actually great that it’s made with Reaktor. I can imagine the hypercomplexity but I’m super stoked about the potential flexibility!!! Great work!
(cool) Music generative engines with the capacity to edit every sound? I'm in. Thanks very much Tim.
Great! Glad you're as excited about that idea as I am!
Yet another visionary tool from Tim! Welcome back!
Thank you! It's great to be back. Great that Reaktor is still around and so am I haha!
I love and make generative sequencers, but this pushed the level so high !!! it's really wonderfull and amazing. congratulations.
Thank you - I love this whole design space - so much possibility!
I've been looking for a way to bridge different but also similar verses and I think Scapeshift might be the tool to accomplish same. Thanks Tim, Bravo...
Amazing work. Congrats!
That's a crazy build, man. As a MaxMsp user, Reactor looks very interesting.
haha yes it was a pretty crazy build - but it's surprising how far a bit of forward planning and taking things one step at a time can get. Reaktor is super-powerful. I'd say its advantage over MaxMsp is instrument-building for use in a DAW as a plugin. Tbf if I'd had 25 years experience of Max instead of Reaktor I'd have built it in max instead
@@timexile it's crazy, man. this device looks more like a generative DAW. Mind-blowing !
This looks amazing. Have purchased and looking forward to getting some time at the weekend to play with it.
Thank you so much for supporting! I hope you're having a ton of fun with it
@@timexilecouldn’t wait and had a play last night. So much scope for creativity. Instant classic!
You must have put a tremendous amount of work on this! Amazing work, keep it up.
Adventurer time directly after work! 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Legendary stuff sir thank you! There's already some nice extra swag in there for adventurers - 10gb of audio + all the raw generative engines
@@timexilegrabbed it.. playing with it now. Already have something incredible..
Tim Exile is a legend. Be well and prosper!
🙌🙌🙌🙌
This is genius! Also, love your honesty 14:57 :D
Ah thank you - yeah when you fail spectacularly in public it makes it easier to be honest haha
Incredible work! I definitely want to try it out. Looks like a journey through sound.
Thank you! Yeah it's quite a journey
@ I picked up Scapeshift! Having such a great time with it. Thank you for making this 🙏🏽
amazing, just got it, thank you !! glad you are back doing what you love
It's so great to be back - thank you so much for supporting - I hope you're having a ton of fun with it!
How do u get it is it a patreon subscription or can I pay a one off payment for the app?
I can't find this answer anywhere - does it output MIDI that is easy to export? Like if I wanted to import the MIDI into my DAW to replace the sounds or double the track, is that easy to do?
This is mental! Welcome back matey
Thank you John!
Wow this looks amazing, well done Tim!
Thank you so much Fancy!
Its "flesh"ed out, my god. One of your best encompassing all you done before. This is like collab with yourself and computer helping..
haha yeah it does feel like that!
incredible that you've managed to build this in reaktor, wow! goes to show that it's not the tools but the person using them.
this reminds me of the work of william fields in the best possible way, i'm sure you've heard of him and his project FieldsOS? if not he's got some amazing talks shared on here.
also funny that you release this now, i've been on a journey to build something very similar for myself ever since i've discovered FieldsOS, with things really picking up steam lately. it's always super inspiring to see others driven by the same idea and sharing what they're doing! i think algorithmic sequencing is kind of the next big frontier in music technology, and we're going to have an exciting decade ahead of us. imagine laptop improv jazz ensembles that actually make your booty shake, heh
I'll buy in coming days for sure. Already sent to mates.
Thank you so much!
This is absolutely remarkable.
Imagine this in hardware! What a beast for live performance. Could that be remotely possible?
You are a genius!!!! This is nuts…
hahah thank you - I had some 'nuts' moments in making this for sure
Amazing work. Just bought it
Thank you for supporting and I hope you're having fun with it!
Sick!!!!!! Is it Reaktor?
Yes! it is! Sticking to what I know, being an old fart who should biologically be dead now haha
Congratulations 🎉 this looks really fun and I can’t wait to dive in.
Ahhh that's a very uplifting message to read. I've met many far brighter people than me though so I'm still a good few pegs off Einstein level
You kind of zoned out while trying to explain it. 😛 Obviously you're thinking about a lot of stuff. Right off the bat I see something I want the tool to put a strong emphasis on: For me, and I assume many others, the benefit of tools like this is to generate useful ideas, unexpected starting points, etc. So as I watched you noodling with the kick & hat and landing on something that made sense, the first thing I would want to do at that point is LOCK those parameters. Generate a bunch of random stuff...something feels right...drill in...solo...tweak a kick/snare/bass/synth...lock each one down as I go...tweak some more...go back...unlock something...re-tweak....lock it again...ok...now I've got a starting point or an inspired idea. So, if this makes sense, could you, as you develop this further, add a "locks" page which shows all the top level parameters that with lock/unclock icons? Then I could go roll the dice again on the pattern or scene to randomize a bunch of stuff...but retain the elements I locked that I'm trying to build upon, ie to provide a way of making the chaos a little more "iterative". Does this make sense? It looks a great tool. I haven't upgraded my NI licenses in years because I moved entirely into hardware/modular over the past 5+ years, but something like this makes me want to give software a try again. THANK YOU.
Ace! There are per-engine locks already but you're definitely not the first person to request more granular per-parameter locks so this one is going right on the list for a v2.0. Some of the feature requests are quite hackable and I might try some quick experiments just to get them working. Per-parameter locks will need a rewrite and redesign though. My plan is to gather all the biggies for a version 2 then rebuild the whole thing from the ground up with a much better knowledge of what works and what doesn't and what features are needed.
I certainly think that the most interesting potential for AI in music/sound technology is to produce ''the unexpected''.Conversely the least interesting is the infatuation with instantly re-creating existing sounds and music as some sort of clever trick.This looks very interesting.
This is the coolest thing ive seen in a while. Could do with more stolen data though. Also if you could add a crypto coin to it some how that would really bring it all together nicely
Noted haha
Tim, have you considered creating advanced tutorial videos for Reaktor? The only proper advanced tutorial videos for Reaktor ever released seems to be the ADSR series but those are quite old.
Well if this renewed interest in Reaktor carries on - and I can find the time - then very possibly. I'll be doing more tutorials about Scapeshift for sure and that will inevitably touch on some Reaktor building basics.
The Legend returns.
What a great fanfare to return to, thank you!
Hi Tim, I got it and it sounds amazing.
One question, does it require a full version of Reaktor? I got the "Player", supposedly free, but every time I load your .ens file the player switches to "Demo" and stops after 30 mins...
Yes it does. It's on the map to get it authored for Reaktor player but this will take time.
This is astonishing!!
Tim’s back!!
He is!
Some cool ideas in here. What kind of export options are there? I find when working with generative tools like this I eventually get to a point where I want to dive into the details and take full control. So separate midi output of every sound, or at least very granular bounce control.
It's built in Reaktor so is constrained by Reaktor's limitations - but you can route the multi-channel outs into your DAW in the plugin. Honestly I think the best thing about it is that you CAN dive in and tweak all the parameters very specifically. This was baked into the design philosophy from the outset. It felt kind of insane that right now you have to make a choice between tools that are really simple and get you somewhere fast and tools that are really deep and unlock precise tweakability. I think this is one of the biggest problems with AI tools - the lack of control - and the lack of attribution that comes with it. There's a lot more to say on this which I'll touch on in future videos.
it seems it would be perfect fit with Ableton Move. almost identical UI
haha yes - Move actually appeared part way through the build process. I'd already designed the 8x4 grid so it seemed... prescient?
@@timexile it's maybe time @nativeinstruments and @ableton collaborate. they can make some money out of your prescience. people are already asking in comments here for hardware version...it would be endgame for most groove box manufacturers, as I consider it already in this form, a final stage of making generative music. amazing work Tim thanks for answer!
What are the logistics to outputting audio streams so they can be remixed etc. I would be interested in it as an inspirotron that I could chop or sample and more
Reaktor for the win. Grabbing this week for sure
Well if this doesnt inspire me back into production after a bit of a gap then nothing will !!! :-) Bloody lovely.
Well I really hope it does!
Looks good but I am still pretty miffed at how Endlesss was abandoned, so I'm going to hesitate to get into another Tim Exile software project for a while .. broke my heart that Endlesss wasn't maintained ..
Oh mate I feel you - it's heartbreaking. I find it very hard to talk about on an emotional level - and legally have to be very careful because of insolvency law. I got cancer last year. Did everything I could to save the biz but it's hard to get funding for a project when the CEO is undergoing intensive treatment for cancer with uncertain outcomes. Then I had to go for some major surgery. We had a ton of amazing people trying every avenue to keep it going but the options ran out while I was in hospital having major surgery. Insolvent liquidation was the only path. I put everything into Endlesss, hammered my health (I have no doubt the stress was the primary cause of the cancer), lost it all and now have a stack of debt that will take me a decade to clear. I put everything into it because I believed in the vision and the community. In the end the project has brought me ill health and financial ruin.
I know there's an Endlesss community living on, which I'm thrilled about. So many amazing people there who I love dearly. Legally, I could end up going to jail if I get involved with anything to do with Endlesss within the next 5 years due to insolvency law. Emotionally, it's just too much to look at right now. Feels like staring into the core of Chernobyl on 26th April 1986. It's such a dark void to stare into.
I don't really want to dwell on this too much online as it's really important to me to spread hope and light, however dark my world might feel to me. The world has plenty of dark voids to stare into - now and in the near future - and needs more people looking up at the stars rather than ranting about the stench of the gutter. But equally the darkness needs to be acknowledged else the hope and light is meaningless.
So thanks for the opportunity to acknowledge the darkness. Now back to the hope and light. I'm alive, and through the generous support of the community I've been given an opportunity to rebuild. Scapeshift is the best thing I could imagine doing with the time and resources I had available to me. I hope to fly a big flag that says it's possible to come back from anything. And I wish the Endlesss community well. From what I hear it's thriving in its own way in a new dimension.
Is there a simple way to export each part as stems? There is going to be the need to sidechain the kick to duck the bass, etc.
I like it though, even just for the mid and top end and the kick and bass I do myself.
Does it have a scale mode built in that you can nominate?
If you run it as a plugin in a DAW you can route the individual stems out and record them.
It has a sidechaining and multiband summing processor built in so it does its own version of bass management etc - but of course other algos are available outside your DAW and you can route it through your own using the multi outs.
And yes it has scale modes so you can select your own scale. You can sequence the scales too. I'd say it's relatively rudimentary right now but it's enough to get started with. Oh it also has microtonal stuff as well.
@@timexile Hey dude. How would one do this, route out the stems for example in Ableton as I can't for the life of me figure out how.
Fantastic and very happy to see you, will buy and support you!
Seems like you'd want some visual way to tell which pattern is sitting at each point in the sequence. Interesting tool, definitely a lot of effort and thought invested into it. Is the pricing intro, or planned when completely finished to be the same price? It's not my sweet spot of music style, but might be able to get enough value to give it a go.
Hi Tim. Ideas. Would it be possible to add a creative function of generating only a bar of sound of specifically chosen length (lets say of 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64,128 steps) with an option to save/export this bar as wav, so that we have a sample, and maybe also with another option to be able to directly drag it from interface to main song playlist/scene in daw as a sound/sample? This would double the attractivity of the whole project, because this would allow us to arrange our own compositions. I would too buy it after such update. Thoughts?
This looks awesome, Tim! 🙌
Loving this - very exciting. Tim, do you have a forum or platform where we can query functionality or report issues?
Amazing - so I'm starting out for now with a private Discord server for my Patreon backers but I have my eye on this situation and will be reachable here on UA-cam or socials so long as I'm not struck by lightning etc haha.
absolutely wonderful!
Thank you!
looks very cool Tim, glad to see you energised and back at it! Where are the sounds from? Samples or synthesis?
Looking good Tim!
wow Tim. Nuff respect
Thank you!
Will this be able to output midi from the modules? Or can I bust this open and add it in myself?
Most requested feature by far so yes - soon - just have to figure out how to build it without cluttering an already dense UI!
This is seriously cool. I've made crazy modules for parametric and tonal sequencing in Bitwig, but this is way more fun looking!
Are there individual outputs per instrument? Either pre-FX or post-FX? It would be great if I could record individual tracks and do some nitty-gritty mixing.
Yes - multiouts to the DAW if you run it as a plugin so nitty-gritty mix away!
Mind blowing! Exactly what version of Reaktor do we need?
🙏❤️ - you'll need Reaktor 6.5 (the latest version)
@@timexile Thank you so much!
great idea! sounds awesome already. the idea of this growing with midi out, and talking to external VSTs; mapping out to their parameters is exciting
are your slor and sloo reaktor patches part of scapeshift?
Yes MIDI seems to be the most requested hot feature! The engines for Scapeshift are all brand new built from the ground up so have a different flavour to SLOO and SLOR
Luv the way this works, sounds great! QUESTION, do I need full Reaktor for this or will Reaktor 6 Player do the trick? (I just bought Kontakt, not the package... so need to do some sums...) Someone please let me know, Ta! 🖖👍💯🎶
Yes unfortunately this will require full fat Reaktor to run without limitations. It's on 50% off right now though - but that's still nearly double the price of Scapeshift on top of Scapeshift
@@timexile any plans to bring Scapeshift out of Reaktor to a standalone or VST version?
Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in.
Love it are there any plans for a VST3 version?
Tim's BACK!!!!!
yes sir he is :D
pwwwwaaaa Tim.... Amazed by your work there...
Excellent, thank you so much!
Looks interesting Tim. I'll have to check it out. Get your EP off bandcamp.
Where is it getting it's sounds from? Is there a huge sample bank underneath the hood ?
Ah thanks so much for picking it up! It's mostly synth engines I built, with the exception of the noise generator which is a very basic granular engine fed with some field recordings I made from my nature walks after getting out of hospital
Well done !!
Thank you!
It’s been years since I’ve used NI stuff , will this work with the Reaktor player?
It works with full Reaktor but only for 30 mins with no saving. I want to get it authored as a Reaktor player instrument but it's expensive and a proper faff.
Wow, this is incredible! Too bad it requires full version of Reaktor. :( Anyway, amazing work, Tim, thank you. :)
Thank you - and yes I feel you - there was a small part of me that wanted to learn C++ before I built this to avoid the limitations of Reaktor - but I would have been out on the street way before I'd mastered a new language and built something. I'm planning on getting it authored as a Reaktor Player instrument at some point though
Keep your eye on the sales. Managed to grab the full Reaktor a few years ago for $99.
I would really like to offer some insights into how these various samples could be arranged without clashing by using visual cues.
I almost bought it on your Patreon shop, but I saw in there you mentioned how well it runs on macOS devices and wondered: can I expect it to work on my Windows machine as well? I own a full license to Reaktor, but I don't normally load stuff cross platform into it, so I don't know to what extent that works.
I have been using it on windows with 0 problems, a powerful rig, but yeah hosted in Ableton max 32 percent cpu load
@@forelight4999 Thanks! I think I'll take the plunge!
Sooo, not really knowing about reaktor, can I load reaktor and scapeshift into ableton and then lay samples / breaks over the top of this in other channels? Looks like an insanely amazing tool but would want to add other stuff to it...
Yes! You just need to run Reaktor as a plugin in Ableton then you can lay whatever you want on top of it
Oh yes! This is super cool, Tim! 🎉🎉🎉
Hi Tim. Would love to support you. How do I get this please
Thank you so much! It's up on my Patreon - the link is in the show notes
Can I use this with a midi controller? And is it for windows and OSX? Awesome work Tim, looking forward to explore this. Good that your back!
I dont shar comments on the internet but i feel compelled to say that this is, to me, the most inspiring tool for music i have seen in recent time. Very exciting ty!. I feel like this lands right on the exact line of where I need generative tools to serve. Brian Eno would be proud. Have you sent it to him yet?
Also, what is top of mind for you for things you want to update or improve?
this is really cool
amazing work!
Looks really interesting!
I've been fascinated by the Sonic charge microtonic and the online rating system they have to up vote and down vote generated patterns to create other generations of the patterns. If I'm understanding correctly this looks like you've built multiple synths and drums and patterns and generative type of rules for what the knobs do so a person could create morphs of these generative patterns?
Great... Just great... The Reaper project I've been building for like a decade to do parametric performance just became obsolete...
Nooooo! It's definitely not obsolete - in fact quite the opposite. Your design choices will have their own flavour and that is the real essence of generative vs AI. So I would argue that in a small way Scapeshift makes your system MORE relevant. The more voices in the generative space, the better.
Seriously... You make the sickest $h!t evah.. this could completely be the future of live music if you could talk electron into building a wall of knobs for you 😂
haha yeah would be great if Elektron made a Scapeshift controller!
amazing!
Wouah. It looks like a new way of creating and thinking about building music over here, like you always did.
I understand well? It's standalone?
There is a way to export the project in .wav built in it?
Do you know until when the 50% promotion will be effective or is it secret?
So happy you get through your disease by the way.
Take care 😉❤
Yes it's definitely a bit of a new world!
It runs inside NI Reaktor so can run as standalone or as a plugin inside your DAW.
The best way to get wavs out is using Reaktor's built-in wav recorder . It's not an offline bounce but it works!
The 50% is available to Adventurer Patreon backers forever
And thank you - it's great to be the other side of that pesky cancer and all the other mayhem!
Do you have Industrial sounds?
Amazing
Nice!! I just bought the full version on Patreon, but it shows a lot of stuff still locked on it. I have the full version of reactor 6.5. 1:47
is this standalone, VST or a Reaktor plugin?
OK it would appear this is a Reaktor Module.
Hope you look into releasing it as Standalone, Clap or VST3.
Looks great I just prefer to stay away from the NI cash cow
@@psyaum9903 Yeah I feel you. First port of call is seeing if I can make it sustainable as a Reaktor thing . It'll be a mammoth effort to port something like this to a standalone app. I've already lost all my wealth on one thing that didn't work out some I'm very keen not to make the same mistake again haha!
@@timexile I wish you all the success in doing so as it really does look and sound amazing.
was ready to pull the trigger till i seen it was a Reaktor plug.
Can you not do Clap or VST or is that the same level of risk attached to Standalone?
Does it work in Reaktor Player?