Junkie XL, it would be nice if you can convince Steinberg along with Hans Zimmer, to incorporate a programmable touch screen panel window inside cubase and nuendo. What remains then is only to buy a touch screen. All the best!
that's awesome...this just shows how powerful the cubase logical editor can be.... i think for home users it can be a bit daunting, especially as complex macros would need even more key commands and it's hard enough to remember them as it is, but having them assigned to labelled buttons just makes it so much more usable
junkiexlofficial Hi Tom, very nice environment indeed! If I may, I have a suggestion. While adding or subtracting 10 to a controller can work nicely, it is a better approach to "scale" the values, for example by 10% (multiplying Value 2 in the Logic Editor by 0.9 or by 1.1 instead of adding/subtracting). This way, not only do you avoid values to be cut to zero (if you subtract 10 to a passage where expression is 9 the result is no sound), but you also keep the same exact evolution of the controller, just proportionally higher or lower.
Thanks so much, Tom. After 20 years with Logic, I don't think I'll switch to Cubase, but because of your video, you inspired me to tweak my workflow. I'm loving having two iPads on my desk.
This is such a great tutorial. I am currently turning my iPad into a Cubase Controller. The feeling of pressing a button and have one library show and the rest hide with Rulers, Video and Markers all remaining at top is a great feeling! No long is going through so many channels a chore and Midi editing is becoming slick! Thanks again! Think I might have to save up for an iPad Pro though! ;)
Logic has a pretty solid remote app that I use on an iPad in my studio. It's great for adjusting the parametric EQ and for cueing the track when I'm on the other side of the room staged to play an instrument. It's also nice when I go to my friend's studio and he's in the driver seat, I can take control of the session and make modifications without use having to swap seats.
I want to thank you for making this video. It completely opened up my eyes to the possibilities of integrating Cubase with a PC touch screen or Android tablet via Touch OSC. I have a Roli Keyboard that I use extensively with note expression which I use during the performance input aspect of recording, but this video gave me the information that I needed to complete the editing functionalities that I was seeking. Kudos. And thanks again for sharing your knowledge. This was so helpful.
Do you not use any outboard(i.e. Compressor, eq, etc.) what so ever even when mixing? And do you send it to someone else to mix and master? Thanks for your videos.Love the work!
Depends on which flavour he got. It's either a standalone Touchscreen monitor with these connectors: USB type B (for Touch), VGA, 2x HDMI, GPIO, DisplayPort, Audio Line in OR ELO makes AIO devices with pc components as a kind of PC backpack for their touchscreens.
As far as I know Tom never tells us a specific touchscreen app that will do the things his does. Mark W Roberts mentioned Metagrid for iOS in his comment: big thank you for that! I knew about Lemur but wasn't sure it could do all these things easily. It can! Search UA-cam for "Lemur/Cubase Template Tutorial Video" I also plan to look at Metagrid and any other good recommendations people have.
Thanks! That's the one by Karol Obara? I knew he was working on something over a year ago but I thought he might have gotten too busy and had to abandon it. I'll definitely check that out for the home studio and use iPad-based touchscreen software when I'm travelling.
but metagrid can only be used in ipad ipad pro ,the biggest screen of ipad is 12.9 inch,but Junkie xl's screen is nearly 20,do you know why?may be he did not use ipad?
Junkie XL had the advantage of borrowing the touchscreen custom programming work of Mark Wherry, who has been a tech / programmer for Hans' for years. For the rest of us the most powerful option I can think of is using Max 7 by Cycling 74. You could create a Standalone Max patch (or many patches) and put them on any touchscreen. You could have the Max patch send MIDI signals to Cubase macros to do things. See both of the videos I referenced in my previous posts here. Those videos show that you do not need to have an app that sends keystrokes to Cubase: you can send MIDI which in turn triggers macros which send all the keystrokes. But Max might have a way to send keystrokes directly too though. Macprovideo has by far the best videos on learning Max systematically from the beginning. Some of the videos are about how Max works with Ableton but a lot of the same concepts apply to any Max patch. Max really isn't something you can learn quickly from the haphazard information I've found in other videos. You could try using Bome MIDI Translator to send keystrokes to Cubase and program your own interface using Visual Studio on Windows or an Apple dev environment on Mac. Also, Emulator 2 by Touch Innovations makes a touchscreen app for Mac and Windows but I think it's far too expensive. The main thing I've learned is that iPads have more apps that are easier to program and you can get faster results. Keep in mind that the latest version of Lemur still works on the original iPad! So you can buy cheap used iPads and inexpensive Griffin StudioConnect docking stations to keep them charged and talking to Cubase at the same time.
I just remembered there is another program (Hollyhock) that could probably be used to create a touchscreen for Cubase or another DAW. www.sensomusic.org/
Hi Tom,Can you tell as please,about your Base System Devices ,because you have HUGE Vsti and Samples library. *What Your Machine:PC or MAC (your recommendation) *RAM,CPU other..... (your recommendation) *SOUND CARD! specially very interesting (your recommendation) ----------------------------------------------- PS:and if its possible tell Zimmer main setup (PC,Sound card) TNX :)
+Erazm Klimoo This is my question as well. Tom please provide the details of your Cubase PC. I find it unimaginable that you are running 1700+ tracks. I come from the hip-hop/pop side of things where 100 tracks is considered a huge mix. Just for kicks I created 100 instances of KONTAKT on my fairly new maxed Macbook Pro. To my surprise it handled it with no problem. I'm going to try to create a scaled down version of your template concept in LOGIC PRO. I've scored and done some cues for a few films. I don't know what the hell I'm doing. Tom yours vids are giving me the education I never had. The info you are sharing is 1. incredibly generous 2. Invaluable and 3. Infinitely inspiring. Humble thanks!
yeah a simple home network can do the same thing. Computers are dirt cheap just buy 5 cheap PC, a wifi router and cable modem. The touch screen piece with Cubase is what I am interested in learning how to setup.
You can add thousands of instrument tracks to Cubase, but the trick is to have them all set to disabled in your template. You only turn on the ones you use and only they use up memory and CPU. Look for the disable/enable shortcut that you can assign in the key mapping to quickly turn patches on and off while you're composing and testing out instruments
It's an orchestral template and yes you need as many instruments track per every articulation possible and if you have many libraries you can imagine how that multiplies
Hey Tom, do you use your touch-screen also for tracking and controlling plugins (which, due to multi-touch requirement, can be done only with the help of DTouch or Raven) or only for the kind of things you have shown in the video (which can be done with DTouch, Raven, Lemur, TouchOSC, MetaGrid, ZenDaw etc.)?
Can someone explain to me what are the macros or the function called in Cubase to select the midi with different rhythm values how Junkie XL did it? 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, triplets, dotted..etc... Awesome video!
Is this touch screen software controller an VST plugin (which means it lives within the Cubase context) or is it an external software that sends commands to Cubase? Does anybody know? I'm trying to implement my own version of this just for my own use cause I'm also interested in programming :)
Update: I actually managed to build an application, in C#, just like Junkie's this weekend. Just have to buy a touch screen :). Thanks to Mark Wherry for the awesome idea! Inspiring!
What do you have in the short MIDI clips at the very beginning of every track? (I'm assuming those are MIDI clips on MIDI tracks..apologies but I'm not familiar with Cubase) Thanks Attila
which software is the touchscreen using? I achived a smaller setup with a KORG Nano Key and BOME Midi Translator Pro to trigger keyboard shortcuts. But the bigger setup would be welcome. Also there are iOS apps for doing something like this (Midi only) if anyone is interested (TouchOSC, LK)
what is that buttons on touchscreen monitor? i understood the macros about logical editor.. but how can i make and customize the buttons? is that a windows option? or the other apps ?
Anyone have touchscreen recommendations besides iPad/Android? Planar 27 inch Helium is one I found, but that appears to be just a standard PC monitor with touch, and couldn't run touchOSC etc.
should be an option to turn it on if you move your cursor to the outer top limit of your cubase window.....a drop down menu will appear.....and the same will happen on all outer window limits but each side has a different menu
i know your software named Metagrid.I contact the company they say must use ipad or pro to controll, but the largest screen of ipad is 12.9 inch,but your screen is so big.how do you get that.
But the problem is that your software is stuck in a VST plugin. For those who has only one monitor, it doesn't work. You should port your plugin to android and allow communication though LAN. Instant buy.
skills come with discipline. It's all a matter of whether or not this is something you want to invest your time in, and if it is you just have to promise yourself to keep learning.
Don’t you wish apple would give the iPad Pro the same horse power as their laptop at a more affordable price? Don’t they care about the amazing intuitive nature of that os and how much it lights up and frees people frustrated with computers and the driver / mouse key command torture /nightmare? How many shift keys and key commands is enough ? Why In 2018 isn’t Mastering an ai algorithm to do that just like any human at Bernie Grumman’s would? Your thoughts? Peace Christo 🎶🎶😃🐕👍🏻🕺🕺🕺✌🏻✌🏻🙏🙏🛸🛸👏🏻👏🏻👽👽🔦
You'd be surprise at the benchmarks of the iPad Pro vs the 13" MacBook Pro. It's quite close. Developers are a bit slow to adopt to iOS. But we see more and more plugins (FabFilter, Audio Damage) ported over to iOS.
Junkie XL, it would be nice if you can convince Steinberg along with Hans Zimmer, to incorporate a programmable touch screen panel window inside cubase and nuendo. What remains then is only to buy a touch screen. All the best!
that's awesome...this just shows how powerful the cubase logical editor can be.... i think for home users it can be a bit daunting, especially as complex macros would need even more key commands and it's hard enough to remember them as it is, but having them assigned to labelled buttons just makes it so much more usable
Dammit. This is the best series on UA-cam. Thanks so much.
junkiexlofficial Hi Tom, very nice environment indeed!
If I may, I have a suggestion. While adding or subtracting 10 to a controller can work nicely, it is a better approach to "scale" the values, for example by 10% (multiplying Value 2 in the Logic Editor by 0.9 or by 1.1 instead of adding/subtracting).
This way, not only do you avoid values to be cut to zero (if you subtract 10 to a passage where expression is 9 the result is no sound), but you also keep the same exact evolution of the controller, just proportionally higher or lower.
Hey Tom/JunkieXL.I want to tell you that you really helping so newbees like me,
Many thanks.
Thanks so much, Tom. After 20 years with Logic, I don't think I'll switch to Cubase, but because of your video, you inspired me to tweak my workflow. I'm loving having two iPads on my desk.
This is such a great tutorial. I am currently turning my iPad into a Cubase Controller. The feeling of pressing a button and have one library show and the rest hide with Rulers, Video and Markers all remaining at top is a great feeling! No long is going through so many channels a chore and Midi editing is becoming slick! Thanks again! Think I might have to save up for an iPad Pro though! ;)
Logic has a pretty solid remote app that I use on an iPad in my studio. It's great for adjusting the parametric EQ and for cueing the track when I'm on the other side of the room staged to play an instrument. It's also nice when I go to my friend's studio and he's in the driver seat, I can take control of the session and make modifications without use having to swap seats.
Yeah only when you have a fairly new iPad. Would have been a lot more useful if Logic Remote ran on older iPads...
I want to thank you for making this video. It completely opened up my eyes to the possibilities of integrating Cubase with a PC touch screen or Android tablet via Touch OSC. I have a Roli Keyboard that I use extensively with note expression which I use during the performance input aspect of recording, but this video gave me the information that I needed to complete the editing functionalities that I was seeking. Kudos. And thanks again for sharing your knowledge. This was so helpful.
Hi, could you tell more please about Touch OSC to control Cubase with an Android tablet, configuration etc... Best regards
Just unbelievably generous of you. Inspiring as are the previous videos. Thank you.
Thank you Tom, this one is particularly interesting. I believe the workflow have a huge impact on the result.
Cubase is so awesome. I hope some of these features are added to Ableton when Live 10 comes out.
Do you not use any outboard(i.e. Compressor, eq, etc.) what so ever even when mixing? And do you send it to someone else to mix and master? Thanks for your videos.Love the work!
THANK YOU SO MUCH! You are a great teacher, thank you for your time
Really amazing information how you use this touchscreen. For all the smaller projects I'm happy with my CC121 Controller and the key commands. :-)
Some good tips! Thanks !
Wow. Some amazing tips in here!
Thank you for this video! All the best!
this is amazing Tom
Thanks tom,this is great.
nice video,the brand is elo!! by the way, it is just a touchsreen moniter or a laptop,how it connect to you computer which DAW in it
Depends on which flavour he got. It's either a standalone Touchscreen monitor with these connectors: USB type B (for Touch), VGA, 2x HDMI, GPIO, DisplayPort, Audio Line in OR ELO makes AIO devices with pc components as a kind of PC backpack for their touchscreens.
Thank you Tom.
Thank you for posting this, very helpful :)
This is soo cool.
Thanks Junkie, I love watching how people set up their composing environments! Are you running Lemur on the Touch Screen?
No it's a custom program made exclusively for Hans zimmer and now remote control
I think your right, i saw a Lemur-icon on his desktop at a earlier episode
OMG, how can someone unlike any of these videos? This world is a reaaly strange place...
Great stuff !! What size is the touchscreen ?
As far as I know Tom never tells us a specific touchscreen app that will do the things his does. Mark W Roberts mentioned Metagrid for iOS in his comment: big thank you for that! I knew about Lemur but wasn't sure it could do all these things easily. It can! Search UA-cam for "Lemur/Cubase Template Tutorial Video"
I also plan to look at Metagrid and any other good recommendations people have.
Thanks! That's the one by Karol Obara? I knew he was working on something over a year ago but I thought he might have gotten too busy and had to abandon it. I'll definitely check that out for the home studio and use iPad-based touchscreen software when I'm travelling.
but metagrid can only be used in ipad ipad pro ,the biggest screen of ipad is 12.9 inch,but Junkie xl's screen is nearly 20,do you know why?may be he did not use ipad?
Junkie XL had the advantage of borrowing the touchscreen custom programming work of Mark Wherry, who has been a tech / programmer for Hans' for years.
For the rest of us the most powerful option I can think of is using Max 7 by Cycling 74. You could create a Standalone Max patch (or many patches) and put them on any touchscreen. You could have the Max patch send MIDI signals to Cubase macros to do things. See both of the videos I referenced in my previous posts here. Those videos show that you do not need to have an app that sends keystrokes to Cubase: you can send MIDI which in turn triggers macros which send all the keystrokes. But Max might have a way to send keystrokes directly too though.
Macprovideo has by far the best videos on learning Max systematically from the beginning. Some of the videos are about how Max works with Ableton but a lot of the same concepts apply to any Max patch. Max really isn't something you can learn quickly from the haphazard information I've found in other videos.
You could try using Bome MIDI Translator to send keystrokes to Cubase and program your own interface using Visual Studio on Windows or an Apple dev environment on Mac. Also, Emulator 2 by Touch Innovations makes a touchscreen app for Mac and Windows but I think it's far too expensive.
The main thing I've learned is that iPads have more apps that are easier to program and you can get faster results. Keep in mind that the latest version of Lemur still works on the original iPad! So you can buy cheap used iPads and inexpensive Griffin StudioConnect docking stations to keep them charged and talking to Cubase at the same time.
I just remembered there is another program (Hollyhock) that could probably be used to create a touchscreen for Cubase or another DAW.
www.sensomusic.org/
David McNamara I can't find metagrid
Hi Tom,Can you tell as please,about your Base System Devices ,because you have HUGE Vsti and Samples library.
*What Your Machine:PC or MAC (your recommendation)
*RAM,CPU other..... (your recommendation)
*SOUND CARD! specially very interesting (your recommendation)
-----------------------------------------------
PS:and if its possible tell Zimmer main setup (PC,Sound card)
TNX :)
+Erazm Klimoo This is my question as well. Tom please provide the details of your Cubase PC. I find it unimaginable that you are running 1700+ tracks. I come from the hip-hop/pop side of things where 100 tracks is considered a huge mix. Just for kicks I created 100 instances of KONTAKT on my fairly new maxed Macbook Pro. To my surprise it handled it with no problem. I'm going to try to create a scaled down version of your template concept in LOGIC PRO. I've scored and done some cues for a few films. I don't know what the hell I'm doing. Tom yours vids are giving me the education I never had. The info you are sharing is 1. incredibly generous 2. Invaluable and 3. Infinitely inspiring. Humble thanks!
yeah a simple home network can do the same thing. Computers are dirt cheap just buy 5 cheap PC, a wifi router and cable modem. The touch screen piece with Cubase is what I am interested in learning how to setup.
You can add thousands of instrument tracks to Cubase, but the trick is to have them all set to disabled in your template. You only turn on the ones you use and only they use up memory and CPU. Look for the disable/enable shortcut that you can assign in the key mapping to quickly turn patches on and off while you're composing and testing out instruments
Ok
2:54 HOLY SHT MY JAW DROPPED .... THOSE SO MANY TRACKS LOL !
It's an orchestral template and yes you need as many instruments track per every articulation possible and if you have many libraries you can imagine how that multiplies
hey is there any way to use Korg nanoKEY in the same way as Tom is using touch screen? How about setting up macros on different keys on nanoKEY?
yes the nanoKey that has keyboard, I want to use the keyboard keys for macros
Hey Tom, do you use your touch-screen also for tracking and controlling plugins (which, due to multi-touch requirement, can be done only with the help of DTouch or Raven) or only for the kind of things you have shown in the video (which can be done with DTouch, Raven, Lemur, TouchOSC, MetaGrid, ZenDaw etc.)?
Very heavy lesson but I love it. 👍👍👍😎
Can someone explain to me what are the macros or the function called in Cubase to select the midi with different rhythm values how Junkie XL did it? 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, triplets, dotted..etc...
Awesome video!
How can I order one of these and how much would it cost?
What kind of massive piano keyboard is that you have in your studio and what synths/analog mixers do you use?
Is this touch screen software controller an VST plugin (which means it lives within the Cubase context) or is it an external software that sends commands to Cubase? Does anybody know? I'm trying to implement my own version of this just for my own use cause I'm also interested in programming :)
Update: I actually managed to build an application, in C#, just like Junkie's this weekend. Just have to buy a touch screen :). Thanks to Mark Wherry for the awesome idea! Inspiring!
Hi Tom, can you please tell me whats the screen in the middle and its program.? Thank you :)
what's a good way to do this on a touchscreen laptop, for example, that's connected to a main production pc via ethernet or similar?
Can you provide your Cubase Key Commands preset file? It would be cool to see how the macros are set up and what macros are possible.
hahahhaa. I already asked steinberg to open a new forum for LE presets. It would come very handy for those situations.
What do you have in the short MIDI clips at the very beginning of every track? (I'm assuming those are MIDI clips on MIDI tracks..apologies but I'm not familiar with Cubase)
Thanks
Attila
probably so when he loads up that instrument, it is preset at the right MIDI CC for each parameter
which software is the touchscreen using? I achived a smaller setup with a KORG Nano Key and BOME Midi Translator Pro to trigger keyboard shortcuts. But the bigger setup would be welcome. Also there are iOS apps for doing something like this (Midi only) if anyone is interested (TouchOSC, LK)
what is that buttons on touchscreen monitor? i understood the macros about logical editor.. but how can i make and customize the buttons? is that a windows option? or the other apps ?
is it not better to use pedals then you can play with 2 hands?
do you use windows or macOS ?
Does anyone know how he has the lower monitor tilted and low like that?
cool
What program is he using with the touchscreen?
what type of keyboard is that?
Brandie Thrift ..its a Doepfer LMK4 88 MIDI KEYBOARD..
Brandie Thrift ..most all composer use that midi controller because of the controller features..its high end.
an apple keyboard :)
Anyone have touchscreen recommendations besides iPad/Android? Planar 27 inch Helium is one I found, but that appears to be just a standard PC monitor with touch, and couldn't run touchOSC etc.
www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-24-touch-monitor-p2418ht/apd/210-alcs/monitors-monitor-accessories
Combine that with Touchbase software
ELO
is this Lemur or another else software ?
Does anyone know how to get a visual summary of the project like he has at the top? (Right beneath where it sais "No object selected`")
should be an option to turn it on if you move your cursor to the outer top limit of your cubase window.....a drop down menu will appear.....and the same will happen on all outer window limits but each side has a different menu
Hi tom , what is the name of this touchscreen ???? thank you.
It's an ELO touchscreen, upside down for some reason heh. They make up to 70" touchscreens www.elotouch.com/touchscreen-signage/5502l.html
i know your software named Metagrid.I contact the company they say must use ipad or pro to controll, but the largest screen of ipad is 12.9 inch,but your screen is so big.how do you get that.
He isn't using metagrid, the program he is using was custom built by Remote Control's In House technician - Mark Wherry.
or this can do the same gumroad.com/14bitmidi ;)
But the problem is that your software is stuck in a VST plugin. For those who has only one monitor, it doesn't work. You should port your plugin to android and allow communication though LAN. Instant buy.
what the hell thats the session you work off of everytime?????
15:15 what is this key command called to reduce all the CC by 10? Awesome feature.
Andrew Poole Todd You can do it through the logic editor, save it as a preset and assign the preset to any keycommand of your choice.
Man, i wish i had skill of this guy or zirconist.
:C
skills come with discipline. It's all a matter of whether or not this is something you want to invest your time in, and if it is you just have to promise yourself to keep learning.
He uses a pc with mac peripherals why?
So... many... tracks...
Don’t you wish apple would give the iPad Pro the same horse power as their laptop at a more affordable price? Don’t they care about the amazing intuitive nature of that os and how much it lights up and frees people frustrated with computers and the driver / mouse key command torture /nightmare? How many shift keys and key commands is enough ? Why In 2018 isn’t Mastering an ai algorithm to do that just like any human at Bernie Grumman’s would? Your thoughts? Peace Christo 🎶🎶😃🐕👍🏻🕺🕺🕺✌🏻✌🏻🙏🙏🛸🛸👏🏻👏🏻👽👽🔦
You'd be surprise at the benchmarks of the iPad Pro vs the 13" MacBook Pro. It's quite close. Developers are a bit slow to adopt to iOS. But we see more and more plugins (FabFilter, Audio Damage) ported over to iOS.
"Touchcreen"
"touchcreen"