We Spent $10 On Exhaust And The 1934 Ford Tudor Sounds Like a REAL Hot Rod!!
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- If you remember back to when we first got the 265 Small Block Chevrolet running in the 1934 Ford, we were shooting acorns and rust all over the shop. The exhaust was packed full of junk, including a mouse carcass, and the exhaust sounded very muffled and dull. Today Matt plans to change that completely. Our local custom exhaust shop cut and flared short pieces of exhaust tubing. Matt plans to remove the clogged mufflers and install straight pipes as a quick fix to get the project on the road. The nice thing about the straight pipes is the can easily be removed and small mufflers can be installed to quite the exhaust. Let us know in the comments down below what you think of the sound. Is it to obnoxious? Or is it just right!!
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You should have cut the muffler in half to see what was inside would have been cool to see 👍👍👍👍👍😉
Haha good idea
Two thoughts, first, it sounds like you have a miss on a cylinder, the way it pops every couple seconds. Second, the muffler choice is one to deliberate over. That loud hotrod sound is fun, but only sometimes. If you decide to take it to a show, or event that involves a bit of a roadtrip, you'll wish for quiet and smooth. I have to agree with many here, take that car to your exhaust shop friends for a better system that routes it less haphazardly. That 34 will be a gem to drive, make the 39 your loud ass brawler car, hell, the seats are loud, the exhaust should match!😁
I think it would be more in-line with this nearly perfect car to have glasspacks.
My Grandfather had made a chisel for separating exahust joints, he ground a half moon shape in the end of an old flat chisel and re heat treated the end, works great, you can use it to "peal" away the outer pipe flange without ruining the inner pipe.
Not a bad idea!!
Of course it is going to be louder in the shop. Out on the road, you are going to be golden.
You are lucky about the inspection not being required. My memory of 55 plus years ago is that dad had more problems with the inspection process once he put antique plates on them. The big problems were finding mufflers to fit.
I ran open lake pipes on a 406” small block with a fairly rowdy cam. It was fine cruising but when you hammered it it sounded like the world was coming to an end! It was awesome lol
Thats how the T sounds!!
I'd be interested in seeing inside those old mufflers too! Not only to see how blocked up they are but also the way they were baffled internally. Pretty long and narrow. Might be a useful muffler for some cars that have limited underbody room for "normal" mufflers...but require more sound control than simple glass packs. Wonder what they were originally designed to fit? Guess that part we will never really know...
I agree with some of the viewers, I would put some packs on for no other reason than the droning if you do hiwy driving
Hey Matt,
You never struck me as someone who is, "a couple wheel cylinders short of a brake job".
But I only know you from your videos.
She's looking, and sounding, great.
After redoing three cars in the last year we have run out!!
That sounds great Matt. Beethoven couldn’t improve on that. I love seeing the 34 again.
Sounds good on camera!
GREAT JOB MATT!!!!! ......I LIKE IT!
you will know once you drive it .thanks Matt!!!!!!!!!!1
You will have to get a cleaning care kit for the carb, clean it and then get it set up right for the engine, and then it will sound smoother at idle and when you rev it.
Looks and sounds great
As the rears are going underneath the axle there may always be a risk that the extreme suspension movement will tear out the mounts (probably at the most inoportune moment!) had you considered having the exhaust tails exiting ahead of the rear wheels on each side? That would help with excess noise as it would be on each side rather than all at the back, makes the pipes shorter, which can't be a bad thing! Just a thought!
It was fine for all the miles Barry put on it in the 60’s... I’m sure it’ll be fine for me.
Sounds sweet to me ! I have said it before and I will say it again ! I usually don't like red but I love that car like it is !
Always takes more time to remove the old exhaust system then to install the new one.
it is a good sound. Just like the hot rods in Yuma Az.
Exhaust sounds great but will be even better with a Edlebrock 2102 Performance Plus Cam and lifter kit for 181.95 on Amazon.
We will probably hop things up a bit after we get it road worthy. That’s stage two!
@@IronTrapGarage dont hop it up too much, still got stock axle. It's a cruizer, not a burnout car
Thank you for the update ! Take care , stay safe and healthy there in Pennsylvania ! Doing well here in Kansas .
now that you have it almost streetable and given that the engine is a stock "cheby", ick, it would be a good time to start bringing together the parts, from your "stores" and build, over time, a gussied up Flat Motor with a nice set of heads, maybe even Arduns, a ported block, relieved if flathead config., a ported 4 pot manifold and as much chrome as you can stand. Then get that "cheby" out of there.
Can’t wait for the old owner to finally be able to see it and drive around in it again. Lots of engine noise, could be just the camera tho. Seems like the engine noise is louder than the exhaust when up front. Could be bad water pump/alternator bearings?
sounds just right.
Sounds brilliant to me matt
The real test will be on the road, but loud does get annoying after a while. I'd start looking at what I wanted for mufflers.
Man what would we do without saw alls
Sorry to say Matt but i've had cars with loud exhausts and it sounds great for a while then it just gets annoying. You cant hear the stereo. been there bought that tee shirt. LOL take care .
I don’t put stereos in my car.
@@IronTrapGarage LOL I know you love the roar of the engine Matt . Brm! Brm!
I have watching your channel for about two years now. You are an exceptional fabricator and welder. But for the life of me I can’t understand why you have to to follow that old cheap A?? way of doing that configuration of exhaust style on that ‘34. A suggestion would be glasspacks and four U Bends to take that exhaust over the differential.
It would be flow masters for me. That is to loud for my taste. You need some back pressure to cool the exhaust valves , with straight exhaust it will burn the seats.
The exhaust is so long that isn’t really an issue. Maybe if the headers were super short and no exhaust.
I think the style of the car and honoring the original build just says:
mufflers Smithy’s or something similar. A crossover and reroute over the rear axle will also be money well spent. Agree with the other comment about taking your wife for a ride she will give you the final word on the noise level. ( As much as we would not care to admit it we are not 16 anymore)
a better tell would be outside but for a classic sound fit the longest glasspacks you can manage. smitty's if you wanna spend the cash. also, are ya still going to drop the noes a bit?
This winter we will doing some messing around with the ride height. right now i wanna drive it!
I would get some old red CHERRY BOMBS for it. They sound awesome.
Sounds good leave it like that
Does PA still have a vehicle inspection program and if so, will that exhaust systems the standards? At the same time, do you need a working windshield wiper system?
In Pa., cars with antique plates don't need state inspection.
What tom said. With antique plates you dont need a state inspection, but you are only allowed to drive so many miles and limited to no night time driving. those are very rarely enforced.
Where did you find those safety glasses? I have a couple pairs that were my grandpas who was in his 80’s when he passed. Those were one of the things I remember being a kid in his garage. So I had to grab them. Are yours vintage or new?
Vintage. I buy them at swap meets and estate sales
To drive in Pennsylvania, will the exhaust system pass state inspection without mufflers, Matt? Cars looking real good though! JP Jr.
No inspection or emissions for an antique plated car
@@IronTrapGarage Thank you Matt for clarifying that for me. I assumed that was the case but wasn't quite sure. Car is looking real good! :) :) JP JR.
How Do You Get These Vehicles to Pass The DMV Emmision Tests ??
Except for possibly the West coast, most states have a cut off point, and all of Mat's cars are far older than that. Generally older than around 1970.
No emissions for pre 75 but if you run antique tags you dont need inspection either
Potato-Potato-Potato-Potato
Watch out for that exhaust pipe that would fall on you.
Sounds very trailer parkish. It sounds like a old stock motor with a hacked exhaust. Put a comp cams h268, nice little vintage 4gc carb setup, keep the iron manifolds, a nice set of dynomax bullets, it will have a nice sound, pull good for a little motor, probably even get a little better gas mileage
Perfect
Definitely needs some glass packs.
P.S. Really can't access it for it wasn't driven. I didn't much of anything except a couple of burbles.
let's see how well you know the town cops..
It’s hardly that loud. Harleys are much louder that ride around daily.
It sounds mean but in my own experience it's always better to have mufflers. The exhaust drone is annoying and this car is basically a cruiser .
Time to sneak it around the block with the old nylons and all. they will go around the block.
Once the brakes are fixed!
Oh LOOK! Based on your reply the majority of your fans are TOO OLD. That would be me too.
Cherry bomb's
Sounds like crap,wish for quiet and smooth.
Oh brother, kid stuff straight pipes , no good, you will get ear burn and feed up with that silly crap reeeeeeal quick !. As I have gotten older I found the quieter the better on all my old cars with lots of bends in pipes. Plus I always use the Walker turbo IIs or a set of original type Mopar Hemi reproduction mufflers they sell now as free flowing quiet mufflers are clearly king when your on the road. History shows glass packs become straight pipes in a matter of weeks ! shut that sucker up as I hope you don't like carrying on a conversation with anybody ( wife ) while driving because that will become a yelling match at 50mph ! WHAAAAAT YOU SAY ??????
It’s a hot rod. It’s supposed to be loud. If it’s too loud for you you’re just too old. That’s the saying the old racers say to me.
@@IronTrapGarage Lol, well, fact is I don't need to defend my opinion , we will see what you think after your first few long trips. At 18 I had glass packs on my GTO for about 2 weeks , and brother I got very tired of all that noise reeeeeeeal quick. Much more livable ( and impressive ) with quiet exhaust. Like they say , live & learn. There is a time honored saying, you don't get old being stupid . :)
Sounds too loud and silly. Find some classic glass packs!
If it’s too loud you’re too old.
@@IronTrapGarage This message has been bought to by AARP! lol
It sounds better, but I think some glass packs are in your future. Easy enough, when the time comes.👍
A pair of Smitty’s would be period correct👍
That ride is too classy to be obnoxious. Time will tell, but I'd probably throw a pair of Thrushes on it for that throaty growl you seek.
I think a set of the Thrush welded mufflers would sound good on it but header mufflers would sound good as well.
I agree with the welded thrush, I have them on 3 different vehicles and gonna put some on my F250
Could also run a balance pipe between the pipes. Take the harshness out.
Yes, the balance pipe will make a difference, and not add restriction.
Heat the pipes up with the oxy. They usually just twist off.
Needs mufflers, sounds like crap.
Agreed
Sounds like a muffler ticket!
Yeah Elwood, that's not quiet at all.
Maybe it needs glasspacks but I can't really tell from how it sounds inside the garage. What it sounds like driving down the road is what matters.
Cherrybomb glass packs, I've got some 26" long on my 63 Merc and they sound great.
Needs a pair of “Smitty’s” to period correct...looks great!
my vote too.
Hey Matt,
Since you have access to the muffler guys, I would say re-route the pipes above the rear end parts.
Back in the day we did the straight pipes mostly because the muffler shop was too expensive to install muffers, bend and hang the pipes.
And we had bragging rights to " We did it our selves".
Shorty glass packs will be quiet for the first few miles but then they burn out and you have straight pipes again.
An equalizer pipe and turbo mufflers will still sound good when you rev it but you won't have that loud droning on the highway.
BUT, First it needs BRAKES !
Then a test ride with Kate holding the cam so we can get her take on it.
Then decide what to do with the pipes, which by the way are already done !
Thanx fur taking us along on your adventures in hot rodding.
Be safe and well
Live long and prosper
Put a H pipe on it. It will mellow out the sound and not sound like a school bus. Look into small chambered mufflers or resonators that were used on earlier cars also.
15:56 Oh yes it will.
At idle it reminds me of my Dad's 67' Chris Craft with a 283. Needs Hollywood mufflers.
I think you’ll be happier with glass packs once you get it up on freeway, it will drone too without
Needs to be outside to get a proper idea of noise rather than it bouncing around the workshop.
agreed.
"Couple of wheel cylinders short" - story of my life. Keep up the great work and thanks again for the videos!
"Couple of wheel cylinders short" of a brake job, sounds like an 'his elevator doesn't go all the way to the top floor' kind of put-down.
Hey Matt, your exhaust repair will be just fine for now, when the noise starts getting on your nerves you can change it then. Didn't they use Smitty mufflers back in the day? One of your followers mentioned a balance tube or "H" pipe...great idea... Thanks for the video, looking forward to the next. Build on Dudes!!
hi matt great video today stay safe down by you guys
Those old mufflers would be great to run through a bandsaw to see what the internals look like. Back in the day that hot rod was built we would have put "smithys glasspacks" on them. Let the glass burn off but still be legal where I lived. Straight pipes would have got me in some bigtime 1962/3 trouble with the local Pulease (pulease officer, my dad will kill me if I get another ticket) force. Regards, Solomon
Matt, if you decide that mufflers would be beneficial, check out Porter Mufflers. Nothing sounds sweeter. The mufflers have been around since the 30's.
It is Just loud enough to Irritate the neighbors if you really floored it through the gears and was being a hot rodder LOL
Hey Matt back when I was a kid we all ran straight pipes when we could, Nothing like the sound coming off a set of headers into straight pipes.
Leave it. I have straight lake pipes on my c10 w a 350 and it sounds awesome.
Love hearing the startup. Please make more cold starts! Also cool to see how you start it with the door open like that.
I think it sounds good. Maybe when you get outside it will sound better. But it does sound good.
No fun! I hate working on old exhaust! Sounds good at idle but I have a feeling it's going to get old quick.
Sounds like a stock Motor with straight pipes , I think it Needs more initial timing
The carb also needs a rebuild. Probably doesn’t help
You gotta love layin pipe straight.
Just right!
I would add some cherry bomb glass packs. They were the rage in the 70's and 80's. Had a pair on my '56 ford p/u. and they are red. great job.
Now you have a car that sounds like it is a hot rod. That's what a real HOT car is suppose to sound like. Just like it's suppose to sound like. Nothing like straight pipes for letting people know you are coming and good for the power.
Yep! It’s quiet at idle and only loud when you get on it so I think it will be just fine. The exhaust being all the way out the back also helps too
wow $10 way over my budget
When you do the master cyl make sure its a duel cyl for safety & not single. Single master cyls are a car crash looking for a place to happen.
I run single master on all my old cars,even ones with disc brakes. All new lines & wheel cyls. you wont have a problem. Some old cars,like mopars,have the pedals on the master. Makes it hard to convert with out major surgery
no mufflers is the way to go for a old school hot rods,
If the neighbors complain, it's just right!
Haha yessss
Personally I think it needs a pair of cherry bombs or hush thrushes. Mega flow also makes some very nice sounding mufflers. I also would do an up and over the rear axle just so the tips are not dragging on the ground or the pipes banging on the differential housing. Nobody I ever knew installed a set of exhaust like what your's has. Mega primitive I'd say.
Flames would be nice.
Early '60's Hot Rod... I'm thinkin' some Smittys or Douglas glass packs and some old school cheap Hedman Headers. Then you'll get "that sound" without getting a headache. You didn't mention what tires you're getting? Maybe 6.70x15 front and 8.00/8.20x15 rear??
Man, I hate exhaust work, but that went pretty easy. Awesome as usual!
It’s your car make it what you want and I love straight pipes!
Sounds great! But will it pass public approval!
It should be tolerable with the pipes exiting the rear. If it was my car, I would want to bend up some tailpipes over the rear axle which would tone down the obnoxious factor just a little bit more. I also DON'T like the battery being so exposed!!
P.S. I had a Blazer with a 350 and glass packs with no tailpipes (exit of the mufflers under the front seats). It was INSANELY loud! It had a stereo that could play loud enough to hear, but when you shut the car off it left my ears ringing!
'Way too loud, IMHO. A pair of mid-length Smithy's from Speedway would be just right with 2" pipes and cast iron manifolds like you've got. They are on the quiet side, but that car is too nice to be obnoxiously loud.
A couple questions. Don't you own a shop vac? Your blowing shit over your shop. I'm still learning with you but didn't you lose engine back pressure by deleting the mufflers? Finally I get that bias ply were the tire of the day but aren't there radials available that look period corre t? Outside of that $10 well spent. Cool look at the under side or the car. Thanks.
Loud pipes save lives !
When is the gentleman that originally started the rebuild on this car coming to see it. It would be nice to hear what he has to say. I think it needs the glade packs.
If you go muffs, check out the Dynomax Mini Race Bullets. Cleans up the sound with some rumble.
Sounds killer...
I have to vote for the glass packs, too. No need for a car that classy to beat your hearing up, while you drive it.
You've done that car, and Larry, proud, with what you have done with it!
HEY MATT SO COOL AND THE SOUND IS GREAT ,,, THIS CLIP WAS SO COOL AS I CAME HOME AND TUNED YOU IN . I WAS JUST AT MY GARAGE FINISHING UP MY EXHAUST ON MY 35 FOR CABRIOLET EXHAUST REMOVED THE FLAT MOTOR AND NOW I HAVE A BAD ASS SBC WITH ABOUT 325 HP REALLY STRONG . MY BUDDIES AND I JUST AN HOUR AGO WE SAYING THATS TOO LOUD SAME SET UP AS YOUR 34 EXCEPT OVER THE AXEL TAILPIPES WITH AN OLD SET OF STEEL PACKS ,, MAN MINE WHEN YOU GET ON IT IS LOUD TOO ,, BUT I HAVE MUFFLERS ,,,, YIKES YOURS MUST BE REALLY LOUD ,, SETH CARLEY TRUMBULL CT
Man, what a greasy and dirty mess under that car it is. You guys need to remove the body and start over. If it looks this bad under, chances are it isn't real good topside either. Good luck with your expensive mess.