In Malaysia, you can pretty much say that many non-Chinese see the minority Chinese as the 'Jews of SE Asia', since most influential Chinese do fit the Jewish stereotypes, like their love for wealth, economic dominance, and persistence at keeping themselves separate from other non-Chinese in many domains, including education, residence and trade. Not all Chinese are like that though, with many of them being extraordinarily ordinary. But the few who do have that stereotypical behavior are politically strong enough to exert this kind of perception.
That could be true. It's the immigrant survivalism behavior, seen in almost any minority diaspora colonies including the Chinese. But I would say that such higher intelligence are evident only in the first or second generations though. Later generations are just reaping up the benefits gained from the work of the early generations without having much difference compared to non-minorities, apart from the economic advantages of course.
Not really. In some countries like Phillipines and Indonesia, the later generation do have significant assimilation at cultural and biological level, but not in some other countries like Malaysia and Vietnam. In Malaysia, for example, Chinese-native intermarriage are quite rare, and it is still common to see Malaysian Chinese not proficient in the national Malay language, unlike their counterpart in Indonesia.
Yussairi Khairil Nah, intelligence is a highly heritable trait. So while yes, additional generations of Chinese in SEA do regress to the mean, and are thus not as intellectually stellar as their earlier immigrant forebears, they regressed to the Chinese IQ mean, which is still about a standard deviation above most Austronesian populations.
I feel like it's important to point out that there are different groups of Han Chinese immigrants. Currently, the dominant Han Chinese people in the Philippines are the 'Minnan' or people from Souther Fujian. Most of the time, they aren't mixed and usually retain their Chinese blood because of ethnocentrism (..which is how parents force their children to marry other Chinese people). The first groups of Chinese immigrants in the Philippines are of Cantonese descent, and most of them were men. Therefore, they had to marry the local Filipinos women there. I feel like you should have placed importance on which Han Chinese subgroup you are talking about because Han Chinese themselves are already very diverse.
Interesting, Our ancestral lineage came from Amoi (now Xiamen), my great-grandparents fled Communist purges and famine according to them and their sons intermarried.
Ha! I always hear about the old, new, & newest Chinese in the Philippines. Old I would guess are the Cantonese who assimilated, new are from Fujian who prefer their enclaves, & the newest who are only here for business.
Stop dividing us. We are linked by our cultures and languages. Kanji character no matter which language we speak we always understand each other. We are 華人. Plus most ethnically Chinese around the world right now no matter which groups most of us can speak mandarin anyways.
In the Philippines, in order to label yourself as "Chinese" in the census, you need to have at least 75% Chinese ancestry. You did touch on it a bit when you mentioned that the relatively low number represented people of full Chinese descent. I'm about 1/4 Chinese but I don't consider myself Chinese. That is pretty common throughout the northern Philippines.
@@Elvimber Mainly refers to the island of Luzon north of Manila. Also very hard to tell how many percentage of the population have Chinese ancestry. As the video states they have been interacting with the locals for more that a 1000 years. I have a friend who is sure and so was we that he was pure Filipino-Austronesian decent until it turns out he has 7% Chinese ancestry so meaning he had a Chinese ancestor around 100-150 years ago and his family lived in remote areas of the country so. Should he be counted? That 27% only refers to families around 3 or 4 or 5 generations ago. How about the 6th or 7th etc? My point is unless defined to a clear set of rules we can't just assume that 27% is accurate.
@@officialnyiyanmoehtet no, it's by traceable ancestors who have a solid Chinese identity. My mother could qualify as Chinese because his father has a solid Chinese identity, he has a Chinese but do not consider himself as Chinese and carry his Hispanized Chinese surname (his mother was super Chinese tho) so my mother cannot be considered Chinese even if she's half because his father already relinquished his being Chinese and chose to become full pledged Filipino. If someone has a better knowledge, correct me if I am wrong.
I'm Chinese born and raised in the Philippines and I studied in Shanghai for a couple of years and met other ethnic Chinese born in other parts of Southeast Asia. Alls I gotta say is Chinese people born in say Malaysia or Indonesia seem to detest the local population and would very much prefer to speak in English rather than Bahasa. Meanwhile, (this is based entirely from my observations) "pure" Chinese people in the Philippines seem to have gradually started to have no particular qualms in dating Filipinos or people who have no Chinese ancestry at all, which was nothing short of a taboo back then. I really think it's got something to do with religion. Malaysia and Indonesia are a majority Muslim population so Chinese people wanting to marry a local would have to convert and to my knowledge, even adopt an Islamic name, not to mention you can't renounce Islam after converting to it. Also, growing up I've noticed a large number of Chinese Filipinos are dual citizens to Canada, the US or Australia but would still rather remain in the Philippines despite the fact that the grass is obviously massively greener on the other side. I'm Canadian as well but I never identified as one because I didn't grow up there. When I asked my parents why they never emigrated apparently it was a back-up in case something bad happens in the Philippines or like the 90s Chinese kidnapping for ransom thing happens again.
ClapBoomBoom I live in Indonesia and there are 2 stereotyped Chinese Indonesian that I know, first Chindo that live in country side they are nice, friendly and living peacefully with us, almost nothing different even mixed marriage with the local are common thing but they are poorer than Chindo in big cities, second Chindo who live in big cities they are rich, arrogant, live exclusively and don't want to socialize with native people especially if they are poor. But they are speak bahasa Indonesia.
ClapBoomBoom Malaysia and Indonesia discriminate against the Chinese diaspora. Partially this is a reaction to colonialist policies, as the British and Dutch preferred to working with Chinese mercantile families above the native populations. In Malaysia postwar discrimination led to a Communist insurgency that was supported mainly by ethnic Chinese, and crushed at great cost by the British Army. When the Indonesians overthrew Sukarno, Anti-Communist fervor was stoked in the wake of the coup, and a lot of ethnic Chinese were targeted for their (mostly fictitious) ties to the Mao regime. So yeah the Chinese of these countries have a lot of resentment towards the indigenous populations of these countries.
@@ikapuchino how come they dont live exclusively, as I know chinese is alway targetted in riot and discrimination... Their shops were burnt, even churches and temples... And As I know Jakarta formet governor Ahook, was jailed because Indonesian native practising blindly fanatic religion
I’m a Thai-Chinese. I love Thailand and pround to be Thai. Most of the Chinese immigrants in Thailand are now Thai in their heart. Most of them, including me and my family speak Thai language in everyday life not Chinese anymore. But we have many Chinese culture remain here, eg. food, festival. Anyway, nice information! Cheer! Ps. I can speak easy Chinese because I’d learnt from school. 你们好！
that's how all overseas chinese descendants should do... love your home country as well as your ancestor's culture... as chinese descendant, we have to be proud of the richness of chinese culture, history, and contribution to the wolrd...
Geng Wei if you’re proud of Beinh Thai, then stop practicing Chines culture or traditions, Adopt Thai Culture and call yourself Thai Completely, Stop using Ua or Lue while talking, stop using Ma or pa, use mae and Por, this is Thailand
I have Chinese ancestors but considering myself as a Thai but when I visited China the immigration officer said to me “well come home” it just make my heart bounce inside out. In a good way ,thank you ❤️
@@chawrakaxom559 Well you're mostly wrong mate. Thai, Khmer, Lao, and Burmese argueably have even higher rate of the Indosphere Influece than Indonesia and Malaysia until this very day. I mean just look at their writing/script
We have both Indian and Chinese influences. I think Chinese is more in everyday modern life than Indian such as food and people by blood, Indian is sth ancient like language, culture and religion. I’m Thai :)
@@siriyatiansakul8027 Thanks for the Info and Sorry for the mistake. I'm Indonesian, so I made my statement based on what I observed in my country and with yours
You forgot to mention the Peranakans (aka. the Straits Chinese or Baba-Nyonya). They settled in parts of Indonesia and Malaysia before the European colonisation. Interesting fact: there's a Jewish cemetry in Penang for the traders from Middle East, but there's no Jews left in the country (excluding expats).
Peranakan aka Baba Nyonya has no problem to write, talk and assimilate with local tradition and that's their pride. But it is different to Chinese. Oww by the way Peranakan aka Baba Nyonya dont call themselves Chinese.
@@elyasmalau nope. I'm of partial peranakan heritage; my paternal granny cooks nyonya dishes which she learnt from her mother-in-law, who was a Thai-nyonya. Yes, most peranakans would self-style as 'Chinese' alike, though with the word "Peranakan" placed in emphasised conjunction in an effort to highlight their/our cultural differences.
fourth-gen malaysian chinese here. i still strongly identify with my han chinese culture and food and language, mandarin being my native language. take chinese people of malaysia or singapore, compared to those immigrated to western countries far later than we did to SEA, i believe that we are def way better at preserving our culture and language. but this is also thanks to the inclusiveness of our countries, we get to celebrate chinese new year as a public holiday here.
bcs in the western,those chinese assimilated with the locals unlike in malaysia u should follow baba & nyonya/peranakan chinese..they came here hundred of years ago and assimilated with the locals until now
So in other words you are Chinese who happens to have Malaysian citizenship, I mean that's exactly what I'm getting from your comment Take me for an example my family have lived in Norway for 2 generation and we don't call ourselves Norwegian and my children won't either unless we assimilate and intermarry with the locals
@@mohmu9 May I ask where your family comes from? Why do you think that you can't integrate into Norway and still keep some of the culture and traditions of your original country? And how comes that your family didn't intermarry with the locals? Is that just a coincidence or were you actively looking for someone from your own country?
I think the reasons why Chinese people in Southeast Asia did not return to mainland China are because they might no longer have roots in the mainland, and the PRC sees them as foreigners and would give them a hard time earning Chinese citizenship as with any other foreigners. So it's easier for Chinese people to just flee to a country that's already multi-ethnic and have more open policies or social attitude with immigration.
during the 20th century, the prc did offer free citizenships to the overseas chinese from the southeast asia when the war happened and they were facing the anti-chinese sentiment in their country. it was actually quite easy for them to gain the citizenship unlike other non-chinese. in fact, prc are still taking overseas chinese refugees from southeast asia today.
Did you know PRC government issued special long term visa only for Overseas Chinese who non-Chinese ethic can't apply? So, while overseas Chinese are now considered as foreigner now, it's still easier for overseas Chinese to stay longer in Mainland China compared to other ethnic groups.
In the US, I have met a lot of Vietnamese, Filipino, Laotian, Cambodian people who are anywhere between half Chinese to an eighth Chinese. Those Chinese sure get around.
I’m 7/8 Chinese and 1/8 Vietnamese. Many people don’t seem to understand that Asians could be of mixed ethnicity because we are so used to hearing “well I’m German, Irish, danish, etc.” and not “I’m Malay, Thai and Javanese.”
@@nguyentiensu3825 Actually, China is ruled by Mongol less than 100 years. But current Chinese are sure mixed of Han originated in "Central China" and various ethnic groups lived in North, East, West, South of China over last 2000 years.
You're videos are great! I always wondered about these various subjects. I feel like through learning about different types of groups we learn more about the human race and we see people as they are rather then mere stereotypes. Videos such as these really get some good dialog going as well. Thanks for your uploads Masaman!
This video has no positive effect on overseas Chinese living in South East Asia. Please don't forget that poverty is race or color blind, there are alot of poor Chinese strugling very hard in Malaysia Indonesia and Singapore. Wealthy Chinese phenomenon has long been a racial issue and has been twisted by the ultra indeginious right politician in South East Asian to gain vote. Many local chinese has acquired South East Asian citizenship some for 4 to five genereation family member has SE Asian citizenship.Chinese SE Asian are loyal to their repective country and not to mainland Chinese. Many local Chinese are heavily persecuted eg 513 riot in Malaysia, racial tension between local chinese and indigenious tribe exist even those the local chinese hav tried their best to assimillate into local culture. There are many asdimilated chinese group known as Peranakan in Indonesia, Baba Nyoya in Malaysia and Singapore. Hope that Masaman can do a video to document the real situation and hardship that local SE Asian chinese face today.
Soon Wai Cheng hey it's not like the locals don't want to help the poor Chinese but MOST of the time the Chinese keep on saying their race is the richest and they have many tycoon behind them so that's why not many helped are channeled to them. Maybe they should learn to drop their ego first
saniy there are rich local tycoon , there are also rich chinese tycoon, they had tried their very best to reach their current status undoubtfully. The reality is overseas Chinese is just like the rest of local live a modest life, work hard to earn a living, but there are still institutional policy policies across everywhere including South East Asia which are not favorable to overseas even though they are no more mainland china citizen. They are local countryman born and bred in their born country. Government in respective country especially South East Asia should channel the aid to the needy people within their own country irrespective of religious and skin colour.
this video is made by the west people who are our enemy of course they do want to make the relation of east asian people worse.divide and rule thats that simple.
I am from Malaysia and I love racial diversity. My ancestry is Thai-Sumatran Malay. One interesting fact to share, Chinese ethnic in Malaysia have been preserving their culture and language for the past 500 years! Unlike Chinese in Thailand, Indonesia or Philippines who have been almost completely assimilated into the local native culture (e.g. Chinese in Malaysia still adopt Chinese names where Chinese in Thailand and Indonesia have to adopt local names), Chinese in Malaysia pretty much retain their identity even at subgroup level (e.g. Hokkien, Yue, Teochew, Hakka). Isn't that cool? In Malaysia, Chinese even have their own schools run totally in Mandarin and Chinese political parties. I would say, outside Greater China, Chinese in Malaysia are the most pure in terms of language and culture. Although percentage population wise, there are more Chinese in Singapore, Chinese in Singapore are more "westernised and anglicised" than the ones in Malaysia.
Indonesia is different from other countries, They have mother language and not bahasa indonesia, as well as that name applies not to Chinese Indonesia, but all tribes in Indonesia, if the tribes in Indonesia speak their mother language including Chinese speak chinese, and other tribe in indonesia use their name and mother language, then will there be an Indonesian state? THERE WILL BE NO! And now Chinese Indonesia they have become part of the tribe in Indonesia. Indonesia is diversity if you want to become an Indonesian citizen, you can't be selfish, only concerned with your local name and r mother language cuz Indonesia exists because it was created by a union of different ethnic background. Not like Thailand cuz thai people,Malaysia cuz Malay people.
Erm, no. Sabah & Sarawak are states like every other states in the Peninsula Malaysia so you cant say they are both countries. The only sovereign country in Borneo is Brunei, and only Brunei should be called a country.
Lucifer before Malaysia and Indonesia existed, Borneo was a bunch of countries especially Sultanates and Rajanates. Then came the Brits and the Dutch, dividing Borneo into two colonies. Brunei was already here for over 1000 years until it became a British protectorate in 1888. Borneo became what it is now is because in the early 60s Brunei chose to stay within the British empire instead of joining Malaysia in 1963 for independence because of several reasons: 1. The power of the Sultan remains limited to the Prime Minister if Brunei joined the Federation of Malaysia. That's the first thing he refused. 2. Malaysia has an electoral monarch from nine Malayan states where one Sultan is elected to be the head of State (Yang Di-Pertuan Agong). If Brunei became a part of the Federation, it could take YEARS for the Sultan to be elected as Agong. That's also a BIG no for the Sultan of Brunei 3. In 1962, Brunei also HAD to deal with a rebellion among some of its citizens who REFUSED to let Brunei join Malaysia. That influenced the Sultan to reject the idea of getting independence by joining. Because of these reasons Brunei HAD to wait until it was given full independence in 1984. And that's how a third country (by sovereign standard) is born.
Sabah and Sarawak have the same status as Malaya (and Singapore). The federation is made up of 4 countries and therefore, not the same status as other states in Malaya. That explains why the court hierarchy goes from the Federal court at the top and followed by the Court of Malaya, the Court of Sabah, and the Court of Sarawak. Refer to Malaysia Agreement 1963 to find out more. It's pretty interesting.
It does not matter how one joins a federation/republic/state. Tibet is not a sovereign state because it was annexed by China. Or that the Donetsk People's Republic is an independent country because no one recognizes them. Or ISIS for that matter. The fact of the matter is to be a sovereign state you need to have your own 1) Currency 2) Army 3) Foreign policy and most importantly 4) International recognition Sabah and Sarawak has neither of these and as much as I wish them to form a Republic or federation of their own instead of having to feed all their money to Kuala Lumpur, we are better off in Malaysia.
Nothing to add from me, but that's why I love your channel, so informative and interesting. You help us travel around the world with a sort of history book. Great work.
I've learned from some Thai friends of mine that in Thailand many n people of Chinese roots consider themselves Thai first and Chinese a more distant second, speaking Thai in daily life and using Thai first and last names. Though one apparently has a lesser known Chinese name as well, I'm not sure in which situations it is actually used.
yes, it is true.. as the chinese control a large portion of the economy and political power it is only rational to take on local culture to appease the populous, just like how the mongols assimilated with the chinese during the yuan dynasty
Harry McNicholas The Dai peoples, they live in Yunan Province. Yunan Province used to be called Sipsongbanna, an Ancient Tai kingdom, taken over by Han invaders
@@limcharles9730 What are you talking about???? Some Thai politicians of Chinese descent even hate China,can you ask him what country he is in? I'm sure he has to answer that he is Thai, you don't know what it is,don't say it better.
This is absolutely correct. My mother is full Chinese however she is Thai. She was born and bred in Thailand. She speaks little Chinese. My mother's family had to change their chinese last name to Thai last name during Chinese communist era.
We are Malaysian Chinese, most of us proud as a Malaysian. Asimilation in Malaysia is not significant due by our political tactic. Race issue has been using by the major political parties here in Malaysia, that's why both vernacular schools and religion schools has been expanding even after 60 years of independence.
@@muhamadamirulhafiz2852 kalao Encik tak boleh terima sejarah yg dah berlaku, itulah hakikaknya. Banyak org² siam, org pakistan masuk dari Thailand ke kelantan selepas merdeka juga. Senyap2, tapi kami or g cina dan india masuk sebelum merdeka pun....
@@rambutans5857 kau mendarat di Jepun berasimilasi la dengan budaya dan bahasa Jepun, kau mendarat di negara Ukraine, berasimilasi la dengan bahasa dan budaya Ukraine, negara ni walaupun berlambak dengan orang dari luar negara tapi Malaysia tetap ada identiti asal, terima je la hakikat
Fascinating. I recently had my DNA tested to help solve the mystery of my grandparents' origins on my mom's side. Both grew up in the Philippines, but my grandma was an orphan and definitely wasn't Filipina. My grandpa had a Spanish surname, but that was most likely the result of the country being a colony. After doing some tests (and making a couple of videos about it), I found out my ancestors include the Amis of Taiwan, the Dai and Uyghur of China, as well as groups from Vietnam, Cambodia, Burma, Indonesia, and Borneo. Seems both branches reached the Philippines from different directions; it's just a matter of when. Even older ancestors were traced back to Nepal, Tibet, and ethnic groups in Central Asia and the Steppe. No Spanish whatsoever, despite the surname. The results didn't fill in all the blanks, but it gave me more leads to research. This video provided some insight. Oh, and the other side of my family was traced back to Scotland, England, France, Germany, Scandinavia, and the Balkans. Because things clearly weren't mixed up enough already.
They actually had a choice to pick a surname but with limitation. Filipinos who picked a Spanish surname generally has this two reason: religion and assimilation. They thought having a spanish surname corresponds to being a catholic and to also assimilate with the colony for future. While other people who had native surnames either picked it in the (Claveria decree of 1849) or just weren't exposed to the colonization up until the US.
Chinese have been in the Philippines even before the Westerners came. People with Chinese ancestry but has Spanish surname indeed exists, I had several coworkers who are like this, I also had an ancestor from 1800s who is one. The thing is, if a Chinese converts to Christianity during the Spanish period, they may adopt a Spanish surname. A well-known sample was Jose Rizal's Chinese ancestor, who migrated to the Philippines in 1600s and adopted the surname "Mercado".
There are a'lot of Chinese people in Indonesia, yet a'lot of them chose not to register as ethnically 'Chinese' on censuses and the data stating religious belief is to an extent not justified, as according to the Indonesian law 1 must choose a religion, and some Chinese Indonesian choose their religion randomly fearing repercussion, this is true to a certain extent considering most of my friends and myself falsify some of our data to avoid unwanted attention or trouble.
Derry Darmawan What religion do you put down then, isn't Indonesia one of those Muslim countries that bans Muslims from converting to any other religion, wouldn't the risk of being found out as a fake/apostate worse than the discrimination for being a Buddhist/Christian/Taoist, etc?
JUST TRAPSUKI Indonesia isn't Muslim country we're secular and one of the biggest democracy countries! We have freedom to choose our faith without being forced and never ban people to convert other religions.
JUST TRAPSUKI lol ur twisting the fact he said bout choosing 1 religion n muslim majority. In fact that policy was born by a US-backed dictator in the 1970s to weed out "atheist communists" and discriminate chinese traditional belief as well (mind you, this dictator also suppressed Islamic political movements in the largest muslim population until 1990s) - what most indonesians missed tho, is that these same elites who started the discriminatory practice against the Tionghoa (Indo Chinese) also looted our own country with corruption together with Tionghoa Taipan (conglomerates). Poor sheep herds called uneducated Indonesians... *im indonesian too btw, just pitying the state that were in*
Ika Faizah yeah i do agree that 'our country' is secular and democratic, but majority of the population aren't. it's clear that islamic extremism in indonesia is skyrocketing to alarming rate right now.
Here are some of my views of why Chinese empires did not invade the southeast Asia for thousands of years. 1. Ancient China's economy depended on agriculture(peasants & fertile soil). In contrast, the the Roman empire's economic growth depended on commerce and manufacture(slavery) which led to endless invasion and wars. After 1000 AD, Chinese quit the idea of taking Vietnam back mostly because it was too costly. The taxes were never enough to maintain the army to defeat the bold locals from attacking from the jungles and blocking the routes. Even the mongols could not conquer Vietnam unless you burned all the forests. 2. Places like southeast Asia showed no threats to the rule of Chinese dynasties and no importance militarily. In contrast, Xinjiang and Inner Mongolia were places that every dynasty desired to conquer and rule, despite that these area are full of deserts and grass land. 3. Ancient China was too big and too busy to get itself in order just like the Roman empire. About 2000 years ago, the Han Chinese started at the north, conquered the south China, driven away the local people into Indochina or turned them into Han Chinese. The process could be bloody and brutal just like what the Europeans did in America. I think this is the reason why some minority groups among the mountains of southern China have certain kind of connections with people in southeast Asia.
Have you heared about Lapu lapu? It probably drove your people back to the mainland....and might happen again in this generation of the so called 9 dash fake -----.
Arya Latumba if you learn history.You will know that people in Mongolian grassland think they are an ancestor of Han people. In terms of genetics, the ancestors of East Asians and Southeast Asians come from Myanmar
As a Vietnamese I would like to make some clarifications: 1. Northern and Southern Vietnam have the same culture. We are the same people. 2. Vietnam started in the North and then expanded down South at the same time as Christopher Columbus discovered America
Southern Vietnamese are more mixed with Cham/Khmer people. Now that doesn't mean Southern Vietnamese are unrelated to Northern Vietnamese and don't look like Northern Vietnamese, we are still blood brothers but Southern Viets can have more varied facial appearances. I speak with a Southern accent and identify myself as a Southern Viet culturally (i mean all Viets follow the same traditions but the people's mentality, the cuisine between two regions North & South are different)
@Vinh Bảo If you think your ancestors just went South and intergrated with the natives then you’re so dumb. They invaded Champa and killed the Chams and other ethnic tribes. They forced them to move South and highland. Same thing happened to Khmer people.
@@guyp9596 no , they just killed them all and pushed them to cambodia or might be malay. you can see their culture is everywhere in the southern vietnam
I think the Chinese were already established connections with Malaysia/Indonesia area before 15th Century? Zheng He set sail in the 15th century and stopped by the port cities in the area (like Java and Singapore) before heading to further regions great video!
Well I agree with you regarding the chinese in the Philippines. Assimilation is so strong here that many chinese decent citizens can only remember their pure chinese ancestors but forgot their culture and language. Though there are still a significant number of Filipino Chinese who retained their cultures.
Basically, China is the equivalent of Rome in Asian world. Centre of civilization that viewed the rest of the world as "barbaric". The only difference between China and Rome, is that Rome fell, while China has not. It had it's ups and downs, it fractured for some time, but always managed to unite in the end. Chinese dialects within the country can be compared to various Romance languages. While official Chinese language would be equivalent of Latin, many of the Chinese dialects are descendants of Vulgar Latin in comparison. And just like Rome influenced the outside world and even kickstarted civilization in the Northern Europe, so did China with South East Asian part of the world.
Nah, those who are traveling outside are oportunist who want to avoid hardship and prosecution and adventures. China are isolationist by default and anyone who hate that will leave and colonizing surounding area without their government support. Like Japan and Korea was founded by Qin refugee. Every time new dynasty begin there will be exodus of the formert dynasty. And stop with the crap that China never fell, China has fallen many times in the past and the today China have no relation with the first Qin empire. or the Manchu or the Mongols or whatever else.
Chinese dynasties had basically no interests in "Barbaric" lands. And since Southeast Asian countries rarely raided Chinese borders, Chinese dynasties basically left them alone.
Yulus Leonard they all had to be sinolized when they ruled so basically China didn't really fell. All the conquerors had to somewhat understand or adapt to the culture before they began their invasions, otherwise it'd just be endless rebellions after rebellions and causes more trouble than it was worth.
Most interesting from an Aussie perspective Masaman! Many, many, many Australians don't have a clue about the connection Australia and it's closest neighbours to the North have had and have with China since before Capt. Cook (let alone Dirk Hartog) arrived! Australians only paid attention to the Chinese when they felt 'threatened'... i.e. during the gold rush of the 19th Century, the Chinese arrived in numbers to do the jobs Euro-Australians felt were 'beneath them'; while today it's growing resentment for Chinese property investors not only buying Australian property, but pushing prices for houses, etc. out of local reach. Videos like yours, go a long way towards redressing the ignorance many of my fellow Antipodeans cloak themselves in when they try to justify their intolerance of what they fear or don't understand. Thanks for doing what you do, and keep up the good work!
hello masaman! i love watching your videos, thought it was cool to finally have a video highlighting my background. i’m from singapore, half chinese, quarter indian and quarter malay! x
1/5 of Filipinos are considered to have chinese ancestry. I myself has Chinese roots in my mother side. They are Hokkien Chinese with family name of ANG
Okay, then you’re officially CHINESE must practice Chinese traditions, drop the Filipino traditions and Values, change your patriotsm and Nationalism to CHINA be loyal to CHINA
@HiItsMe-ip8cj Have you checked your Y DNA haplogroup? If you got haplogroup O, you might very well be a descendant of a Chinese man via immigration.
@@karlkun717 Filipinos have chinese influence but dont forget in IN GENERAL. We Filipinos are culturally, linguistically and genetically Austronesian not Chinese. I know Filipinos genes got impacted by han chinese genes but we still Austronesian MAJORITY we still genetically, linguistically and culturally Austronesian.
@@Real_MamboWhich shows Southeast Asians, Chinese, Austrinesians, Austroasiatics, and Koreans, they are all just the same damm people. That's why playing that "we are different from the Chinese" card is idiotic when you share the exact same Y DNA haplogroup with the Chinese.
I do not know how South East Asians think about this matter, but i for one, hate it when people group up all of the East & South East Asian countries into one group. South East Asia has a very rich history and culture, and it's very different from Chinese, Japanese and Korean culture.
As Malaysian student, not all chinese are bad, i dont think they are because some of them are really nice, and treat me like their bestfriend, my crush is chinese, and he is so kind to me because he know that i really like him, and even he have a girlfriend but he still treat me like his good friend it is good to know him actually 😊
Sad to say...historically the Chinese race had left an undesirable track record in the political rivalry in Malaya(now known as Malaysia) of not accepting the Bahasa as the 'lingua franca' natively spokened long before the Chinese arrived. This is the real problem till today.
@@simonsimon2888 You got it wrong! Since when had the local Chinese not recognized the Bahasa as lingua franca in this SEA region? In Malaysia, since Bahasa is the national language and taught in school system, most modern educated Chinese are fluent and competent in Bahasa.
When did the Malay monarchy of each Malay state begin? If, it is true, then the Chinese Emperor system should have been established, then. For the Chinese saying, "Know the face but not what is in the heart'. Sama sama rambut hitam, hati tak sama. Better to be safe than sorry. Hence, the Sino-Malay problems remained not accepting 'being borned in these Malay Archipelago' with the usage of Malay currencies. It is Chinese cheap labour brought here by the European colonists.
Great video. As a Chinese American coming from Chinese parents from Vietnam. This video does a good job summarizing Chinese migration to Southeast Asia. I would note though that the majority of the Han Chinese immigrants were Cantonese and fujianese, which are culturally different from other regions of China. Primarily the northern half.
most of"Chinese parents from Vietnam"when SouthVietnam collapsed 1975, so some one will "return" their chinese root and claimed that they are chinese, I think Vietnam just their shelter place to live and they will never give any relation about Vietnam ,
They are Han Chinese live in Southern Vietnam for business, after the fall of Saigon they are boat people(you can search in Wikipedia) then they move Armerica, wherever they so rich they control the economy Southern Vietnam, they married with Vietnamese people(Kinh), we call they Hoa, it's a beautiful name, sorry for my bad English
In my high school(Jakarta, Indonesia), at least half the class is of chinese descent. Nobody speaks proper Chinese and everyone speaks fluent English. The Anglosphere seems to be more preferred here than the Sinosphere(?)
Terence Lee Indo-Aryans were iranic, nordics have nothing to do with them. N marker is Y dna marker, majority of finns look like caucasoid nordic, samis are a bit mongoloid, and samoyeds have fully different MtDNA haplogroups. So we are not same but related. She is a russian/korean model on my photo, but i'm very similar. I have a bit mongoloid eyes + light blond hair. Interesting but 95% of us have natural blond hair and light eyes :)
Terence Lee They speak germanic language. Indo-Aryan is different: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Aryan_languages en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Aryan_peoples Asian looking finns have probably sami ancestry just like me.
Finnic Girl take a look at F1 Ferrari driver Kimi Raikkonen. He's a Finn and there is nothing Asian looking about him. I think you may be referring to the Sami people that live in northern Finland that look Mongolian-Asiatic
Finnic Girl yes you are correct about Mike hakkinen I forgot about him. Forgive me for my terminology on Mongolia I'm new to this. I have an interest in this topic because I just fell head over heels (expression us 60yr olds use when we meet someone we have strong affection for) for a Hungarian-Romanian woman and some say the Hungarian language is a uralic language as Finnish is. I don't speak either so I don't know
I am filipino and my mothers middle name comes from chinese word which means eldest son. And I live in a place Vigan were it got its name from many origin. One of it is its from Mei an ( beautiful shore) and a known trading port for the chinese long ago. Now chinese influence is still evident and assimilated in filipino culture in this part.
Although I am Chinese, I think India and ASEAN countries have closer and more frequent ties in the history.When we look at the map, we can see that India is farther away from the Philippines than China. But in ancient times, the core of China was in the north of China. Today, Guangdong, the nearest province to the Philippines, was annexed and assimilated. India was not a country. The Tamils in the south of India are connected with Southeast Asia through sea trade. Let's not think that they are countries in history just because China and India are united countries today. India was just a geographical term before the British. Although China has always existed, its focus has always been in the north.I can also imagine that if the Europeans did not colonize, Southeast Asia would be assimilated by the Chinese, and because the Chinese have a unified tradition, so…We all know that there are a lot of Chinese, but in fact, that's because many ethnic groups have been assimilated into one nation.It may upset you, but I'm just saying one thing
Vigan actually has more native origins. It comes from Bigan, you can see it in the velarde map several centuries ago. Biga is a plant, also known as Biga'a in tagalog. In Ilocano, it is just Biga. "-an" suffix is of course a place marker suffix. The mei an you heard of is just a mandarin translation of hokkien bi-gan and this is a newer name that hokkien migrants named the place just a few generations ago to put in chinese titles of places and groups like schools and churches as a chinese translation.
An interesting point to note. Many of these Chinese diaspora in Southeast Asia preserve the "original" Chinese traditions which were largely lost in mainland China due to Mao's Cultural Revolution which purged many of the old traditions.
Chinese people used to worship their ancestors. Also there are many minor gods like Guan Yu or Guan Gong and other folkstyle religons. There are also many superstitions and belief systems.
My dad is indian - chinese granpa chinese(hongkong) grandma Indian My mom is thai - american Mygrandad is thai grandmom is American So im mixed indian chinese thai american born and raised in Thailand
It surprised me a lot.When we found out and also ancient Thai people had DNA associated with northern Chinese people. (Thai ancient people are half Chinese). The latest information on ancient DNA ... Prof. Dr. Viphu also took a sample of ancient DNA in Pangmapha District, Mae Hong Son Province, 1,600-1,800 years old found that Pangmapha DNA has a 50% genetic ratio from northern China. This information goes into Thaipbs' UA-cam's topic of DNA, ancient people, cave-in.
In spanish when we refer to the eastern race (japanese+korean+chinese+filipinos+malayan...) we just call them Orientals, not asians, because they are un the eastern part of the Eurasia, the Orient. And we solved the problem with other asian races like indians, persians, arabs, ir even white people in Siberia.
Whenever I watch videos by Masaman, I end up liking the amount of information he gives us. But I don't know why, I also get this little urge to troll him.
I'm a Filipino-American (of full Filipino ancestry) and when you see me on the streets you'll see me as a Filipino but my mom, aunts, some of my cousins, nephew, and nieces look Chinese looking with light yellow and porcelain white complexion.
It happens because our natives friendly to visitors maybe just our natives got some knowledge in this visitors,and some our native begins to uhh like invasion but not that word .
late comment but let me enlighten you. There is NO pure filipino. philipino is just a term the spaniards called the locals living in the archipelago they occupied, then renamed it philip-pines (for king of spain/ king philip) the original settlers there are austronesian, aetas and chinese merchants anchored in manila bay district, binondo city (i suggest you check the city) your family are probably a mixture of austro chinese - sangleys thats why you have those features you mentioned. which is typical
@@jil2936 the first part of your comment you're wrong on history. The term "Filipino" was given to white Spaniard colonizers and their Philippine born Spanish children and mestizo children with native Philippine women. It's similar to the term Criollo for Spanish colonists living in Colonial New España (Mexico) and Ibero-America (South America). The native Austronesian Filipinos were called "Indios" by the Spanish during colonial times. I think Jose Rizal or the Filipino KKK revolutionaries (Katipunan) adopted the name Filipino for all Philippine citizens when they were fighting against the Spanish for their independence.
@@8bitgamer85 sorry but i disagree with you. even if that was true, (which it isnt), filipinos by default would look venezuelan, chilean, brazilian, costa rican, mexican, columbian... you name it youre really going to say that when filipinos dont look nothing like spanish? the only reason why filipinos have spanish last names was becuase the spaniards forced them to for christianity. that, and perks to own land and businesses. it had nothing to do with being spanish blooded and white spanish having babies with an austronesian ALSO, indio was a term called BY the spanish to filipino and chinese children decent. other term used eas sangley
@@jil2936 I don't think you read my response right. The people who were called Filipinos during colonial times were the white Spaniard colonizers and the Spanish children born in Philippines and their Mesitzo children. The native Philippine Austronesian Filipinos were never called *Filipinos* by the Spanish during colonial times. The Spanish called the brown Austronesian *Indios* like they did with the Native Azteks, Mayans, and Andean indigenous Natives of the Spanish Americas. It was Jose Rizal or the KKK Katipnunan who adopted the name Filipino for all Philippine citizens during the Revolution. You probably never been to Spain or Europe before or met European Spaniards before. Look up *Casta system.*
Philippines have adopt "many" American culture BUT don't be generalizing to much we are not culturally American😂😂. Philippines major dominance cultures is Austronesian because Philippines is home of Austronesian languages and house of Austronesian people
@@AsianSPI guess you overlook😂😂 or just ignore the American cultures in the Philippines. American culture like our education system is Americanized, there's a lot of subjects are English than Filipino. English is an avarage language in the Philippines when in comes to businesses. English is a second language in the Philippines that widely spoken in the Philippines. Certain values and lifestyle choices, such as individualism, entrepreneurship, and the pursuit of the "American Dream," have been embraced by some segments of Filipino society, especially among urban dwellers and the younger generation. Influence on Politics and Governance, the American democratic system and political culture have moderate left a lasting impact on Philippine politics and governance We have American loanwords that's example of American cultures that adopt by Filipinos I know the Austronesian is DOMINANCE cultures in the Philippines but we can't deny our cultures are mixed, we have Chinese, Spanish, American, muslim cultures and many others.
@@AsianSP my comment is referse on Filipino cultures.. Philippines adopt many American cultures then I added DON'T BE GENERALIZING TO MUCH WE ARE "NOT" CULTURALLY AMERICAN and I didn't mention Filipinos are culturally American that's reason why I comment that the dominance cultures in the Philippines is Austronesian...and I added more Philippines major "dominance cultures" is Austronesian because Filipinos in general is culturally, linguistically, genetically Austronesian.
Anti-Chinese movements in Vietnam are recent events and they have nothing to do with ethnic friction between Vietnamese and Hoa. Vietnamese people detest Chinese government and mainly mainland Chinese. Therefore Taiwanese often try to differentiate themselves from mainland Chinese to avoid persecution. Anti-Chinese movements started after the Sino-Viet border clash in 1979. Before that we see in old textbooks a lot of texts about the brotherly relationship between CCP and Vietnam Communist Party.
@@xs6702 That's your problem, I'm Vietnamese, we don't massacre Chinese people as you, and Indonesia's massacre of Chinese people is a barbaric, inhumane, immoral act...........Are you very proud? don't compare with Vietnamese people, Vietnamese people have nothing to do with you, we are people who always put morality and humanity first, Chinese prisoners of war or American or French prisoners of war. We all treat them very kindly, food, sports, clothes,... all complete,no torture 🤒🤒
@@xs6702good luck bro, i just see the guy own aqua talk alot about china lmao, these bat-eater always thinking for themselves, in Vietnam most of chinese now are viet, they look exactly like Viet 😂
The coming centuries will be different. People will be proud to be called as Chinese. SEA people will try to find their root to identify themselves as Chinese origin.
I also find it funny how there's a stereotype in the northern areas of the Philippines, where the Chinese Filipinos are viewed as those who were brought up from rich, mercantile families. I think it's a sort of zeitgeist, from the colonial/pre-colonial days in the Philippines when the Chinese and Japanese heavily traded with the tribes in the area. We're also currently finding out that the Philippine Islands were more influenced by the Chinese than we previously thought
@@outisnemo555 there are authentically Philippine things around. They’re either just harder to spot or have records that are lost to time. That’s where archeological evidence comes in. It’s just hard to find it in a jungle-island country with tribal roots unique to each island. It’s not the only country named after someone foreign. America falls under that same category.
We or some of ilocanos have slanted eyes not because of Chinese admixture... But because some ilocanos are also highly Austronesian DNA derived people like Igorots... Pure Austronesians are also very slanted eye mongoloid race derived people. The only reason why many lowland Filipinos have slanted yet rounder eyes is because of negrito admixture
Another great video Mr. Masaman! Humans always seem to want to group the inhabitants of different regions into as being homogeneous societies. Your videos do a fantastic job of indicating otherwise.
Chinese in indonesia dont want to marry local indonesian bec. they are stupid in many things unlike chinese in thailand or even in the philippines they even considered themselves as one of the local thai or filipinos. Unlike indonesia or malaysia where chinese hate them so much....from thailand
In the Philippines it is true they married local women and assimilated with them but they do not forget about their ancestry. I have a lot of friends and classmates who are Chinoy(Chinese Filipinos.) The one thing Filipinos hate are some of the new Chinese Migrants from mainland China they are somewhat stubborn, rude and do not follow Philippine laws. Recently if you watch the news Chinese Mainlanders and their Crimes have trippled from drugs, illegal gambling and extortion of their fellow Chinese who are local as of today are victims sometimes.
It is hard to know the exact numbers of people with Chinese background in SEA, for the several reasons you listed. I feel like there definitely is much much more than 30 million people with Chinese backgrounds...but they may not care too much about these labels or being counted as such. The Chinese populations in Central Asia and Latin America might be worth looking into. Both regions have unique histories and perspectives regarding people of Chinese backgrounds.
The Vietnamese name for ethnic Chinese, Hoa, is pronounced more like “hwa”. The name Tran is pronounced more like “Chan”. Nitpicks aside, great video. Thanks for posting!
@@faustinuskaryadi6610 no, nguyen in sino-vietnamese is 阮, which in mandarin reading is ruan. The 元 you mean is different word. If nguyen were typed in mandarin pinyin, it would be more like ngian
This video is wrong, Hoa in Vietnam did not arrive in Vietnam til much later. The first generation of Chinese in Vietnam were Han, specifically northern Chinese, then later southern Chinese.
Maksud loe apa bocah sok tau, malah malu maluin negaranya, culture yg loe maksud apa tong? Agama hindu saja gagal total di mari, dan juga agama kristen sejak 1900 lebih banyak di banding agama hindu, lue mau ya negara loe di bandingin sama negara tersebut yg terkenal buruk dan jorok, dasar bodoh.
@@saintkun2708 no, it's because we have no power in this regard. look at what happened to ahok and what happened to us back in 1998. we are the black sheep of indonesia, an easy target for indonesians' dissatisfaction with the government
@@meiguimeiguiwoaini just accept the fact that chinese population is very low, that is why it is very hard for chinese to become a leader in Indonesia which is majority in Indonesia is Java. You can see all of indonesian's presidents is from Java. Even me, as a bugisnese and muslim feel that it will be hard for us to send our people to become a president in Indonesia
Raya and the Last Dragon is set in Southeast Asia but most actors besides Raya’s actor (Kelly Marie Tran) are East Asian origins and A lots of Chinese people lives in Southeast Asia like the majority people in Singapore
North Vietnam can be considered as EA instead of SE, and in fact Burma and Thai people were originally came from China, Burma people even had same ancestors with the Han, Yet their language are all Sino-Tibetan language, SE are mixed by Chinese and Oborigibes khmr people
all vietnamese family name can translate in to chinese lol , even my family name le can translate to chinese . ( inoue cant could it japanese family name and japan family name cant translate to chinese )
There are not much Han Chinese in Vietnam today was because in 1979, war broke out between the two countries. Many Han-Chinese were forced to leave the country. Many sold their home to the Vietnamese pennies on a dollar before 1978. During the war in 1979, the Vietnamese soldiers often asked they Han a simple question, "why are you still here if your country (China) is attacking us"? Many Han people abandoned their homes and had to pretend they were other minorities such as the Hmong or Mien, especially in the war zone near the border, otherwise they will be accused of Chinese spies and/or shot to dead.
Really sad. My mother (living in Hanoi) told me that she knows many Chinese neighbours who were forced to leave the only country they knew. A sad chapter of history.
I knew a few families from Hanoi back in 1979, they didn't go back to China when war broke out. They left Vietnam by boat. They went to Hong Kong. It was a dangerous journey because the boat they were on was not a big ship, but small sailboat.
well it war shit happend which is sad , it also doesnt help that many chinese vietnamese in the army defect ( 2 famous case of chinese vietnamese soldier , one is pilot who flee in uh1 with his wife and his friend try to fly to hongkong but land in china , many stay in china , only few chose to go to america ( that really made the army not allow chinese to become pilot/helicopter pilot )and highly mistrust of chinese in any rank position , the second one is the a chinese vietnamese pilot stole a c130 and fly his family/ friend to singapore , all this case from the 80s ( just knew this dual to read from thanh nien new paper about vietnam hijack history ) some chinese also did spy for the chinese govt ( not normal hoa people , but the rich one ) + there also a guy in high ranking govt who are spy for chinese later flee to bejing and die there in 2004 if i remember correct ( he also a chinese vietnamese ) no wonder the govt fear , that why american jail all japanese american in ww2 . good thing is the chinese vietnamese now day is pro vietnam ( heck if they can endure 1979 period then they must be really see them self vietnamese more than chinese ) of the 3 chinese vietnamese i knew they all consider them self vietnamese ( but also vietnamese 1 , then hoa ) they are super assimilate ( just like us , the only diffirent maybe they grandparent still speak cantonese or hokkien parent too , but i doubt they can speak any lol )
inoue jerry This is actually noticeable in all colonized areas. Where the local colonized people actually become "reverse-racists" themselves... they all aspire to be British, American, and actually look down their own heritage and race (such as Chinese and Indian).
Incredibly fascinating, i've had a lot of southeast asian friends, for some reason, growing up but i was pretty much oblivious to the history of colonization until i started paying attention.
Good video. Maybe you should do one about why the Chinese in these places are rich. It’d be good to see a video about Indian influences in the region too although that’s more historical, as well as Indians elsewhere eg Africa. Cheers
It surprised me a lot.When we found out and also ancient Thai people had DNA associated with northern Chinese people. (Thai ancient people are half Chinese). The latest information on ancient DNA ... Prof. Dr. Viphu also took a sample of ancient DNA in Pangmapha District, Mae Hong Son Province, 1,600-1,800 years old found that Pangmapha DNA has a 50% genetic ratio from northern China. This information goes into Thaipbs' UA-cam's topic of DNA, ancient people, cave-in.
www.nationmultimedia.com/opinion/King-Taksin-and-Thailands-Chinese-roots-30297153.html en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rattanakosin_Kingdom_(1782%E2%80%931932) There was intermarriage back then between Chinese Emperors and SE Asian Kings. During Ming dynasty some daughters were sent off as tributes, other times it was immigrants from Southern Chinese provinces. You can look it up on your own without me telling you this. No, I did not look up from Chinese book since I cannot read Chinese. I wish I could but I cannot.
@Bekos Upyo A large portion of Vietnamese population may have distant Chinese ancestors but not all Vietnamese. Vietnamese are 54 ethnics assimilated to the mainstream Kinh culture.
@@rudrigodiaz1099 Although, not all of it. Almost half is the West Philippine Sea, another almost half is East Vietnam Sea, and the bottom part is North Malay Sea. China wants to claim all of it even tho they should only technically own a bit up top, the part near China itself.
Coming up next: the Chinese People and their traditional love of lederhosen and accordion music. All leading up to the Chinese Oktoberfest of the Horse.
Good video, but I suggest you do not use the term "中國東南亞" in your thumbnail. While it's the same word in English, the terms "Chinese citizens" and "overseas Chinese descents" use different words, the former "中國人" and the latter "海外華僑" or simply as "華人". Using the word "中國" may spark disagreement among some people, especially if those people have strong affinity towards the country they live in, rather than the country of their ancestors.
I'm from the northern Philippines and I can relate to this video. I am Ilocano and have Chinese ancestry from both of my parents. The Ilocano people have assimilated with the Chinese for hundreds of years .
Not all slanted eyes Ilocanos are have Chinese admixture. It's possible also that they are Pure Austronesians like Igorots. You need to remember that pure austronesians are also mongoloids people. The only reason why many lowland Filipinos, Indo, Malay have slanted yet rounder eyes is because when austronesian arrived in this island they intermix to native negritos Austroloids people
You information on the wealth of the Singaporean upper class was absolutely shocking to me. I have thought that they had amass such wealth. Thanks for the fascinating information mas
The more welcoming the southeast Asian country to the Chinese, the more prosperous it is, and this is not by accident. The Chinese bring civilization and prosperity wherever they go.
Chinese civilisation and cultural traditions play a role in developing Southeast Asian countries but I would say it is one among many factors determining the development: historical events, politics, economics... In Central America, countries such as Costa Rica, Honduras, El Salvador all inherit the Spanish civilisation (with some indigenous cultural traits). Costa Rica is one of the most peaceful and prosperous in Latin America while the other 2 are violent and much less developed.
Tibet is not trying to get away. You are buying into western propaganda. It is the exiled monks and elites that are agitating for separation. Ordinary Tibetans are thankful for being liberated from slavery and servitude. Even Tibetans outside of China are themselves moving their border posts just so they can become part of China to enjoy the benefits that Chinese Tibetans are enjoying.
In the past the Chinese in Indonesia were very mixed with Indonesians and thought they were Indonesians and spoke Indonesian, but lately they are starting to be proud of their race and live in groups and have also studied Chinese a lot at school, the majority of whom are of Chinese descent and even in Indonesia. the tiktok application you can see how thick Chinese things are in them and when we say bad things about China, they will reply and even prioritize defending China from Indonesia when arguing and that's what makes me sad about it😥
I am Indo-chinese.. I ever go to Singapore, malaysia and thailand.. i saw many chinese there.. im so jealous and ashame with them because they speak chinese very fluent. Not like us indonesian chinese..
@@indrasusanto749 It is not about speaking Indonesian Do you think Indonesian family in other country were not allowed to speak Indo among themselves? The point is, speaking chinese is just like Javanese speaking Javanese language in Indonesia Why Javanese is allowed? While Chinese language was banned? Or other more clear example Why Arabs and Arab descendant are allowed to speak Arabic but we cant speak Chinese language? Just because we speak Chinese, doesnt mean we are China symphatizers.
@@rg9448 beri saya bukti kalau orang tionghoa dilarang bicara mandarin di dalam keluarga mereka? Karena tiak ada larangan untuk hal itu kecuali di depan umum semua orang wajib bahasa indonesia, oh ya kenapa kamu pakai bhs inggris apa kamu bukan orang indonesia?
@@indrasusanto749 It is in the public that matters. Most Chinese Indonesians in Java are not able to speak chinese languages due to that oppression. And that is still an oppression, no matter how you tried to argue that it is not. And yet no such treatment given to non-chinese descent. Javanese can speak Javanese in public freely, as well as Arabic, Sundanese, Balinese and no one cared back then This is UA-cam dude, and in international channel as well. Use English so everyone can read, respect the others
Hi Masaman, could you do a video on the golden era of the malay world? The malay world is often viewed as nothing before colonization arrived and mass migration occured. Surprisingly this skewed view is also adopted by my fellow Singaporeans who are Chinese. TBH, while what you mentioned in the video is true, like Chinese in SEA being more economically affluent than the natives, it did strike a cord. We are really chill and comfortable people but we have to do better. In Singapore, we Malays don’t learn that Malay is part of the bigger Austronesian group of languages. I only found out a few years ago having read that up myself. I hope you can shed some light on this. Thank you!
Super interesting video ! I have cantonese ancestor from Saigon vietnam, during the war, some went to hk, north america, or France ! Wow I didn’t knew there was so many ethnic chinese in java… that crazy I never heard about that.
Actually Vietnamese are considered eastern asians too, oriental people, easterners, chopstick users due Vietnamese have been immigrants of China throughout history to become Vietnam today, there their look n culture very much Chinese, slightly different just as difference between among Chinese too due each region of China got their own Chinese culture n people.
It surprised me a lot.When we found out and also ancient Thai people had DNA associated with northern Chinese people. (Thai ancient people are half Chinese). The latest information on ancient DNA ... Prof. Dr. Viphu also took a sample of ancient DNA in Pangmapha District, Mae Hong Son Province, 1,600-1,800 years old found that Pangmapha DNA has a 50% genetic ratio from northern China. This information goes into Thaipbs' UA-cam's topic of DNA, ancient people, cave-in.
When many Southeast asian want chinese blood meanwhile filipinos don't care about it. I know philippines history cannot complete without chinese. They didn't colonized our country but they occupied for over 1000 years from 9th century to 19th century and by 20th century they announced as local chinese.
Indonesian is one country with significan chinese population others place/city in indonesia like singkawang 70% is chinese,bangka,belitung,jakarta,semarang,pangkalpinang,pontianak and etc. when jakarta eassy to find chinese rich,poor ... im native indonesian, we love peace no discriminasi ✌
Tiana Nanae Chinese in indonesia dont want to marry local indonesian bec. they are stupid in many things unlike chinese in thailand or even in the philippines they even considered themselves as one of the local thai or filipinos. Unlike indonesia or malaysia where chinese hate them so much....from thailand
@@NoobZilentGamerTVOfficial your comment make me laugh thats crazy opinion, chinese migrated here in indonesia are over century a.d and married with local and the oldest in s.e.a based in indonesian kingdom history. As far i know the most stupid is chinese filipin and back in 1970 indonesia is the most favourite destination for chinese diaspora.
Like what you said, Chinese in the Philippines have been assimilated in the archipelago for so many years that a lot of us don't even realize that we have some Chinese in our blood. I've seen some Filipinos who believe they're pure Southeast Asian austronesian, but turns out they still have some Chinese blood in them when they do a test. Even some of our new year traditions are Chinese, like putting round fruits in a bowl, eating sticky rice, keeping doors and windows open to allow good fortune, and even the eat long noodles = long life, all without realizing the traditions are originally Chinese. I believe there's a Cross adorned with jasmine, and right in front of it is a bowl with people burning sticks of incense on it, which to me seems like a big sign of how Chinese and Filipinos assimilated well all those centuries ago.
Montagnards indigenous Central highland of Vietnam and northeast Cambodia is the native , we are related Polynesian Austronesian roots. Don’t confuse between Montagnards tribes and Vietnamese.Vietnamese people is not part to our Montagnards tribes, they are related to Chinese roots, they eat Chinese food , dressed Chinese clothes , they are preserved Chinese culture.
The Filipino with chinese ancestry are pretty much from an old chinese family, most of them are either 4th-5th generation nowadays and they already intermix with local filipinos, so they are now more identified as Filipinos. Their chinese bloodline is probably decreasing but their culture remains alive.
In the Philippines, Chinese and Spanish ancestry mostly go hand in hand but Chinese ancestry is much more stronger for some Filipinos. Some Filipinos have just a drop of Spanish ancestry.
This is pretty well-know in Southern China -- particularly in Fujian and Guangdong provinces. Most people there have some relative or friend who migrated to Southeast Asia. Mark Zuckerberg's in-laws are ethnic Chinese from Vietnam.
As I remember, China and Japan competed for influence even before the fall of the Tang dynasty(with Korea being the primary target of their competition)
Sprie Spear Which is why I said they competed for influence even before the fall of the Tang right? That competition partly ended after the Baekgang conflict.
In Malaysia, you can pretty much say that many non-Chinese see the minority Chinese as the 'Jews of SE Asia', since most influential Chinese do fit the Jewish stereotypes, like their love for wealth, economic dominance, and persistence at keeping themselves separate from other non-Chinese in many domains, including education, residence and trade. Not all Chinese are like that though, with many of them being extraordinarily ordinary. But the few who do have that stereotypical behavior are politically strong enough to exert this kind of perception.
Yussairi Khairil . you forgot to mention their Higher IQ compare to Native country they host just like the Jews in Europe . BTW i'm not Chinese
That could be true. It's the immigrant survivalism behavior, seen in almost any minority diaspora colonies including the Chinese. But I would say that such higher intelligence are evident only in the first or second generations though. Later generations are just reaping up the benefits gained from the work of the early generations without having much difference compared to non-minorities, apart from the economic advantages of course.
Yussairi Khairil . may be you are right . I mean look at the later generations they look MIXED with the native population
Not really. In some countries like Phillipines and Indonesia, the later generation do have significant assimilation at cultural and biological level, but not in some other countries like Malaysia and Vietnam. In Malaysia, for example, Chinese-native intermarriage are quite rare, and it is still common to see Malaysian Chinese not proficient in the national Malay language, unlike their counterpart in Indonesia.
Yussairi Khairil Nah, intelligence is a highly heritable trait. So while yes, additional generations of Chinese in SEA do regress to the mean, and are thus not as intellectually stellar as their earlier immigrant forebears, they regressed to the Chinese IQ mean, which is still about a standard deviation above most Austronesian populations.
I feel like it's important to point out that there are different groups of Han Chinese immigrants. Currently, the dominant Han Chinese people in the Philippines are the 'Minnan' or people from Souther Fujian. Most of the time, they aren't mixed and usually retain their Chinese blood because of ethnocentrism (..which is how parents force their children to marry other Chinese people). The first groups of Chinese immigrants in the Philippines are of Cantonese descent, and most of them were men. Therefore, they had to marry the local Filipinos women there. I feel like you should have placed importance on which Han Chinese subgroup you are talking about because Han Chinese themselves are already very diverse.
Interesting, Our ancestral lineage came from Amoi (now Xiamen), my great-grandparents fled Communist purges and famine according to them and their sons intermarried.
Ha! I always hear about the old, new, & newest Chinese in the Philippines. Old I would guess are the Cantonese who assimilated, new are from Fujian who prefer their enclaves, & the newest who are only here for business.
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The 3rd those young milleneals who are in Casinos, drugs, prostitutions being deported.
@jojo batikan you are abnormal
Stop dividing us. We are linked by our cultures and languages. Kanji character no matter which language we speak we always understand each other. We are 華人. Plus most ethnically Chinese around the world right now no matter which groups most of us can speak mandarin anyways.
In the Philippines, in order to label yourself as "Chinese" in the census, you need to have at least 75% Chinese ancestry. You did touch on it a bit when you mentioned that the relatively low number represented people of full Chinese descent. I'm about 1/4 Chinese but I don't consider myself Chinese. That is pretty common throughout the northern Philippines.
I am from north philippines and this video is accurate enough. I am satisfied
What cities are in the northern Philippines? And also there's only 27% of the population of the Philippines with chinese ancestry
@@Elvimber Mainly refers to the island of Luzon north of Manila. Also very hard to tell how many percentage of the population have Chinese ancestry. As the video states they have been interacting with the locals for more that a 1000 years.
I have a friend who is sure and so was we that he was pure Filipino-Austronesian decent until it turns out he has 7% Chinese ancestry so meaning he had a Chinese ancestor around 100-150 years ago and his family lived in remote areas of the country so. Should he be counted?
That 27% only refers to families around 3 or 4 or 5 generations ago. How about the 6th or 7th etc?
My point is unless defined to a clear set of rules we can't just assume that 27% is accurate.
One question: Does the census care more about your physical facial appearance(Phenotype) or your DNA ancestry test results like 23andme(Genotype)?
@@officialnyiyanmoehtet no, it's by traceable ancestors who have a solid Chinese identity. My mother could qualify as Chinese because his father has a solid Chinese identity, he has a Chinese but do not consider himself as Chinese and carry his Hispanized Chinese surname (his mother was super Chinese tho) so my mother cannot be considered Chinese even if she's half because his father already relinquished his being Chinese and chose to become full pledged Filipino. If someone has a better knowledge, correct me if I am wrong.
I'm Chinese born and raised in the Philippines and I studied in Shanghai for a couple of years and met other ethnic Chinese born in other parts of Southeast Asia. Alls I gotta say is Chinese people born in say Malaysia or Indonesia seem to detest the local population and would very much prefer to speak in English rather than Bahasa. Meanwhile, (this is based entirely from my observations) "pure" Chinese people in the Philippines seem to have gradually started to have no particular qualms in dating Filipinos or people who have no Chinese ancestry at all, which was nothing short of a taboo back then. I really think it's got something to do with religion. Malaysia and Indonesia are a majority Muslim population so Chinese people wanting to marry a local would have to convert and to my knowledge, even adopt an Islamic name, not to mention you can't renounce Islam after converting to it. Also, growing up I've noticed a large number of Chinese Filipinos are dual citizens to Canada, the US or Australia but would still rather remain in the Philippines despite the fact that the grass is obviously massively greener on the other side. I'm Canadian as well but I never identified as one because I didn't grow up there. When I asked my parents why they never emigrated apparently it was a back-up in case something bad happens in the Philippines or like the 90s Chinese kidnapping for ransom thing happens again.
ClapBoomBoom I live in Indonesia and there are 2 stereotyped Chinese Indonesian that I know, first Chindo that live in country side they are nice, friendly and living peacefully with us, almost nothing different even mixed marriage with the local are common thing but they are poorer than Chindo in big cities, second Chindo who live in big cities they are rich, arrogant, live exclusively and don't want to socialize with native people especially if they are poor. But they are speak bahasa Indonesia.
ClapBoomBoom Malaysia and Indonesia discriminate against the Chinese diaspora. Partially this is a reaction to colonialist policies, as the British and Dutch preferred to working with Chinese mercantile families above the native populations. In Malaysia postwar discrimination led to a Communist insurgency that was supported mainly by ethnic Chinese, and crushed at great cost by the British Army. When the Indonesians overthrew Sukarno, Anti-Communist fervor was stoked in the wake of the coup, and a lot of ethnic Chinese were targeted for their (mostly fictitious) ties to the Mao regime. So yeah the Chinese of these countries have a lot of resentment towards the indigenous populations of these countries.
Very true
jy jy
stop the hatred man, you are pure garbage. Is that an excuse for why you having a hard life now?
@@ikapuchino how come they dont live exclusively, as I know chinese is alway targetted in riot and discrimination... Their shops were burnt, even churches and temples... And As I know Jakarta formet governor Ahook, was jailed because Indonesian native practising blindly fanatic religion
I’m a Thai-Chinese. I love Thailand and pround to be Thai. Most of the Chinese immigrants in Thailand are now Thai in their heart. Most of them, including me and my family speak Thai language in everyday life not Chinese anymore. But we have many Chinese culture remain here, eg. food, festival. Anyway, nice information! Cheer!
Ps. I can speak easy Chinese because I’d learnt from school. 你们好！
So are u pure Chinese or partially Chinese?
I am half Thai and half Chinese. If I am in Thailand I am just want to be a Thai.
that's how all overseas chinese descendants should do... love your home country as well as your ancestor's culture... as chinese descendant, we have to be proud of the richness of chinese culture, history, and contribution to the wolrd...
Geng Wei if you’re proud of Beinh Thai, then stop practicing Chines culture or traditions, Adopt Thai Culture and call yourself Thai Completely, Stop using Ua or Lue while talking, stop using Ma or pa, use mae and Por, this is Thailand
Domestic Chihuahua you can be proud of being both...
I have Chinese ancestors but considering myself as a Thai but when I visited China the immigration officer said to me “well come home” it just make my heart bounce inside out. In a good way ,thank you ❤️
@Hoa Hát Di wait do Thais even consider themselves in indosphere? I thought all the Indian cultural influences we're wiped out or removed
@@chawrakaxom559 Well you're mostly wrong mate. Thai, Khmer, Lao, and Burmese argueably have even higher rate of the Indosphere Influece than Indonesia and Malaysia until this very day. I mean just look at their writing/script
We have both Indian and Chinese influences. I think Chinese is more in everyday modern life than Indian such as food and people by blood, Indian is sth ancient like language, culture and religion. I’m Thai :)
@@siriyatiansakul8027 Thanks for the Info and Sorry for the mistake. I'm Indonesian, so I made my statement based on what I observed in my country and with yours
Marcello Dominic no please don’t say sorry. What you said is true thai are heavily influenced by Indian esp Thai script. :)
You forgot to mention the Peranakans (aka. the Straits Chinese or Baba-Nyonya). They settled in parts of Indonesia and Malaysia before the European colonisation.
Interesting fact: there's a Jewish cemetry in Penang for the traders from Middle East, but there's no Jews left in the country (excluding expats).
Peranakan aka Baba Nyonya has no problem to write, talk and assimilate with local tradition and that's their pride. But it is different to Chinese. Oww by the way Peranakan aka Baba Nyonya dont call themselves Chinese.
Baba Nyonya quite exists here as well in Thailand
Jewish still exist in some parts of Eastern Indonesia, especially Manado (North Sulawesi)
@@elyasmalau and why is that? is it bcs of different timelines?
@@elyasmalau nope. I'm of partial peranakan heritage; my paternal granny cooks nyonya dishes which she learnt from her mother-in-law, who was a Thai-nyonya. Yes, most peranakans would self-style as 'Chinese' alike, though with the word "Peranakan" placed in emphasised conjunction in an effort to highlight their/our cultural differences.
fourth-gen malaysian chinese here. i still strongly identify with my han chinese culture and food and language, mandarin being my native language. take chinese people of malaysia or singapore, compared to those immigrated to western countries far later than we did to SEA, i believe that we are def way better at preserving our culture and language. but this is also thanks to the inclusiveness of our countries, we get to celebrate chinese new year as a public holiday here.
bcs in the western,those chinese assimilated with the locals unlike in malaysia
u should follow baba & nyonya/peranakan chinese..they came here hundred of years ago and assimilated with the locals until now
@@gamergenix5429 baba nyonya came during ming dynasty which is a few hundred yrs ago not thousand
@@ziyanglow289 my bad
So in other words you are Chinese who happens to have Malaysian citizenship, I mean that's exactly what I'm getting from your comment Take me for an example my family have lived in Norway for 2 generation and we don't call ourselves Norwegian and my children won't either unless we assimilate and intermarry with the locals
@@mohmu9 May I ask where your family comes from? Why do you think that you can't integrate into Norway and still keep some of the culture and traditions of your original country? And how comes that your family didn't intermarry with the locals? Is that just a coincidence or were you actively looking for someone from your own country?
Man, upload more often!
Still not enough
Toaster-800 and you are one of them?
You should do a episode about Irish of central and south America
Toaster-800 so no pink pill?
Romanian Székely I think that will be instagram or timblar
Singapore is nothing like the US, other than the fact that Starbucks is everywhere.
I would guess they do not feel bad about that.
He compared Singapore to the US. because he's been only to 1 South East Asia country, a Little-Red-Dot called Singapore. LMAO
Lol. Sings can be pretentious. What's wrong with kopitiam kopi O?
@@RUHappyATM sings???
@@ZacharyAlexanderGoh =singaporeans.
I think the reasons why Chinese people in Southeast Asia did not return to mainland China are because they might no longer have roots in the mainland, and the PRC sees them as foreigners and would give them a hard time earning Chinese citizenship as with any other foreigners. So it's easier for Chinese people to just flee to a country that's already multi-ethnic and have more open policies or social attitude with immigration.
during the 20th century, the prc did offer free citizenships to the overseas chinese from the southeast asia when the war happened and they were facing the anti-chinese sentiment in their country. it was actually quite easy for them to gain the citizenship unlike other non-chinese. in fact, prc are still taking overseas chinese refugees from southeast asia today.
Well they left for a reason. For my granparents that being the communist government. That hasn't change so no, not going back.
China is over populated.
@行客 u mean Chinese?
Did you know PRC government issued special long term visa only for Overseas Chinese who non-Chinese ethic can't apply? So, while overseas Chinese are now considered as foreigner now, it's still easier for overseas Chinese to stay longer in Mainland China compared to other ethnic groups.
In the US, I have met a lot of Vietnamese, Filipino, Laotian, Cambodian people who are anywhere between half Chinese to an eighth Chinese. Those Chinese sure get around.
I’m 7/8 Chinese and 1/8 Vietnamese. Many people don’t seem to understand that Asians could be of mixed ethnicity because we are so used to hearing “well I’m German, Irish, danish, etc.” and not “I’m Malay, Thai and Javanese.”
@@freshface2991and chinese them self are mix too 😂 200 year under mongol rule, 200 year under Manchurian rule
@@nguyentiensu3825 Actually, China is ruled by Mongol less than 100 years. But current Chinese are sure mixed of Han originated in "Central China" and various ethnic groups lived in North, East, West, South of China over last 2000 years.
@@KWu-fv9nz not only mongol lol. Han mixed with alot of central asian in the previous tang era (Ngũ Hồ)
@@nguyentiensu3825 胡说什么？汉族一直都是单一的血统，在古代中亚人被视为低等，根本不可能通婚
Now do Russification of the Baltics
why nobody says please ?
Please !
kaio siavish they're trying to, with moderate success
More and more russian women are released from trafficking captivity.
et 37 yes viva Baltic people
You're videos are great! I always wondered about these various subjects. I feel like through learning about different types of groups we learn more about the human race and we see people as they are rather then mere stereotypes. Videos such as these really get some good dialog going as well. Thanks for your uploads Masaman!
This video has no positive effect on overseas Chinese living in South East Asia. Please don't forget that poverty is race or color blind, there are alot of poor Chinese strugling very hard in Malaysia Indonesia and Singapore. Wealthy Chinese phenomenon has long been a racial issue and has been twisted by the ultra indeginious right politician in South East Asian to gain vote. Many local chinese has acquired South East Asian citizenship some for 4 to five genereation family member has SE Asian citizenship.Chinese SE Asian are loyal to their repective country and not to mainland Chinese. Many local Chinese are heavily persecuted eg 513 riot in Malaysia, racial tension between local chinese and indigenious tribe exist even those the local chinese hav tried their best to assimillate into local culture. There are many asdimilated chinese group known as Peranakan in Indonesia, Baba Nyoya in Malaysia and Singapore. Hope that Masaman can do a video to document the real situation and hardship that local SE Asian chinese face today.
Soon Wai Cheng hey it's not like the locals don't want to help the poor Chinese but MOST of the time the Chinese keep on saying their race is the richest and they have many tycoon behind them so that's why not many helped are channeled to them. Maybe they should learn to drop their ego first
saniy there are rich local tycoon , there are also rich chinese tycoon, they had tried their very best to reach their current status undoubtfully. The reality is overseas Chinese is just like the rest of local live a modest life, work hard to earn a living, but there are still institutional policy policies across everywhere including South East Asia which are not favorable to overseas even though they are no more mainland china citizen. They are local countryman born and bred in their born country. Government in respective country especially South East Asia should channel the aid to the needy people within their own country irrespective of religious and skin colour.
lol being rich is a damn? or your kind learn to progress and work harder?
Terence Lee, you are an idiot. Not everyone can be rich. Society like everything thing else social will be a bell's curve.
this video is made by the west people who are our enemy of course they do want to make the relation of east asian people worse.divide and rule thats that simple.
I am from Malaysia and I love racial diversity. My ancestry is Thai-Sumatran Malay. One interesting fact to share, Chinese ethnic in Malaysia have been preserving their culture and language for the past 500 years! Unlike Chinese in Thailand, Indonesia or Philippines who have been almost completely assimilated into the local native culture (e.g. Chinese in Malaysia still adopt Chinese names where Chinese in Thailand and Indonesia have to adopt local names), Chinese in Malaysia pretty much retain their identity even at subgroup level (e.g. Hokkien, Yue, Teochew, Hakka). Isn't that cool? In Malaysia, Chinese even have their own schools run totally in Mandarin and Chinese political parties. I would say, outside Greater China, Chinese in Malaysia are the most pure in terms of language and culture. Although percentage population wise, there are more Chinese in Singapore, Chinese in Singapore are more "westernised and anglicised" than the ones in Malaysia.
You proud of your racist society ?
Chinese in Malaysia is the most racist Chinese ever !
@@limhartono9343 how?
Indonesia is different from other countries, They have mother language and not bahasa indonesia, as well as that name applies not to Chinese Indonesia, but all tribes in Indonesia, if the tribes in Indonesia speak their mother language including Chinese speak chinese, and other tribe in indonesia use their name and mother language, then will there be an Indonesian state? THERE WILL BE NO! And now Chinese Indonesia they have become part of the tribe in Indonesia. Indonesia is diversity if you want to become an Indonesian citizen, you can't be selfish, only concerned with your local name and r mother language cuz Indonesia exists because it was created by a union of different ethnic background. Not like Thailand cuz thai people,Malaysia cuz Malay people.
So basically Chinese in Malaysia are untouchables
Write about the territorial evolution of the island of Borneo, please. How it ended up divided as an island of 3 countries
Lucifer 75% borneo is indonesian ..
Erm, no. Sabah & Sarawak are states like every other states in the Peninsula Malaysia so you cant say they are both countries. The only sovereign country in Borneo is Brunei, and only Brunei should be called a country.
Lucifer before Malaysia and Indonesia existed, Borneo was a bunch of countries especially Sultanates and Rajanates. Then came the Brits and the Dutch, dividing Borneo into two colonies. Brunei was already here for over 1000 years until it became a British protectorate in 1888. Borneo became what it is now is because in the early 60s Brunei chose to stay within the British empire instead of joining Malaysia in 1963 for independence because of several reasons:
1. The power of the Sultan remains limited to the Prime Minister if Brunei joined the Federation of Malaysia. That's the first thing he refused.
2. Malaysia has an electoral monarch from nine Malayan states where one Sultan is elected to be the head of State (Yang Di-Pertuan Agong). If Brunei became a part of the Federation, it could take YEARS for the Sultan to be elected as Agong. That's also a BIG no for the Sultan of Brunei
3. In 1962, Brunei also HAD to deal with a rebellion among some of its citizens who REFUSED to let Brunei join Malaysia. That influenced the Sultan to reject the idea of getting independence by joining.
Because of these reasons Brunei HAD to wait until it was given full independence in 1984. And that's how a third country (by sovereign standard) is born.
Sabah and Sarawak have the same status as Malaya (and Singapore). The federation is made up of 4 countries and therefore, not the same status as other states in Malaya. That explains why the court hierarchy goes from the Federal court at the top and followed by the Court of Malaya, the Court of Sabah, and the Court of Sarawak. Refer to Malaysia Agreement 1963 to find out more. It's pretty interesting.
It does not matter how one joins a federation/republic/state. Tibet is not a sovereign state because it was annexed by China. Or that the Donetsk People's Republic is an independent country because no one recognizes them. Or ISIS for that matter. The fact of the matter is to be a sovereign state you need to have your own
1) Currency
2) Army
3) Foreign policy and most importantly
4) International recognition
Sabah and Sarawak has neither of these and as much as I wish them to form a Republic or federation of their own instead of having to feed all their money to Kuala Lumpur, we are better off in Malaysia.
next is Indianization of SEA! from writing scripts to mythology, SEA has been heavily influenced by India
zhan_rand if only Indians could indianize they're own toilets/bathrooms.
Fck India. Please don't!
I will always prefer the Chinese.
DVD DVD DVD LOL
Think Positive ++
i always see you in every video throwing racist comments. India has done nothing wrong with SEA. So stop hating them.
Real Talk so Papuan are Tamil people?
Yes tamils indainized SEA and EA until Buddhism
Nothing to add from me, but that's why I love your channel, so informative and interesting. You help us travel around the world with a sort of history book. Great work.
I've learned from some Thai friends of mine that in Thailand many n people of Chinese roots consider themselves Thai first and Chinese a more distant second, speaking Thai in daily life and using Thai first and last names. Though one apparently has a lesser known Chinese name as well, I'm not sure in which situations it is actually used.
yes, it is true.. as the chinese control a large portion of the economy and political power it is only rational to take on local culture to appease the populous, just like how the mongols assimilated with the chinese during the yuan dynasty
Actually there are a large number of Thai people who live in Southern China. They look Thai and speak a Thai dialect.
Harry McNicholas The Dai peoples, they live in Yunan Province. Yunan Province used to be called Sipsongbanna, an Ancient Tai kingdom, taken over by Han invaders
@@limcharles9730 What are you talking about???? Some Thai politicians of Chinese descent even hate China,can you ask him what country he is in? I'm sure he has to answer that he is Thai, you don't know what it is,don't say it better.
This is absolutely correct. My mother is full Chinese however she is Thai. She was born and bred in Thailand. She speaks little Chinese. My mother's family had to change their chinese last name to Thai last name during Chinese communist era.
We are Malaysian Chinese, most of us proud as a Malaysian. Asimilation in Malaysia is not significant due by our political tactic. Race issue has been using by the major political parties here in Malaysia, that's why both vernacular schools and religion schools has been expanding even after 60 years of independence.
Identiti sebenar Malaysia adalah Melayu + Orang Asli + pribumi Sabah dan Sarawak +bahasa kebangsaan
@@muhamadamirulhafiz2852+Rohinhya, Afghan, bangla .....dan banyak lagi
@@rambutans5857 sedar diri tu skit, tak guna jadi rakyat Malaysia kalau kau terlalu sombong nak berasimilasi dengan identiti sebenar Malaysia
@@muhamadamirulhafiz2852 kalao Encik tak boleh terima sejarah yg dah berlaku, itulah hakikaknya. Banyak org² siam, org pakistan masuk dari Thailand ke kelantan selepas merdeka juga. Senyap2, tapi kami or g cina dan india masuk sebelum merdeka pun....
@@rambutans5857 kau mendarat di Jepun berasimilasi la dengan budaya dan bahasa Jepun, kau mendarat di negara Ukraine, berasimilasi la dengan bahasa dan budaya Ukraine, negara ni walaupun berlambak dengan orang dari luar negara tapi Malaysia tetap ada identiti asal, terima je la hakikat
Fascinating. I recently had my DNA tested to help solve the mystery of my grandparents' origins on my mom's side. Both grew up in the Philippines, but my grandma was an orphan and definitely wasn't Filipina. My grandpa had a Spanish surname, but that was most likely the result of the country being a colony. After doing some tests (and making a couple of videos about it), I found out my ancestors include the Amis of Taiwan, the Dai and Uyghur of China, as well as groups from Vietnam, Cambodia, Burma, Indonesia, and Borneo. Seems both branches reached the Philippines from different directions; it's just a matter of when. Even older ancestors were traced back to Nepal, Tibet, and ethnic groups in Central Asia and the Steppe. No Spanish whatsoever, despite the surname. The results didn't fill in all the blanks, but it gave me more leads to research. This video provided some insight.
Oh, and the other side of my family was traced back to Scotland, England, France, Germany, Scandinavia, and the Balkans. Because things clearly weren't mixed up enough already.
Spanish surnames were forced onto natives by Spain. It doesn't necessarily mean Spanish lineage.
Spanish forced Filipinos to use spanish last name that's why many Filipinos have Spanish last names but does not mean filipinos are mixed with them
@@realkingreyes5726 Thier is a record of given Spanish name for the purpose of tax. And thier is also real Spanish family name.
They actually had a choice to pick a surname but with limitation. Filipinos who picked a Spanish surname generally has this two reason: religion and assimilation. They thought having a spanish surname corresponds to being a catholic and to also assimilate with the colony for future. While other people who had native surnames either picked it in the (Claveria decree of 1849) or just weren't exposed to the colonization up until the US.
Chinese have been in the Philippines even before the Westerners came. People with Chinese ancestry but has Spanish surname indeed exists, I had several coworkers who are like this, I also had an ancestor from 1800s who is one. The thing is, if a Chinese converts to Christianity during the Spanish period, they may adopt a Spanish surname. A well-known sample was Jose Rizal's Chinese ancestor, who migrated to the Philippines in 1600s and adopted the surname "Mercado".
There are a'lot of Chinese people in Indonesia, yet a'lot of them chose not to register as ethnically 'Chinese' on censuses and the data stating religious belief is to an extent not justified, as according to the Indonesian law 1 must choose a religion, and some Chinese Indonesian choose their religion randomly fearing repercussion, this is true to a certain extent considering most of my friends and myself falsify some of our data to avoid unwanted attention or trouble.
Derry Darmawan What religion do you put down then, isn't Indonesia one of those Muslim countries that bans Muslims from converting to any other religion, wouldn't the risk of being found out as a fake/apostate worse than the discrimination for being a Buddhist/Christian/Taoist, etc?
JUST TRAPSUKI Indonesia isn't Muslim country we're secular and one of the biggest democracy countries! We have freedom to choose our faith without being forced and never ban people to convert other religions.
JUST TRAPSUKI lol ur twisting the fact he said bout choosing 1 religion n muslim majority. In fact that policy was born by a US-backed dictator in the 1970s to weed out "atheist communists" and discriminate chinese traditional belief as well (mind you, this dictator also suppressed Islamic political movements in the largest muslim population until 1990s) - what most indonesians missed tho, is that these same elites who started the discriminatory practice against the Tionghoa (Indo Chinese) also looted our own country with corruption together with Tionghoa Taipan (conglomerates).
Poor sheep herds called uneducated Indonesians... *im indonesian too btw, just pitying the state that were in*
Ika Faizah yeah i do agree that 'our country' is secular and democratic, but majority of the population aren't. it's clear that islamic extremism in indonesia is skyrocketing to alarming rate right now.
Ika Faizah
Except for aceh where you get beheaded if you are a muslim that convert to another religion.
Here are some of my views of why Chinese empires did not invade the southeast Asia for thousands of years.
1. Ancient China's economy depended on agriculture(peasants & fertile soil). In contrast, the the Roman empire's economic growth depended on commerce and manufacture(slavery) which led to endless invasion and wars. After 1000 AD, Chinese quit the idea of taking Vietnam back mostly because it was too costly. The taxes were never enough to maintain the army to defeat the bold locals from attacking from the jungles and blocking the routes. Even the mongols could not conquer Vietnam unless you burned all the forests.
2. Places like southeast Asia showed no threats to the rule of Chinese dynasties and no importance militarily. In contrast, Xinjiang and Inner Mongolia were places that every dynasty desired to conquer and rule, despite that these area are full of deserts and grass land.
3. Ancient China was too big and too busy to get itself in order just like the Roman empire.
About 2000 years ago, the Han Chinese started at the north, conquered the south China, driven away the local people into Indochina or turned them into Han Chinese. The process could be bloody and brutal just like what the Europeans did in America. I think this is the reason why some minority groups among the mountains of southern China have certain kind of connections with people in southeast Asia.
Have you heared about Lapu lapu? It probably drove your people back to the mainland....and might happen again in this generation of the so called 9 dash fake -----.
It was the Mongols with Turkic generals who conquered southern china, not the han chinese. get your facts straight.
It was rainy Hot heat topical decease that protect Mainland S.E.A.from China
Arya Latumba if you learn history.You will know that people in Mongolian grassland think they are an ancestor of Han people. In terms of genetics, the ancestors of East Asians and Southeast Asians come from Myanmar
@@aryalatumba9704 Qin and Han empire is actually built by han people，learn more history
As a Vietnamese I would like to make some clarifications:
1. Northern and Southern Vietnam have the same culture. We are the same people.
2. Vietnam started in the North and then expanded down South at the same time as Christopher Columbus discovered America
that is accent, not dialect, Northern and Southern Vietnam people can totally understand each other in conversation
Southern Vietnamese are more mixed with Cham/Khmer people. Now that doesn't mean Southern Vietnamese are unrelated to Northern Vietnamese and don't look like Northern Vietnamese, we are still blood brothers but Southern Viets can have more varied facial appearances. I speak with a Southern accent and identify myself as a Southern Viet culturally (i mean all Viets follow the same traditions but the people's mentality, the cuisine between two regions North & South are different)
@Vinh Bảo If you think your ancestors just went South and intergrated with the natives then you’re so dumb. They invaded Champa and killed the Chams and other ethnic tribes. They forced them to move South and highland. Same thing happened to Khmer people.
When The Viets invade Champa and Khmer, they rape and breed the Native Womens, which is why some Southern Viets today look Khmer or Malay
@@guyp9596 no , they just killed them all and pushed them to cambodia or might be malay. you can see their culture is everywhere in the southern vietnam
I think the Chinese were already established connections with Malaysia/Indonesia area before 15th Century? Zheng He set sail in the 15th century and stopped by the port cities in the area (like Java and Singapore) before heading to further regions
great video!
Well I agree with you regarding the chinese in the Philippines. Assimilation is so strong here that many chinese decent citizens can only remember their pure chinese ancestors but forgot their culture and language. Though there are still a significant number of Filipino Chinese who retained their cultures.
这也是菲律宾贫穷落后的主要原因，你看看以华人主导的新加坡多么发达？泰国四分之三的经济都掌握在华人手里，马来西亚前十位富豪有九位都是华人，他们不压榨华人，导致华人为他们国家的经济做出了巨大贡献，而你们贫穷落后的又低智商的菲律宾人去通化压榨比你们聪明太多的人，导致你们的国家永远贫穷落后，这是你们的愚蠢导致的
It's really interesting how influent a country or empire can be because of its expansion.
Basically, China is the equivalent of Rome in Asian world. Centre of civilization that viewed the rest of the world as "barbaric". The only difference between China and Rome, is that Rome fell, while China has not. It had it's ups and downs, it fractured for some time, but always managed to unite in the end. Chinese dialects within the country can be compared to various Romance languages. While official Chinese language would be equivalent of Latin, many of the Chinese dialects are descendants of Vulgar Latin in comparison.
And just like Rome influenced the outside world and even kickstarted civilization in the Northern Europe, so did China with South East Asian part of the world.
Nah, those who are traveling outside are oportunist who want to avoid hardship and prosecution and adventures. China are isolationist by default and anyone who hate that will leave and colonizing surounding area without their government support. Like Japan and Korea was founded by Qin refugee. Every time new dynasty begin there will be exodus of the formert dynasty. And stop with the crap that China never fell, China has fallen many times in the past and the today China have no relation with the first Qin empire. or the Manchu or the Mongols or whatever else.
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Chinese dynasties had basically no interests in "Barbaric" lands. And since Southeast Asian countries rarely raided Chinese borders, Chinese dynasties basically left them alone.
Yulus Leonard they all had to be sinolized when they ruled so basically China didn't really fell. All the conquerors had to somewhat understand or adapt to the culture before they began their invasions, otherwise it'd just be endless rebellions after rebellions and causes more trouble than it was worth.
Most interesting from an Aussie perspective Masaman! Many, many, many Australians don't have a clue about the connection Australia and it's closest neighbours to the North have had and have with China since before Capt. Cook (let alone Dirk Hartog) arrived!
Australians only paid attention to the Chinese when they felt 'threatened'... i.e. during the gold rush of the 19th Century, the Chinese arrived in numbers to do the jobs Euro-Australians felt were 'beneath them'; while today it's growing resentment for Chinese property investors not only buying Australian property, but pushing prices for houses, etc. out of local reach.
Videos like yours, go a long way towards redressing the ignorance many of my fellow Antipodeans cloak themselves in when they try to justify their intolerance of what they fear or don't understand. Thanks for doing what you do, and keep up the good work!
hello masaman! i love watching your videos, thought it was cool to finally have a video highlighting my background. i’m from singapore, half chinese, quarter indian and quarter malay! x
1/5 of Filipinos are considered to have chinese ancestry. I myself has Chinese roots in my mother side. They are Hokkien Chinese with family name of ANG
Okay, then you’re officially CHINESE must practice Chinese traditions, drop the Filipino traditions and Values, change your patriotsm and Nationalism to CHINA be loyal to CHINA
@HiItsMe-ip8cj Have you checked your Y DNA haplogroup? If you got haplogroup O, you might very well be a descendant of a Chinese man via immigration.
@@karlkun717
Filipinos have chinese influence but dont forget in IN GENERAL. We Filipinos are culturally, linguistically and genetically Austronesian not Chinese. I know Filipinos genes got impacted by han chinese genes but we still Austronesian MAJORITY we still genetically, linguistically and culturally Austronesian.
@@karlkun717halogroup O is also an austronesian trait...
@@Real_MamboWhich shows Southeast Asians, Chinese, Austrinesians, Austroasiatics, and Koreans, they are all just the same damm people. That's why playing that "we are different from the Chinese" card is idiotic when you share the exact same Y DNA haplogroup with the Chinese.
I do not know how South East Asians think about this matter, but i for one, hate it when people group up all of the East & South East Asian countries into one group.
South East Asia has a very rich history and culture, and it's very different from Chinese, Japanese and Korean culture.
If you live in Western countries you will become more conscious of this issue.
As Malaysian student, not all chinese are bad, i dont think they are because some of them are really nice, and treat me like their bestfriend, my crush is chinese, and he is so kind to me because he know that i really like him, and even he have a girlfriend but he still treat me like his good friend it is good to know him actually 😊
Sad to say...historically the Chinese race had left an undesirable track record in the political rivalry in Malaya(now known as Malaysia) of not accepting the Bahasa as the 'lingua franca' natively spokened long before the Chinese arrived. This is the real problem till today.
@@simonsimon2888 You got it wrong! Since when had the local Chinese not recognized the Bahasa as lingua franca in this SEA region? In Malaysia, since Bahasa is the national language and taught in school system, most modern educated Chinese are fluent and competent in Bahasa.
@@simonsimon2888 so what, we are proud to speak chinese as or lingua franca
@@simonsimon2888 go study the real history, Chinese actually arrive in Malaysia earlier than the Malays
When did the Malay monarchy of each Malay state begin? If, it is true, then the Chinese Emperor system should have been established, then. For the Chinese saying, "Know the face but not what is in the heart'. Sama sama rambut hitam, hati tak sama. Better to be safe than sorry. Hence, the Sino-Malay problems remained not accepting 'being borned in these Malay Archipelago' with the usage of Malay currencies. It is Chinese cheap labour brought here by the European colonists.
Bruh your channel is damn underrated hope you gets more recognition in future .
ur lucky u just found him as he started uploading again after like a 2 yr break
i was so starved of content during that break😭😭😭
Great video. As a Chinese American coming from Chinese parents from Vietnam. This video does a good job summarizing Chinese migration to Southeast Asia. I would note though that the majority of the Han Chinese immigrants were Cantonese and fujianese, which are culturally different from other regions of China. Primarily the northern half.
Martin Chow you must know that most Cantonese and fujianese moved from north China in ancient times
"Chinese parents from Vietnam" Why your last name is Chow? your parents changed to it, didn't you?
You've got it !The Chinese in the northeast are tall. It looks better than the southerners, but it is very difficult to distinguish between them.
most of"Chinese parents from Vietnam"when SouthVietnam collapsed 1975, so some one will "return" their chinese root and claimed that they are chinese, I think Vietnam just their shelter place to live and they will never give any relation about Vietnam ,
They are Han Chinese live in Southern Vietnam for business, after the fall of Saigon they are boat people(you can search in Wikipedia) then they move Armerica, wherever they so rich they control the economy Southern Vietnam, they married with Vietnamese people(Kinh), we call they Hoa, it's a beautiful name, sorry for my bad English
In my high school(Jakarta, Indonesia), at least half the class is of chinese descent. Nobody speaks proper Chinese and everyone speaks fluent English. The Anglosphere seems to be more preferred here than the Sinosphere(?)
forced as assimilation in new order era
Half chinese too here and have no idea speaking mandarin or hokkien
So they dont speak Indonesian?
@@hafiz8184 in international school so bit can speak fluently Indonesia
The Uralo-Finnic genetic marker N originated from South East China.
Terence Lee Indo-Aryans were iranic, nordics have nothing to do with them.
N marker is Y dna marker, majority of finns look like caucasoid nordic, samis are a bit mongoloid, and samoyeds have fully different MtDNA haplogroups. So we are not same but related.
She is a russian/korean model on my photo, but i'm very similar. I have a bit mongoloid eyes + light blond hair. Interesting but 95% of us have natural blond hair and light eyes :)
Terence Lee They speak germanic language. Indo-Aryan is different:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Aryan_languages
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Aryan_peoples
Asian looking finns have probably sami ancestry just like me.
Finnic Girl take a look at F1 Ferrari driver Kimi Raikkonen. He's a Finn and there is nothing Asian looking about him. I think you may be referring to the Sami people that live in northern Finland that look Mongolian-Asiatic
mark millward Okay but Mika Häkkinen have asiatic traits :) Samis are a bit mongoloid, but lot of them are caucasoid.
*mongoloid not mongolian!
Finnic Girl yes you are correct about Mike hakkinen I forgot about him. Forgive me for my terminology on Mongolia I'm new to this. I have an interest in this topic because I just fell head over heels (expression us 60yr olds use when we meet someone we have strong affection for) for a Hungarian-Romanian woman and some say the Hungarian language is a uralic language as Finnish is. I don't speak either so I don't know
I am filipino and my mothers middle name comes from chinese word which means eldest son. And I live in a place Vigan were it got its name from many origin. One of it is its from Mei an ( beautiful shore) and a known trading port for the chinese long ago. Now chinese influence is still evident and assimilated in filipino culture in this part.
Although I am Chinese, I think India and ASEAN countries have closer and more frequent ties in the history.When we look at the map, we can see that India is farther away from the Philippines than China. But in ancient times, the core of China was in the north of China. Today, Guangdong, the nearest province to the Philippines, was annexed and assimilated. India was not a country. The Tamils in the south of India are connected with Southeast Asia through sea trade. Let's not think that they are countries in history just because China and India are united countries today. India was just a geographical term before the British. Although China has always existed, its focus has always been in the north.I can also imagine that if the Europeans did not colonize, Southeast Asia would be assimilated by the Chinese, and because the Chinese have a unified tradition, so…We all know that there are a lot of Chinese, but in fact, that's because many ethnic groups have been assimilated into one nation.It may upset you, but I'm just saying one thing
Vigan actually has more native origins. It comes from Bigan, you can see it in the velarde map several centuries ago. Biga is a plant, also known as Biga'a in tagalog. In Ilocano, it is just Biga. "-an" suffix is of course a place marker suffix. The mei an you heard of is just a mandarin translation of hokkien bi-gan and this is a newer name that hokkien migrants named the place just a few generations ago to put in chinese titles of places and groups like schools and churches as a chinese translation.
So basically out of all the SEA nations the ones who treats the Chinese most nicely are the Filipinos based on the comments that I've read.
Well, we do have the oldest china town dating back to the 1500s
That's a cap
对中国移民很好的是马来西亚，马来西亚华人保留了中国的文化语言和饮食习惯，东南亚最发达的新加坡华人占据大多数，泰国四分之三的经济都掌握在华人手里，马来西亚前十位富豪有九位都是华人，尊重中国移民的东南亚国家都发展得很好，华人为他们的经济做出了很多贡献
An interesting point to note. Many of these Chinese diaspora in Southeast Asia preserve the "original" Chinese traditions which were largely lost in mainland China due to Mao's Cultural Revolution which purged many of the old traditions.
Just curious, could you name some examples? I feel like a neutered chinese person with no knowledge of our ancestor's culture.
Could you just name one "original" Chinese tradition that lost in China but preserved in SE Asia?
No, idiot you can't
What are those mysterious traditions? Language? Names? Identity? Or any other essential things you guys have given up
Chinese people used to worship their ancestors. Also there are many minor gods like Guan Yu or Guan Gong and other folkstyle religons. There are also many superstitions and belief systems.
@@da1stlangzai ua-cam.com/video/GCjWk3Q2WGk/v-deo.html
My dad is indian - chinese granpa chinese(hongkong) grandma Indian
My mom is thai - american
Mygrandad is thai grandmom is American
So im mixed indian chinese thai american born and raised in Thailand
you mix
It surprised me a lot.When we found out and also ancient Thai people had DNA associated with northern Chinese people. (Thai ancient people are half Chinese). The latest information on ancient DNA ... Prof. Dr. Viphu also took a sample of ancient DNA in Pangmapha District, Mae Hong Son Province, 1,600-1,800 years old found that Pangmapha DNA has a 50% genetic ratio from northern China. This information goes into Thaipbs' UA-cam's topic of DNA, ancient people, cave-in.
Btw "Hoa" is pronounced "Hwa" not "Ho-Ah." Other than that ty for the video!
In spanish when we refer to the eastern race (japanese+korean+chinese+filipinos+malayan...) we just call them Orientals, not asians, because they are un the eastern part of the Eurasia, the Orient. And we solved the problem with other asian races like indians, persians, arabs, ir even white people in Siberia.
Love your videos. Your channel content is exactly the type of info I always research as a hobby. I love learning about history and people.
I watched a 5 minute ad for you
Whenever I watch videos by Masaman, I end up liking the amount of information he gives us. But I don't know why, I also get this little urge to troll him.
I'm a Filipino-American (of full Filipino ancestry) and when you see me on the streets you'll see me as a Filipino but my mom, aunts, some of my cousins, nephew, and nieces look Chinese looking with light yellow and porcelain white complexion.
It happens because our natives friendly to visitors maybe just our natives got some knowledge in this visitors,and some our native begins to uhh like invasion but not that word .
late comment but let me enlighten you. There is NO pure filipino. philipino is just a term the spaniards called the locals living in the archipelago they occupied, then renamed it philip-pines (for king of spain/ king philip)
the original settlers there are austronesian, aetas and chinese merchants anchored in manila bay district, binondo city (i suggest you check the city)
your family are probably a mixture of austro chinese - sangleys thats why you have those features you mentioned. which is typical
@@jil2936 the first part of your comment you're wrong on history. The term "Filipino" was given to white Spaniard colonizers and their Philippine born Spanish children and mestizo children with native Philippine women. It's similar to the term Criollo for Spanish colonists living in Colonial New España (Mexico) and Ibero-America (South America). The native Austronesian Filipinos were called "Indios" by the Spanish during colonial times. I think Jose Rizal or the Filipino KKK revolutionaries (Katipunan) adopted the name Filipino for all Philippine citizens when they were fighting against the Spanish for their independence.
@@8bitgamer85 sorry but i disagree with you. even if that was true, (which it isnt), filipinos by default would look venezuelan, chilean, brazilian, costa rican, mexican, columbian... you name it
youre really going to say that when filipinos dont look nothing like spanish? the only reason why filipinos have spanish last names was becuase the spaniards forced them to for christianity. that, and perks to own land and businesses.
it had nothing to do with being spanish blooded and white spanish having babies with an austronesian
ALSO, indio was a term called BY the spanish to filipino and chinese children decent. other term used eas sangley
@@jil2936 I don't think you read my response right. The people who were called Filipinos during colonial times were the white Spaniard colonizers and the Spanish children born in Philippines and their Mesitzo children. The native Philippine Austronesian Filipinos were never called *Filipinos* by the Spanish during colonial times. The Spanish called the brown Austronesian *Indios* like they did with the Native Azteks, Mayans, and Andean indigenous Natives of the Spanish Americas. It was Jose Rizal or the KKK Katipnunan who adopted the name Filipino for all Philippine citizens during the Revolution. You probably never been to Spain or Europe before or met European Spaniards before. Look up *Casta system.*
I don't think Singapore is the US of Asia. I would think it's the Philippines because the culture is American. Singapore is more Chinese.
Philippines have adopt "many" American culture BUT don't be generalizing to much we are not culturally American😂😂. Philippines major dominance cultures is Austronesian because Philippines is home of Austronesian languages and house of Austronesian people
@@AsianSPI guess you overlook😂😂 or just ignore the American cultures in the Philippines.
American culture like our education system is Americanized, there's a lot of subjects are English than Filipino.
English is an avarage language in the Philippines when in comes to businesses.
English is a second language in the Philippines that widely spoken in the Philippines.
Certain values and lifestyle choices, such as individualism, entrepreneurship, and the pursuit of the "American Dream," have been embraced by some segments of Filipino society, especially among urban dwellers and the younger generation.
Influence on Politics and Governance, the American democratic system and political culture have moderate left a lasting impact on Philippine politics and governance
We have American loanwords
that's example of American cultures that adopt by Filipinos
I know the Austronesian is DOMINANCE cultures in the Philippines but we can't deny our cultures are mixed, we have Chinese, Spanish, American, muslim cultures and many others.
@@AsianSP my comment is referse on Filipino cultures.. Philippines adopt many American cultures then I added DON'T BE GENERALIZING TO MUCH WE ARE "NOT" CULTURALLY AMERICAN and I didn't mention Filipinos are culturally American that's reason why I comment that the dominance cultures in the Philippines is Austronesian...and I added more Philippines major "dominance cultures" is Austronesian because Filipinos in general is culturally, linguistically, genetically Austronesian.
The speed with which you put up new incredibly informed and interesting videos is really amazing. Keep it up
Ty so much, i love your videos
Anti-Chinese movements in Vietnam are recent events and they have nothing to do with ethnic friction between Vietnamese and Hoa. Vietnamese people detest Chinese government and mainly mainland Chinese. Therefore Taiwanese often try to differentiate themselves from mainland Chinese to avoid persecution. Anti-Chinese movements started after the Sino-Viet border clash in 1979. Before that we see in old textbooks a lot of texts about the brotherly relationship between CCP and Vietnam Communist Party.
So luckt vietnam, i hope indonesia also do sinophobia movement like viet
@@xs6702 That's your problem, I'm Vietnamese, we don't massacre Chinese people as you, and Indonesia's massacre of Chinese people is a barbaric, inhumane, immoral act...........Are you very proud? don't compare with Vietnamese people, Vietnamese people have nothing to do with you, we are people who always put morality and humanity first, Chinese prisoners of war or American or French prisoners of war.
We all treat them very kindly, food, sports, clothes,... all complete,no torture 🤒🤒
@@xs6702good luck bro, i just see the guy own aqua talk alot about china lmao, these bat-eater always thinking for themselves, in Vietnam most of chinese now are viet, they look exactly like Viet 😂
You should also do a video about the Indianization of Southeast Asia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Indian_influence_on_Southeast_Asia.
The coming centuries will be different. People will be proud to be called as Chinese. SEA people will try to find their root to identify themselves as Chinese origin.
There's a thing called ASEAN...to unite these countries and move forward instead of trolling around.
Maayong Aga well said
I also find it funny how there's a stereotype in the northern areas of the Philippines, where the Chinese Filipinos are viewed as those who were brought up from rich, mercantile families. I think it's a sort of zeitgeist, from the colonial/pre-colonial days in the Philippines when the Chinese and Japanese heavily traded with the tribes in the area.
We're also currently finding out that the Philippine Islands were more influenced by the Chinese than we previously thought
For a country named after a foreign king, is there anything in the Philippines that’s not foreign influence?
@@outisnemo555 there are authentically Philippine things around. They’re either just harder to spot or have records that are lost to time. That’s where archeological evidence comes in. It’s just hard to find it in a jungle-island country with tribal roots unique to each island.
It’s not the only country named after someone foreign. America falls under that same category.
We or some of ilocanos have slanted eyes not because of Chinese admixture... But because some ilocanos are also highly Austronesian DNA derived people like Igorots... Pure Austronesians are also very slanted eye mongoloid race derived people. The only reason why many lowland Filipinos have slanted yet rounder eyes is because of negrito admixture
Another great video Mr. Masaman! Humans always seem to want to group the inhabitants of different regions into as being homogeneous societies. Your videos do a fantastic job of indicating otherwise.
22% of Filipinos are actually decendants of Pre-Hispanic Chinese-Malay intermarriage
YouCan'tAlwaysGet WhatYouWant malaysian ,indonesian,thailand have significan chinese population.. when singapore 70% us chinese..
Tiana Nanae you're talking about Full blooded Chinese Southeast Asian. While i am saying Pre-Hispanic Chinese Filipino intermarriage
YouCan'tAlwaysGet WhatYouWant indonesian have many full blood of chinese years ago..thats why indonesian many look east asian
They mixed with Austronesians . The original people of the PI were the negritos.
Chinese in indonesia dont want to marry local indonesian bec. they are stupid in many things unlike chinese in thailand or even in the philippines they even considered themselves as one of the local thai or filipinos. Unlike indonesia or malaysia where chinese hate them so much....from thailand
In the Philippines it is true they married local women and assimilated with them but they do not forget about their ancestry. I have a lot of friends and classmates who are Chinoy(Chinese Filipinos.) The one thing Filipinos hate are some of the new Chinese Migrants from mainland China they are somewhat stubborn, rude and do not follow Philippine laws. Recently if you watch the news Chinese Mainlanders and their Crimes have trippled from drugs, illegal gambling and extortion of their fellow Chinese who are local as of today are victims sometimes.
It is hard to know the exact numbers of people with Chinese background in SEA, for the several reasons you listed. I feel like there definitely is much much more than 30 million people with Chinese backgrounds...but they may not care too much about these labels or being counted as such.
The Chinese populations in Central Asia and Latin America might be worth looking into. Both regions have unique histories and perspectives regarding people of Chinese backgrounds.
The Vietnamese name for ethnic Chinese, Hoa, is pronounced more like “hwa”. The name Tran is pronounced more like “Chan”.
Nitpicks aside, great video. Thanks for posting!
The popular Vietnamese surname is Nguyễn, which in China is Ruan. Also the Lý is similar to Lee in Korea.
@@nhi5102 Nope, Nguyen is equivalent to Yuan in Mandarin Chinese if you know to write it in Hanzi: 元
@@faustinuskaryadi6610 no, nguyen in sino-vietnamese is 阮, which in mandarin reading is ruan. The 元 you mean is different word. If nguyen were typed in mandarin pinyin, it would be more like ngian
@@xXxSkyViperxXx there is no ngian sound in Mandarin though, unless you are talking about Hakka.
@@xXxSkyViperxXx actually you can read 阮 as ruan or yuan in Mandarin, but it's Gon or Gen in Japanese.
This video is wrong, Hoa in Vietnam did not arrive in Vietnam til much later. The first generation of Chinese in Vietnam were Han, specifically northern Chinese, then later southern Chinese.
Here in Argentina the Chinese people work in their own supermarkets
And in their "chinese massage parlors" offering cheap sex and blow jobs.
Tobo, what is wrong with working in your own shop?
Geez, some comments are real silly.
@@ToiYeuYAHWEH hire vietnamese to server champanese
I am Indonesian, and i Think we Genetically More Closer to China, but Culturally More Closer to India
Yes bro that's true
Maksud loe apa bocah sok tau, malah malu maluin negaranya, culture yg loe maksud apa tong? Agama hindu saja gagal total di mari, dan juga agama kristen sejak 1900 lebih banyak di banding agama hindu, lue mau ya negara loe di bandingin sama negara tersebut yg terkenal buruk dan jorok, dasar bodoh.
@Teofilus Setia Wahyudi arab
#EASTASIANWANNABE
false.
chinese indonesians are certainly not "overrepresented" in politics lol do your research
Maybe because the chinese population is so low compare to the natives
@@saintkun2708 no, it's because we have no power in this regard. look at what happened to ahok and what happened to us back in 1998. we are the black sheep of indonesia, an easy target for indonesians' dissatisfaction with the government
@@meiguimeiguiwoaini Ahok is shitty like most Indonesian politicians.
@@meiguimeiguiwoaini just accept the fact that chinese population is very low, that is why it is very hard for chinese to become a leader in Indonesia which is majority in Indonesia is Java. You can see all of indonesian's presidents is from Java. Even me, as a bugisnese and muslim feel that it will be hard for us to send our people to become a president in Indonesia
@@sportlovers1508 gampang sih, pertama pemikirannya harus plural karna jndonesia itu majemuk. BJ habibie bisa jadi presiden walopun galama kok
Raya and the Last Dragon is set in Southeast Asia but most actors besides Raya’s actor (Kelly Marie Tran) are East Asian origins and A lots of Chinese people lives in Southeast Asia like the majority people in Singapore
North Vietnam can be considered as EA instead of SE, and in fact Burma and Thai people were originally came from China, Burma people even had same ancestors with the Han, Yet their language are all Sino-Tibetan language, SE are mixed by Chinese and Oborigibes khmr people
East Asian wannabe
@@somsaksompong689 Vietnamese don't give a fuck
If you do that your country gonna be poorest country among east asian countries lol
@@somsaksompong689 jealous
@@antislim6911 I think North Korea and Mongolia are still poorer than Vietnam.
Vietnamese Tran is the Chinese Chen/Chan surname, very very common.
Strangelove101 all Vietnamese surnames is origin from China, even mine.
Also "Chun" for Koreans.
it sounds very close to the Min-Nan Chinese pronounciation "Tan"
all vietnamese family name can translate in to chinese lol , even my family name le can translate to chinese . ( inoue cant could it japanese family name and japan family name cant translate to chinese )
Our Vietnam only call "Tran" surname , not fucking "chan/ chen" here, maybe you wrong with someone
There are not much Han Chinese in Vietnam today was because in 1979, war broke out between the two countries. Many Han-Chinese were forced to leave the country. Many sold their home to the Vietnamese pennies on a dollar before 1978. During the war in 1979, the Vietnamese soldiers often asked they Han a simple question, "why are you still here if your country (China) is attacking us"? Many Han people abandoned their homes and had to pretend they were other minorities such as the Hmong or Mien, especially in the war zone near the border, otherwise they will be accused of Chinese spies and/or shot to dead.
Really sad. My mother (living in Hanoi) told me that she knows many Chinese neighbours who were forced to leave the only country they knew. A sad chapter of history.
I knew a few families from Hanoi back in 1979, they didn't go back to China when war broke out. They left Vietnam by boat. They went to Hong Kong. It was a dangerous journey because the boat they were on was not a big ship, but small sailboat.
well it war shit happend which is sad , it also doesnt help that many chinese vietnamese in the army defect ( 2 famous case of chinese vietnamese soldier , one is pilot who flee in uh1 with his wife and his friend try to fly to hongkong but land in china , many stay in china , only few chose to go to america ( that really made the army not allow chinese to become pilot/helicopter pilot )and highly mistrust of chinese in any rank position , the second one is the a chinese vietnamese pilot stole a c130 and fly his family/ friend to singapore , all this case from the 80s ( just knew this dual to read from thanh nien new paper about vietnam hijack history ) some chinese also did spy for the chinese govt ( not normal hoa people , but the rich one ) + there also a guy in high ranking govt who are spy for chinese later flee to bejing and die there in 2004 if i remember correct ( he also a chinese vietnamese ) no wonder the govt fear , that why american jail all japanese american in ww2 . good thing is the chinese vietnamese now day is pro vietnam ( heck if they can endure 1979 period then they must be really see them self vietnamese more than chinese ) of the 3 chinese vietnamese i knew they all consider them self vietnamese ( but also vietnamese 1 , then hoa ) they are super assimilate ( just like us , the only diffirent maybe they grandparent still speak cantonese or hokkien parent too , but i doubt they can speak any lol )
inoue jerry
This is actually noticeable in all colonized areas. Where the local colonized people actually become "reverse-racists" themselves... they all aspire to be British, American, and actually look down their own heritage and race (such as Chinese and Indian).
That was our leadership is fault.
Incredibly fascinating, i've had a lot of southeast asian friends, for some reason, growing up but i was pretty much oblivious to the history of colonization until i started paying attention.
Be informed. There is a strong distinction between immigration and colonization.
divide and rule.make the people of asia hate china and fight each others and our west can dominate the world forever ! divide and rule .thats it.
Jade, don't forget that Sabah was given by the Brits to Malaysia instead of returning it to the Sultan of Sulu.
Good video. Maybe you should do one about why the Chinese in these places are rich. It’d be good to see a video about Indian influences in the region too although that’s more historical, as well as Indians elsewhere eg Africa. Cheers
In my classroom there are about 30 out of 40 have chinese descent, My school is located in Bangkok Thailand
It surprised me a lot.When we found out and also ancient Thai people had DNA associated with northern Chinese people. (Thai ancient people are half Chinese). The latest information on ancient DNA ... Prof. Dr. Viphu also took a sample of ancient DNA in Pangmapha District, Mae Hong Son Province, 1,600-1,800 years old found that Pangmapha DNA has a 50% genetic ratio from northern China. This information goes into Thaipbs' UA-cam's topic of DNA, ancient people, cave-in.
Can you do a video about Polish people in Haiti? Or do Italians have north African blood? Or what happened to Celts in Asia Minor?
I actually have a video cooking up over the world's most out of place ethnic minorities. It's gonna be a fun one!
Masaman cool 👍
Dante Alighieri hey I would love to see that and I'm from there(Ayiti)
Masaman Nice! Thanks for response.
Masaman cool
So much Chinese influence, that's why it's called the South China Seas. The Kings of Siamese kingdom were half-breed Chinese.
www.nationmultimedia.com/opinion/King-Taksin-and-Thailands-Chinese-roots-30297153.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rattanakosin_Kingdom_(1782%E2%80%931932)
There was intermarriage back then between Chinese Emperors and SE Asian Kings. During Ming dynasty some daughters were sent off as tributes, other times it was immigrants from Southern Chinese provinces. You can look it up on your own without me telling you this. No, I did not look up from Chinese book since I cannot read Chinese. I wish I could but I cannot.
It was called the Champa Sea before the West made up that name.
@Bekos Upyo A large portion of Vietnamese population may have distant Chinese ancestors but not all Vietnamese. Vietnamese are 54 ethnics assimilated to the mainstream Kinh culture.
Maps made in China called it South China Sea. We call it the West Philippine Sea.
@@rudrigodiaz1099 Although, not all of it. Almost half is the West Philippine Sea, another almost half is East Vietnam Sea, and the bottom part is North Malay Sea. China wants to claim all of it even tho they should only technically own a bit up top, the part near China itself.
Am I the only one who read "The Schnitzelnation of Southeast Asia"?
Some German colonies left?
sterotype is fat germans on beaches
Mr. Dr. Genius that's when the Germans forced sausages on southeast Asia?
yes you are
Coming up next: the Chinese People and their traditional love of lederhosen and accordion music. All leading up to the Chinese Oktoberfest of the Horse.
Good video, but I suggest you do not use the term "中國東南亞" in your thumbnail. While it's the same word in English, the terms "Chinese citizens" and "overseas Chinese descents" use different words, the former "中國人" and the latter "海外華僑" or simply as "華人". Using the word "中國" may spark disagreement among some people, especially if those people have strong affinity towards the country they live in, rather than the country of their ancestors.
ProjectMPoem Yes, we are of Chinese descent and not Chinese Nationals. Country 1st, race 2nd
Use 华人 。 u go Taiwan . 华人 oso can .
That's true just use 华人, overseas Chinese will always be 外国人 not 中国人, that's the fact
I'm from the northern Philippines and I can relate to this video. I am Ilocano and have Chinese ancestry from both of my parents.
The Ilocano people have assimilated with the Chinese for hundreds of years .
More like Chinese assimilated in the Ilocano population not the other way around.
why would ILOCANO ASSIMILATE IN THEIR OWN LAND???
What the fuck!!??? Why would we Ilocanos assimilated in our own land, aren’t chekwa assimilated to us Ilocanos?
Not all slanted eyes Ilocanos are have Chinese admixture. It's possible also that they are Pure Austronesians like Igorots. You need to remember that pure austronesians are also mongoloids people. The only reason why many lowland Filipinos, Indo, Malay have slanted yet rounder eyes is because when austronesian arrived in this island they intermix to native negritos Austroloids people
We should be proud were all part of this Human Family. We're all different in similar ways.
I'm such a nerd I actually yelled "Nice!" outloud when you pronounced Khmer correctly
All the Cambodians were like :O !!
That’s a rare one😂😂♥️
Hello Masaman. :)
Hey pal
Masaman hi bro
You information on the wealth of the Singaporean upper class was absolutely shocking to me. I have thought that they had amass such wealth. Thanks for the fascinating information mas
i am a sporean but.....
Funny how you talk about PRC as the former homeland of the Chinese emigrants despite lots of them wouldn't recognize as that x)
Well most of them do
The more welcoming the southeast Asian country to the Chinese, the more prosperous it is, and this is not by accident. The Chinese bring civilization and prosperity wherever they go.
Chinese civilisation and cultural traditions play a role in developing Southeast Asian countries but I would say it is one among many factors determining the development: historical events, politics, economics... In Central America, countries such as Costa Rica, Honduras, El Salvador all inherit the Spanish civilisation (with some indigenous cultural traits). Costa Rica is one of the most peaceful and prosperous in Latin America while the other 2 are violent and much less developed.
Polpot was half Chinese and half Kampuchean. He had the choice to embrace either but obviously rejected his Chinese heritage.
Tibet is not trying to get away. You are buying into western propaganda. It is the exiled monks and elites that are agitating for separation. Ordinary Tibetans are thankful for being liberated from slavery and servitude. Even Tibetans outside of China are themselves moving their border posts just so they can become part of China to enjoy the benefits that Chinese Tibetans are enjoying.
As individuals, there are some bad Chinese, but as a civilization, China has only been a force of good for the world.
Heil, whatever happened to your second name?
In the past the Chinese in Indonesia were very mixed with Indonesians and thought they were Indonesians and spoke Indonesian, but lately they are starting to be proud of their race and live in groups and have also studied Chinese a lot at school, the majority of whom are of Chinese descent and even in Indonesia. the tiktok application you can see how thick Chinese things are in them and when we say bad things about China, they will reply and even prioritize defending China from Indonesia when arguing and that's what makes me sad about it😥
That's because Indonesians massacred lots of Chinese back then
Indonesian hate chinese but thy r is chinese LOL
can you imagine why? ...
why did you tell bad things about China?
Why don’t they move back to China?
I am Indo-chinese.. I ever go to Singapore, malaysia and thailand.. i saw many chinese there.. im so jealous and ashame with them because they speak chinese very fluent. Not like us indonesian chinese..
Can relate to this. Kind of wishing to be able to speak and understand the language. Thx Suharto
Setiap suku di indo berbahasa satu bahasa indonesia kalau kamu gak suka pulang aja ke china gak usah ngadu di YT mudah kan.
@@indrasusanto749 It is not about speaking Indonesian
Do you think Indonesian family in other country were not allowed to speak Indo among themselves?
The point is, speaking chinese is just like Javanese speaking Javanese language in Indonesia
Why Javanese is allowed? While Chinese language was banned?
Or other more clear example
Why Arabs and Arab descendant are allowed to speak Arabic but we cant speak Chinese language?
Just because we speak Chinese, doesnt mean we are China symphatizers.
@@rg9448 beri saya bukti kalau orang tionghoa dilarang bicara mandarin di dalam keluarga mereka? Karena tiak ada larangan untuk hal itu kecuali di depan umum semua orang wajib bahasa indonesia, oh ya kenapa kamu pakai bhs inggris apa kamu bukan orang indonesia?
@@indrasusanto749 It is in the public that matters. Most Chinese Indonesians in Java are not able to speak chinese languages due to that oppression.
And that is still an oppression, no matter how you tried to argue that it is not. And yet no such treatment given to non-chinese descent. Javanese can speak Javanese in public freely, as well as Arabic, Sundanese, Balinese and no one cared back then
This is UA-cam dude, and in international channel as well. Use English so everyone can read, respect the others
Hi Masaman, could you do a video on the golden era of the malay world? The malay world is often viewed as nothing before colonization arrived and mass migration occured. Surprisingly this skewed view is also adopted by my fellow Singaporeans who are Chinese.
TBH, while what you mentioned in the video is true, like Chinese in SEA being more economically affluent than the natives, it did strike a cord. We are really chill and comfortable people but we have to do better.
In Singapore, we Malays don’t learn that Malay is part of the bigger Austronesian group of languages. I only found out a few years ago having read that up myself.
I hope you can shed some light on this. Thank you!
akak cuba layan video drpd prof Russia nama Dr Tatiana Denisova, dia pakar dlm sejarah Alam Melayu
Super interesting video !
I have cantonese ancestor from Saigon vietnam, during the war, some went to hk, north america, or France !
Wow I didn’t knew there was so many ethnic chinese in java… that crazy I never heard about that.
Actually Vietnamese are considered eastern asians too, oriental people, easterners, chopstick users due Vietnamese have been immigrants of China throughout history to become Vietnam today, there their look n culture very much Chinese, slightly different just as difference between among Chinese too due each region of China got their own Chinese culture n people.
越南是东南亚
It surprised me a lot.When we found out and also ancient Thai people had DNA associated with northern Chinese people. (Thai ancient people are half Chinese). The latest information on ancient DNA ... Prof. Dr. Viphu also took a sample of ancient DNA in Pangmapha District, Mae Hong Son Province, 1,600-1,800 years old found that Pangmapha DNA has a 50% genetic ratio from northern China. This information goes into Thaipbs' UA-cam's topic of DNA, ancient people, cave-in.
Ruler of Thailand only from China.
When many Southeast asian want chinese blood meanwhile filipinos don't care about it. I know philippines history cannot complete without chinese. They didn't colonized our country but they occupied for over 1000 years from 9th century to 19th century and by 20th century they announced as local chinese.
Indonesian is one country with significan chinese population others place/city in indonesia like singkawang 70% is chinese,bangka,belitung,jakarta,semarang,pangkalpinang,pontianak and etc. when jakarta eassy to find chinese rich,poor ... im native indonesian, we love peace no discriminasi ✌
Tiana Nanae Chinese in indonesia dont want to marry local indonesian bec. they are stupid in many things unlike chinese in thailand or even in the philippines they even considered themselves as one of the local thai or filipinos. Unlike indonesia or malaysia where chinese hate them so much....from thailand
NoobZkiTV 2015 no..u wrong. Today tons chinese in indonesia many married with local women/men
@@NoobZilentGamerTVOfficial your comment make me laugh thats crazy opinion, chinese migrated here in indonesia are over century a.d and married with local and the oldest in s.e.a based in indonesian kingdom history. As far i know the most stupid is chinese filipin and back in 1970 indonesia is the most favourite destination for chinese diaspora.
If you wanna find poor chinese in Indonesia just find in Borneo that's so many poor chinese.
Like what you said, Chinese in the Philippines have been assimilated in the archipelago for so many years that a lot of us don't even realize that we have some Chinese in our blood. I've seen some Filipinos who believe they're pure Southeast Asian austronesian, but turns out they still have some Chinese blood in them when they do a test. Even some of our new year traditions are Chinese, like putting round fruits in a bowl, eating sticky rice, keeping doors and windows open to allow good fortune, and even the eat long noodles = long life, all without realizing the traditions are originally Chinese. I believe there's a Cross adorned with jasmine, and right in front of it is a bowl with people burning sticks of incense on it, which to me seems like a big sign of how Chinese and Filipinos assimilated well all those centuries ago.
Interesting and thorough discussion Masaman.
Montagnards indigenous Central highland of Vietnam and northeast Cambodia is the native , we are related Polynesian Austronesian roots. Don’t confuse between Montagnards tribes and Vietnamese.Vietnamese people is not part to our Montagnards tribes, they are related to Chinese roots, they eat Chinese food , dressed Chinese clothes , they are preserved Chinese culture.
native of what?
Pretend to be montagnard.
Haha,I bet you are vietnamese
@@hagongda123 monkey black skin cantonese
Vietnam's minorities belong to Vietnam, don't touch VietNam, go away,🖕
Can u do one on south Asian people becuese we all look so different plz
Imagine the PRC pull a 'Crimea move' on the SEA countries...
The Filipino with chinese ancestry are pretty much from an old chinese family, most of them are either 4th-5th generation nowadays and they already intermix with local filipinos, so they are now more identified as Filipinos. Their chinese bloodline is probably decreasing but their culture remains alive.
Great video! Been waiting for something like this.
In the Philippines, Chinese and Spanish ancestry mostly go hand in hand but Chinese ancestry is much more stronger for some Filipinos. Some Filipinos have just a drop of Spanish ancestry.
I know this is 2 years ago, but I think ww2, err, lessen the Filipinos population with spanish blood.
Spanish DNA is FAR FAR FAR lesser than what you think.
My grand parents leave China to live in Cambodia after ww2 but now I become Cambodia
This is pretty well-know in Southern China -- particularly in Fujian and Guangdong provinces. Most people there have some relative or friend who migrated to Southeast Asia.
Mark Zuckerberg's in-laws are ethnic Chinese from Vietnam.
Awesome facts from the master! Salute to Masaman.
As I remember, China and Japan competed for influence even before the fall of the Tang dynasty(with Korea being the primary target of their competition)
Yujizakai // Horrors and gaming actually Japan were defeated by China Tang dynasty ( Battles of Baekgang)
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Which is why I said they competed for influence even before the fall of the Tang right? That competition partly ended after the Baekgang conflict.
Japan got highly influenced by china in tang dynasty in every area. Tang dynasty is the most prosperous time in Chinese history