17th CENTURY TOMBS OF BALOCH TRIBES | BAHWANI | BALOCHISTAN | PAKISTAN |

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  • The Bahwani Graveyard or 17th Century Tombs of Baloch tribes are located two kilometers from Hub Chowki, Baluchistan and 25 kilometers from Karachi, Sindhi.
    In this video, we guide you about this historical graveyards, it's history and the challenges the graveyard facing due to population expansion.
    People believe that these tombs belong to Baloch tribes and the numbers of ancients tombs 118. Separate design and layout made graves of men, women, and children. The exterior design of these graves look like the tombs Makli, Chowkandi, and Hanidan Tombs.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 398

  • @mohammednasir8869
    @mohammednasir8869 5 років тому +30

    ماشااللہ بہت خوبصورت علاقہ ہے ۔آپکی کاوشوں کی وجہ سے دیکھنے کا موقعہ ملا ۔اللہ تعالی آپ کو صحت و سلامتی دھے امین

  • @arminius6506
    @arminius6506 5 років тому +41

    Man this is one of this beautiful graveyards of Pakistan, never knew that it existed in Pakistan.
    Government should preserve it as national Baloch heritage.

    • @Ijazali-dh1di
      @Ijazali-dh1di 5 років тому

      Lasbela Sindh ka Area tha

    • @ahsanagha8862
      @ahsanagha8862 5 років тому

      Ijazali 5080 bro Lasbela Balochistan ka area tha

    • @Arbaz_baloch621
      @Arbaz_baloch621 2 роки тому

      @@Ijazali-dh1di meri jaan balochistan ka porana map uthao liyari tak balochistan tha jo k bhut sarra hisa sindh mn agia hy

  • @herfablife
    @herfablife 5 років тому +24

    Its our heritage. We should preserve them n govt should work on it. N thanks yo u brother. U r doing a great job 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @supportive5715
    @supportive5715 5 років тому +6

    Thank you for exploring Balochistan for us. Balochistan is our pride. Long live Pakistan

  • @riffatrafiquegujjar206
    @riffatrafiquegujjar206 5 років тому +3

    سیف بھائی بہت اچھی ویڈیو ہے آج کی۔ آپ کی وجہ سے بلوچستان کو قریب سے دیکھنے کا موقع ملا۔ بلوچستان بہت خوبصورت ہے بلوچستان زندہ باد پاکستان پائندہ باد۔ رفعت رفیق ضلع فیصل آباد حال مقیم ملیشیاء

  • @M9StudiosAndPhotograpy
    @M9StudiosAndPhotograpy 5 років тому +19

    Proud Of You sir
    . You are Promoting Balochistan..
    ❤❤❤❤

  • @alwayssmile2607
    @alwayssmile2607 5 років тому +47

    We Balochs should protect our heritage our identity. We should protect Mehrgadh as well which is also not preserved by the government.
    We shouldn't let this fade away this is our civilization. Mehrgadh is 9000 years old. We should preserve it.

    • @xaharrehman9099
      @xaharrehman9099 5 років тому +4

      Right....not only baluchiz but as a human being we must restore our heritage. Pakistan is an extremely rich country in all aspects, ALHAMDULILLAH. ALLAH help n protect us all, Ameen summa Ameen!!!!

    • @42akasha
      @42akasha 5 років тому +2

      how can you do it... may be enhance tourism and get security gates around it, take tickets from tourists and arrange some local musical and food Point nearby... and keep peace... don't fight among each other

    • @leisureclub_
      @leisureclub_ 5 років тому

      Dont say Govt. but say Some Politicians which get funds for these type of things but they do corruption...

    • @ArmanKhan-cy7bq
      @ArmanKhan-cy7bq 5 років тому

      U r ri8 ,bro , love for balochistan

  • @t.a.k5244
    @t.a.k5244 5 років тому +8

    Balochistan and sind are very rich cultures I hope to visit them one Day. Here in southern Europe (Greece, Italy, Spain) Turkey Much of the economy goes with tourism and culture, unfortunately in our countries the government does not give importance.

  • @lopi7935
    @lopi7935 5 років тому +11

    ماشاءاللہ سیف اللہ آپ بہت اچھا کام کر رہے ہو اللہ پاک آپ کو سلامت رکھے آمین

  • @hudaarif1370
    @hudaarif1370 5 років тому +2

    Thank you for showing the beauty of Balochistan, as an Overseas Pakistani I was not aware of the beauty of Balochistan and other areas. Please continue to make more videos like these 🍀

  • @qarimuhammadayoubkhan7806
    @qarimuhammadayoubkhan7806 4 роки тому

    واؤ کیا خوبصورت ہے یہ علاقہ کمال ہے قدرتی حسن سے مالامال سبحان اللہ اور آپ کا اس طرح ویڈیوز بنانا اور ہم کو دیکھانا ہم آپ کے شکر گزار ہیں

  • @usman_ghuman
    @usman_ghuman 5 років тому +3

    خوبصورت بلوچستان 😻

  • @aliismine
    @aliismine 4 роки тому +1

    *Indeed, Pakistan is the most peaceful and beautiful tourism site in the world. Gracious*

  • @imranwarraich6033
    @imranwarraich6033 4 роки тому

    Good effert
    Ap ki meherbani se hum balochistan ka visit kar rahe han
    Balochistan ki sair kar rahe han
    Allaha ap ko jazaye hair de ameen

  • @samdil7102
    @samdil7102 5 років тому +6

    You should also add English subtitles as many other nationals watch your channel. So it will be more easy and good for them and they can understand all the precious information you are giving

  • @alwayssmile2607
    @alwayssmile2607 5 років тому +17

    I love you my Balochistan.

    • @alwayssmile2607
      @alwayssmile2607 5 років тому +1

      @@moviesmovies6796 I am a Baloch.

    • @alwayssmile2607
      @alwayssmile2607 5 років тому +1

      @@moviesmovies6796 Yes it is place for Balochs and I am a Baloch.

    • @faranqamar8130
      @faranqamar8130 5 років тому

      @@alwayssmile2607 humain humry Baloch qoum sai bhot pyar sai. Acha diya! haahaah

    • @ArmaanFazal
      @ArmaanFazal 5 років тому

      @@moviesmovies6796
      Gaand fatti keh nhi...jawab sunkar

  • @owaisvlog102
    @owaisvlog102 5 років тому +10

    Asalam alikum sir apk vlogs ache hote Hain AP jaldi jaldi upload Kia kareen shukriya

  • @ShahmeerNaqvi110
    @ShahmeerNaqvi110 5 років тому

    Mashallaah App Bht Acche Coverage Kar Rahe Han Baluchistan Or Baluchistan Bht Khubsurat Sobhah Ha Hmay Zada Sa Zada Baluchistan Ke Sakhafat Ko Frok Dyna Chaia Takay Heritage Mazeed Phelay

  • @1stblindlover
    @1stblindlover 5 років тому +21

    Ya Allah mere Pakistan ky har ilaqay ko taraqi aur khushhali ata kar

  • @karimbukhsh1
    @karimbukhsh1 5 років тому +1

    Great information shared by you Allah bless you and more information share about Baloch Tribes and different culture between Sindh & Balouchistan, Great work well Done
    From
    Your Sindhi Brother

  • @Iffaatsyad
    @Iffaatsyad 4 роки тому

    بہت خوبصورت ہے ہر دور میں ترقی ہوئی پھر انسان اپنی حدوں سے نکلے تو الللہ نے مٹا ڈالا سب فانی ہے

  • @surviving101
    @surviving101 5 років тому +7

    the fact that you not only film it but study your location. Explaining bit of archeology, material science and history

  • @sumeetkumar8214
    @sumeetkumar8214 5 років тому +4

    Long time no see. Hope all well. Best line was " Kudrat ka kum aur insani haath" 🙏💕
    History should be preserved and art was so precious.

  • @aqeelawan
    @aqeelawan 5 років тому +4

    Aslamoalaykum, Love from Portugal, brother aap ki har video ka imtezar rehta hai.... har video main Balochistan ka kuch naya dekhne ko milta hai... Allah Pak aap ko hush rakhe, aameen

  • @alwayslivesheikh5709
    @alwayslivesheikh5709 4 роки тому

    mohammed nasir
    6 months ago
    ماشااللہ بہت خوبصورت علاقہ ہے ۔آپکی کاوشوں کی وجہ سے دیکھنے کا موقعہ ملا ۔اللہ تعالی آپ کو صحت و سلامتی دھے امین

  • @StudentWorkForce
    @StudentWorkForce 5 років тому +2

    I love balochistan

  • @bilalashfaq3205
    @bilalashfaq3205 5 років тому +1

    Thanks bhai for amazing video, this history should be preserved !

  • @fatimajabeen8037
    @fatimajabeen8037 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for sharing your beautiful historical Videos

  • @pradeeppatel1948
    @pradeeppatel1948 5 років тому +10

    Its so beautiful, I'm from #INDIA

  • @NahedKashmiri
    @NahedKashmiri 5 років тому

    Good to see you again, you are doing good job by exploring and sharing Balochistan historical areas and many other famous places. I really enjoy your simplicity and the way you present .

  • @AngelaCarson
    @AngelaCarson 4 роки тому

    OMG how did I miss this on my way up from Karachi? Saif!!! haha This is amazing. Might do it as a day-trip from Karachi in Feb :-) Great video.

  • @muhammadhanifbaloch4430
    @muhammadhanifbaloch4430 5 років тому +1

    Nice video, looked good. Federal government and provincial government of Balochistan should take step to save this old historical cemetery. Thanks Balochistan: Land of Beauty

  • @sahiwalboy
    @sahiwalboy 5 років тому +1

    You are making very good videos best wishes from Republic of Ireland 🇮🇪

  • @videosandmusicentertainmen314
    @videosandmusicentertainmen314 5 років тому +4

    I like ur videos. Especially wen u make on historical places. I hope baloch peoples they will protect their heritage.

  • @rubinaabid8541
    @rubinaabid8541 5 років тому

    First time dekh rahay hain bht shukrya

  • @muhammadhaneef8154
    @muhammadhaneef8154 5 років тому

    زبردست ماشاءاللہ بہت ہی عمدہ

  • @blackbirdadventure
    @blackbirdadventure 5 років тому

    bht maloomati video hai,
    Allah hamarey hukumrano ko hidayat dey,

  • @atifkamal4061
    @atifkamal4061 4 роки тому

    Very amazing and full of historic information

  • @haiderabbas1519
    @haiderabbas1519 5 років тому

    Hope you are fine.
    I always waiting for your videos because it gives me a deep insight of our great Baluchistan. I am referring your videos to my friends as well. Mashalla you are doing the best work on Baluchistan. Keep it up my friend.

  • @sajjadshah281
    @sajjadshah281 5 років тому +1

    Walaikumsalaam.
    Zabardast bhaion
    Salaam hai Ap ko Aur Ap ki pori team ko. Bohat Hi zabardast.👍
    Yahan to zaror jain ge.

  • @akbarsaif6240
    @akbarsaif6240 4 роки тому

    Very nice dear yey mery goth Abbas gadoor k nazdek be bot sari qabry hain shayed sab say zeyada yahee hay

  • @raghibsohail880
    @raghibsohail880 4 роки тому

    I really appreciate your efforts to highlight our beautiful palaces with good information

  • @sajidasultansyed1774
    @sajidasultansyed1774 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for this informative program,government should take action.

  • @Jamshedac-gf4bh
    @Jamshedac-gf4bh 5 років тому +1

    ham keh saktey hain khoubsourat Qabreen lajawab naqshnigari zabardast kaam houva hai bari mehnat se ham dua karte hain TABDEELI(read management)Pakistan ke sarey Qabarstanoon pe be ponch jaay Ameen

  • @drkhan2337
    @drkhan2337 5 років тому

    It is treasure of knowledge for new generation.... to know about the ancient history of their own land

  • @zianicahrizianicahri8002
    @zianicahrizianicahri8002 5 років тому

    واہ سرجی اللہ پاک آپکو سلامت رکھے ہمیشہ

  • @abdulrasheed-tp9ov
    @abdulrasheed-tp9ov 4 роки тому

    شکریہ کہ اپ کی وجہ خوبصورت بلوچستان کو دیکھنے کا موقع ملا کچھ اور لوگوں کی ویڈیوز بھی دیکھیں لیکن جو تفصیل آپ نے دی پھر عکس بندی بھی کمال ہے آپ کا رابطہ نمبر

  • @abdulazizkalmati2124
    @abdulazizkalmati2124 2 роки тому

    Great to see my tribe's culture 😍

  • @gullkhan4867
    @gullkhan4867 5 років тому

    Zabrdst cemra shoot

  • @Richbuddiespro
    @Richbuddiespro 4 роки тому

    Wah historical place kaise bd naseeb log ha ke hme koi acha hukmaran ni mila Allah hm pr rehm kre aur awam ko shaur ata kre

  • @ik190
    @ik190 5 років тому +1

    Bhai really miss u..salamat raho..

  • @syedkamranalishahbukhari6353
    @syedkamranalishahbukhari6353 4 роки тому

    mashallah zaberdust creation

  • @syedashah93
    @syedashah93 4 роки тому

    Thank u so much ap ki wahja sy hm ny b ghr bethy visit kr liyea

  • @SaroonTv
    @SaroonTv 3 роки тому

    ماشاءاللہ زبردست

  • @saiqaism
    @saiqaism 5 років тому

    Wow there is so much beauty and host in balochistan , government really need to protect and preserve them and then promote tourism here

  • @newhobby4397
    @newhobby4397 5 років тому +1

    So sad locals are not keeping it clean but at the same time why can’t current people be buried there? Do you know how many people will be resurrected from each grave when Allah Ta’ala has that time appointed? Numerous quantities!!!
    It just made me think who will remember me after 200 to 300 year after I’m dead. Maybe people will forget us with in first 100 years. Just think no mater how rich or famous you were in your era you will be nobody after few hundred years unless you died with imaan on Allah Ta’ala and made positive difference in Allah Ta’ala’s creation then you have nothing to worry. Music gave me sadness and anxiety but cemetery gave me heartache with lots of remembrance of all the people who have passed on to Barzakh how we are in line to enter it soon. Insha Allah we pass the test of this life and move on next to Rest In Peace in Jannah Al Firdous. Ameen Ameen

  • @thestorytellers19
    @thestorytellers19 5 років тому

    Incredible Balouchistan.

  • @MuhammadUsman-vk3sx
    @MuhammadUsman-vk3sx 5 років тому

    apki videos ka shidat sy intizar rehta hy bohat hee khobsorat documentry krty hy app. Brother aap 4k videos shoot krny ky leye konsa camera use krty hy

  • @simplemeerzadi6919
    @simplemeerzadi6919 5 років тому +3

    Masha Allah i have no word for your work you doing great work Allah Pak bless you and give you more success 👍👏

  • @ghafoorsiyal8106
    @ghafoorsiyal8106 5 років тому +1

    thanks dear for such fascinating vlog. these kalmaties and many other brave tribes of Balochs fought as Baloch Army of irregulers along with Mirs (Talpurs) of Sindh at the battle of Miani (hyderabad) and Dabbo against Charles Napier of British Army in 1843. these tribes have such ornate history. keeping exploring, we love and appreciate your work from sindh Hyderabad.

    • @jaberbaluch962
      @jaberbaluch962 4 роки тому

      Ghafoor Siyal Talpur is a baloch tribe who ruled sindh for a very long time

    • @qamarchandio4750
      @qamarchandio4750 2 роки тому

      @@jaberbaluch962 Both Talpures and Kalmatis are from same tree that's Hoat Baloch.

    • @jaberbaluch962
      @jaberbaluch962 2 роки тому +1

      @@qamarchandio4750 also chandio

    • @qamarchandio4750
      @qamarchandio4750 2 роки тому

      @@jaberbaluch962 Yes no doubt Chandia's are from Sardars family of Hoat.

  • @salmanazizsiddique5646
    @salmanazizsiddique5646 5 років тому

    Mre sab ghairatmand Baloch bhaiyo ko salam..

  • @explorer2645
    @explorer2645 5 років тому

    Sad to see such rich culture and history so badly neglected. Thank you for showing this and the skilful craftsmanship of people who lived here in the past. Such historical and fascinating places should be preserved, studied and promoted.

  • @ArmanKhan-cy7bq
    @ArmanKhan-cy7bq 5 років тому

    Ur work is excellent bro... Love for balochistan

  • @agul5758
    @agul5758 5 років тому +1

    Finally new episode u took long break brother hope all OK on ur side. Excellent vlog as always. Keep it up brother. Long live Pakistan Aamin

  • @mirrindbaloch9328
    @mirrindbaloch9328 5 років тому +2

    Thanks for making video..❤

  • @killerhawk9704
    @killerhawk9704 5 років тому +1

    Oh brother this time u really made us wait alot, but we r very happy to see u again

  • @Mai_Pakistan_hoon
    @Mai_Pakistan_hoon 5 років тому

    MA SHA ALLAH brother , great work , may ALLAH always bless you , Pakistan Zindabad ❤😍

  • @religiouscircle4408
    @religiouscircle4408 5 років тому +4

    Its really amazing 😶

  • @muddassarahmed751
    @muddassarahmed751 5 років тому

    nice work n historic place , just informing viewers its the same design textures and ornaments over graves we find those in chowkundi(karachi) and mukli(thatta)necropolices , intresting fact about all that they were right at costal area mostly were traders, and beautiful fact is if you want to recognise or diffrentiate between male or female grave its turban (head wrape) over males graves a distinguish feature, well done sir for all your efforts to show us who we are

  • @sadafmaqbool7977
    @sadafmaqbool7977 5 років тому

    its an amaizing place

  • @touseemabbas5655
    @touseemabbas5655 5 років тому +1

    In sha Allah zror jayen ge dekhne..

    • @bismillahkhanbaloch9794
      @bismillahkhanbaloch9794 5 років тому +3

      ارے بھائی بلوچستان کا ایک ایک انچ تاریخ ساز ہے بلوچستان تو اصحاب رسول ص کی مقدس سر زمین ہے بلوچستان پر کئی اصحاب رسول نے بادشاہت کی آج بھی ان صحابہ کرام کی قبریں موجود ہیں اور انکے دور میں بنائی گئی مساجد بھی بلوچستان میں موجود ہیں

    • @touseemabbas5655
      @touseemabbas5655 5 років тому +1

      @@bismillahkhanbaloch9794 bil kul sai kaha ap ne bhai..

  • @hameedullahbabar
    @hameedullahbabar 4 роки тому

    Jazak ALLAH ... Janab. Karachi may Chukandi Qabristan may b aisay qabray hain.. Ap wesay visit bahot khubsurat hai...

  • @mariaramzan3867
    @mariaramzan3867 5 років тому +1

    Umeed hai apkay channel ki wajha se ya paigham un logo tak pohonchay jinki zimmedari hai qadeem maqaamat ki dekh bhal karna.

  • @PUBG-fy8we
    @PUBG-fy8we 4 роки тому

    bht acha kam kr rh h mre bai..allah apko sehat dy

  • @goshi1947
    @goshi1947 5 років тому +1

    I really admire your contribution.
    I never subscribed a channel but I did yours.
    Thanks for uploading such great videos.
    Thanks a lot sir

  • @infotecproduct5926
    @infotecproduct5926 5 років тому

    Thanks bro before I don't know this greavyard in bhawani
    Love from Karachi lyari town

  • @alijaved21
    @alijaved21 5 років тому

    very nice work with the quality drone, microphone and camera. keep it up.

  • @irfankhan-my4tu
    @irfankhan-my4tu 5 років тому +1

    Please visit gajan village which is oldest place where Guhram lashari live mainly LASHARI tribesmen are living there some distance there is graveyard where lot of people bruied in one roof like dump of dead

  • @kashifmalana8604
    @kashifmalana8604 5 років тому

    Great work to promote Blochistan
    We should Promote our Balochistan
    Salute you for doing this

  • @RiazKhan-ph9ft
    @RiazKhan-ph9ft 5 років тому +1

    Bhai ap zabardast vedios banate hain.

  • @KamranHaider
    @KamranHaider 5 років тому

    Good video, very informative. Thanks

  • @Abid_Saaqi
    @Abid_Saaqi 4 роки тому

    THANKS, ALLAH bless you and ALL pakistani

  • @pakbaloch8083
    @pakbaloch8083 5 років тому +3

    Jumma mobarak ❤️ Bhai Jan love you brother Allah bless you 🙏💕💓💕💖🇵🇰

  • @pakistantigar2933
    @pakistantigar2933 5 років тому +1

    good work diear brother

  • @al-madinatravelagency6910
    @al-madinatravelagency6910 5 років тому

    don't hv words speech less for this Great bro Great Vadio

  • @mujahidmohiuddin9207
    @mujahidmohiuddin9207 5 років тому +3

    Love n respect from karachi 😍😍
    Sindh mein is trz ki qbrain hain

  • @yasinmurad5883
    @yasinmurad5883 5 років тому +1

    Great

  • @mdeliyas8914
    @mdeliyas8914 4 роки тому

    🌺🌹🌷💐.. Very nice blog🌺🌷🌹

  • @sajadkalmaty5468
    @sajadkalmaty5468 4 роки тому

    Good Job dear Respect from Mirpur sakro thatta
    Nabi bux Kalmati Baloch

  • @shahsultan9711
    @shahsultan9711 5 років тому

    THANKS FOR UPLOADING

  • @samariqbal644
    @samariqbal644 5 років тому

    Love this channel great work sir great work

  • @rmkrmk9812
    @rmkrmk9812 5 років тому +14

    جناب بالکل اسی طرح کی وبریں چوکھنڈی کا قبرستان کراچی کے قریب بھی موجود ہیں کیا سنکا تعلق بھی بلوچستان سے ہی ہے، بھائی جان بلوچستان کی سرزمیں کی تاریخ بہت پر اثرار ہے اسے تحقیق کر کے مرتب کریں چونکہ اس سرزمین میں بہت پر اثرارئیت ہے اسے افشاں کر کے دنیا کے سامنے لائیں میں چوکھنڈی کے قبرستان میں کئی دفعہ کیا ہوں ایدی تمان جگہوں کو محفوظ کیا جانا چاہئیے

    • @Ijazali-dh1di
      @Ijazali-dh1di 5 років тому

      Chokundi Qabrastan Jokhiya Qum ka ha

    • @rmkrmk9812
      @rmkrmk9812 5 років тому

      Ijazali 5080
      جناب قبریں تو بالکل اسی انداز کی ہیں آپ نے معلومات پہنچائ آپ کا بہت شکریہ اس دور میں شاید کاریگروں کا انداز ایک جیسا ہی ہو گا اسی لئے بالکل ایک جیسی ہیں

    • @muhammadyounuskhan2062
      @muhammadyounuskhan2062 5 років тому

      اس طرح کی کچھ قبریں میمن گوٹھ ملیر اور منگھو پیر کے مزار کے ساتھ بھی موجود ہیں

    • @jaberbaluch962
      @jaberbaluch962 4 роки тому

      RMK Rmk Sab balocho ka mazar hai zyadatar "kalmati" tribe ka

  • @HOMELYCOOXPASSIONATECOOKING
    @HOMELYCOOXPASSIONATECOOKING 5 років тому

    Always waiting for your vlogs, try & make more frequent videos... #jaldisebanaao

  • @lalrehman7981
    @lalrehman7981 5 років тому +1

    umdaaaaa

  • @fahadshahzad249
    @fahadshahzad249 5 років тому

    Well-done. Very informative documentry.
    Love and Greets from Lahore.
    👍👍👍

  • @naseerbaloch1175
    @naseerbaloch1175 5 років тому

    DEAR YOU DID A GREAT AND INFORMATIVE AND PRESERVE THIS HISTORICAL ANCIENT GRAVE YARD

  • @umarsaqib8570
    @umarsaqib8570 5 років тому

    Zabrdst

  • @diyartcraftwithrabia5666
    @diyartcraftwithrabia5666 5 років тому

    Very long back i visited there was gorgeous n i felt proud to have a treasure in form of this heritage
    Plz save this treasure i should protest to sindh gvt to pay attention to save this place
    Kaash is gvt me kuch insanyet baqi reh gai ho or wo is khazane ko sambhal le

  • @saidkhan8304
    @saidkhan8304 5 років тому +2

    بھائی آپ کا ویڈیو بہت اچھا تھا ماشاللہ لیکن بہت دیر بعد آیا بھائی پلیز یہ بتاؤ کہ ویڈیو میں آپ کون سی کیمرہ کونسا ڈون استعمال کر رہے ہو یہ بتاؤ شکریہ

  • @alihassancheema8203
    @alihassancheema8203 5 років тому +1

    Very beautiful Pakistan very different and unique video please all Pakistani people do something for Kashmir people and do something like this place it's tradition and hysterical place