I see Africans are easily fooled by the way someone delivers English. Cursed is the Africa who prizes vanity. You need not lead them to slaughter, they walk there themselves.
Your excellency thank you for being steadfast, I particularly want to thank for speaking out on the issues concerning Africa as whole. Spot on as far as DRC is concerned. 🇷🇼
Which spot on is that? Encouraging ethnic rebellion by telling lies? Aren’t you appalled by what happened in your country? Aibo! No, our president is wrong on the issue of Congo vs Rwanda
The guy is very knowledgeable,I may disagree with him but you can't take away the fact that is well vest in terms of understanding the issues that affect our country and the continent as whole
Mr President, even though government may have taken a decision to build additional capacity in 2004, there's due processes that needed to be followed most important EIA which for such massive greenfield project will not take less than 2 years and thereafter begin with the design process. These processes alone takes no less than 3 years excluding the procurement of contractors. Surely there should be records to account for duration of these milestones
One of the things Former President Mbeki made me aware of, its regarding SEO’s. why would all the SEOs perform badly all of a sudden? Not even one of those SEO is making a profit. Two questions aroused in my mind: Did those who wanted to destroy South Africa use the opportunity during Zuma’s presidency to destroy these entities? Or Former President Zuma is part of those who want to destroy South Africa?🤔🤔🤔
South Africa has fallen victim of the culture of privilege and has developed a new form of dependency and in my view slavery, 14 million people rely on grants and the operational budget for Social Development is a staggering 246 Billion Zar, whilst the combined value of the Johannesburg Stock Exchange is 7 Billion, this points to a negative trajectory towards a negligent tax base which further fuels budget difficulties, it's population is growing and it's economy is shrinking with below 1% GDP growth.
Mr the president Thabo Mbeki, please excellency when did you had about "Banyamulenge"in DRC before you tells stories to the public which can bring confusion to the school!
I respect this old man , but to sides with Kagame about congo ,im very disappointed, eastern congo population speak swahili not kinyarwanda , M23 is part of Rwanda army its has been ptoven by un ,USA france and others. The main target is to control the minerals in eastern congo , the banyamulenge story is made up in Kigali, jusy to divert the true story
Nigerian and others African who suffer from xenophobia attack u need to protect yourself, take up guns ,fight , u hear it from the President of south Africa . That the M23 rebells are right to take arms and fight the government, no wonder he almost take arm to fight Jacob zuma back
On that question of Congo vs Rwanda eish. Our former president Mbeki messed up, so Mbeki is either misinformed or he is misleading people. It’s pity to hear him take the side of P. Kaga with all the evidences.
@@lelkaya7912 I'm telling u mufeuthu , i was also shoked , Kagame has caused over 10 milion congolese deaths in congo, since world war combined never ever humanity has that death toll
If private sector invest there should also be proper regulations to control greed. Just as much as we need people to check what leaves the continent we need people to regulate what companies earn to also protect the citizens The reason why I say that is because in Europe the energy companies still make huge profits out of the people . They've increased their tariffs and blame it on the war in Ukraine which is a lie and governments don't do anything to stop these companies.
It is very easy to own land in South Africa, ....well as easy it is for every South African. You work, you pay a deposit, and you buy the property with a loan from a bank. That is how you do it, and that is how everyone does it. If you think you need to get by 'TAKING" it by violence or 'unlawfull' made-up laws, then it is because you do not want to work for it. That means you are a thief who wants to take something without paying for it.
@@LieslvanWyk Speaking from privileged background how many black people qualify bond from the bank, did your ancestors take bonds when they dispose blacks in S.A?
There was freedom but the country got captured again. To be free we need a government which will fight corruption. My view is that the ANC, MK and EFF will not fight corruption but would rather weaken protect the criminals. Both Ramaphosa and Zuma said that the ANC comes first and South Africa second. Malema on the other hand shows that his party will give free stay out of jail tickets.
Mbeki is the one who messed up the country when his hatred of Zuma caused factions in the ANC. Once there are factions there will be corruption as you hear them saying it's our time to eat. There are other political parties without such factions. Again the economy was subotafed during Zuma tenure even banks manipulated the rand. Mbeki knows very well what happened, it's not a puzzle
Thembelani read the political report of 2007 conference the SINS of incumbency were clearly identified .JZ specializes in dividing the paty for his personal too power ,for example ANC Youth league, Cosatu and SACP were divided by him and his cabal. Jz continues till to date to play a victim card for political protection
@@luvuyomakalima1676 my pass mark is better that yours. The problem is that you don't have any discourse that may demonstrate your view except simply believing what Mbeki is saying a man who lives to defend himself
@3:10:09 the audience claps, yet the gentleman says, at the ballot box we should remember the party that gave us freedom. He, himself is not following the presentation. 🤔
U don't understand yrself bcoz Sars was not performing its duties and the results of investigation pointed to yr favorite and they are public unless u are going 2 hide under this nonsense of white monopoly capital
The charisma in Mbeki, a gold of knowledge flowing like a river, we had a president here, that is not to say he was perfect.
I see Africans are easily fooled by the way someone delivers English. Cursed is the Africa who prizes vanity. You need not lead them to slaughter, they walk there themselves.
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Your excellency thank you for being steadfast, I particularly want to thank for speaking out on the issues concerning Africa as whole. Spot on as far as DRC is concerned. 🇷🇼
Which spot on is that?
Encouraging ethnic rebellion by telling lies? Aren’t you appalled by what happened in your country? Aibo! No, our president is wrong on the issue of Congo vs Rwanda
Thabo Mbeki's wisdom is priceless. This is real Mrabulo.
Ndiyakuxhasa nam, nguMrhabulo onzima kakhulu lo, kuninzi nje endikufundileyo kwaye icima "nondiva kusithiwa" (hear-say). Isigaba sesibini siso esi sibeke uMzantsi Afrika kulendawo ukuyo ngoku. "If you know you know". Ubukrelekrele onabo Tat'uMbheki abunantanga Mabakuyeke Tata, Enkosi🙏
the wisdom of this man is priceless 💯
50c
The guy is very knowledgeable,I may disagree with him but you can't take away the fact that is well vest in terms of understanding the issues that affect our country and the continent as whole
that Jonathan guy is excellent 👌
Mr President, even though government may have taken a decision to build additional capacity in 2004, there's due processes that needed to be followed most important EIA which for such massive greenfield project will not take less than 2 years and thereafter begin with the design process. These processes alone takes no less than 3 years excluding the procurement of contractors. Surely there should be records to account for duration of these milestones
Fire the sound guy. This was painful to listen to
Can year 1 successes or upward trajectory be linked closing of the inequality gap?
It goes without saying. Your are spot on.
One of the things Former President Mbeki made me aware of, its regarding SEO’s. why would all the SEOs perform badly all of a sudden? Not even one of those SEO is making a profit. Two questions aroused in my mind: Did those who wanted to destroy South Africa use the opportunity during Zuma’s presidency to destroy these entities? Or Former President Zuma is part of those who want to destroy South Africa?🤔🤔🤔
Thanks Mr President for Umhabulo
South Africa has fallen victim of the culture of privilege and has developed a new form of dependency and in my view slavery, 14 million people rely on grants and the operational budget for Social Development is a staggering 246 Billion Zar, whilst the combined value of the Johannesburg Stock Exchange is 7 Billion, this points to a negative trajectory towards a negligent tax base which further fuels budget difficulties, it's population is growing and it's economy is shrinking with below 1% GDP growth.
Mr the president Thabo Mbeki, please excellency when did you had about "Banyamulenge"in DRC before you tells stories to the public which can bring confusion to the school!
I don't understand Thabo Mbeki. What world did he grow up in. In England?
I wish this man could run a third time for President, I would vote for him.
I respect this old man , but to sides with Kagame about congo ,im very disappointed, eastern congo population speak swahili not kinyarwanda , M23 is part of Rwanda army its has been ptoven by un ,USA france and others. The main target is to control the minerals in eastern congo , the banyamulenge story is made up in Kigali, jusy to divert the true story
Nigerian and others African who suffer from xenophobia attack u need to protect yourself, take up guns ,fight , u hear it from the President of south Africa . That the M23 rebells are right to take arms and fight the government, no wonder he almost take arm to fight Jacob zuma back
On that question of Congo vs Rwanda eish. Our former president Mbeki messed up, so Mbeki is either misinformed or he is misleading people. It’s pity to hear him take the side of P. Kaga with all the evidences.
@@lelkaya7912 I'm telling u mufeuthu , i was also shoked , Kagame has caused over 10 milion congolese deaths in congo, since world war combined never ever humanity has that death toll
2:19:15
If private sector invest there should also be proper regulations to control greed. Just as much as we need people to check what leaves the continent we need people to regulate what companies earn to also protect the citizens
The reason why I say that is because in Europe the energy companies still make huge profits out of the people . They've increased their tariffs and blame it on the war in Ukraine which is a lie and governments don't do anything to stop these companies.
Am happy this guy was recalled if his view on land is that of freedom charter then we are doomed as Africans we will never own land in S.A.
It is very easy to own land in South Africa, ....well as easy it is for every South African. You work, you pay a deposit, and you buy the property with a loan from a bank. That is how you do it, and that is how everyone does it. If you think you need to get by 'TAKING" it by violence or 'unlawfull' made-up laws, then it is because you do not want to work for it. That means you are a thief who wants to take something without paying for it.
Thief just like those apartheid whites@@LieslvanWyk
Understand the politics of that time of the freedom charter then you will understand why ithe clause was drafted that way
Unamanga lo sinawo umhlaba emakhaya kodwa uyasehlula senifuna lo wako ballito umhlanga lo usetshenzwayo nibe nihluleka
@@LieslvanWyk Speaking from privileged background how many black people qualify bond from the bank, did your ancestors take bonds when they dispose blacks in S.A?
The scary part is that the state is gonna be a tiny little part of governance.
There was freedom but the country got captured again.
To be free we need a government which will fight corruption. My view is that the ANC, MK and EFF will not fight corruption but would rather weaken protect the criminals. Both Ramaphosa and Zuma said that the ANC comes first and South Africa second. Malema on the other hand shows that his party will give free stay out of jail tickets.
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Rubbish.
Thabo Mbeki needs to move on
But he has moved on, he is giving a lecture over questions asked
from what, school us?
To be honest,was Zuma a presidential candidate? 😢😅
Mbeki is the one who messed up the country when his hatred of Zuma caused factions in the ANC. Once there are factions there will be corruption as you hear them saying it's our time to eat. There are other political parties without such factions. Again the economy was subotafed during Zuma tenure even banks manipulated the rand. Mbeki knows very well what happened, it's not a puzzle
I worried about you Thembelani.
Thembelani, what was your highest pass mark/symbol at school, was it an A, B, C or D?
Thembelani read the political report of 2007 conference the SINS of incumbency were clearly identified .JZ specializes in dividing the paty for his personal too power ,for example ANC Youth league, Cosatu and SACP were divided by him and his cabal.
Jz continues till to date to play a victim card for political protection
@@mawandla4222 one day you will understand politics
@@luvuyomakalima1676 my pass mark is better that yours. The problem is that you don't have any discourse that may demonstrate your view except simply believing what Mbeki is saying a man who lives to defend himself
Umsholozi shem, will just sing 'umshini wami'🤣
@3:10:09 the audience claps, yet the gentleman says, at the ballot box we should remember the party that gave us freedom. He, himself is not following the presentation. 🤔
MBEKI is AN Opportunist not a politician
No comment😂
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Histoire ignorance on congo matter is pathétique
😮 Thabo Mbeki is a pure fool South Africa former president I never see
Explain statement with facts.
Why Zuma would want to destroy SARS it does not make sense, i think Mbeki he does not understand himself there
U don't understand yrself bcoz Sars was not performing its duties and the results of investigation pointed to yr favorite and they are public unless u are going 2 hide under this nonsense of white monopoly capital
Vote DA save South Africa 👍. DA does better where they govern.