The Problem with Jorge Masvidal vs Nate Diaz…
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
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Chael Sonnen talks about the problem with Jorge Masvidal vs Nate Diaz on this episode of Beyond the Fight
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Hey Uncle Chael, can you make a shirt that reads.. it's one of those things ?
Facts
I❤chael
Let’s be honest, if you put a poll and say “would you pay for…”, it doesn’t matter what fight it would be because nobody pays anyway
if nobody paid there wouldnt be a business lol
I guarantee over 1.5 MILLION people will be PAYING for the mcgregor fight. Not everyone draws the paying crowd though so we will see. Ngannou has a big fan base but his base either doesnt have money or doesnt lik paying for his fight ever.
So it depends, some fighters draw the money
@@Rowsy91 true true I’m just exaggerating
Preach
@@Rowsy91nobody compared to how many people are watching that aren’t buying though, yeah a lot of people buy it, but I know for a fact the number of viewers is alotttt higher than the ppv buys. And there’s the fact that people usually host parties and stuff for ufc so you can have up to however many people watching ufc that they might have still not paid for, so yeah nobody
@@Andy-rf8os oh yeah i definitely understand theres more thant dont pay, but simply the paying audience is the important one.
and host parties is what i think most people that pay do, or watch at the bar with friends. I have np spitting on ppvs but yeah i wouldnt spend 80 to watch alone at home
I took part in the poll....I would love to see the fight but life is way to expensive to pay to watch a fight
wanna stream
*Nobody wants to buy ppvs at this price.. They just aren’t worth it.*
This is literally the worst way to see these both of these guys fight again.
They should do Powerslap.
Buying the PPV and looking forward to watching the fight are not the same things in today's market.
Chael should ask "Would u ever buy any PPV ever ?".
It’s crazy because if they just rematched in mma this fight would actually make a lot of sense and do pretty well.
Absolutely. Best of 3 almost always makes sense in MMA. But this is a fight this nobody wanted. Why wouldn't they just get into the cage?
They can’t because it has to be in the ufc if it would be mma. And I just don’t think Dana will ever sign Jorge again.
It’s a fight for the SMF belt..saddest mfer
Uncle chael is the smartest guy in my personal opinion about fighting 💯🔥♥️
I stopped paying for ppv a little bit ago it’s too expensive nowadays plus it’s so easy to just watch it for free now lol
Yeah it’s a big problem for them lol
You think they would learn and start making it cheaper. Not to mention the ESPN + shit literally guaranteed me forever going to Buffalo Wild Wings to watch this overpriced shite
@@ubergoober25glad i found someone else who feels the same way. I actually paid for like 3ppvs in my life. But that espn+ subscription really ended any chance.
Now do one asking Connor vs Diaz
Last Diaz last boxing fight sucked. Looked like he didn't prepare for one minute. Masvidal talked so much smack before his last fight, proclaiming he's going to annihilate his opponent. He said to "Bet the house!" In Las Vegas. And his fight sucked too. Good thing I didn't listen to him. I'd be sleeping on the street right now. Felt like he suckered us all into watching his fight so he can get paid big and ride into the sunset. Turn me off to him and I was a fan. Who in the right mind wants to watch these two box?? Sometimes it's fun to watch a train wreck just because it's a train wreck. This just sounds stupid.
Nate had a pinched nerve, a serious injury before that Jake Paul boxing match. The Diaz brothers are too tough for their own good. They never back out of a fight, even though both of them should have pulled out due to similar serious injuries
Honestly I liked that Nate boxing match. I watched it about 2 or 3 times.
I know Jorge just became a "fight promoter" but could that be why they're doing a boxing match?
Diaz vs Ferguson is a fair fight
They already fought
Were you asleep
i will never buy a boxing ppv or even watch a free boxing event. I think it's hard to justify paying for these kinds of fights. The only sport I watch is MMA, so dispite being a fan of both nate and masvidal , them boxing doesnt interest me. If the fight was $5 and i could only watch those two fight, i probably would , but im not paying $30-60 to watch just one fight and since i dont watch boxing , every other fight on the card doesnt interest me at all to make it worth buying
Wait, didn't Chael like when Floyd would announce a fight and the fight would happen not long after the announcement?
They ain’t fuckin Floyd
Yeah
ITS BOXING!!! We’re UFC fans, wow
Chael, just remember you were too scared to box Jake Paul.
Nate and Chael are my two favorite UFC fighters of all time. Having said that, I would pay to listen/watch Uncle Chael’s take on this fight before I would pay to watch Diaz/Jorge in boxing…
Some fan you are. The Diaz bros been preaching loyalty their whole career. Seems like you werent listening. As soon as Diaz tries to do his own business without UFC/Dana, and youre not onboard. No loyalty
I won’t buy but i will watch it if you know what I mean
I have no interest in revisiting this fight again.
Chael is a Homer. A company man to the end. He dresses like my granny.
Sounds like you got a gilf
I dont know why guys think because we love them for one thing were gonna follow them over to another.
We love MJ and chuck barkley, we dont watch them play golf.
Love tiger woods, not gonna watch him do a swim meet.
We don't pay for any UFC PPV's either though.
Very melodramatic from a guy obsessed with proving something to Ariel Helwani.
People will watch this fight, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the viewer will press the 'buy' button on PPV. You can tune in by sailing the high seas without financially supporting the event.
You are always here!❤
Nobody wants to watch Nate Diaz show up looking flabby, doing nothing for 15 minutes.
Wonder why Chael ignores what masvidal said about him publicly.
More and more of these trash fights that are purely about the money. Thank God nobody with a brain pays for any of these fights
Thank you give us 30 more mins of content tonight maybe go live
If its 8 weeks till then. Didnt you always compliment floyd for doing that time frame? I personally think whats killing this fight is that neither one have any momentum of any kind. They finally hit the point of where the outcome of the last fight matters.
Well said
Why don't chael do polls on ufc fights
Cash grab fights are getting far too common
I'm definitely watching just not paying, we started with The Pirate Bay
If Diaz is fighting, I’m watching.
Why are they boxing. Its so boring
Perfect..... Gamebred Boxing Promotions!!!
2 Big Names... boxing... and pay eachother by their Fanbases!! No jitsu
Tito for President
I’d say 1st, but Chael is undisputed and will always be number one in our hearts and minds. So with that said 2nd.
That polls a bout as accurate as our presidential poles. 🤣
Will the PPV numbers be astronomical? Probably not. Will people want to watch the fight? OF COURSE THEY WILL. They both (especially Diaz) have HUGE fan bases.
The real question is why you try so hard to justify hating it. 😂
You do same for UFC ppv.. results will be almost similar 😅 Never purchased ppv. Watching since UFC 250.. and never missed ppv main event fights.. 😅😅
The only card that people would pay for at this point is Colby vs Rachmonov or Khamzat vs winner of Strickland vs Dracus at UFC 300
Yeah Chael, come on, criminals have destroyed the country, food, gas, fast food is 20 dollars.
I’m stealing it Chael, I’m stealing because why wouldn’t I.
I’ve spent over $15,000 in my life, on just UFC PPV’s and a few bkfc or boxing matches. Get a job folks and plan for the expense. Streaming will be the end of this type of entertainment.
What if Dana is secretly planning to unveil zuffa boxing at ufc300? A co-promotion with himself lol...
Jorge vs Nate - 1st official zuffa boxing bout
I agree this boxing match is lame. BUT, I have a hunch that if you did a poll that said "Do you plan to buy ANY UFC PPVs this year" you'd get similar results.
Masvidal vs Ben Askern 2 in MMA or Masvidal vs Perry in BKFC. That's it, no other option! Any Diaz brother fight - simply NO!
It's too much of a money grab.... There's no reason to watch either of them. They had their moment. ....When you "Retire" ,people say goodbye. They don't want you to come back, they feel like, you made your mark and this feels cheap ... Thx Nate for the memories,but no. .
They r both too old and beat up to put on the kind of fight we want to see.bare knuckle mma boxing it all ends up BORING based on the last performances they had🤷🏾♂️
Chael is so full of sh🎉t and against fighters making money outside of UFC. In all fairness, he works for espn so his leash is probably red. Chael has been quoted saying 5 weeks ahead of the DDay is the ideal time frame to announce a fight. There is enough time and there actually is a story. For the story, Diaz never admited defeat. Masvidal is a natural in fight promotion. All the event organizers need to do is advertise the event.
I hated that the BMF TITLE FIGHT was stopped over a cut... so lame.
oh yeah and the Rock made a gimmick match so much worse...
I can't support a suckerpuncher.
Especially when he goes on to lose the fight when it's fair. Pathetic.
What's even worse is the mob having such little integrity that they couldn't care less. Embarrassing
wow, just going by the petty video thump pic, your'e being a dick towards a guy in Nate who I thought was nice to you. What if he tried to get a fight with ufc but nothing could be done, he may even have tried to get a 5 round fight with Masvidal or Dustin but ufc said no, and since he has nothing else to do and Masvidal's side got clearance to box, they reached out and said hey we can box instead? As I watch this video as I type my rant I hear you say time, that's you're issue with this? Well it didn't look like it.
Id watch for 12.99 price tag. Anything higher is over-priced. Out of their prime and sport. The media day will be better than the fight.
Your question didn't whether we were going to watch it. You asked were we going to buy the PPV. A completely different quedtion.
I've only ever paid for a couple fights my entire life im just a brokie can't afford 70 bucks if it was like 20 bucks that would be more reasonable
if they want to sell PPV, they need to drop the price to around 39.99.......and take away the espn+ paywall.... Period end of story.
We've already been down this road. Sports events don't need to be profitable in this day and age. You just need a little Saudi money backing the event.
if they put this on Jake Pauls Misfits promotion/PPV then i can see it doing numbers tbh, probably not 1m+ unless the card is insane, but profitable for sure
I’m more of a boxing fan than an MMA fan and I am pumped for this fight! 😂
Love you uncle Chael, we preciate you
After thanks thanksgiving I had so much left overs I really had to ween off of it, I couldn’t just go cold turkey.
Hmm buy ppv of Islam vs anyone in ufc or Jorge vs Nate in boxing match that means nothing. Let me think...
Honestly ..... it's easier for me to find out after the fact who won any match ... just watch highlights
Pay Per View is over rated
How tf is nate going to do ANYTHING he throws slaps. Ridiculous.
I mean who pays for anything besides maybe gigantic cards like ufc 300
ahhh I think its important to poll the same people who voted and ask, how many of you solo pay for an UFC card...I bet its almost close to same percentage
Not enough time??? Your the guy who likes last minute drops 3 weeks prior so it's fresh and exciting.
The fight would be more appealing if Diaz could beat a UA-camr.
Haven’t paid since probably ‘19
haven’t missed many since ‘05
Can we just say economy is ruining fun and it can't be as big as it should cause people are worried about other BS..?
You did not ask if we would watch.. You asked if we’re paying for the ppv.
Most don’t for any of the 3 you alluded to either
They don't need a massive arena, rent out a field somewhere and do it outside in a basketball court people will eat that shit up. Out door blood and guys mayhem, rain or shine
I said this on another post but it is worth repeating these are basically push polls until he does a poll about an actual ufc event these polls are meaningless to me . Get a baseline ask the generic question how many of you pay for ufc ppv. Until that happens these polls are just mcguffins for chael to opine on what a bad idead these matches are
Chael P surely you're realising by now that these polls just prove that none of us actually buy ppv's 😂😂
Wasn’t chael saying listening to fans is the worst thing you can do for business? I’m starting believe that he’s actually a shill..
Why boxing? Rather see the octagon rematch. Thats their bread and butter. One of these dudes just lost to youtuber.
Yeah I’m not interested in this fight. There are a lot of uninteresting rumored fights right now. I’m scared for 300
He should also ask if we're going to watch. I'll be watching it, just not buying it.
I guess I'm not the only one who isn't interested, eh? Definitely not enough time to build it up at this point.
Love both of those guys hope they do well but a boxing match? I doubt I even watch the video much less buy it.
Im truly not interested at all in a boxing match between them. I'll read about it in the headlines the mext day. Then forget about it for all of eternity
Any ufc fighter doing anything outside of the ufc chael is against. Such a company man
Cheal do you actually think it's a timing issue and not the fact that no one pays for PPVs anymore
So many ufc fighter want to box...because they are broke...
I have less than zero interest in watching them box unless its free. Like not even enough interest to find a stream 😂
smh uncle chael the sponsored segment has fine audio but then the actual content sounds tinny AF
The only person I know that made money using their mouth is his ex-wife.
Better pay to watch Nate vs Jorge than watch some mu sul mon keys hug for a tin belt
Everyone will stream it though…just like they do every other fight.
Let’s be honest chael is almost never right, and his wife is in me DMs but don’t tell him it’s a secret
Everything Chael, this fight sucks
I will illegally stream every ufc event untill i die or any other event nothing is worth my money lmao
The 10% that pay to watch fight are the ones with more money than sense, the rest of the world just streams it
I agree its a boring match up between 2 washed dudes in a sport i dont enjoy as much as mma
I’m def not paying for the fight…. Not saying I won’t watch it either 😏
Not really sure how to feel about this to be honest. Interested yet not interested . 🤷♂️
Nobody wants that i rather Nate get some get back on Leon
Gamebred gonna get him in AGAIN in this boxing match