Five Rare British Micro Computers - Show & Tell

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  • We have raided the Swindon Museum of Computing and grabbed five rare British micro computers to show you today.
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  • @RMCRetro
    @RMCRetro  4 роки тому +45

    What would you like to see more of? Let us know! And be sure to give Keith a sub over at:
    The Digital Orphanage: ua-cam.com/users/TheDigitalOrphanage
    And check out:
    The Swindon Museum of Computing: www.museumofcomputing.org.uk/
    Thanks for watching!
    Neil - RMC

    • @0SteveBristow
      @0SteveBristow 4 роки тому +1

      But...but.....Camputers Lynx!!!!? ☹️
      A great video as usual.... Thank you.

    • @InsaneWayne355
      @InsaneWayne355 4 роки тому +7

      Love to see deep dives into the MTX and Enterprise.

    • @boblowes
      @boblowes 4 роки тому +3

      There's one machine I'd love to see covered more - the Robotron Z1013, of the former German Democratic Republic (East Germany). It's a 1984 machine, designed to compete with the growing home computer scene which was doing so well in West Germany (and the rest of Europe and the world). Robotron were a state-owned affair that made computers for government and industrial use, who were charged wth creating a cheap home micro that would help keep the GDR competitive with the west. Unfortunately, West Germany had a plant where they manufactured Commodore 64s, while Robotron used chips that were rejected from other machines due to performance or manufacturing issues. the rest of the computer was similarly cheap - a single board machine, with keyboard that would make the ZX80 look like a touch-typists dream, you had to assemble your own power supply, case, and procure a television to act as the display. Like the ZX80, it was entirely character based, with no graphics routines. It's also all in German. There don't seem to be any in mint-on-box examples, as everyone who bought one had to fashion a better case than the vacuum-formed tray the machine arrived in. And as soon as the Berlin wall fell, those pesky West Germans sold their Eastern brothers and sisters their old C64s, while they went and bought a nice new Amiga or Atari ST.
      1984-finally-an-east-german-home-computer.html

    • @ratspike8017
      @ratspike8017 4 роки тому +2

      I have to vote for the Grundy Newbrain simply because of the name. If you can get hold of one of them I would love to see it working... but that might be a Treasure to Treasure episode??

    • @dj9volt
      @dj9volt 4 роки тому +2

      RetroManCave id love to see a video on the Oric-1 and Atmos as well as the memotech and the enterprise 128

  • @EgoChip
    @EgoChip 4 роки тому +111

    I want to see full episodes on all of the computers featured in this video. This video was great and all to see rare machines, but fact sheets are not enough, I want to see them in action.

    • @fensoxx
      @fensoxx 4 роки тому +3

      Yep second this. Maybe a flight sim on the Enterprise 128

    • @ian_b
      @ian_b 4 роки тому

      Thirded.

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl 4 роки тому

      If you made the episode long enough you could probably review every game sold in WH Smiths (in the 1980s a major UK retailer of computers) for them back in the day. Do that for the Spectrum and the episode would still be going next year.

    • @digitalarchaeologist5102
      @digitalarchaeologist5102 4 роки тому

      Absolutely. We need a follow up on how the machines ran. What games were like. How good or not they were to use.

    • @jkdsteve
      @jkdsteve 3 роки тому

      Yes, big old tease by not seeing these powered on and working...especially the Enterprise 128, since that's a complete new one to me.

  • @hybridplc
    @hybridplc 4 роки тому +117

    RetroManCave talks to a future version of himself.

    • @Lordborak316
      @Lordborak316 4 роки тому +4

      I thought it was he uncle?

    • @RisingRevengeance
      @RisingRevengeance 4 роки тому +11

      They could honestly be brothers. Nice beards aside they have very similiar facial features.

    • @uselessDM
      @uselessDM 4 роки тому +3

      I was thinking the same thing lol
      They do look eerily similar.

    • @fredsmith1970
      @fredsmith1970 4 роки тому

      which one is which?

    • @bitwize
      @bitwize 4 роки тому +2

      He's a Time Lord.

  • @ambroselwatson
    @ambroselwatson 4 роки тому +50

    PEEL IT! Peel the label!

  • @Oncampus2k
    @Oncampus2k 4 роки тому +43

    “No retrobriting needed”
    8-Bit Guy has left the chat.

    • @yamigekusu
      @yamigekusu 4 роки тому +2

      **The Retro Future has left the chat**

    • @dotmatrixmoe
      @dotmatrixmoe 3 роки тому +2

      **LGR has left the chat.**

  • @TheDigitalOrphanage
    @TheDigitalOrphanage 4 роки тому +7

    It was great to finally get to sit behind the lovely wood desk, surrounded by all the interesting things in the cave, talking about old computers with a like minded person!
    I'm excited to see the Enterprise, Memotech, and SAM Coupé in action!

  • @marklechman2225
    @marklechman2225 4 роки тому +4

    Having grown up with Atari, Apple and Commodore over here in the US, I really enjoy being able to learn more about the other side of the computer revolution in the west, especially in the UK. So much amazing tech with wonderful stories behind them!

  • @Farmelle
    @Farmelle 4 роки тому +31

    I literally spotted the Atmos from the video thumbnail. I am in the process of making the Re-Oric (a 10x10cm Oric1/Atmos replacement board with SMT components and a few other goodies) and I'm also working on Project Atmos(fear), which is a re-imagined successor to the Atmos, akin to what the Sam-Coupe was for the Spectrum.

    • @1337Shockwav3
      @1337Shockwav3 4 роки тому

      Neato ... do you have a website for the project? I kinda regret giving away the Atmos I had at one point, but on the other hand semi-modern mass storage solutions cost an arm and a leg

    • @Farmelle
      @Farmelle 4 роки тому +1

      @@1337Shockwav3 I don't. It was only supposed to be a pet project. I posted it on the Facebook Oric owners page and a bunch of people were like "I want one! Take my money!!" So I'm making it into something that meets their needs. Like I said, it was initially just a proof of concept to see if it was possible (and it was, just)

    • @ibisum
      @ibisum 4 роки тому

      @@1337Shockwav3 Look up Cumana Reborn and Erebus - no longer leaving you limbless!

  • @thedungeondelver
    @thedungeondelver 4 роки тому +36

    The MTX512 was a fascinating machine: it had the ability to display windowed graphics (with BASIC commands, no less) and featured a forerunner of HyperCard.

    • @mstandish
      @mstandish 4 роки тому +2

      That is really cool. I would love to see a demo of that.

    • @clangerbasher
      @clangerbasher 4 роки тому +2

      That's interesting re HyperCard. What was the application called please?

    • @thedungeondelver
      @thedungeondelver 4 роки тому +4

      @@clangerbasher It was called "Noddy".

    • @clangerbasher
      @clangerbasher 4 роки тому +1

      @@thedungeondelver Thanks. I remember back in the day thinking HyperCard was so clever I was expecting the tech to be everywhere. I know in many ways "browsers" and off shoots have brought it to us, but not exactly.

    • @clangerbasher
      @clangerbasher 4 роки тому +2

      @@thedungeondelver Here it is!!!!!!!!!!!
      www.primrosebank.net/computers/mtx/tools/noddy_plus/mtx_noddy_plus.htm

  • @portnaluinge
    @portnaluinge 4 роки тому +31

    Man, I remember lusting after that Memotech - purely because the industrial design was so deeply cool.

    • @dalriada842
      @dalriada842 4 роки тому

      I did as well. I still have old computer magazines from the period that had an article on it. I must have pored over the pictures like it was a porno magazine.

    • @davefb
      @davefb 4 роки тому +1

      Ha just looked and gone 'blimey, Id forgot that but I totally wanted it as a kid!"

  • @ojkolsrud1
    @ojkolsrud1 4 роки тому +26

    The Oric Atmos has a stunning look, to be honest!

    • @tonybrice7942
      @tonybrice7942 4 роки тому

      This. I remember seeing it in the shops as a teenager and being amazed by it. I already had a C64 by then and loved that machine. Otherwise I'd have probably tried to convince mum to buy one.

    • @joefish6091
      @joefish6091 3 роки тому

      horribly obsolete when it was released, 6502 when everybody else was Z80 at the minimum and 32bit was on the scene, the predecessor Oric 1 wasn't much better, same innards improved case for the Atmos, both used ONLY Teletext graphics, supposed to be CEEFAX machines !!!!!!

  • @MrBrianms
    @MrBrianms 4 роки тому +6

    The Oric 1 and Oric Atmos looked great. I had tried the Oric 1 at WH Smiths when the computers were running along a shelf for anyone to use. I remember the BASIC Language, Graphics and sound was an upgrade to the Sinclair ZX80/ZX81.

  • @speedbird737
    @speedbird737 4 роки тому +15

    I loved typing these basic commands into the Oric when it used to be out on display in Dixons back in the 80s! ZAP, PING, SHOOT and EXPLODE

    • @Drew-Dastardly
      @Drew-Dastardly 4 роки тому +1

      I did the same in the Boots and WH Smiths. It made me realize the Oric was totally shit. Why? Because all processing would stop while the machine played the arcade sound and then only resume afterwards. Totally absurd. Nothing like the BBC Micro SOUND and ENVELOPE commands that would process sound in parallel with running code and therefore graphics and game playfield.

    • @markpenrice6253
      @markpenrice6253 4 роки тому +1

      A feature later robbed by STOS/AMOS game programming BASIC on the 16-bits... :D

    • @ibisum
      @ibisum 4 роки тому +2

      @@Drew-Dastardly Ermm, you foolish kid! Oric has SOUND, and PLAY .. and MUSIC .. commands as well .. you just didn't discover them, it seems. Some of the greatest music you will find on the 8-bit machines was made on the Oric, with its independent sound chip supporting multichannel audio.

  • @ukcroupier
    @ukcroupier 4 роки тому +38

    I remember thinking that Memotech was the coolest looking thing ever, I still do :)

    • @chromatiCityGame
      @chromatiCityGame 4 роки тому +1

      I had that Memotech machine way back then... Bought it from flea market with few bucks! Never really "got it", because we had no documentation for it in Finland and there was no internet then to find out more :D I was a curious teen and broke it in to a million pieces and "studied" it's parts :D And thanks to machines like that, still build and fix computers on semi-weekly basis today!

    • @SeverityOne
      @SeverityOne 4 роки тому +1

      It was sturdy for sure. A solid 1 mm brushed aluminium. Its BASIC had some incredibly awkward commands such as GENPAT (generate pattern) to define a sprite, and you can probably imagine what CTLSPR did. Then, it had a built-in assembler, a built-in debugger, and something called Noddy, which was a language to build text screens. A lot of good ideas, just not always equally well executed, and the manual was big, but not always practical.
      During its lifetime, it always struggled: never enough software, hideously expensive hardware, and community support was understandably difficult in the non-connected 1980s.

    • @paullee3660
      @paullee3660 4 роки тому

      I remember the adverts in the magazines. It looks so cool. I wanted one badly, but dad bought a commodore plus 4. Which also had bugger all software.

    • @1337Shockwav3
      @1337Shockwav3 4 роки тому

      Sadly it's all looks, overall the machine is quite underwhelming.

    • @SeverityOne
      @SeverityOne 4 роки тому

      @@1337Shockwav3 Nah, it's pretty much average for the time it came out in, and probably even a bit above average. Bear in mind that MSX, with exactly the same specs, had yet to come out.

  • @kaminutter
    @kaminutter 4 роки тому +40

    It will be nice to see more on the Memotech and Enterprise machines. Also would be nice to see videos on the Jupiter Ace and Einstein computers which always seem to be left out of collections.

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl 4 роки тому

      Yes. I actually knew someone who bought an Einstein back in the day.

    • @SteampunkEngineering
      @SteampunkEngineering 4 роки тому +2

      @@MrDuncl I still have my Jupiter Ace, somewhere. The built-in language was FORTH.

    • @metalheadmalta
      @metalheadmalta 4 роки тому

      @@MrDuncl The Einstein could actually run MSX software easily, totally compatible... It could also emulate the Spectrum. Dearly wanted one, but it was too expensive.

    • @lordevyl8317
      @lordevyl8317 4 роки тому

      Really like the fact that it (the Enterprise) has its own built-in joystick. Hope it contained a port for an extra one though, because if that think breaks you would have been fucked if you were into gaming at all.

    • @lordevyl8317
      @lordevyl8317 4 роки тому

      Wasn't the Einstein technically a Taiwanese computer though

  • @robertdicken5439
    @robertdicken5439 4 роки тому +4

    My first computer was an Oric 1. Set me off on 50+ years of computing and still enjoying my gaming, now retired and 66 years old.

  • @firsteerr
    @firsteerr 2 місяці тому +1

    i can remember back in the old days standing looking through the window of the newly opened "computer shop" with my mate munching on a packet of outerspacers dreaming of ALL these machines with their HUGE memories !

  • @srfrg9707
    @srfrg9707 4 роки тому +10

    Oric-1 was my first computer (Oric Atmos the 2nd one). The reasons why it worked so well in France are : Same CPU as the Apple ][. RGB output for scart TV. High resolution.
    the reason why it's labeled 48K and 68K of ram is that the Rom and the Ram overlay on the same bus adress range.
    You can toggle from Rom to ram, and this was used by Tangerine to load the system from floppies. Of course, in normal use, the overlayed part of the ram is useless. The lack of on/off swich was the main cause of failure. The connector was not capable to survive that much hard reset cycles. I learn 6502 machine code on it.

    • @ibisum
      @ibisum 4 роки тому

      One thing: the RAM overlay *isn't* entirely useless - if you had a micro drive, you could access the full 64k and still have a DOS at hand as well.

    • @Phantom8Bit
      @Phantom8Bit 3 роки тому

      The VIA chip had unused lines, it's surprising they didn't use that to page between ROM & RAM.

  • @kins749
    @kins749 4 роки тому +2

    Great video. More like this please. The first computer I ever saw was a friend's dad's Oric 1, I'll never forget my complete wonderment at seeing a computer - in a house - wow!

  • @Funk-That
    @Funk-That 4 роки тому +3

    I was lucky enough to have all those machines in my collection 15+ years ago. I was even lucky enough to have found a Science of Cambridge Mk14 which I paid zero pounds for !! Unfortunately my wife started to get a little unhappy that my collection was migrating from the full garage to the dining table :-( ... ebay got the lot.
    I Wish I would of hung onto them now and put the wife on eBay instead lol.

  • @adamfreeman3652
    @adamfreeman3652 4 роки тому +3

    ALL OF THEM! please do videos for all of them, I find all the historical computer stories interesting. Great video as always.

  • @tudanski
    @tudanski 4 роки тому +2

    excellent episode as always. Great production and presentation RMC

  • @SirHackaL0t.
    @SirHackaL0t. 4 роки тому +1

    I had an Oric-1. Great machine. I used to sit and program it in my bedroom on our portable TV.

  • @ordinosaurs
    @ordinosaurs 4 роки тому +1

    French here. The Oric 1 was my first computer. But in France, to switch the TV to the auxiliary Péritel input (aka SCART), you need to deliver a very well regulated 12V to switch the circuit. And this was a royal PITB, if I may say so, so much so I was using a motorbike battery as no transformer I found was stable enough. All in all, I used the computer way less than I wanted to because of that. The last nail in the coffin was when I was given a big beautiful and very advanced CP/M machine. The Oric became a closet queen in an instant. Still got it, by the way. Also saved an Atmos later, gifted by a family member years later. But what I really wished for from Tangerine was a Stratos. This had me salivating for a while because Minitel compatibility ;-)

  • @ukmk3supra
    @ukmk3supra 4 роки тому +7

    The Atmos would definitely pique my interest as a video all on it's own - i'd love to see the thing in action. That and the MTX just look so quintessentially 1980's - everything was black, with a red stripe or highlights - fitted with the style perfectly.

    • @ibisum
      @ibisum 4 роки тому

      Some of the 21st Century Oric software that's been produced would blow our minds if we'd known back in the teenager 80's, that such things were possible. Check out www.defence-force.org/index.php?page=games for some examples with screenshots, and if you're interested find yourself an Emulator (there are a few to choose from - my favourite is Oricutron, but ClockSignal is also worth a look) and get an account on oric.org/ to go through the classics. Seriously, if we'd known what the Oric could do back in the day, things would've been quite different .. new graphics modes were discovered and new techniques for exploiting them resulted in some FABULOUS looking games this century.

  • @richardclarke376
    @richardclarke376 4 роки тому +9

    I remember reading an article on the Enterprise in a physics class in college in early 83. Spec blew me away - too bad they took 2 years to launch it

    • @sma7530
      @sma7530 Рік тому +1

      Yup - I read perhaps the same article which blew me away. So now I own an Enterprise 128 !

  • @boatofcar3273
    @boatofcar3273 4 роки тому +2

    Excellent video Neil. One thing that makes this video special is you really get a sense of scale of these machines since you’ve sat a 48k Speccy there for comparison. Brilliant idea!

  • @dickbison
    @dickbison 4 роки тому +8

    0:29 How... how did everyone resist peeling off that protective film over the years? :o

    • @joefish6091
      @joefish6091 3 роки тому

      because it barely got used, prob spent most of its life in a cupboard. Not a lot you can do or want to do with Teletext graphics.

  • @SirRandom
    @SirRandom 4 роки тому +1

    I wrote 2 adventure games for the 48k Oric-1, "Starprobe" and "Land of Illusion" (released by Tansoft). I also worked on a game for a pre-production Enterprise, but the project was abandoned before completion. Happy times!! 😁

  • @mrt.7146
    @mrt.7146 4 роки тому +2

    OMG - the Memotech MTX512. I remember reading about it in some UK trade magazine back in the day. Ahhh, the memories - thanks for this video! Great stuff!

  • @ZaPpaul
    @ZaPpaul 4 роки тому +2

    My good friend at the time was obsessed with getting the Oric-1 and it took weeks of talking him into getting the Spectrum. He thanked us later :)

  • @johnhaines4163
    @johnhaines4163 4 роки тому +1

    That brought back some memories. I bought a kit Microtan 65 at the end of 1980 and expanded it to take floppy discs. It was a dead end so I looked at a lot of other computers before settling on the BBC B.

  • @barthonhoff5547
    @barthonhoff5547 4 роки тому +1

    The Oric-1 suffered from keys no longer responding, unless pressing harder. I brought an Atmos, used Author to write my school reports. And I still consider it as one of the nicest serious machine at the time. I sold it, replacing it with a Sinclair QL with more memory and more reliable storage.

  • @katharakis
    @katharakis 3 роки тому

    Amazing episode! Thanks!

  • @LegendaryGauntlet
    @LegendaryGauntlet 4 роки тому +1

    I remember seeing the Atmos in person when i was a kid and was really impressed by its looks. Still am, it's one of the best looking machines from the 80's !

    • @ibisum
      @ibisum 4 роки тому

      Check out the Telestrat too!

  • @phoenixx100
    @phoenixx100 4 роки тому

    Thoroughly enjoyed this. Thank you for sharing.

  • @HarryMorris69
    @HarryMorris69 4 роки тому +1

    Worked in a computer shop in 1985, peak 8 bit era. Software was basically ZX Spectrum, C64, 1% BBC, 1% everything else. Nobody ever came in for Oric, and we never saw any of the other stuff for sale in software catalogues.

  • @namakudamono
    @namakudamono 4 роки тому

    Excellent video guys, I thoroughly enjoyed that. The MTX is a really nicely designed micro!

  • @Yogurt1701
    @Yogurt1701 4 роки тому

    Excellent video. Brought back fond memories, so thank you for that. 😀

  • @sinistermoon
    @sinistermoon 4 роки тому

    This is a really cool video! Subscribed!

  • @discovermetaldetecting
    @discovermetaldetecting 4 роки тому +1

    Neil, you and Keith are great! Another great video taking me back in time! You guys are fab. 👍🏻

  • @RobUttley
    @RobUttley 4 роки тому +1

    I loved the look and feel of the Memotech, it always seemed a solid machine in all senses of the word. I only ever saw them in Laskeys, and never knew anyone that ever actually bought one.
    And the Atmos was always a very attractive computer. I never knew that the Atmos was really an Oric-1 in essence, I always assumed there was some kind of reasonable functionality/feature lift.
    (I totally would have peeled that sticker off, too).
    The Enterprise always came across a bit like the later Sam Coupe - seemed to be a good machine on paper but you never saw them anywhere at all.
    Another great video Neil (& Keith!), many thanks!

  • @gnuemacs1166
    @gnuemacs1166 4 роки тому

    Love these thank you for the excellent programme

  • @jester6856
    @jester6856 4 роки тому +1

    Great clip...very interesting, would be nice to have seen them boot up and a program loaded. But I really enjoyed this. Great work.😊

  • @saintuk70
    @saintuk70 4 роки тому +3

    The Memotech, what a fantastic looking device - I've retro-micro envy now! Can we get a full episode, please? I remember the Orics well, friends had them. Of course, the ZXs.....plenty said about them....and plenty of time spent on them too in my school's computer club.

  • @ian_b
    @ian_b 4 роки тому +5

    As a ZX81 owner, I lusted after most of these to different degrees. I remember for a while particularly wanting an MTX.

  • @doctorcrankyflaps1724
    @doctorcrankyflaps1724 4 роки тому +2

    Retro Cave Man definitely one the most informative retro channels. I'd like to see more of the Memotech. I'd never heard of it before this video. Cheers for the upload.

  • @jasejj
    @jasejj 4 роки тому +3

    Camputers Lynx, Tatung Einstein and Grundy Newbrain deserve their own tributes :)

  • @frigbychilwether
    @frigbychilwether 4 роки тому +8

    Hi, I remember drooling over the Enterprise, when it was called the Elan, when I saw it in Your Computer Magazine. Thought it would be the computer for me. By the time it came out had moved on. The built in joystick was for the young game playing me a great selling point. Would be interested in seeing it in action so I can see what I missed.

    • @metalheadmalta
      @metalheadmalta 4 роки тому

      You're not alone. I wanted it immediately... however, coming from a 'larger family', it was quite impossible. The price for it here in Malta was quite higher than the quoted British prices, which was daft. Eventually it was a flop here. I moved from the TI-99/4a, to an MSX, and then to the C64... On both Z80 and 6502 I learned assembly language easily.... In my opinion, it still looks stunning enough today.

    • @1337Shockwav3
      @1337Shockwav3 4 роки тому

      @@metalheadmalta Don't let the looks decieve you ... the keyboard looks quite good, but is in fact on par with the zx81 due to keys getting constantly jammed and bouncing. Technically still a severely underrated machine. If it had come out 1-2 years earlier I can definitely see it compete among the popular commodore, atari, sinclair and amstrad machines. Sadly it ended up as a sidenote.

    • @ibisum
      @ibisum 4 роки тому

      @@1337Shockwav3 There are quite a few of these available on the Hungarian market, in case anyone is interested .. it was a popular system in that country for a while.

  • @zxkim8136
    @zxkim8136 4 роки тому +1

    fantastic episode Neil seeing these machines once again has made my day i wanted all of these back in the day. Memotech knew how to build a computer and the asthetics are perfect, i would like to see an episode dedicated to this micro.......thank you for this production @@@kim@@@

    • @RMCRetro
      @RMCRetro  4 роки тому

      Thanks Kim. Memotech episode coming right up for you sir

  • @DrLilo
    @DrLilo 4 роки тому +6

    That Memotech actually kinda looks like if Sinclair designed the Commodore 64...

  • @TotiTolvukall
    @TotiTolvukall 4 роки тому +1

    I remember selling the Oric-1 along with the ZX series of machines, BBC-B, Dragon 32/64 and the Jupiter Ace :D
    Those were the days...

  • @Acheronus80
    @Acheronus80 4 роки тому +5

    Saw the Oric 1 and Atmos for sale in Goto Computers in Slough... Always thought the Oric-1 had Tic Tacs for keys!

    • @ibisum
      @ibisum 4 роки тому +1

      I learned to touch-type on that keyboard and whenever I feel it now I get all those muscle memory moments back. And when I switch to my Atmos (still got both systems, as well as a Telestrat), I find it oddly disconcerting somehow. ;P

  • @gotmygoodelf
    @gotmygoodelf 4 роки тому +1

    i love this kinda episodes, bringing back childhood memories

  • @generalbyzantine8735
    @generalbyzantine8735 4 роки тому +2

    The Matra Alice was a TRS-80 MC10 in a red case. What made it "French" was that Hachette is a huge publishing house with many magazines and books aimed at teens and young adults. I remember buying "Jeux & Stratégies" mags from France so long ago and it was impossible not to see an ad or two for the Alice. Maybe there was some pressure on the editors to include Alice versions of the game listings at the end of the mags, but my copies of those magazines are long gone so I can't check. :)

    • @ordinosaurs
      @ordinosaurs 4 роки тому

      And the Moebius artwork...

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl 4 роки тому

      Hachette is still big in France doing part works of things like reproductions of French Dinky Cars.

  • @thebittenmac
    @thebittenmac 4 роки тому +1

    I remember the Oric Atmos because it was available here in Italy. It was featured in Italian computer magazines but I never saw/tried it for real

  • @KolliRail
    @KolliRail 4 роки тому +2

    I like them all! Ooooh, do I like them! Do full episodes about all of them!

  • @TheTurnipKing
    @TheTurnipKing 4 роки тому +1

    22:32 That the thing about driving down the price, it made it possible for people to get involved with computers and upgrade as their wallet allowed and preferences allowed, and I think that's the key to it's enduring success.

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl 4 роки тому +1

      Absolutely, especially when nobody you knew owned a computer. In 1980 my new Honda motorbike cost £500. Something like a TRS80 was over half that. Getting the price under £100 made buying a computer far easier to justify. As there was no real computing press in 1980 Sinclair advertised to Electronics enthusiasts in magazines like Practical Electronics, in which he had previously advertised "HiFi", Calculators and Watches.

  • @fordprefect80
    @fordprefect80 4 роки тому +1

    I remember seeing an Oric 1 in a shop display cabinet here in Newcastle Australia back in 83. I would have loved to own it or any other system at the time.

  • @TranceTrousers
    @TranceTrousers 4 роки тому +2

    I loved this episode! I have experience with five of these lovely old computers. I own a ZX80 (bright white, boxed and in mint condition), a boxed ZX81, a boxed Oric 1, and a boxed Memotech MTX 512 with the Memotech branded DMX-80 printer (also boxed!). I used to own an Atmos back in the day but sold it because I just didn't like it. I much prefer the look of the Oric 1 to be honest. I also have a mint condition, boxed, Jupiter Ace too - would love to see something about this. In fact I have quite a few home computers and associated peripherals from the 1970s and 80s, twenty-one to be precise. My latest acquisition being a Commodore PET 2001-8 from 1977. Great channel Neil, keep up the good work :-)

  • @merlinathrawes6191
    @merlinathrawes6191 4 роки тому +2

    Best version of Gemini Man I've seen. My friend had an Enterprise. As it liked to boast: "With Obsolescence built out!" lol.

  • @biglads4tw
    @biglads4tw 4 роки тому +1

    Seem to remember my local John Menzies having loads of Oric-1s back in the day. Later on they stocked the Atmos too but I don't remember ever seeing them for sale anywhere else.

  • @bobbobson4069
    @bobbobson4069 2 роки тому +1

    Brilliant video! Please make a video on each of those early 1980s machines!!!

  • @whatamalike
    @whatamalike 4 роки тому +8

    More Sam Coupe!

  • @hernancoronel
    @hernancoronel Рік тому

    The Timex Sinclair ZX81 was sold by the thousands here in Buenos Aires, later there was also a local company named Czerweny that licensed and sold the ZX81 as well. I programmed my first game in a ZX81 of a friend of mine in the early 80s! I remember I had to keep tweaking the code to avoid running out of memory. Thank you for the great video!

  • @Yukatoshi
    @Yukatoshi 4 роки тому +1

    My mom used to have an Oric 1. It just sat in a cupboard through the late 90s and early 2000s lol.

  • @galamoonretrogaming
    @galamoonretrogaming 4 роки тому

    good presentation ! thanks

  • @RetroGamesCollector
    @RetroGamesCollector 4 роки тому

    Awesome selection of hardware, always wanted the Enterprise but never come across one in decent enough condition. And great meeting and chatting to you at Revival Neil.

  • @KevinJones-bt7ib
    @KevinJones-bt7ib 4 роки тому +1

    I think I remember the enterprise one advertised in a computer gaming magazine. I remember the built in joystick, and thought at the time that was really cool ha ha.

  • @stevejordan1968
    @stevejordan1968 4 роки тому +2

    I had an Oric 1 but it didn’t have enough variety of games so gave in and bought a spectrum.

    • @ibisum
      @ibisum 4 роки тому +1

      That has changed these days - so many new titles written for the Oric-1 in the 21st Century. We even got an Elite port, Impossible Mission, School Daze and Oricium too! And did you know that the Oric-1 version of Manic Miner is widely considered the BEST version of Manic Miner ever made?

    • @stevejordan1968
      @stevejordan1968 4 роки тому

      Jay Vaughan wow

  • @Dr.D00p
    @Dr.D00p 4 роки тому +1

    Being this close to 100K subscribers must like having an itch you just can't scratch right now 😁
    ..Don't worry, relief is coming and how well deserved it is.

  • @davidwalz3317
    @davidwalz3317 4 роки тому

    This channel is always a treasure.

  • @jameswalker199
    @jameswalker199 4 роки тому

    I love that MTX! The style looks like you could release it today and it would still be a fresh look!

  • @herseem
    @herseem 4 роки тому +1

    I loved my Oric-1 and then Atmos. I wrote some good stuff on those, really important programming experience that then became a career, and the Atmos had a really excellent keyboard.

    • @ibisum
      @ibisum 4 роки тому

      Still got those old tapes around? Dig 'em out and send them our way: forums.defence-force.org/

  • @drrev40
    @drrev40 4 роки тому +1

    Would love to see something on the Camputers Lynx series of machines. Really enjoyed this ‘Show n Tell’ 👍

  • @Petertronic
    @Petertronic 4 роки тому

    I remember having a Memotech 16K ram-pack for the ZX81, but I never knew about their MTX computer. Can't wait to see more about it!

  • @stevewf
    @stevewf 4 роки тому +1

    I remember loving the look of the Oric-1 when I saw it in on display in Dixon's in the 80's. But ended up buying a Tatung Einstein as my first computer, which i used for a few years until the Amiga 500 came out. Happy days ! (I'm wondering if the Tatung was underrated in its day, as I thought it was a superb machine, but pretty much nobody remembers it !! ).

  • @VladoT
    @VladoT 4 роки тому

    As always another of your great videos, I guess UK microcomputer scene was much more interesting than we knew 😀

  • @Franksey180
    @Franksey180 4 роки тому

    I remember all of these from back in the day, though the ZX81 was the first I got to play with at a friend's house. 23:11 The one that stood out in my memory was the Enterprise 128, saw that in "Fox's music store" at Upper Parliament Street in Nottingham, they sold musical equipment for years but tagged onto the 8-bit computer boom and stocked home computers for a while. I saw that in the shop as a child and was fascinated by it at the time, but never knew anyone that owned one.

  • @Skaera75b
    @Skaera75b 4 роки тому +18

    I DEFINITELY want to see a video on the Memotech- never heard of it, looks like a fun machine to play with! Also definitely the Enterprise- that looks interesting. Any chance of more information on that Alice machine? I hadn't heard of it previously...

    • @metalheadmalta
      @metalheadmalta 4 роки тому +1

      The Memotech keyboard was nothing to write home about though. Very short travel. :-(

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl 4 роки тому +2

      That is the interesting thing about 1980s computing. What was happening in one country was entirely different to another. For example the Commodore Plus 4 was the computer most enthusiasts had in Hungary.

    • @metalheadmalta
      @metalheadmalta 4 роки тому

      @@MrDuncl Totally right... The Spectrum, although popular, had actually a smaller following than the C64. The C16 and plus4 never even ventured here. The C128 was a bit popular...
      Two massive computers here in Malta were at that time (1983-1986), the Texas Instruments TI-99/4A (huge sales, and which I still use!), and the Goldstar FC-200 MSX (which I stupidly sold.. kicking myself)
      Then the Amiga came out. And it was lights out for everyone else.

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl 4 роки тому +1

      @@metalheadmalta You use a TI-99/4A !!! Do you have an expansion memory or something. I bought one new when they were selling them off for half the price of a Spectrum. I kept it about six months because the shared video RAM made it incredibly slow with user written programs. Its replacement was a Toshiba MSX bought for a similar price which I still have, along with the optional music keyboard. When I bought the MSX, Commodore Plus 4s were being sold off for a similar price complete with a bundle of the five games that were available for them back then. In the UK the C64 lasted as long as the Amiga as it was about 1/3rd the price and had thousands of games available for it.

    • @metalheadmalta
      @metalheadmalta 4 роки тому

      @@MrDuncl I have a TI with a few games and Extended Basic. The Ext.Basic is absolutely incredible as with the sprites, you can give them a 'Call Motion' command, and you can forget about them, as they are handled by interrupts. You just change x and y 'force', and they do their own thing. This facilitates a HUGE LOT of work and obviously, speeds up the machine which is bottlenecked by TI themselves. They had, literally, a world-builder on their hands, but were too greedy to allow others to create great games. Parsec, TI-Invaders, Bigfoot and Star-Trek were absolutely incredible games, and still hold very well to this very day... I am still a mad mad fan of the 64, and have fitted a 'Leonardo Arduino' and a quad core motherboard in an empty 64 shell and use it regularly....as in DAILY

  • @Padsterrocks
    @Padsterrocks 4 роки тому

    I live near swindon, have visited the museum before and loved how much stuff they have there.

  • @thedevilbunny
    @thedevilbunny 4 роки тому

    Great stuff, Neil. You are a lucky chap my friend...i'd love to get to play with a few of those rare machines.

  • @craigchamberlain
    @craigchamberlain 2 роки тому

    I was 13 years old when the Enterprise was launched and I remember reading about the specs in various magazines of the time and wanting one. Fortunately, I went in the direction of a BBC B Model 7 with various peripherals and never looked back. Very interesting times in the home computer community though. I was a member of a small (sub 1000 population) town who had a “computer club” and we had all sorts including Sharp MZ-80K, MZ-700/800, Tandy TRS-80, Commodore Pet/64/Electron and Oric Amos. Also, various Sinclair machines and later Amstrad machines. Good times!

  • @TheStuffMade
    @TheStuffMade 4 роки тому +1

    Nice video thanks, it would be interesting to see a demonstration of some of these machines running a few games and software.

  • @VK2GPU
    @VK2GPU 4 роки тому

    I had the pleasure of getting to play with an Enterprise when I was a kid. At the time I only had access to BBC Micros at school, and a friend of my mum had one of the Enterprise machines. Thanks for covering it, I could never remember what that weirdo micro was I played with occasionally. The joystick on it is a dead give away!

  • @Ndlanding
    @Ndlanding 4 роки тому +1

    Great video, thanks! I'd love to see more about the MTX (it reminds me of my Korg M1 synth!) Also, you must peel the stickers of them whotsits!

  • @StarFox85
    @StarFox85 3 роки тому

    very special channel
    thank u ❤

  • @CtrlOptDel
    @CtrlOptDel 3 роки тому +1

    When you’ve just been listening to the video whist doing something else, and when you finally look up at the screen your first thought is “What’s Fred Durst doing talking about British retro computers?”

  • @axelBr1
    @axelBr1 3 роки тому +1

    The Enterprise was my dream computer. Walked to the computer shop in my local town so many times to ask if it had come in. But it never did. Ended up with an Amstrad CPC64

  • @Nagytalop
    @Nagytalop 4 роки тому

    I'm 44 and I still have my Enterprise 128 from my childhood. On Hungary this machine have a fan base. You can buy an SD card adapter, new keyboard membrane, 2 MB RAM expansion and the machine is capable to handling 8 MB of memory. On the expansion port can use floppy controller, IDE HDD controller and many other stuffs. SymbOS have EP 128 support too... I think it's a great machine and I love it. :)

  • @osgrov
    @osgrov 4 роки тому +2

    I love all of these, and would happily welcome future videos on any of them. Or you know, all of them. ;)
    The MTX is just sexy, I'd give a lot to own one.. Do that one first, please.
    I've always had a soft spot for the Atmos as well. Clearly 30 years ahead of the red'n'black "gamer" aesthetic, haha.
    The ZX-80 will remain one of my favorite machines ever. It's so impossibly bad it boggles the mind. Bad in a good way, that is. I have the deepest respect for Sinclair, and how they managed to build and ship such incredibly cheap machines. They must've had some serious engineering talent to pull that off.
    Great video, looking forwards to seeing all of them in action. :)

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl 4 роки тому

      A friend had the ZX80. I wasn't impressed. As soon as the flicker free ZX81 was announced we both ordered one. He then sold on the ZX80 for £30.

  • @roleplayingbrian
    @roleplayingbrian 2 роки тому

    Great to see these, I must have been swayed by the unusual in my youth as I waited a year for the Enterprise to be released, before finally giving up and bought an Oric instead, with the terrible keyboard, but I have fond memories as it was the first micro I bought. My parents ran Datapen Microtechnology making lightpens for micro's so I had a dream childhood with C64, Vic 20, BBC, Spectrum, Dragon 32 and my personal favorite Amstrad CPC464, although nothing beats the BBC playing Elite for pure Nostalgia. Ended up with an Atari STFM before the rise of PC clones wiped out this wonderful time for home micros that ran from my mid teens through to my early 20's. Great to see the Enterprise getting a deeper look in recent episodes, and the nostalgia from these is just intoxicating - A big thank you.

  • @agelphick
    @agelphick 4 роки тому +2

    I've got a boxed and fully working Enterprise 64 that is hidden in my loft! Pretty sure I've got a monitor lead for it too. Must get it down and play with it a bit for that retro feel. You could also get a Spectrum emulator expansion box that let you load your Speccy games too! It was a great machine, released too late. Plus it was First called the ELAN, then the FLAN and finally ENTERPRISE.... Copyright issues I seem to remember. 🙄

    • @ibisum
      @ibisum 4 роки тому

      Wanna swap an Atmos for it?

  • @djpirtu2
    @djpirtu2 4 роки тому +1

    Oric Atmos 48k is still quite sexy looking machine. Had one in childhood and it's Basic was great for programming, like in MSX which i got too. Later Oric's dram-chips failed in storage, swapped those for new ones and it worked again. Sold maybe ten years ago for 70eur if i remember right. I live in Finland.

  • @gdclemo
    @gdclemo 4 роки тому

    Thanks, I would love to see some of these machines running a few games in a future video! Guess I'll have to visit Swindon some day; I never thought I'd say that!

    • @ibisum
      @ibisum 4 роки тому

      Oric-1 and Atmos have some really, really great stuff these days .. www.defence-force.org/index.php?page=games

  • @jovmilos
    @jovmilos 4 роки тому +1

    Lot of oric atmos models ended up in ex Yugoslavia. it was mostly sold to schools there and was known as nova 64. Besides new logo, everything else was the same. It was fairly expensive so not a lot of people had it. We mostly bought spectrums and C64's smuggled from Germany

  • @yakacm
    @yakacm 4 роки тому +1

    You can tell it's an Oric 1 16k by the fact it has a 48k sticker on the back, lol. The Atmos was the rarer of the 2 but you still saw quite a few of them, I worked in an early computer shop, for younger viewers a shop was like an online store but IRL, IE it was an actually building were you could walk in and 'buy' stuff and take it home with you, completely offline, IKR mind blown. But we did repairs and we got quite a few of both the Oric-1 and the Atmos, if memory serves we did sell some game for the Oric computers, I think they were compatible, it was a long time ago. The shop was City Software in Lime Street Liverpool, if anyone remembers it.

  • @EdCourtenay
    @EdCourtenay 4 роки тому +1

    I remember seeing a Memotech 512 in the wild in a computer shop in Midsomer Norton in Somerset of all places when I was about 14 and lusted after it - but that was the only time I ever saw one. Still looks great to this day. I think this machine needs an in depth look.

    • @RMCRetro
      @RMCRetro  4 роки тому +1

      I know it well, shout out to the Timsbury massive

  • @neilo3476
    @neilo3476 4 роки тому +1

    My Oric-1 survived a glass of squash being tipped over it, albeit the keys were a bit stiff afterwards.
    Years later I bough an Atmos from a mate and do recall swapping some chips around.
    I still have both and so would love to see something done with those two

  • @mUbase
    @mUbase 4 роки тому

    Cor, nice selection of computers. As always, thanks guys. x I HAD a ZX80. It was given to me by my Grammar school as it was gathering dust in the computer room. I took it home (this was 1987) and remember being slightly horrifed at it!! 500bytes of memory and always in fFAST mode ?? Ugh,. I had a ZX81 at the time in a DK'Tronics case with keyboard and 16K of memory which I loved. They are both since long gone but I have an Oric Atmos which I iput a new 7805 regulator in. I have 5 ZX Spectrum 48K machines - 3 of which need repair, and 2 working, one is housed in a LO-LPROFILE keyboard (nice but not as good as DK'Tronics) and one original issue 4. I also have a Multiface One aand an OPUD Discovery One disc drive both of which work... oh, and an assortment of interfaces including a MICON MIDI interface. :)