You Won’t Believe The Highway Range Of The Mercedes EQS SUV!
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2023
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Just watched your EQS 450+ range test. We have same vehicle with same 21” wheels. We consistently see 400+ miles of range albeit more local commuting vs steady 70 mph highway driving. Owned Mercedes for 20+ years, this one is the best!
I must concur!
Dang, what a range monster! These will be killer with Supercharger access.
Or right now
@@marcusrose5943 until you need to charge
@@brandenflaschHey, Electrify America works at least 30% of the time!
If this was in my price range, it would be in my garage.
@marcusrose5943 Not enough range. 400+ is the key. It has a high potential of reducing the need to stop and charge. But on the other hand it could potentially benefit the consumer supercharger bottleneck in the near future.
Interesting that the EQS 450+ SUV has a better real world range than then normal EQS 450+
I love that Mercedes still makes sure to put a sunroof shade on their EQ models so many Electric vehicles don't and I don't understand why
Cos sunroof makes the interior hotter in the afternoon, forcing the aircon to work harder, hence reducing the range.
@@speedycatz so wouldn’t it make sense to have a shade to cover it… that’s my whole point all these evs with sunroofs but no shade for it
@@Carfan678 An integrated sunshade makes production more complex and expensive but this is a 150.000€ car anyway so who cares.
@@Tschacki_Quacki That's a load of bollocks and you know it.
The EQA comes optioned with a full panoramic sunroof. There isn't a single EV they make that doesn't come with it as an option or as standard, and they all, get this; They all Open up...crazy, I know.
Everyone's tryna be lazy like Tesla, and just plonks a pano without a shade in their cars, which is silly and even less practical for EVs. A few others in both their EVs & ICE, give you a pano with a shade, but the pano can't be opened, just the shade. Mercedes just does the standard logical thing. And many of their panos open pretty wide too.
Electrochromic Roofs are best intended for cars like sporty cars and up that just can't fit a classic sunshade, which is part of why Mercedes discontinued it after the W222 as it's redundancy with the sunshade made no sense considering it's cost. Main thing is, *if you don't have a sunshade, have an electrochromic roof.* If you can't be bothered to add that, then stick to the classic sunshade. There's no reason outside "style" and dubious cost-cutting, that's led us to this era of full glass panos without electrochromism instead of just sticking to a classic sunshade design.
@@Awaks Chill out bro 🤣
I have the EQS 580 , i am soo happy with it. I love it more than my old car Tesla model X
289 Wh/mi X 375 mi = 108.4 kWh; 107.8 advertised so really good going on getting all the battery.
I have the EQS 580, just took a road trip with my wife to visit our grandson and daughter of course from Phoenix to Charlotte North Carolina. Mileage was not as good as the 450, but then again I was averaging 80 mph and running full AC. The 580 comfortably gave me about 200 miles with 50 to 80 miles left. I took it from 100% charge to about 20 or 25%. I might say that the trip cost $0.00 in charging as Mercedes has on top of the 2 years free (30 minute) charging, between May and October 2023 they are allowing free charging unlimited. As such charging from 20% to 90% or 100% took about 40 minutes on average but it was free. The trip was fabulous as we traveled through 10 states. The 580 was smooth and very comfortable, set it on cruise and it drives itself, there is a 30 second alert that beeps until you put your hands back on the steering wheel but it still offer relief from driving long distances. Love the 580!❤😊
I know this is a old post but do you still love your 580? We just purchased one there are not a lot of positive conversations about it. But I love it so far ❤
@@Camwill78 Definitely, best car that we have owned. I have 13K miles on mine. I guess the draw back is mileage, on long trips out of state I get about 200 miles between charges. But I drive it as a regular car , high speed, cold ac, and use all the interior comforts (massage). The ride is unmatched and I have a Lexus and Model S (son’s) to compare. I hope that you enjoy yours as much as I have mine. As I trade it in next year, my wife already said, make it another 580. We test drove the Mercedes S580, but it just doesn’t compare to the openness and comfort of the 580.
@@juanmacias4854 thanks for replying! I’m excited to experience everything this car has to offer! Perfect timing to upgrade I heard the 2025’s are going to be awesome
Wowza. That range is a bladder-buster! The EQS SUV is amazingly quiet on the highway. And I like its heads-up display.
Thanks Kyle for another great reviuw.
This car has a massive I-want-this-EV-right-now feeling. And that interior....
Nerd tip, Mercedes is using the "+" sign in the model name to indicate the range maximizing model variant within the lineup. Not sure if they do so in the US, but at least in Europe, Mercedes is selling FWD/RWD and AWD variants, so the single motor variant with the big battery is mostly getting the "+". It seem they're getting rid of the EQ labels, maybe the "+" is also being dropped with the next gen BEVs. Anyway, great result for the EQS!
3:11 It charges faster at 90% SOC than my Bolt does at any point. 😂
Exactly!
And it only costs $105,000. lol
@@kentyler3962 Good point! I could’ve gotten five Bolts for that price, at least if I got them all for $20K like I did my used 2017 with 40K miles on it.
@@RyanWilliams222 Yep, that's the only way I can afford an EV. (a few years old, 15k-20K range)
Looks like its efficiency increases when driven slow toward the end of the trip. I wonder if they have implemented some big super cap for regen without thrashing the HV pack also as a tiered storage architecture. Very impressive range for an SUV! Nice out of spec testing!
Thanks for video. This video changes my mind with this EQS SUV. I was worrying about its driving range before.
I think the only downside now is the weak charging network. This makes me consider getting one once it joins NACS.
This vehicle is targeted to Out of Spec Dad-expect him to trade up any week now.
Yup the Lucid will get traded for the merc and the model 3 will get traded for the refresh as soon as it drops
BMW uses brushed separately excited synchronous motors in all of their models and MB permanent-magnet synchronous motors (brushless). BMW developed theirs in-house, that's probably why it is so efficient. MB buys them from Valeo and ZF, but will also go in-house from 2024 on.
they have taken over yasa and they try to add some EQXX technology's to upcoming models. it sounds promising.
Two of the three luxury German legacy manufacturers are getting the EV thing right. More competition and innovation are they way, awesome.
Which one doesn’t in your opinion? Mercedes and Porsche built great cars with EQS and Taycan, BMW and Audi built very very good cars with the iX and the Q8 e-Tron so I think they all have the tech and understanding
@@darthrevan9144 The Q8 needs to work on its efficiency to catch up to the iX and EQS & EQE.
The only US tester I can watch, as a European
Kyle, food for thought. You actually went 385 miles. The speedo is off by .0285 percent. Ex) speedo show 68 when going 70 mph. The odometer is calculating at 68 mph vs 70 mph. So for each 70 miles you go you are showing 68 miles. 375 x 1.0285= 385 :-)
The speedo shows speed not distance. So, the velocity travelled does not infer anything about distance. However, each tire has a circumference and that multiplied by pi gives a distance per each tire rotation. Tires that are over or undersized compared to that expected by the vehicle will provide an inaccurate distance. So unless the actual circumference is known, the distance calculated will always be incorrect if not a standard manufacturers size (unless it is possible to adjust that within the car's system settings). I've never seen this on my ID4 menu but I remain on the standard 19" wheels and standard rubber. So Kyle, that's food for thought too.
@@doggytreats1122 the odometer reads from speedo as distance traveled. The GPS Kyle used provided the actual speed. 👍🏻
@@robbystewart8088 No, the odometer uses tire rotation. I did make an error before though. I should have stated that Tire diameter multiplied by pi is the circumference. So one rotation of the tire gives a certain distance. Using the speedo could work if only if you had an accurate average speed and you know the total trip time. Distance = Velocity x Time
@@doggytreats1122 the odometer and the speedometer utilize the input feed/reading from the calculation on tire rotations. It would actually be illegal for them to be different, considered odometer fraud.
@@robbystewart8088 Good that you agree that tire rotation needs to be known and therefore tire circumference matters. That info goes to the odometer to show distance. Meanwhile, the rate at which the tires turn e.g. so many revolutions per second is sent to the speedometer and that shows speed. Odometer (diistance) = Speedometer (velocity) x length of time driven. So now if you imagine that size of the tire was like a hot wheels car, the speed reading at '70'' (tires turning wildly) would actually be a walking pace and the distance would be reported as enormous for just driving around one block.
I was in the white Passat on i25 when you were heading north. We drove past you and my wife says to me he isn’t that the guy you always watch on UA-cam? I then tried to give you a big thumbs up but you were zoned in and chatting to the camera. It was cool seeing you in the wild! Awesome video and crazy mileage out of that SUV!
We have this exact trim with the 20”wheels. Driving on the highway in Southern Arizona, traveling from Phoenix to San Diego, we manage 2.9 miles/kWh, which would give us just over 300 miles of range. I couldn’t agree more, this car puts the range anxiety to rest. We drive at highway speed and with one quick 25 minute charge make it all the way to San Diego, which is a 365-mile trip for us.
I have a Tesla so I use superchargers when I travel. Where do you charge your Mercedes? I read that superchargers will be open to Mercedes. Do you know when that will happen? I would like to get a EQS as well so I am researching.
@@adgdashaef one of the stops for us, usually on the way back, is a place called Dateland. It has an EA supercharger, which usually works well. In fact there is a 60+ stall Tesla supercharger in the same location. On the way out, we either charge in Yuma, or El Centro. Either EA charges are not very good in these location and I generally schedule at least an hour to get 30-40% charge. As for when the Tesla superchargers will open up to MB electric cars, I don’t have a good idea, but I am keeping my fingers crossed. BTW, if you drive an EQS at 70 miles per hour, you will get 350 miles out of the car.
@@mehrdadmahmoudi3681 Thank you for the response, that sounds very promising! Can't ever get 300 miles out of my tesla.
Thank you for this great review. I am considering the EQE SUV (with the 4MATIC). This gives some confidence considering the 4MATIC range l is rated at 253.
How was the eqe suv ride compared to the eqs suv? I don’t see airmatic suspension available w the eqe suv.
@@Wasabi9111 the EQS has a smoother ride, definitely quieter (not that the EQE is noisy), the 4 matrix on the EQS SUV is worth the money I think. You get so much more other than the traction. You can get the air suspension on the EQE SUV as a $1,900 option.
I have the EQE 350 4matic. It’s super quiet. The performance is better than your passengers will likely even enjoy. And the driver assistance is incredible. I regularly road trip from Chicago to SW Michigan. The drive is so easy to do with distronic and the automated lane changes. Highly recommend.
Very good to know and thank you Adam. You definitely need the 4 MATIC in your part of the country. And SW Michigan with all the lake effect snow. I just noticed on my comment, it had 4 matrix”. That must have been the auto correct 😂 I think I’m going to order an EQE 350 4MATIC.
@@CookandBakewithSamer I looked thru our nearby inventory and none of the the eqe suv had the air suspension or the acoustic side windows.
You’ve made me a subscriber. This was helpful and I look forward to more of your range tests.
RWD definitely is the way to go
What kills me about all the “anti EV people” saying they wouldn’t buy an electric car because “you have to stop and charge it all the time”. You drove for six (6) hours.!! I WANT to stop, and get out and stretch my legs a little. This is so awesome knowing that you can put the miles ON, same as an internal combustion engine / ICE car.
I’m not anti EV. Just purely skeptical because of the US market, infrastructure, charging infrastructure, location of super chargers, and availability of said super chargers.
Waiting 3-5 more years before buying a more polished EV. Plus I would buy a used EV less than 2 yrs old. I want to see more progress. The Chinese, Koreans, and Germans are leading the pack in EV technology.
Hmmm, when have I ever driven 400 miles without a break? Um, never.
Awesome work! I love these test because as demonstrated EPA range is a one sided story.
Kyle can you create a spreadsheet with all you range test so that we can easily reference back to your test?
Really good range it could have made 400mi at a little lower speed
Would love to see this battery pack in the EQE SUV.
It doesn't fit!😊
It should be nice for 110k.
Great video. Always nervous watching at the end that you will run out. Have you ever done a range test Ev vs Ice?
Great Machine! Being a Tesla owner I miss my Mercedes fit and finish! Now they are back!
600km per charge is awesome ;)
Shouldn’t you also use GPS distance? If it was under quoting the speed it would’ve under quoted the distance.
That's what I thought too. He mentioned up-sized wheels. Does the car take them into consideration in the calculations, if diameter is different? GPS speed and distance should be done at same time.
@@commandojay1915 It does if you get it calibrated, but since it's under-reading I'm guessing it wasn't calibrated.
Great video Kyle. Binge watched this video and your Dad's today (EQS SUV). At the Wellington ChargePoint, what was the charge curve like after you concluded the range test video? I was holding out for the Lucid Gravity; however, I am really interested in the EQS SUV after watching both videos!!
Love the tech, next level, can u imagine a smaller vehicle, maybe 450 miles? WOW, FUTURE LOOKS BRIGHT ❤
What tech? It’s just low drag and huge battery.
Awesome, I hope all Germany cars out perform EPA. When will you be testing the new Q8 E-Tron?
EQS Battery
Nominal Capacity * 120.0 kWh
Battery Type Lithium-ion
Number of Cells 432
Architecture 400 V
Useable Capacity 108.4 kWh
Cathode Material NCM811
Pack Configuration 108s4p
Nominal Voltage 396 V
Model S Plaid Battery
Nominal Capacity * 100.0 kWh
Battery Type Lithium-ion
Number of Cells 7920
Architecture 400 V
Useable Capacity* 95.0 kW
Only thing to consider is battery chemistry and rechargeability over time.
But def impressive!
This range test is on point. Took a road trip a week ago in sizzling Arizona summer with temperatures hovering above 117F from Phoenix to Las Vegas and boy oh boy this vehicle is a range monster. Started with 95% SOC driving between 70 to 80 mph reached destination with 11% SOC. Glad I traded in Model X for 2023 EQS SUV 450+. Model X needed to be supercharged twice to make the same trip one way. As the public fast charging gets more reliable German vehicles will become more competitive to Tesla.
So twice as good as a Model X? I call bullshit on that.
I’m not a fan of Mercedes. But… good for them! Awesome video. Thanks Kyle for all your hard work.
Same energy efficiency as a model X. Impressive.
This vehicle with a nacs port gonna be a very compelling package
it already is
Wow, that is pretty darn impressive. I really like this car. I love the styling and it’s really nice to know the range is incredible. You did a wonderful job on this test and my goodness you must like driving long distances. Lol.
AWESOME VIDEO KYLE CAR IS AMAZING CANT WAIT FOR DUAL MOTOR OR EQS580 TEST !!!!! GREAT JOB LOVE THIS RIDE
Wowza! Talk about range anxiety...when will this thing run out?! Great video.
Drat. One of these things costs more than I paid for my house.
Kyle, tell the car industry. Put a lable near each cars charger port that reminds the ev owner there maximum charging rate. So they don't waste the 350kw when the 100kw charge station would be plenty.. to charge a Bolt EV's 55kw battery.
Say don't be a charger hog..... Like the old leaded or unleaded lable on the gas car.... fill cap area.
Probably better to have all the chargers at 350. You can’t control all user situation, eg the 350 was the only one available when the bolt pulls up.
Awesome! Cannot wait to see the EQE SUV, that one could even have better range!
I am very interested in the EQE SUV 500, but NOBODY has done proper 70mph range test on that yet, that I can find. Out of Spec has done one on the EQE SUV AMG and that only got 272 Miles, 100 miles less than this EQS SUV. Disappointing!
@@PhilT993 Hi Phil you got to take battery size in consideration the EQS has about 20% larger battery capacity, hence the cost is higher.
@@berthogendoorn2133 Yes the battery is definitely bigger in the EQS, but the EQS is also bigger than the EQE. I was hoping that the range would be closer than I have seen so far. we will have to wait and see when someone actually tests it. Here's hoping. I would be happier with 300 miles.
True Luxury, mercedes is the best. Now they have great range to go with the comfort and very useful tech like head up display, 360 camera to which are my favourites
I suddenly and very interested in the Merc. Hmm. Wonder what they lease for.
Best SUV EV on the market. Wish I could afford one.
can confirm with my eqe as well.
Nice to see a car actually make it's quoted range.
In fact no, it smashes it's claimed EPA by 20%!
@@Wised1000 yes! Love that. Tesla needs to start doing the same. Don’t tell us about range increases, just improve real world highway range.
Only one improvement when Mercedes comes out with the NACS plug, put it on the drivers side rear and presto, no cable issues with current supercharger version 2 & 3's, just back in, plug and charge!
Wow! I had no idea how good that EV would be. That is just outstanding! With the right charging network this thing will be a range beast. I wonder how it would do with towing? Is it capable of towing?
BTW I visited BMW Welt in Munich today. The BMW M50 IX looked good. The electric 7 series is even more horrible in person than on screen, a true eyesore. It is also enormous, it makes the EQS seem "compact". It would be no surprise that the upcoming Rolls electric, will simply be a rebadged, utterly costumizable version of it.
Well done Merc! Drag coefficient 0.26.
I believe it. My wife’s EQS 450 gets amazing range.
Hard to see that display with all the finger prints all over it!
I think has a greasy finger issue😂. He's going to have to lay off the snacks! My screen has never been even close to that bad.😂
out of spec- Use a decibel meter on your iPhone to compare the EQS vs Model S
Great range. Kyle said something about the motor brushes had to be serviced @ 37:15? How often is that? How expensive?
600kms on one charge at that speed. Amazing!!
Lemme know when they add the knobs and switches back for all the basic controls, HVAC, audio, etc.
One dial would be nice. The capacitive touch controls on the steering wheel aren’t that great. It would be nice to have a dial for changing radio stations and intuitively adjusting volume. Buttons and dials are underrated.
It usually sells for 20-23% discount off MSRP. So, it's a $82000 car give or take. If you are willing to buy 2 year used , it could be yours for $50-52K. At that price point, it becomes price competitive with a new Model Y. And don't forget that the battery warranty is 10 years 155K miles, as compared to 8 years 100K miles for Model Y.
That Red Twizy though ❤ (fyi, it's being discontinued soon... had one, it was a love&hate relationship, but always fun)
That's actually pretty amazing for the size and the speed...
I wonder what the range would be in Arizona where I am. 115 degrees and 85 mph is the norm here. 70 mph vehicles are a hazard here
I know its costly but will have to chose between this and mdx
When you next test an awd EQE/EQS, make sure you get a MY24 one because they get a disconnect unit for the front motor which will get the range for the awd ones much closer to the rwd ones
Only for the hyper rich. Great video.
The plus just indicates the highest range model. All the EQS have the large 107.8kWh usable Battery
Who drives 70 mph in the U.S nowadays. I feel like 75 is the new 65 😅
If I was ever willing to spend this much on a car, I'd have this car on my short list.
Apparently I'm poor. I'm make decent money, but just the thought of spending 100k+ on a car makes my head explode. 🤯
@@justinfowler2857 that would eclipse my house payment lol
@@justinfowler2857if you think $100k is too much, here in Australia it sells for $250k. I don’t think I’ll be seeing many on the road.
@@thomasbihn That car cost double what my first house costs.
@@derradune6722 Yeah but at least you live in Australia. I visited 20 years ago and still have fond memories of the nice people I met there. G'day Mate. 😉
Please do range tests for
Thanks so much Kyle. You and Bjorn are the best.
Please do mention temperature, wind factor, speed, tire size, start charge in a matrix format:
MY2022/23 EQS SUV 4MATIC 450
MY2023 EQE SUV 4MATIC 350
If possible cover:
MY2022/23 EQS SUV 4MATIC 580
MY2023 EQE 500 4MATIC
Most people buy AWD so please cover AWD for both EQS and EQE SUVs. Also, will it matter if trunk is full and 4 adults are in car ?
I prefer efficiency stated in miles per kWh versus watt hours per mile.
The car’s speed of 68mph didn’t quite match the GPS indicated speed of 70mph, so the range might have been off by a small amount. 375*(70/68)=386 miles range
You could be correct at that, may have to check distance on a GPS verified app ....
Nice video as usual, would you please post the link for your phone holder?
I was thinning about getting the 580, but reconsidering getting a 450 at this point! The range is awesome. I'm basically around town driving, little to no road trips.
IMO, the 450 AWD is the "goldilocks" model. A lot more torque, a little faster, and probably, a very small range penalty. Plus, all season traction and even very good offroad capability to boot! Finally, a much smaller price differential. However, if you are going to option a lot, the 580 might make more sense in the end. However, I have to disagree on the hyperscreen, I like it much better than the tablet screen. It might be functionally unnecessary, but it looks a lot better and is super slick to operate. In a sense, the dash looks cheapened without it. Even my wife, who is a ludite, now likes the fact that she can co-pilot with it after initially raging about it!
If you're doing around town driving and few to no road trips, can you charge at home? If so, either of those choices will be enough range for you; buy what you want.
That thing is a spaceship!
Also, if you considered the 580 because of performance, get the 450 4matic and buy the acceleration increase.
EQS 450 4MATIC SUV
From 355 hp to 435 hp (+80 hp) From 5.8 s to 4.9 s (-0.9 s)
Monthly: $90/month
Yearly: $900/year
Lifetime of Vehicle: $2,950
450 4matic way to go, imo
I was blown away with EQS 580 range and rear wheel steering. When doing mostly city driving, highway speed no greater than 70, and minimal red light launches, my maximum range to date is 459 mi. If I put in some effort and use ECO mode, maybe I could exceed 475 mi. Beauty is in eye of beholder, and I don’t think eggs shape is ugly, but good for drag coefficient. Could turning radius of this very long EV beat a model 3? For fun, think I’ll challenge one.
If available could you test the Fisker Ocean pls.
have u tested refresh model x long range?
110,000 👀 In the words of the great Fred Flintstone are you out of your rock pickin head.
¡Ay, caramba! 🤯
Amazing car but those bezels on the display look so old school. Is it that obvious in person? Thanks for your work, really important abs enjoyable 🙂
Look how filthy that steering wheel is on the right side. That's the beauty of white interiors! :)
It’s ok. I’m more worried about maintenance than anything else. Our Mercedes a few years ago was terrible. Almost as bad as a Landrover, it was always in the shop for something.
Not to be pessimistic but could a slight tailwind have been a contributor?
Great review! And great that there is options for the consumers. Would be a dull world if there was only Teslas out there.
36:00 Kum-in-Low to the Kum&Go 👏🏼
Beautiful car with amazing range. Mercedes really knows how to get the most out of their vehicles. The only down to me is that I can’t afford to buy one. Too bad for me.👍👍🇨🇦p.s. the finger smudge marks on the screen were driving me crazy,just say’n.🙄
Just wait a couple years and you probably can buy a used one for half price.
Beautiful interior, but rather bland on the outside. Looks like it would be a great car to pick up after they depreciate badly in two or three years. The range is amazing. Keep up the good work, always appreciate your videos.
@@alanbuck9237, I’m closing in on 80 so I doubt it very much if that car will be in my wheelhouse.
If it's reporting lower speed due to bigger wheels, isn't it also reporting lower distance travelled?
Geez that is way better than my plaid x. So much for Tesla being the “most efficient “
Never believe anything from Tesla!
Tesla are so outdated. Kia and Hyundai owners are laughing when they see a Tesla slowcharging 100-150kW at 50% Soc.
I guess merc has bogger battery
@@AG-ob3fx more efficient and bigger battery
My Model 3 is also better than your Plaid X
....when it comes to range.
600km is basically what they are rated at in Europe for the 450+.
How did the suv end up beating the sedan.. that's wild man
doesn't the eqs 450+ have one big screen that covers the entire driver's and passenger's panel?
I love my EQS.
15:40 that translated to 177 wH/km 👀👀👀
Have you done a range test on the Tesla Model Y?
Two weeks ago I was in Eastern Washington with weather a 110 degrees.
It took my model Y 100 miles of charge, to go 39 miles.
NOT GOOD. Did not run the A/C. No hills, flat ground.
lmao, either bs story or you should make a service appointment cause something is wrong with your car
How quick is it to charge this beast. Big battery