Pershing Under Pressure - The End Of La Lys I THE GREAT WAR Week 197
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- Опубліковано 2 тра 2018
- Even though the German spring offensive is not able to gain any ground in Flanders, the allied casualties are mounting. This increases the pressure on John J. Pershing and the American troops in Europe to finally join the battle.
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Can't wait to see the 1919 offensives.
Won't happen. The kaiser will win well before that. This is but a small setback.
Spoiler the war ends in 1918
What is this nonsense you speak of, Decio Leonardo ? The Kaiser and King's finest will knock out all their foes once those pesky Prussians stop holding them back. Let us give those silly northerners another year or two before they fold to those Revolutionaries and tea wasters. Austria shall stretch from the North Sea to the Persian Gulf! Gott Erhalte Karl Den Kaiser!
I still think the Germans can win this
Rumors have it the Americans are going to try dropping soldiers into Metz from airplanes. What a world...
Excellent as ever guys. Once again proving that quality is better than simply spamming episodes
The weekly upload is perfect in my opinion. This is by far the best channel I've ever found on youtube, hands down.
I've finally done it. I've finally caught up with the series
Lol, Don't do that again.
Welcome to the frontline!
Jesus! You made it to the party! I thought you'll never made it. Grab a mechine gun and a bottle of French wine, *WE ARE GOING TO THE FRONT* !
Someone get this man some sunlight
Christ, how long have you been travelling for?
All is well here but I'm still waiting for the 326th battle of the Isonzo. I heard that this one is the best!
man, that was some party they threw for the 250th Commemorative Battle of the Isonzo
You wouldn't hear much from Isonzo, the river is too tired from being attacked repeatedly by Cadorna's ghost.
You mean the 327th
The 326th only gets 500,000 killed
I bet on Liechtenstein
Milchbrötchen TV - Grüßgott du altes Milchbrötchen
Weirdly enough you're not wrong …
I never realized how much Pershing clashed with the allied leadership. It explains some of the friction Eisenhower would deal with in WW 2.
William Prince
Upsets me how the allies are usually depicted as best buddies
The Top Brass always knew the British Empire liked to be the Puppet Masters, and loved to wag the American dog at will. The Aristocracy hasn't stopped, even to this day, as referring to the USA as "The Colonies".
The sooner the Malthusian, decrepit and diabolical British Empire is smashed the sooner civilization of the world will be safe from the Degrowth Primitives.
Eisenhower likely had it worse in some ways, he had to keep both Patton and Montegomery working with each other.
dndboy13 And DeGaulle. What a Prima Donna he was.
Yeah, and from a "commoner" to boot.
Tsk, tsk very insulting to the Peer class, let alone the British Crown.
Clutching of pearls, "How dare he".
I wish Bf1 had a game mode were it was historically accurate weaponry and trench warfare instead of people running around with full auto guns and Great video keep up the great content.
momo 12320 I would get it but I have seen reviews and aperantly nobody plays it
Yeah, Verdun has a very low player count and unfortunately Tannenberg is doing even worse. Verdun used to be around 300, 400 players but since two or three months it's been down to 150 or so, with hardly more than 200 at peak. Tannenberg had somewhere around those numbers in the launch months and is now down to something like 40 or 50 players.
Question for Out of The Trenches: What did Gavril Princep think of the war during his incarceration? Did he still think he had freed his people? Was he horrified at the huge loss of human life?
Great show as always!
His last words he wrote (with a spoon in the prison wall) were: "Our souls sneak through Vienna and whisper through the palaces and make the gentlemen tremble"
Eh. 6/10 as far as Last Words go.
As Spring 1918 goes on German strategic and operational blunders continue. They continue a failed operation "to Show something for their effort" This is not military strategy . This is a policy for a bankrupted business.
Most military leaders back then were amateurs with big egos.
@@eddgrs9193 Only back then?
Okay froomer (Frog boomer)
Who is downvoting these videos? They are amazing
The Central Powers.
Salty soviets
UA-cam
Conrad Von Hötzendorf
Three dislikes as of now. Must be the leaders of Germany, Austria and not-Turkey.
It's treason, then...
/r/prequelmemes is leaking again?
The Great War yes 😂😂😂
I am the German High Command!
Pershing was smart. Neither the French or British wanted to split their forces to shore up the others line. He was also right about looking to the future. His biggest mistake was using the same tactics Europe was using since 1914 and lost a lot of lives. They should have put a sign outside of headquarters, caution slow generals playing.
The thing is he didn't use 1914 tactics. He may not have been a tactical genius, but it's fallacy to say the Americans had learned nothing from the preceding four years. Pershing's main problem is he wore too many hats for too long. He didn't delegate authority fast enough.
CJ Not that he learned nothing but the tactics used primarily for 1918 were the same as tactics of their contemporaries. They all learned along the way but they continued making blunders. It was common. The Navy fought against aircraft being produced post war just to protect their budget. Took a long time for them all to get on board. Actually it still goes on. The Navy and the Marines see no need for the Army and Airforce.
57WillysCJ That's BS. As a former Marine I can tell you the Marines have an entirely different mission than the army. We can't do what the army does, we aren't built that way. And the army can't do what we do. And the other 3 branches could never replace the Air Force.
+David Spiller My information was from a Marine, actually 2 marines so the b.s. is coming from your brothers. They both put in 20 years.
Pershing has peer pressure
Pershing is Perfect.
Reminds me Queen song: Under Pressure
"England will fight to the last american!" (I forgot who is alledged having said this in 1917)
...just to mitigate any ill-intended glee: "The German lies as soon as he becomes polite." (a german saying)
It would be kind of interesting to know how Princip viewed the war. Did he think he was partly responsible for it? Possibly feeling a bit guilty about it, or not guilty at all. Or maybe he just saw his actions and the war as two seperate things
He was a terrorist, what do you think?
Milan Van der Graaf Great question.
I dont know, people change. And he had a lot of time to think
He felt bad about killing the wife.
thats pretty interesting, one of his black hand associates didnt throw his bomb because he felt sorry for him
That feeling when you're the same age as alot of the notable figures in the war who died.
It's crazy to think about how if we were all born 100 years earlier this would have been our war.
Someone born in 1900 would have experienced before age 50, 2 world wars, one of the greatest pandemics ever, and the Great Depression.
FINALLY! After half a year I'm up to date in this awsome series, keep up the great work Indy and crew!
Welcome to the frontline!!
Welcome to the front
Huh, I never asked myself what happened to Princep after the assassination. I guess I assumed he was swiftly executed in the early days or the war, if not before then. I never guessed he'd be alive in an Austrian prison for most of the war.
Mike D he was too young for the death penalty
He was underaged when he was arrested which means under austrian law he could not get the death penalty.
It was due to his young age that he was not executed.
But what about the assassins of the King and Queen Serbia in 1912?
How could have history changed if not for that regicide?
He was too young to be executed under Austro-Hungarian law
Pershing may have been stubborn, but he was correct.
in principle I'd say he was wrong and he was wrong to think the war would continue in 1919 (but everyone was tbf) but he was right about not overreacting to the Spring Offensive like the other Allied leaders did and he obviously knew his army better than they did
@@johngalvano5895 How was he wrong to think the war would continue in 1919 if everyone did too? It was a proper judgement to make in the moment. And I don't understand how he'd be wrong in principle, either.
@@johngalvano5895 There is no way that anyone in their wildest dreams could have imagined the war ending in 1918 at the time. Saying he was wrong to think the war would last into 1919 is just hindsight.
The biggest concern as I have understood it is that the other allied leaders would use the hardly trained Americans as cannon fodder more or less and I can understand not wanting to be responsible for that. At the end of the day, the war wasn't America's problem
@@johngalvano5895 Everyone thought the war would continue into 1919. That wasn't something that just Pershing believed. As for "in principle I'd say he was wrong", that's just nonsense. He didn't want to send under trained soldiers into battle against highly trained and battle hardened enemies, and he didn't want to separate a huge part of his army and spread themselves super thin the way the other allies wanted and had done with horrible consequences. He made a smart decision. He was completely right to do so.
Question of Out of the Trenches: In a recent video there were pictures and footage of moterbikes with Lewis guns on them, but not much explanation of what they were or what they were for. I want to know everything about them.
@Optimus Princeps Bob Boblington You need a spin off channel that is made specifically for people like you. Look up C&Rsenal on youtube. ua-cam.com/video/FlsEmE5pM10/v-deo.html . They cover what it was used for. They specialize this niche for viewers for the Great War show. They do it very well too. I hope I have helped.
What I can say to save your time is, the lewis gun was mostly utilized as a weapon on vehicles. (Planes, bikes, and etc.) One area the American developers got feed back the European power potential customers was the fact it showed some promise as a gun on planes. (The lewis gun is in fact an American invention.) The lewis gun from what I hear mostly got used as a fighter plan's mounted gun for Britain and various other nations. Most of the people that used it were other nations other than the U.S. They never really used it. In the early years it almost got adopted as the U.S.'s machine gun, but it encountered a figure in the military causing resistance . The link I showed covers more about it.
Well, the Yanks are coming. Slowly, but surely.
Should have invaded Canada instead.
Wait till the end of May and start June. You'll see a Big Red One and some Devil Dogs in an attack.
We didn't need to join the Krauts on the ground.
All we needed to do was invade Canada, impose blockade and work with the German Navy at sea.
Such actions would have ended the war early, saved the self contained, glorious, Austro-Hungarian Empire, and put an end to the wicked British/French empires.
I wouldn't refer to anyone who was having trouble with Italy as "glorious."
Johnnyc drums 😂😂😂
Win the battle.... Lose the War....
mrkerochan Choice of Evil lies before your feet?
Retrat! Retreat! Retreat!
Can you guys mention more stuff from the smaller countries, having watched all the episodes I have noticed that since the beggining of the Russian revolution you stopped paying so much attention during your regular episodes to the smaller countries. Heck I think the last time Bulgaria was even mentioned was back in august of 2017.
Love the show though! One of the best on the whole site!
we mention them when notable things happen there.
A comprehensive review of the Russian Revolution would deserve a year's worth of episodes. Unfortunately time and financial constraints have rendered that prospect out of the question.
BUt when will you do a show on Liberia declaring War on Germany after the shelling of its Capital city?
NeØn -iwnl- In a few days a major action will involve Bulgaria
I love Pershing's b@dass quote about the three Hs:
"Heaven, HeII, or Hoboken."
[meaning 'by Christmas, we’ll be in one of those places']
Aren't the last two the same place?
I too love "h3ll", whatever it is. Video game title?
Arcralf
Yeah, but it's a rushed sequel, unfortunately. I mean, just look at the title, the lettering is all wrong. It's supposed to be H311. H310 was much better.
I don't know, but I was probably being regarded as spam when I tried to write the word "heII"
(edit: fixed)
Technically, its is ghenna, and is now a park outside Jerusalem. ;)
Princip is dead! Any tears shed? I have mixed feelings about this....
Nuance, what's that?
Princip is a hero for all Yugoslavs not just Serbs. There are many songs devoted to him and the best ones (in my opinion) was by Bosnian muslim Safet Isovic. Its just people here built such a beef over the last 30 years that everyone except Serbs restrain to praise him openly, he was one of the many things that held us together.
No wonder he got TB.
And then GP's house was destroyed. Ouch.
He was just a dumb kid who lit the match over gunpowder covered Europe. He didn't cause all the millions of deaths. But he did accelerate the time of their deaths. So he is guilty that millions of young men died months earlier than they would have otherwise.
Fresh new episode on my birthday. Thanks gents!
Happy Birthday!
Thank you!
Pershing's insistence on having an independent U.S. Army appears to be the same as Sir Arthur Currie's insistence on having an independent Canadian Corps during this time. Rather than let their troops be dispersed as canon fodder for other generals, they want their own cohesive commands serving clear objectives. I would guess that Allenby is also feeling this way in Palestine right now.
Like many here, I started this series pretty recently and am now up to date. I have to say, this is a fantastic channel. All Quiet on the Western Front got me interested in WWI a few years back and this channel is really informative.
Once again Portugal was mention YEAH! LOL, A part of history that gave us the worst a death of our last king, the worst democracy ever, and a dictatorship of almost 40 years ... One of the darkest periods of our history...
andre borges this makes absolutely no sense. King Carlos I died in 1908, 6 years before the outbreak of The Great War, 8 years before Portugal joining the war. Thus, the first republic started way before the war, and had nothing to do with it. The dictatorship you speak about started in 1933, 15 years after the end of the war, way closer to WWII than WWI.
Thanks for bringing the facts to life, so the first half of the XX century gave all of what I said in the 30 plus years.
am I the only one that chuckled when I heard "tank on tank...", i also thought to myself "that's not how tanks reproduce, silly" :D
You see, when a Tank loves another Tank very much...
Gunna stop here before I am blammed for Slaaneshi talk.
too late!... heretek!
I read a book years ago about the flying aces of WWI. The author said that many allied pilots flew and dropped flowers in respect of the Red Baron during his funeral.
Just seems odd with all the slaughter occurring there seems to be little flickers of humanity.
Great show as usual!
Indy this video is my favourite of the great war week. Thanks
I trying to get many of my friends to see this because it's such a great educational series and extremely interesting to watch.
Great Episode as always!
Love these videos
Ooh! Question for Out of the Trenches! I saw machine guns I didn't recognize. I saw the Chauchat and Lewis gun, but what were those on the tripods the Americans were training with? I think one may have been a Vickers, but I'm not sure.
Colt-browning M-1895.
Browning Potato digger.
another brilliant episode
Closing in on 1 million, doing well The Great War Channel.
seeing those crows' feet on your desk makes me shudder for the horses in the cavalry.
3:23 misspoken quote fragment, "...what left there is..."
I think Indy was having a Yoda moment.
I don't know guys, think the war will be over before christmas.
Thomas Malone i already made this joke at the 25th of December 19... ehm 2017 sorry.
great vid--- my head is spinning to take it all in though
I can totally understand why the Allied Powers were desperate to get the Yanks in the field, and I can also totally understand why Pershing wanted to hold back.
Dang great videos
Finally feels like the climax is approaching!!!
Hello Indy!
Ah, one of my weekly constants.
The Salonika front. No word for a long time! Very static?
Scott Bergquist All sides spenting lot of time training and organizing, but in a few days...
We are waiting Franchet d'Espèrey do be set as a commander of the Allied Army of the Orient at Salonika. And than...
what a great song
Was that guy really firing a Lewis Gun from the shoulder ?!
@TheWalkingPed93 Yes. Here's the thing though. Just because you see a person doing it doesn't tell you enough. It leaves out the info of how often they done it, how well it is at doing that action, and how many actually done it.
From what I hear it's not best suited for carrying it around and utilizing it like a B.A.R. It was still kind of hefty. It wasn't impossible to do. It's just you're going to be slower, and more prone to be winded than a person using a B.A.R. (Don't imagine in your head a person can use that thing like cqb like a smg and be very quick and outmatch every person you engage that uses a smg. You're going to be sluggish, and feel cumbersome from its weight after a while.) This was during the years where people started learning what is the advantages of a L.M.G. and what qualities that makes the best L.M.G. yet.
Wow Pershing I never thought of him
Can we have a who did what in ww1 for greek pm eleftherios venizelos please
At least this time was the Essalt successful^^
When will you talk about Liberia and its war with Germany in Africa???
Ahh yes, the infamous German shelling of Monrovia
Hi Guys amazing show
Can you plz talk about the Egyptian soldiers during the war in the out of the trenches episodes or special.
Thanks for ur hard work guys love the show
Those U.S army pioneer hats are awesome
Could you please put links to the specials you mention at the end of your videos in video descriptions below?
Didn’t President Wilson have the authority to order Pershing to deploy at once?
I would love an episode on Henry Moore during the First World War he became one of the most famous sculptors ever
SPOILERS: Germany dies in Infinity War
guys you need to visit sarajevo !
I LOVE HISTORY
Is the music playing in the background during the episode a custom song or do you use a excerpt from a song?
I miss hearing about the 1st and 2nd Battle of the Marusian Lakes(1914, 1915), 1st and 2nd Ypres(1914, 1915), the 1st and 2nd Battles of Artois and Champagne(1914, 1915), Loos(1915), Neuve Chappelle(1915, cool name), Cambrai(1917), the Aisne/Race to the Sea(1914), and the Battle of the Frontiers(1914).
Hello the great war team, any chance of a submarine aviation special? Or could you do an OTT on the evolution of sub aviation Thanks!
I'm pretty sure that history has shown Pershing to be correct. He did not want our troops wasted using European tactics which were now known to be outdated. Also, they needed time to train for the conditions in Europe, and for new tactics. Also, very likely our troops fought better under their own leaders and command structure than they would have for faceless European generals who persisted in using antiquated tactics. Our troops probably would have been placed alongside Allied troops in company sized units, negating our organization and command structure. The troops would not have felt like they wre fighting for America. That would have negatively affected their fighting spirit. There is a reason why Pershing was the only living man ever promoted to the rank of General of the Armies (yes plural, the theoretical sixth star).
I would like to see a more in depth detail of the french at Gallipoli
Woah. The trial-part was hard to follow, haha. As convoluted as the war itself, just everything happening way faster.
Will you do a special episode on the Treaty of Versailles?
I couldn’t believe that Princip died of TB after he touched off the spark of WW1! I never knew this until now...
1:07 - Young boy on the left wearing a full military uniform.
My grandfather lost 3 uncles in WW1. One of the 3 came home but died within 1 year. He lost his mind due to German Gas and died while undertaking Medical Care in Georgia.
The American Colt machine guns are soooo freakin' cool!!
I have question about what Lloyd George 'said': did he actually say that, or was that something he wrote? I don't know either way as I don't know your source for the quote.
It’s actually kind of amazing that Pershing actually showed that he at least didn’t want to squander American lives needlessly. Seems like one of the few generals in this war to do so.
"Autro-Hungarian Emperor Carl" How anticlimatic.
It's sad that the Ottomans that were so great of a power for centuries fell in a embarrassing world war 1 proformance
My great grandfather wass one of those pulled out of the middle east and returned to the western front. in resisting the german assault mounted infantry and cavalry had provided much covering support and so cavalry was being used again in europe. a note to indy and crew, a large number of the 'british' troops now in allenby's army were in fact from India. Far from home fighting for the empire these professional soldiers are often overlooked for their contributions.
As for Gavrilo, never was a death so richly deserved. though in Sebia, he's seen as a national hero for acting for 'greater serbia' the same cry that led to countless atrocities in the 1990's in places with names like Bosnia.
Our shadows will still frightened austrian genlmen.gavrilo princip. Rip hero
"Our shadows will be walking through Vienna, strolling through the court, frightening lords. "
Daddy Pershing!!
Go Pershing!
Dang it i caught up
what will you do when you have finished it? im thinking of doing more out of the trenches episodes.
random, but I am actually from the city Spa, he mentioned
You guys should cover the Russian civil war in its entireity in the same way you cover WWI. Would you ever be willing to? Also a nice touch would be your opinions on the Kaiserreich timeline of WWI and into the Russian Civil War.
Isn't it crazy how the war ends in 6 months but everyones still gearing up for full scale combat, the germans seemingly stronger then ever having ended the Russian threat. Its nuts. This war is nuts.
I wonder what if Pershing had put more American soldiers in the line when he was pressured too. Would he have wasted resources like he claimed. Or would it not have been the case. It would've been nice to see a video on that. Oh well. Great job.
I really hope if you can make an episode about Romania under the treaty of Bucharest and the Romanians in Transilvania
Minor correction: Princip was 23 when he died
@outofthetrenches With so many deaths and burials a couple had to be buried alive,so my question is how many(that we know of)soldiers were buried alive?
I wonder what Garvillo thought of all that happened and all the death..
Rip I hope November never comes
question dith the german army also attacked the belgian lines ?
05:40 can someone give sources for the reprisals
What about Portuguese casualties in the Battle of La Lys?
What was the trial called?
Cant wait for the wwII series....
Who were those children?? That's a story worth telling indeed.