Science Fiction Double Feature: The Human Vapor Vs 4D Man

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  • @JohnMinehan-lx9ts
    @JohnMinehan-lx9ts 27 днів тому +2

    Robert Lansing was an underappreciated actor. 87th Precinct, Custer on a memorable story arc (as it is now called) on Branded, and The Man Who Never Was.

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  27 днів тому +1

      He was always intense which might've stereotyped him a bit, but a solid actor.

    • @JohnMinehan-lx9ts
      @JohnMinehan-lx9ts 27 днів тому

      @@terrytalksmovies I forgot 12 O'Clock High, I thought he did well with BGen Savage as a weekly TV show character, made him less intense and unsympathetic than Peck.

    • @JohnMinehan-lx9ts
      @JohnMinehan-lx9ts 27 днів тому

      @@terrytalksmovies I forgot 12 O'Clock High, I thought he did well with BGen Savage as a weekly TV show character, made him less intense and unsympathetic than Peck.

  • @jamestaylor3811
    @jamestaylor3811 29 днів тому +2

    4D Man is a cracking movie with remarkably impressive effects for the late 1950s. I haven't seen The Human Vapor but it definitely intrigues me.

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  29 днів тому +1

      The Human Vapor is definitely worth tracking down.

  • @adambenton9673
    @adambenton9673 Місяць тому +3

    Human Vapor is definitely on my agenda for the weekend🤘

  • @Gazebo48
    @Gazebo48 29 днів тому +2

    The Human Vapor is a very good watch for all the reasons you cited, Terry. Honda was as comfortable directing family dramas as he was with tokusatsu and I think it's not a coincidence that he frequently included newspaper reporters, often women, as supporting actors in his movies using them as audience surrogates. His efforts to give ordinary people voices in his movies is part of what elevated his special effects films above the majority of science fiction movies of his era

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  29 днів тому +1

      Definitely, the strength of the characters enhances the peril of the monsters. If they feel realistic, we care.

  • @thomasrednour8857
    @thomasrednour8857 Місяць тому +6

    "Cousins, identical cousins" - perhaps the silliest idea for a TV show in the glorious 60s. Starring Patty Duke as Patty/Cathy (the cousin from England) on (surprise) The Patty Duke Show.

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  Місяць тому +2

      Yep. The theme song is a banger, though.

    • @kaboombox1581
      @kaboombox1581 Місяць тому

      …and now I can’t stop singing that song.

    • @Torgo-and-the-Lucifer-Cat
      @Torgo-and-the-Lucifer-Cat 26 днів тому +1

      ​@kaboombox1581 do you like to rock and roll? Does a hotdog make you lose control??😂

  • @jamescooper944
    @jamescooper944 Місяць тому +6

    The love interest killed the monster? Beauty has been killing the beast since 1933!

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  Місяць тому +2

      Fay Wray didn't kill King Kong. His obsession with her did. That arsehole blamed the victim.

  • @jeffmartin1026
    @jeffmartin1026 29 днів тому +2

    Friday Night SFDF for those of us on the East Coast in the U.S. I'm a big fan of 4D Man but I will definitely look for The Human Vapor this weekend! I love your hat!!

  • @Scimarad
    @Scimarad 19 днів тому +1

    I needed to skip the rest of the 4D Man section because I already knew I'd be watching that after a couple of minutes:)

  • @rgmax6205
    @rgmax6205 28 днів тому +1

    Haven’t seen 4D Man since the early 70s but remember it as a decent film. The Human Vapor I’ve never heard of but looks very interesting. Going to watch both , thanks for digging these up. Fantastic job as usual!

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  28 днів тому

      It's always a pleasure. Glad you liked the video.

  • @Nedski42YT
    @Nedski42YT 29 днів тому +3

    I don't think I've ever heard of The Human Vapor. I found it on the Internet Archive so I will watch it soon. I would double feature it with another Ishiro Honda movie The H-Man. These have some similarities in they are both set in contemporary Japan of the late 1950's. They both also have the police procedural aspect searching for a man who can't be seen.

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  29 днів тому +1

      The H Man isn't as good as The Human Vapor. It's fun but not as complex and interesting.

    • @themagus5906
      @themagus5906 29 днів тому

      "The H-Man" sucked and isn't even worth watching. Honda at his worst. It was like Cronenberg making a film about gynecology as a religion.

  • @terencemorales7894
    @terencemorales7894 28 днів тому +1

    I've seen and enjoyed the 4D Man movie a couple times, but The Human Vapor is a new one for me. I'm going to add that one to my ever growing list of excellent movie recommendations from you. Thanks and please keep up the good work!

  • @MISHKINPUSH
    @MISHKINPUSH 29 днів тому +1

    As a kid, I always enjoyed the 4D Man. It has a great soundtrack and Robert Lansing is fun to watch. I like the clip you showed of the first experiment. I always find myself wishing you would show more clips, but I know there are restrictions. I never heard of the Human Vapor and will definitely seek it out. This was a great pairing of movies! Thanks for another fun video.

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  29 днів тому

      My pleasure. Balancing the clips is a difficult task at times. I want to be fair to the viewers and the copyright holders but it's not always easy. 😀

  • @denniskristos3800
    @denniskristos3800 29 днів тому +1

    EXCELLENT breakdown, Terry... Last year for the first time, I watched the "4D Man" on Me-TV's Svengoolie. I too thought it for what it was and at the budget it was made, impressive. I was a Robert Lansing fan from way back in the day so that movie was a must-see. The Japanese cut of "The Human Vapor", however appealed on a much higher level and for all the reasons you state here. I found Yoshio Tsuchiya's turn as 'Mizuno' and Kaoru Yachigusa as 'Fujichiyo Kasuga' were outstanding and the relationship between them, grounded and relatable, making for the film's surprising impactful and satisfying end. During the last 20 years or so, I've been jonesing for a legit physical media release (Blu-ray or DVD for that matter ), the Japanese cut of "The Human Vapor". Hmm, anybody at Mill Creek, Arrow, [Imprint], Umbrella or Eureka! listening...?
    ~ "Most actors get comfortable with a certain genre, and they stick to that. But as far as I was concerned, it was equally prestigious to appear in science-fiction films or in Kurosawa movies."
    - Yoshio Tsuchiya
    Tsuchiya was a staple on Toho's and Toei's golden and silver age soundstages. Among his other roles in their Kaiju and Tokusatsu films: The Leader of "The Mysterians", the invading Natals' brainwashed dupe, 'Iwomura' in "Battle In Outer Space", 'Detective Taguchi' in "The H-Man", 'Kasai', the boat owner in "Matango" ("Attack Of The Mushroom People"), "Invasion Of Astro Monster"'s ("Monster Zero") 'Planet-X Controller', 'Furikawa' in "Son Of Godzilla", 'Dr. Otani' in "Destroy All Monsters", Dr. Kiyochi Mida' in "Space Amoeba", 'Dr. Mizuno' in "Teito Taisen" ("Tokyo: The Last War") and industrial magnate, 'Yasuaki Shindo' in "Godzilla vs King Ghidorah".

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  29 днів тому +1

      TBH the acting in The Human Vapor was really solid and grounded by all the players. No exaggerations, just solid character building. That lifted the work above some of the others of the era.

  • @Barot8
    @Barot8 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you Terry. I thought I'd seen the 4d Man but it turns out I was thinking of the Lon Chaney film. Good overview. I'll have to hunt down the Human Vapor and 4d Man.

  • @willcorlett7630
    @willcorlett7630 Місяць тому +1

    Another good video, featuring another pair of lesser known movies, thanks.
    Of the two I always preferred the Human Vapour, it has a quirky feel and perhaps takes itself more seriously when putting the story accross, but both are worth watching.

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  Місяць тому

      I agree with the analysis. The Human Vapor is somethign special.

  • @adamkrenn6323
    @adamkrenn6323 29 днів тому +1

    Always enjoy your videos! I've been a fan of Human Vapor (aka Gas Person No. 1 on my old bootleg) for a long time, and all the Mutant Trilogy (now called Transforming Human trilogy). 4D man is one I remember from when I was young, I'll have to seek it out. I remember years ago when I was seeking out all post WWII Showa era sci-fi films and snagged Attack of the Mushroom People and Dogora at the same time and based on the title, lobby cards and what little I could gleam from the internet, I thought AofMP was going to be a silly farce and Dogora was going to be weird and dark, only to find the opposite was true. It was a good lesson in giving all of these films a chance, and the reward I received watching some of them. Matango is still one of my favorites, as is The Human Vapor.

  • @brettcoster4781
    @brettcoster4781 29 днів тому +1

    Great presentation of 2 movies I've not (yet) seen.

  • @ClutchCargo001
    @ClutchCargo001 Місяць тому +1

    I don't remember 4D Man from my TV intensive childhood, but i finally caught it a few months ago. So much better than what was coming out at the time. Surprised Terry didn't mention the superior jazz score.

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  Місяць тому +1

      I forgot to but I had a note. The jazz scores really slaps.

  • @KarlBunker
    @KarlBunker Місяць тому +1

    I love both of these, and it's been too long since I watched _The Human Vapor;_ I'll have to see if I can find the subtitled Japanese version.
    I wish I could have a young Lee Meriwether tilt her hat for me, but I'm probably too much of a stress puppy for her.
    And thank you, Terry, for teaching me two fun and useful phrases today. 😁

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  Місяць тому

      My pleasure, Karl. Glad you liked the video. 😀

  • @garfieldsmith332
    @garfieldsmith332 Місяць тому +1

    Great review as usual. 4D Man is a good little film. First saw it at a theater. I have The H Man but have not seen The Human Vapor (Vapour) so I will have to search it out.

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  Місяць тому

      Definitely find The Human Vapor and the Japan version if you can.

  • @captlazer5509
    @captlazer5509 29 днів тому +2

    Robert Lansing had quite an acting career in television. As Mr 7, in the original Star Trek, sticks out for me. 4D Man, I haven't seen in ages. Might be time to look it up.

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  29 днів тому +2

      He had a certain taciturn style about him.

    • @themagus5906
      @themagus5906 29 днів тому

      @@terrytalksmovies Always loved Lansing. He was always so deadpan. He was always cast as the "very serious" guy in a screenplay. Wasn't 4D Man made at Valley Forge Film Studios by the same crew who made "The Blob"? I have the DVD but haven't watched it in a while.

  • @MrMifune666
    @MrMifune666 29 днів тому +1

    Back in the old days of Melbourne when it was a necessity to have half a dozen video store membership cards to get all the stuff you wanted, I distinctly remember joining one solely in order to hire "4-D Man".
    I'm a huge Robert Lansing fan. He was criminally underrated. Emerging from that Steve McQueen / Paul Newman / James Dean school of acting of the late 50s he carved out a TV career of bits and pieces when he really should have had far greater stature in the cultural zeitgeist. The Twilight Zone episode "The Long Morrow" is a readily available example of his assets.
    If you can manage to (by hook or by crook) check out "87th Precinct" you'll see one of his few star turns playing a police detective (whose wife was portrayed by Gena Rowlands) to see that unutilised potential.

  • @sansabark
    @sansabark 29 днів тому +1

    Haven’t seen The 4D Man since I saw it on Superhost back in the day.

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  29 днів тому +1

      It's worth tracking down. The KL disk version is pretty good.

  • @Nedski42YT
    @Nedski42YT 29 днів тому +1

    The 4D Man has been one of my favorites for a long time. I would propose it be a double feature with X: The Man with the X-Ray Eyes. Both have a similar story line about a scientist whose discovery leads to a tragic end. ALSO they both have actors who provide comic relief in other movies but not in these productions. I speak of Don Rickles and Robert Strauss of course!

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  29 днів тому +1

      Robert Strauss plays it straight in 4D Man. He was also an actor not well-regarded in the industry.

  • @frankmccormick5499
    @frankmccormick5499 Місяць тому +2

    "4D Man" was produced and directed by the folks who did the original 1958 version of "The Blob", hence the the same "The End?" finale.
    How do I know this? Scenes from both movies were filmed in my hometown of West Chester, PA, USA. (The clock tower at the beginning of 4D is the Chester County Courthouse and the grocery store sequence in The Blob was at what was an Acme Market in the West Goshen Shopping Center. The Fire Chief was my father's Best Man.)

  • @peterkarargiris4110
    @peterkarargiris4110 Місяць тому +2

    Excellent video Terry. I've not heard of either of these movies - adding them to the wish list now. Cheers and have a nice weekend.

  • @pugwall316
    @pugwall316 28 днів тому +1

    4D is a new one to me! Thanks! 🙏

  • @BeoZard
    @BeoZard Місяць тому +1

    Two excellent movies, You could add The H-Man and make it a triple feature.

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  Місяць тому

      For me, The H-Man is a lesser movie than The Human Vapor. It doesn't humanise the monster.

  • @ZoinkBnoink
    @ZoinkBnoink 29 днів тому

    Thanks Terry. I'll definitely search for these two films. Different sc fi angles from a lot of the pew pew sci fi movies of the time. Great review.

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  29 днів тому

      Thanks so much. I was a bit unsure of this one, but I'm happy to be told it hit. 😀

  • @aengusmacnaughton1375
    @aengusmacnaughton1375 29 днів тому +1

    Yikes -- 4D Man love story is giving me dangerous flashbacks!!!!! 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  29 днів тому +1

      The triangle is very odd but par for the course in the 1950s.

    • @aengusmacnaughton1375
      @aengusmacnaughton1375 29 днів тому

      @@terrytalksmovies -- Yep, the woman just had a real hard time getting over me aging 40 years every night! 🤣🤣🤣

  • @mrlondellsgroovymovies
    @mrlondellsgroovymovies Місяць тому +1

    Both of these are Groovy Movies, and are in the database.

  • @warrenerickson4159
    @warrenerickson4159 29 днів тому +1

    There is another old Science Fiction movie starring a Star Trek acting pair called Dimension 5 with Jeffrey Hunter and France Nuyen.

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  29 днів тому

      Dimension 5 is really weak. Such a low energy science fiction movie.

    • @warrenerickson4159
      @warrenerickson4159 29 днів тому

      @@terrytalksmovies Must be why I only remember the actors and not anything at all about the plot.

  • @JohnMinehan-lx9ts
    @JohnMinehan-lx9ts 27 днів тому +1

    The Human Vapor sounds like a Julius Shwartz/John Broome Flash story from the time.

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  27 днів тому

      The Human Vapor might've influenced The Flash. It happened with comics.

    • @JohnMinehan-lx9ts
      @JohnMinehan-lx9ts 27 днів тому

      @@terrytalksmovies Certainly, in general style. Sort of like the second cPT Cold story . . . where CPT Cold feel in love with Irish West, Barry Allen's "News Hen" significant other.

  • @Cameroo
    @Cameroo 29 днів тому +1

    Been a hot minute but I remember enjoying Ishirō Honda's The H-Man. Also Projected Man has a very similiar idea of a scientist getting a power with a nasty upside. Well, it's more like getting a nasty downside period. XD Curious if there is a term for this kind of scientist super power downside trope? I imagine it starts with fiction like the invisible man and the like.

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  29 днів тому

      It's almost like a scientific version of vampirism.

  • @ohppig1
    @ohppig1 Місяць тому +1

    Huh, wikipedia says that there is a Netflix miniseries adaptation of The Human Vapor in development.

  • @jamescooper944
    @jamescooper944 Місяць тому +1

    Cousins, identical cousins! ❤️❤️

  • @RamZar50
    @RamZar50 Місяць тому +2

    A lot of the sci-fi movies of the 1950s & 1960s were trash especially if you watched them first in the 1960s like I did. There’s no denying that the 1950s gave us a lot to ponder and laid down the foundation.
    I was totally awe-struck when I first watched “The Mysterians” (1957) in the mid-1960s as a kid. For years I had been searching for it and finally got the newly released DVD around 2005. Let’s just that it’s not good at all.
    The one that has held up superbly is “Forbidden Planet” (1958) even with the analog instrumentation.
    A number of the classic sci-fi movies were remade with mixed success. The remake of “The Day the Earth Stood Still” is bad but the remake of “The Thing” is superb.

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  Місяць тому

      Yep, remakes are hit and miss but going back to original sources always works well.

    • @RamZar50
      @RamZar50 Місяць тому

      @@terrytalksmovies A YT video comparing the original sci-fi movie versus the remake would be a great one.

  • @taker68
    @taker68 29 днів тому +1

    Sounds like Marvel's the Vision or Kitty Pryde of the X-Men. Haven't seen either of these. I've wanted to see The Human Vapor for a long time, can't find a copy or on streaming. I did see The H Man which I assume is similar.

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  29 днів тому

      The H Man is parallel but different to The Human Vapor.

  • @alphawoolf5981
    @alphawoolf5981 29 днів тому

    If you haven't seen it, try Secret of Telegian. It's very similar to Human Vapor.

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  29 днів тому

      I have seen Secret of the Telegian and I did it for the channel about a year ago. I still think The Human Vapor is a stronger story.

  • @dogzdad123
    @dogzdad123 28 днів тому

    Terry: Is the "The Human Vapor" and "The H-Man" essentially the same story?
    Also, was it just color film stock used in the 50's by major and minor studios so inferior that any representations (online or other) grainy?
    -Thanks

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  28 днів тому

      Different stories, definitely. Real film stock has grain in it. One of the probs with 4K upgrades is that some people are digitally removing the grain and the movies look creepily smooth. Cameron has done it and George Lucas' American Grafitti has had it done too.

  • @timeliebe
    @timeliebe 29 днів тому +1

    I just bought THE 4D MAN from Kino/Lorber here in the U.S. I remember the special effects work being really impressive for the late 1950, or even 1970s-and yeah, Robert Lansing gives it his all, probably because the rest of the cast were either never any good, or (in Lee Meriwether's case) too inexperienced.
    Can't remember if I've ever seen THE HUMAN VAPOR-I feel like I have but I don't remember anything about it.

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  29 днів тому +1

      If you can find it, The Human Vapor is well above the level of a lot of its contemporaries.

  • @JohnMinehan-lx9ts
    @JohnMinehan-lx9ts 27 днів тому +1

    Can a vapor 'dive?"

  • @JohnMinehan-lx9ts
    @JohnMinehan-lx9ts 27 днів тому +1

    Not a bad "pop science fiction film, sort of like DC comics of the time with Jack Schiff as editor as opposed to Julius Schwartz.

  • @jamesgrassia844
    @jamesgrassia844 Місяць тому +1

    Wasn’t there another Japanese movie similar to The Human Vapor called The H Man?

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  Місяць тому

      Similar but not as good. There was also The Secret of the Telegian.

  • @maxpayne2574
    @maxpayne2574 Місяць тому +1

    As an aside Gary Seven is my number 2 reason to dislike suits medaling with sci fi. Firefly is number 1

  • @hugopritchard8455
    @hugopritchard8455 Місяць тому

    What is the bebop tune you use for your show theme?

    • @terrytalksmovies
      @terrytalksmovies  Місяць тому

      It's production music from epidemic sound.

    • @hugopritchard8455
      @hugopritchard8455 Місяць тому +1

      @@terrytalksmovies I'm a sax player. I wondered if it's something I've played before.

    • @hugopritchard8455
      @hugopritchard8455 Місяць тому +1

      I think of 4D man as a variant of the vampire theme.

    • @hugopritchard8455
      @hugopritchard8455 Місяць тому +1

      You help me get to know Asian (mainly Japanese) cinema better--there more to Japanese science fiction movies than Godzilla.

    • @hugopritchard8455
      @hugopritchard8455 Місяць тому +1

      By the way, the 4D man was filmed in the same town in PA as The Blob. Both films launched many actors careers, Steve McQueen, Lee
      Merriweather, Patty Duke.