The revolution has proven to the French that masses can change politics and send seemingly invincibility powerful people to the Guillotine. Many other countries lack that powerful experience, and therefore the feeling „yes, if we really want it, then we ordinary people can actually force the politicians to do what we want“.
Well, Britain also had that one time you chopped off a king's head. We took it one step further and chopped off many more people's heads. As you say, very powerful people were brought down a feet or so, which is actually still empowering us and still in the nightmares of the powerful (this was obvious during the yellow vests protests). The downside, is that in these situations (1793), it's not just the most powerful who get sent off to the chopping block, but many more people, some of which are totally innocent or not that high and mighty. And then you get that stick waved at you : "you're going down the Terror road", which is a powerful way to put down so-called "radicals".
@@bonhommierr1501 "Many people were brought down a feet". Shouldn't you say... many people were brought down ... a head ? (yes, this is the door, I see it...)
As a french person I think it's quite easy and not so thoughtful to link our present actions to the revolution. How we behave now has more to do with our workers unions history from the XXth century. It's not something we talk about when needing courage. And please bear in mind that the revolution did not come from the working class, nor a national uprising. It came from (what is in great Britain called ) the new mone class, for money and status reasons.
Radical and non-violent activists are not supposed to be opposed to each other, they are simply two different layers of the same struggle, in this case the climate struggle. - Non-violent movements are necessary because they are the most likely to reach people and slowly change mentalities, they are able to gather more people and create a political bloc that penetrates the political sphere. This is what they need to specialise in: reaching people. - Radical movements are necessary because they are a clear way to show, through blockades, disruptions, demonstrations and open fights, that a part of society is ready to openly threaten the stability and balance of power if they are not heard. Most of the time, their activists come from non-violent movements (which is another reason why they are needed). Another part of their work is to create news shockwaves that allow other activists to reach the mainstream media. Activists do not have to work against each other, they actually have to work together to maximise the impact of their mobilisations. This is a basic rule of thumb for efficient communication in liberal democracies.
I agree, French people are more obnoxious and destructive. This only proves one thing, Urban elites have the time and vanity to try and mess with everyone elses lives. Radicals have been causing mass death and horror since 1792, nothing to be looked up to.
Yes but Climate activism" is a Trojan horse. The real protests in France art not about the climate. It's about the deconstruction of French principles, sovereignty, social System and the discrimination of the middle class and low class.
Isn't it ironic that all of these green energy policies are making energy costs prohibitively more expensive & disproportionately hurting the working class & most vulnerable in society the most. But why would middle class activist toffs care about this with their privileged Waitrose/Guardian lifestyles? You people are a sick joke.
Yeah, I see that working nicely 😂 People that say things like that either don't want to think about it or it's not capable of it. It's just a wrong way of thinking and in practice
non-violent civil disobedience changes nothing..that's what we've seen especially for the last three years before the corrupt world governments...so yes, French protesters are way more effective and Long Live the spirit of French Revolution ✊👏👏
Non-violent civil disobedience doesn't work unless there is the threat of force is non-violence doesn't work. "Speak softly, but carry a big stick" is an effective form of protest. Just don't leave out the big stick!
As a French person, I can tell there are many projects such as the project in Castres in many other places, and people are raising their voices and walls against it, but mainstream media just don't care, and don't talk about it so I didn't know there was a such important protest in Castres.
@@sueyourself5413 c'est deja ce que je fais en réalité, mais de manière générale je n'en ai pas entendu parler plus que ça alors que je m'informe littéralement tous les jours
@@StelR_lovelife this is a real problem ! C'est un vrai problème . De même, j'essaye de m'informer assez souvent mais ce qu'il se passe c'est j'allume la radio ou je regarde médiapart et je vois que j'ai ENCORE raté un évènment auquel j'aurai vraiment voulu participer. I also try and keep udpated on the regular but what seems to happen is I turn on the radio or watch mediapart and i've missed yet again another protest I really wanted to take part in !
@@stephanieshine2098 Pour ça ça peut être bien de regarder le programme proposé par les Soulèvements de la Terre justement, sur leur site ou sur les réseaux. Quand on va à une manif, il y a aussi des représentants d’autres collectifs qui viennent parler de leur lutte, ça peut aider à s’informer au passage. Et du 3 au 6 août il y a une grande réunion au Larzac, rassemblant beaucoup de collectifs français !
and what is frustrating is that in France we're not winning either! However I'm very proud of what we're doing and will keep intensifying. But yep talking strategy is tough, we need more books more training more debate more think tanks more expertise we need food for thought and spaces to think and talk
Dear Sarah, I’m doing a research on the most affective methods of climate action and non violent civil disobedience and disruption. As I understood you are active in France? Could I connect to you to give more details about my research and possibly do an interview with you?
I think the radical difference between the French and the British is that while the French have been raised on democratic values where the people have power, the English have been raised on the values of the monarchy, where the people obey without question.
The monarchy is just nationalism. Britain has a deeply rooted history with American neoliberalism. France being closer to socialized European countries was able to keep its political education while the west lost it.
You do realise that Britain is not a monarchy rule and hasn't been for hundreds of years. Everybody questions the monarchy. We aren't raised on blind obedience.
@@matwatson7947 It's very true but not in the same way. The way the english abandonned the monarchy wasn't as steep as the french. There's literally not a single remain of nobility in France, the noble are just bourgeois right now. They either joined the rich people or got totally annihilated, literally. Noble title doesn't even exist anymore in France, they are not recognized by the state since the 1800s. Meanwhile the House of Lords still exist in England, even though it's not really only for noble but hereditary which is not exactly the same.
Climate activism" is a Trojan horse. The real protests in France art not about the climate. It's about the deconstruction of French principles, sovereignty, social System and the discrimination of the middle class and low class.
People reaaaally need to understand that a non-disruptive protest will NEVER bare any fruits. Not even in dreams. Changes happen after confrontation. As long as you keep it non-distruptive, with these children chants as if you were in elementary school, you'll be treated like rain on a coat. Just need to wait and hop, it clears by itself. Stop being afraid. The fight is miles greater than you little persona.
@@jonahscher-zagier8196 Life is violent. It is by essence extremely challenging. Living in an ivy tower doesn't make it less true. Everything is cyclic, then as much as we hate it, we NEED/MUST fight to keep things our way. And this will never, ever happen with children chants and by blocking some roads. You don't need to do a full hardcore revolution as in the past (yet), but you need to do something that will remind people in power from who they are allowed to have said "power".
@@dillonblair6491 yes it was, the French don't rely on luck and politeness to get what they need. If they don't get what they need they will fight for it. We have enough worldly resources to end all issues. To end water shortages, to end all hunger, to end homelessness. And we just refuse. It's not as if the resources are not there.
America is weird, we point to MLK Jr. As an example of how to do peaceful protest, forgetting that they did more disruptive stuff and was called all the same stuff anti-fa is called today. American leftists decry violent protest and just completely forget it's the only protest that ever works.
MLK's literal strategy was non-violence even in the face of outright violence from police and counterprotestors. Effective or not, ethical or otherwise, it's simply ahistorical to claim otherwise. He was called radical and disruptive because he was: non-violence is radical in societies that glorify violence-like yours and like mine-and one can disrupt the status quo without randomly hurting people.
Protests should be strategic not symbolic. Yes At the same, people do need to remember that protests are not actually a way of getting stuff done. They are a way of pressuring people in positions of power to do so. That means that protesters aren't the ones who have to make difficult decisions or compromises. The goal is to make democracy work better, not to halt the democratic process.
The goal of "fighting climate change" is to assure that we can have a decent life quality in the future. If you become violent to reach this idea, then you're going against the main principle you're fighting for, as you will ruin the life of some people at random. People like you are completely delusionnal. You simply like to find any movement there is to fulfill your thirst for violence.
@@inframatic Violence against the institution. America fought with violence. Rome fought with violence. Every revolution in history has been with an axe to your face, not a friendly chit chat.
@@ForcoyYes, by restricting your attention to revolutions, you can certainly make that statement. Of course, by doing so, you exclude a whole lot of relevant things, such as most things that have ever gotten done in history. Also, the American revolution created a new imperialist power that continued slavery decades after Britain had made it illegal, and Rome was literally never a model of ethics, so your argument could use a little work.
Violence is never justified. Those of us in the valiant climate crisis movement MUST always remain peaceful even if we lose to these violence-addicted anti-environment evil forces.
Yeah but the point is you then build layers. Likewise, the point of the wall is its largely psychological: ramming a wall goes against every instinct of a driver
If I remember well in england the protests and actions used to be radical, effective, and very inventive (the squat movement, ecologic protests in the 90's, etc ...). Occupy, sabotage, and communes are the way to go for perpetuating and building real counter-capitalist actions and movements
Germany is discussing new regulations regarding envorinmentally friendly heating systems, and they want to make excemptions for people over 80 years. I guess if their heating systems are not environmentally friendly, that's okay because they won't live to see the consequences anyway. Or they are assuming that those will die soon anyway, leaving the problem for the next generation uuuuh owner...
French environmental protests, right ? How about the French farmers ? They want to use more pesticides. "French farmers drove hundreds of tractors into Paris to protest against pesticide restrictions and other environmental regulations." February, 2023.
Yes because of the unrealistic expectations of neoliberal capitalism and infinite growth. Farmers need to destroy the earth they farm on just to make a living insteaf of farming sustainably respecting the nature around it and living in symbiosis with it. Luckily things are changing and pesticides are a thing of the past no need to hang on. Protest against the real cause not the symptom.
We need some of this agitation on our side of the pond. Every time political power shifts in the U.S. either we backpedal on climate legislation, or at best, we run in place with no forward progress on climate change mitigation legislation. We produce, by far, the highest per capita greenhouse gas emissions so we can't afford to be on the sidelines.
Very true. Except for Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Tobago, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Canada, Australia and Luxembourg (admittedly, the last two were quite close in 2019, the last year for which the World Bank has data). You could just say that the USA is among the highest per capita emitters and be completely correct without materially altering your point. Why say something that is false, or worse, not even do your research?
The US is a flawed democracy with only two parties and a president that has too much power. And corporations have too much power through their lobbyists and donations to presidents/political parties. In most democratic countries you have several parties collaborating to create a government, and they have to compromise to keep their coalition.
@@jonahscher-zagier8196 its weird because when you adjust for things such as exporting of waste, importing of manufacturing goods. The us is still far higher then majority of the world only really china is equal and their population is triple.
And what has the French protests accomplished in the past 20 years? NOTHING. Even in places where the government has backed down due to protests a couple of years later they simply do it anyway. Look at pensions in France. It used to be that people retired at almost 100% pay after 30 years. Now it's 42, sorry 44, years of work to and another 5 year to get a full pension that is only 50% pay. So some 25 year old in Paris now has to look at working until they are 74 and still have to work because the pension will not pay for his living expenses.
The goal of "fighting climate change" is to assure that we can have a decent life quality in the future. If you become violent to reach this idea, then you're going against the main principle you're fighting for, as you will ruin the life of some people at random. People like you are completely delusionnal. You simply like to find any movement there is to fulfill your thirst for violence.
They are certainly more effective at getting attention and creating an active, lively demonstration atmosphere. About the actual results, lets see. The French government is not the most progressive when it comes to carbon reduction, electrification, etc.
Looks like colossal waste of energy for a measure that is designed to save the pension plan. Appears that this issue is touch paper for every grievance built up over years. Destroying private and public property including expensive agricultural equipment isn't justifiable. Crush the farmer in the name of social justice. Really?
People wont hear what your saying when your making peoples life difficult to get home or to work. The people you need to reach is the people that make this stuff but your not.
its not about climate change if you knew and took your infos at the basics level in the first place... Its just one factor but it was the age of retreat and many others things. Your welcome
Shhhh, people want to project their feelings about the most effective type of protest onto France. They cannot be inconvenienced by the opinions of actual French people.
Is the description even trying to be objective, though? "Why French people are simply better at protesting than the English"? Marine Le Pen could not have written a more French nationalist slogan, and this is supposed to be objective journalism. But then, it is definitely true that the French are simply better journalists than the British: le Monde certainly would have written a more objective video description.
So basically a bunch of people who aren’t commited to the cause such that they would get arrested vs another group who understand disruption and inconvenience to Society is fundamental to be understood n heard
An activist posing as a journalist, pretending to ask questions in order to guilt-shame his readers into more activism...how novel. Reminds me of 1930's leftists traveling to Russia to ask "Why is Russia so much more productive than the West?", or 1990's leftists going to China to ask "Why is China so much more productive than the West?"... 😂😂😂
The average wage in France is £10k higher than the U.K. They work 5 years less than the U.K. They work shorter hours than the U.K. while producing more output per person. They have better schools and hospitals and longer life expectancy. It's a better place to live than the U.K.
@@michaelrch Actual data / facts suggests your £10k fairy tale may not be true. Output per person like.... GDP per person? Again, UK higher. What do you mean by output?
@@michaelrch "trust" he says... buddy - it's based on DEBT. The economy is held afloat on a currency based on the country being in debt: meaning the more in debt it's people are made to be in, the higher the "value". But that debt has to be paid back. Now this should give you pause: HOW do you pay back a debt, when your currency depends on debt? And what happens when one's debts are defaulted... have fun with that.
The revolution has proven to the French that masses can change politics and send seemingly invincibility powerful people to the Guillotine. Many other countries lack that powerful experience, and therefore the feeling „yes, if we really want it, then we ordinary people can actually force the politicians to do what we want“.
Well, Britain also had that one time you chopped off a king's head. We took it one step further and chopped off many more people's heads.
As you say, very powerful people were brought down a feet or so, which is actually still empowering us and still in the nightmares of the powerful (this was obvious during the yellow vests protests).
The downside, is that in these situations (1793), it's not just the most powerful who get sent off to the chopping block, but many more people, some of which are totally innocent or not that high and mighty. And then you get that stick waved at you : "you're going down the Terror road", which is a powerful way to put down so-called "radicals".
@@bonhommierr1501 "Many people were brought down a feet".
Shouldn't you say... many people were brought down ... a head ?
(yes, this is the door, I see it...)
All countries have different situations.
If you do the same as in France in other countries, it may cause countless deaths...
As a french person I think it's quite easy and not so thoughtful to link our present actions to the revolution. How we behave now has more to do with our workers unions history from the XXth century.
It's not something we talk about when needing courage.
And please bear in mind that the revolution did not come from the working class, nor a national uprising. It came from (what is in great Britain called ) the new mone class, for money and status reasons.
@@bonhommierr1501 Well the US protested and had to fight a War for Its Independence so that also counts.
Radical and non-violent activists are not supposed to be opposed to each other, they are simply two different layers of the same struggle, in this case the climate struggle.
- Non-violent movements are necessary because they are the most likely to reach people and slowly change mentalities, they are able to gather more people and create a political bloc that penetrates the political sphere. This is what they need to specialise in: reaching people.
- Radical movements are necessary because they are a clear way to show, through blockades, disruptions, demonstrations and open fights, that a part of society is ready to openly threaten the stability and balance of power if they are not heard. Most of the time, their activists come from non-violent movements (which is another reason why they are needed). Another part of their work is to create news shockwaves that allow other activists to reach the mainstream media.
Activists do not have to work against each other, they actually have to work together to maximise the impact of their mobilisations. This is a basic rule of thumb for efficient communication in liberal democracies.
Yes! Thank you for this much needed reminder!
This is excellently put, thank you!
100% Agreed
I agree, French people are more obnoxious and destructive. This only proves one thing, Urban elites have the time and vanity to try and mess with everyone elses lives. Radicals have been causing mass death and horror since 1792, nothing to be looked up to.
exactly, i've been struggling to put this into words thank you for that paragraph (that im gonna steal and probs use later)
It's called working class consciousness
Yes but Climate activism" is a Trojan horse. The real protests in France art not about the climate. It's about the deconstruction of French principles, sovereignty, social System and the discrimination of the middle class and low class.
Isn't it ironic that all of these green energy policies are making energy costs prohibitively more expensive & disproportionately hurting the working class & most vulnerable in society the most.
But why would middle class activist toffs care about this with their privileged Waitrose/Guardian lifestyles?
You people are a sick joke.
No, that's marxist bs
“The people shouldn’t be afraid of the government. The government should be afraid of the people.”
Yeah, I see that working nicely 😂
People that say things like that either don't want to think about it or it's not capable of it.
It's just a wrong way of thinking and in practice
@@Stone_Orchids apply this thinking to how the American revolution played out and you might see it differently
non-violent civil disobedience changes nothing..that's what we've seen especially for the last three years before the corrupt world governments...so yes, French protesters are way more effective and Long Live the spirit of French Revolution ✊👏👏
It does, though
I think "non-violent civil disobedience" is what he was describing the french take as
@@nevreiha ???
Non-violent civil disobedience doesn't work unless there is the threat of force is non-violence doesn't work.
"Speak softly, but carry a big stick" is an effective form of protest. Just don't leave out the big stick!
And then people be suprised state use violence
As a French person, I can tell there are many projects such as the project in Castres in many other places, and people are raising their voices and walls against it, but mainstream media just don't care, and don't talk about it so I didn't know there was a such important protest in Castres.
Faut pas regarder la télé. Regarde plutôt le média ou médiapart.
@@sueyourself5413 c'est deja ce que je fais en réalité, mais de manière générale je n'en ai pas entendu parler plus que ça alors que je m'informe littéralement tous les jours
@@StelR_lovelife this is a real problem ! C'est un vrai problème . De même, j'essaye de m'informer assez souvent mais ce qu'il se passe c'est j'allume la radio ou je regarde médiapart et je vois que j'ai ENCORE raté un évènment auquel j'aurai vraiment voulu participer.
I also try and keep udpated on the regular but what seems to happen is I turn on the radio or watch mediapart and i've missed yet again another protest I really wanted to take part in !
@@stephanieshine2098 Pour ça ça peut être bien de regarder le programme proposé par les Soulèvements de la Terre justement, sur leur site ou sur les réseaux. Quand on va à une manif, il y a aussi des représentants d’autres collectifs qui viennent parler de leur lutte, ça peut aider à s’informer au passage. Et du 3 au 6 août il y a une grande réunion au Larzac, rassemblant beaucoup de collectifs français !
and what is frustrating is that in France we're not winning either! However I'm very proud of what we're doing and will keep intensifying. But yep talking strategy is tough, we need more books more training more debate more think tanks more expertise we need food for thought and spaces to think and talk
lol most people just needs to live decently.
How about real tanks and aks??
@@MattyRouter If the cops keep maiming us, you can bet on more home made weapons.
Dear Sarah, I’m doing a research on the most affective methods of climate action and non violent civil disobedience and disruption.
As I understood you are active in France? Could I connect to you to give more details about my research and possibly do an interview with you?
@@Mila3576mila yes you can, however I wonder how, since I do not wish to share an email address or other contact info here
I think the radical difference between the French and the British is that while the French have been raised on democratic values where the people have power, the English have been raised on the values of the monarchy, where the people obey without question.
The monarchy is just nationalism. Britain has a deeply rooted history with American neoliberalism. France being closer to socialized European countries was able to keep its political education while the west lost it.
France was a monarchy as well, before the revolution defeated it.
You do realise that Britain is not a monarchy rule and hasn't been for hundreds of years.
Everybody questions the monarchy.
We aren't raised on blind obedience.
@@Shuyin781 Britain abandoned the monarchy rule over a hundred years before the French.
@@matwatson7947 It's very true but not in the same way. The way the english abandonned the monarchy wasn't as steep as the french. There's literally not a single remain of nobility in France, the noble are just bourgeois right now. They either joined the rich people or got totally annihilated, literally. Noble title doesn't even exist anymore in France, they are not recognized by the state since the 1800s. Meanwhile the House of Lords still exist in England, even though it's not really only for noble but hereditary which is not exactly the same.
Big up the French
Climate activism" is a Trojan horse. The real protests in France art not about the climate. It's about the deconstruction of French principles, sovereignty, social System and the discrimination of the middle class and low class.
The French are what I like to call "professional protesters"
You mean PROtesters?
We should import French protestors to organize protests around the world.
Au bout d'un moment c'est insupportable...
Thank you! 😊
@Alexandre de Souza it was definitely a thing in the 18th century too, bring back some vintage French agitation.
People reaaaally need to understand that a non-disruptive protest will NEVER bare any fruits. Not even in dreams. Changes happen after confrontation. As long as you keep it non-distruptive, with these children chants as if you were in elementary school, you'll be treated like rain on a coat. Just need to wait and hop, it clears by itself.
Stop being afraid. The fight is miles greater than you little persona.
And it doesn't mean you have to be violent. But you have to disturb the statut-quo.
@@leSingeMajestueuxThe person who wrote the original comment appears to think otherwise.
@@jonahscher-zagier8196 Life is violent. It is by essence extremely challenging. Living in an ivy tower doesn't make it less true. Everything is cyclic, then as much as we hate it, we NEED/MUST fight to keep things our way. And this will never, ever happen with children chants and by blocking some roads. You don't need to do a full hardcore revolution as in the past (yet), but you need to do something that will remind people in power from who they are allowed to have said "power".
@@aschnt-983Just saying "this will never ever happen" does not make it true.
the French simultaneously inspire me and make me embarrassed of leftist activists in my country. we should all take some notes!
😂 they don't get anything accomplished tho
@@dillonblair6491 universal healthcare, paid vacation, paid maternity leave, paid sick leave, more worker's rights. All BY LAW.
@@dillonblair6491 meanwhile we spend more than double on healthcare per person and don't even have universal healthcare to show for it 🤡
@@ZentaBon
😂 yeah... none of that was accomplished by the rioters. Those policies were passed before most of these people were born
@@dillonblair6491 yes it was, the French don't rely on luck and politeness to get what they need. If they don't get what they need they will fight for it. We have enough worldly resources to end all issues. To end water shortages, to end all hunger, to end homelessness. And we just refuse. It's not as if the resources are not there.
If you’ve ever seen a French building site, you’ll know those guys on the road were working thirty times faster building that wall 😂😂
Comme in France and do a demonstration keyboard worker...
As a French citizen, I can only agree 😂
Wish you didn't have the teasers at the start of the video. It's pointless and just kind of ruins those parts when we get to it 😕
Because they dont accept bourgeoise demands without a fight
America is weird, we point to MLK Jr. As an example of how to do peaceful protest, forgetting that they did more disruptive stuff and was called all the same stuff anti-fa is called today. American leftists decry violent protest and just completely forget it's the only protest that ever works.
MLK's literal strategy was non-violence even in the face of outright violence from police and counterprotestors. Effective or not, ethical or otherwise, it's simply ahistorical to claim otherwise. He was called radical and disruptive because he was: non-violence is radical in societies that glorify violence-like yours and like mine-and one can disrupt the status quo without randomly hurting people.
Love the concrete wall concept.
Желаю французам отстоять свои права, а, возможно, и сместить Макрона. Молодцы❤французы! Так держать! Россия вас поддерживает!
Je souhaite aux Russes de lutter pour leurs droits et destituer PUTIN! 😁😅😂👌🐓
Japan is a great country when it comes to environmental laws and car industries
@@chourineur9250 Ха😂! Мы в России без тебя разберёмся кого на власть ставить, а кого снимать😅😆🤣
@@ЛадаЛосева-щ9й Désolé...j'comprend que dalle...je ne parle que l'ukrainien...😁😅😂🤣👍🐓
@@chourineur9250 это прекрасно! Значит ты не поймёшь, что я пошлю тебя на кудыкину гору, где растут помидоры!!! 😅😂🤣
Brilliant video! Great translating in France! ♥
Build walls. It's easy.
By the way, this protest was just about protecting nature and preventing a road to be built.
Imagine what happens when it's about the french's salary
Vive la France
Et pas n'importe laquelle, la France du général De Gaulle !
The japanese are smart with money
Non-violent or non-disruptive doesnt work. We have seen it for 20 years now. They keep looking for new petrol sources.
the japanese zen
Short answer, yes. Long answer yeeeeeeeess
Nope. These protestors didn't "win". 😂
those french sure are having fun.
I love France
Non violence protects the state. Support your local bail fund.
I don't think building a wall to block a road is an effective strategy, due to the sheer fact that it'll just make cars spend more times on the road
Its done to get attention from the media.
But it seems to be an obscure road with little traffic so it misses the point.
Thank you for this brilliant article Damien ✌️❤
Protests should be strategic not symbolic. Yes At the same, people do need to remember that protests are not actually a way of getting stuff done. They are a way of pressuring people in positions of power to do so. That means that protesters aren't the ones who have to make difficult decisions or compromises. The goal is to make democracy work better, not to halt the democratic process.
The British government wears red lace and ruby chokers right in our face because they think they know
Taking “Urban Heat Island” to the next level!
"treacherous, lamb-burning, work-shy peasants." James May admit French is better at protest.
3:53 you nailed it fam
"Revolution toppled thode people and replaced by the same type of people"
- soem dune book
Cmon UK it's time for a civil revolution
Japan money
Violence is the ultimate form of authority therefore yes, these protests are effective.
The goal of "fighting climate change" is to assure that we can have a decent life quality in the future. If you become violent to reach this idea, then you're going against the main principle you're fighting for, as you will ruin the life of some people at random.
People like you are completely delusionnal. You simply like to find any movement there is to fulfill your thirst for violence.
How? They haven't accomplished anything.... remember the yellow jacket riots? Yeah nobody does
i mean... they protest, for one thing
Violence is the solution, it always has been.
violence against the loser protesters?
@@inframatic Violence against the institution. America fought with violence. Rome fought with violence. Every revolution in history has been with an axe to your face, not a friendly chit chat.
@@ForcoyYes, by restricting your attention to revolutions, you can certainly make that statement. Of course, by doing so, you exclude a whole lot of relevant things, such as most things that have ever gotten done in history.
Also, the American revolution created a new imperialist power that continued slavery decades after Britain had made it illegal, and Rome was literally never a model of ethics, so your argument could use a little work.
Violence is never justified. Those of us in the valiant climate crisis movement MUST always remain peaceful even if we lose to these violence-addicted anti-environment evil forces.
Interesting to see reaction to this vs BLM.
J'adore les gros plans sur l'accordéon et les baguettes ! 😂
It doesn't take much to break down a non stabilized cinderblock wall, minus rebar a car bumper can knock one down.
Yeah but the point is you then build layers. Likewise, the point of the wall is its largely psychological: ramming a wall goes against every instinct of a driver
If I remember well in england the protests and actions used to be radical, effective, and very inventive (the squat movement, ecologic protests in the 90's, etc ...). Occupy, sabotage, and communes are the way to go for perpetuating and building real counter-capitalist actions and movements
My respect to the French... this is how you protest
Germany is discussing new regulations regarding envorinmentally friendly heating systems, and they want to make excemptions for people over 80 years. I guess if their heating systems are not environmentally friendly, that's okay because they won't live to see the consequences anyway. Or they are assuming that those will die soon anyway, leaving the problem for the next generation uuuuh owner...
No police, no problem
the two electric cars being stopped at 8:25
You should check up Saint soline
You showed videos about activists complaining about the age of retirement, not climate. I am talking about the wall on the highway.
The french dont protest, they revolt
French environmental protests, right ? How about the French farmers ? They want to use more pesticides. "French farmers drove hundreds of tractors into Paris to protest against pesticide restrictions and other environmental regulations." February, 2023.
Yes because of the unrealistic expectations of neoliberal capitalism and infinite growth. Farmers need to destroy the earth they farm on just to make a living insteaf of farming sustainably respecting the nature around it and living in symbiosis with it. Luckily things are changing and pesticides are a thing of the past no need to hang on. Protest against the real cause not the symptom.
We need some of this agitation on our side of the pond. Every time political power shifts in the U.S. either we backpedal on climate legislation, or at best, we run in place with no forward progress on climate change mitigation legislation. We produce, by far, the highest per capita greenhouse gas emissions so we can't afford to be on the sidelines.
Very true. Except for Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Tobago, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Canada, Australia and Luxembourg (admittedly, the last two were quite close in 2019, the last year for which the World Bank has data).
You could just say that the USA is among the highest per capita emitters and be completely correct without materially altering your point. Why say something that is false, or worse, not even do your research?
The US is a flawed democracy with only two parties and a president that has too much power. And corporations have too much power through their lobbyists and donations to presidents/political parties.
In most democratic countries you have several parties collaborating to create a government, and they have to compromise to keep their coalition.
@@jonahscher-zagier8196 its weird because when you adjust for things such as exporting of waste, importing of manufacturing goods. The us is still far higher then majority of the world only really china is equal and their population is triple.
And what has the French protests accomplished in the past 20 years? NOTHING. Even in places where the government has backed down due to protests a couple of years later they simply do it anyway. Look at pensions in France. It used to be that people retired at almost 100% pay after 30 years. Now it's 42, sorry 44, years of work to and another 5 year to get a full pension that is only 50% pay. So some 25 year old in Paris now has to look at working until they are 74 and still have to work because the pension will not pay for his living expenses.
Eat the Rich!
environmental laws of Japan
France has had confrontational protest tatics since forever, i guessing the many revolutions is the biggest factor.
They are heroes. They fight for future generations!
The goal of "fighting climate change" is to assure that we can have a decent life quality in the future. If you become violent to reach this idea, then you're going against the main principle you're fighting for, as you will ruin the life of some people at random.
People like you are completely delusionnal. You simply like to find any movement there is to fulfill your thirst for violence.
Wow, the zombie of Vice Media bit the Guardian's environmental reporting and we're all dumber for it
YOU PEOPLE ARE A LITTLE BIT TO LATE. TALK ABOUT NOT TAKING HINT.
Getting more radical is the only way to force change. And force it we must.
japanese economy
@@angelachanelhuang1651 what?
“better” is a matter of perspective
They are certainly more effective at getting attention and creating an active, lively demonstration atmosphere.
About the actual results, lets see. The French government is not the most progressive when it comes to carbon reduction, electrification, etc.
Of course the French are better at most things-protesting in particular!
At least we have our modesty lol who am i kidding
car companies do whatever they want
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Some people blessings are on another planet
zen with Japan
Looks like colossal waste of energy for a measure that is designed to save the pension plan. Appears that this issue is touch paper for every grievance built up over years. Destroying private and public property including expensive agricultural equipment isn't justifiable. Crush the farmer in the name of social justice. Really?
Japan is rich
I trust the guardian cos they wear flat caps
See the cop city articles from the intercept and tell me the French are more effective. I’d say it’s at least a pretty even tie. 😂
Japan economy
@@angelachanelhuang1651 Hmm?
Non.
Where's Guy Fawkes??
Acolytes of Thanos.
People wont hear what your saying when your making peoples life difficult to get home or to work.
The people you need to reach is the people that make this stuff but your not.
We just have a few more centuries of practice.
nice jungle music in the background :)
Weve been doing this since the French Revolution.
- Jacques .......
I dunno his surname what do you expect?
I love the French 🇫🇷 🇫🇷 🇫🇷
Liberals with 5 jackets on
What would do it is international boycotts of say iphone from launch day for two weeks. Stratigic boycotts that will hit the stock price.
Get the liquid manure truck from the farmer and then unleash the fire...
If violence has not solved your problem, to need to use more of it
Anarchists stemming from 1789 revolution!
zen
Earmark the money from the pension changes for addressing climate change.
in UK, you have some efficient trajet for more efficient action, you can fill thé manhole of sewer which went to rivers
PROJECT MON PETIT CHOU
its not about climate change if you knew and took your infos at the basics level in the first place...
Its just one factor but it was the age of retreat and many others things. Your welcome
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we are not
from a french guy
Shhhh, people want to project their feelings about the most effective type of protest onto France. They cannot be inconvenienced by the opinions of actual French people.
Whats sustainable about keish
RADIATION GLOW IN THE DARK GREEN
Is the description even trying to be objective, though? "Why French people are simply better at protesting than the English"? Marine Le Pen could not have written a more French nationalist slogan, and this is supposed to be objective journalism. But then, it is definitely true that the French are simply better journalists than the British: le Monde certainly would have written a more objective video description.
Climate??? F-cking climate, really, whith all that is going on?
So basically a bunch of people who aren’t commited to the cause such that they would get arrested vs another group who understand disruption and inconvenience to Society is fundamental to be understood n heard
A 69 nice
😂😂😂😂 Boy oh boy
er no this kind of terrorism is NOT WELCOME
I hope they lose
An activist posing as a journalist, pretending to ask questions in order to guilt-shame his readers into more activism...how novel. Reminds me of 1930's leftists traveling to Russia to ask "Why is Russia so much more productive than the West?", or 1990's leftists going to China to ask "Why is China so much more productive than the West?"... 😂😂😂
barbarianism
"Better"? They strike themselves into higher unemployment. Especially for the young.
The average wage in France is £10k higher than the U.K.
They work 5 years less than the U.K.
They work shorter hours than the U.K. while producing more output per person.
They have better schools and hospitals and longer life expectancy.
It's a better place to live than the U.K.
@@michaelrch Actual data / facts suggests your £10k fairy tale may not be true.
Output per person like.... GDP per person? Again, UK higher. What do you mean by output?
@@michaelrch and what is that money backed on? Gold? No. Silver? No. Debt... now let's let it sink in.
@@The_Phoenix_Saga
"Now let that sink in" is not actually scaring me. All money is based on trust. It's just how money works.
@@michaelrch "trust" he says... buddy - it's based on DEBT. The economy is held afloat on a currency based on the country being in debt: meaning the more in debt it's people are made to be in, the higher the "value". But that debt has to be paid back.
Now this should give you pause: HOW do you pay back a debt, when your currency depends on debt? And what happens when one's debts are defaulted... have fun with that.
The guardian no thanks bye
japanese got put in an image of being evil. sucks
The french hate working 😂
being exploited*
That's a stereotype
The average French worker is more productive than the average U.K. worker.
And they earn £10k more.
Slavish british mentality
they just don't accept to be slaves, unlike you.