Radioactive Fallout in White Sands?...Not Quite.
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- Опубліковано 30 лис 2024
- After the total solar eclipse in Texas I went to explore White Sands National Park. The Alamogordo area where White Sands is located was downwind to the Trinity test...the first atomic bomb. I didn't find evidence of fallout but maybe I wasn't looking in the right places.
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I live in Alamogordo, White Sands is awesome. Before I moved here, I visited 7 times. Yes the Space History Museum is very good and cool. I go there early every morning with my dog and do a walk and ball chase. Great views, usually a breeze and some friendly people who walk up there also. Also, the memorial to the astronauts who passed during their endeavors is very nice as is Hams burial site. Sunspot is also very cool as is Cloudcroft. Never forget the VLA isn't very far away either. I drive past the big Pistachio nearly everyday.
As to the downwinders, there are some left and their are children and grandchildren with higher rates of cancer than would be expected. Part of the issue? Manhattan Project leaders did not inform people living nearby or downwind about the test or potential exposure to fallout.
What cancers are covered under Downwinders?
Downwinders
Leukemia, but NOT chronic lymphocytic leukemia.
Multiple myeloma.
Primary cancer of the pharynx.
Lymphomas, other than Hodgkin's disease.
Primary cancer of the small intestine.
Primary cancer of the salivary gland.
Primary cancer of the brain.
Primary cancer of the stomach.
Not just White Sands, but from Nevada test sites also. Nevada, Utah, Washington, Idaho, and New Mexico. A good read: abcnews.go.com/US/new-mexico-downwinders-fight-aid-after-manhattan-project/story?id=104538100
I watched the video in that link and the guy saying that the Trinity test was worse than Chernobyl is trying to confuse people. Trinity wasn't anywhere close to what happened at Chernobyl.
@@RadioactiveDrew That's only one persons opinion, get a clue. Dr's have seen the realissues.
I recently bought a sample of Trinitite, it's not even as hot as a vintage watch.
I highly doubt there's anything from the blast effecting anyone at this point. It won't be long before you need specialized equipment to identify Trinitite.
Thanks Drew! Beautiful time lapse of the moon set and it's cool to see the white dunes and your dog enjoying them!
Glad you enjoyed it.
2:13 got to love seeing a fighter with its afterburner lit when its dark outside. Can't mistake an F-16 silhouette.
3:27 such a beautiful view.
10:30 oh man, free pistachio samples......
10:48 oohh mountain bikes.
Spent a few years stationed at Holloman.
Trinity site to the north, did survival training there on WSMR as well as many field exercises on that land from Las Cruses up to Trinity. Gypsum and be a pain and beautiful hiking through.
I grew up on a boat in Boca Chica Bay, Key West, Florida.
Incidentally right next to the Boca Chica Naval Air Station.
When the water is calm, sound travels really well, and quite far.
I just went to an antique store and I managed to find a clock and two aircraft dials with radium paint. One of the dials gets over 50 microsieverts an hour with my Radiacode 103
Some of those aircraft gauges can be very spicy.
What an absolutely adorable baby girl you have! I bet your doggy loves her. My dog would sit outside my son's bedroom during naptime and then let us know when he was awake.
Incredible photography, man.
My daughter is pretty funny. She has my stubbornness times 10. Our dog is the fun police…anytime fun happens he needs to stop it.
That lake is apparently polluted with insane levels of PFAS.
That’s what I’ve seen as well. I saw signage that says it’s a waste evaporation pond for the base.
How did that happen?
@@MrErichonda30 it’s a settling pond for waste water from the Air Force Base.
Yep, all the waste runoff from the base goes into that pond.
Of course you found a huge stack of Fiesta Ware. Another great video on your travels. I get mixed reactions from Antique Store staff when I use my Geiger counters. I always love a chance to meet people and educate them a bit on radiation. Well done sir.
Thanks.
The sunspot observatory is also worth visiting in Alamogordo area.
I’ll have to remember to check it out next time I’m in the area.
that is really my kind of antique shop full of all the stuff I love. I have taken my geiger counter or rather one of my geiger counters into local antique shops and found fiesta ware that I wanted to use as a source. I let people think it was just a radio I was listening to. That orange glaze will start clicking five or six Miller wrenches an hour and is very handy to have around. Are used to do demonstration's at our volunteer fire departments open house for the kids that would come through. Great video thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it.
Enjoyed you video and time lapsed photography. Looked like a neat antique shop. Thank you so much for sharing.
No problem...glad you enjoyed it.
White Sands is one of my favorite places in New Mexico. It's about a half a days drive from where I live in West Texas. Did you check out the rocket museum while you were there? There's a missile range across from white sands and pretty much all the way to where you go over the Organ Mountains towards Las Cruces.
I haven’t explored that museum yet. I’ll have to check it out next time I’m down there.
@@RadioactiveDrew You need to put it on your list for next time for sure. It's located about halfway up the local mountain. We played a gig there one time and the view of the city from there is spectacular. Besides that, where else are you going to be able to stand next to a rocket engine that's just standing outside in front of the building?
A patreon of yours suggested your channel today. Looks like an interesting place. Any place with a jet is icing. Thanks for posting. I want to check out more of your videos.
Hope you enjoy the rest of the content.
Always good content.
I could sit out in the desert and listen to those planes all night long…
Same here. It was a pretty cool location to check out.
When I was 4-5 years old, while my father was on tour in Vietnam, my mom, sister, and I lived in Tampa in a development off of the end of the MacDill Air Force Base. So it was planes 24/7/365 coming over my house. It was awesome and why I love airplanes to this day.
I ate off salmon fiestaware my whole life. After my mom died I grabbed a plate and gave it a reading, it blew my mind. My whole life.
You could eat off them your whole life with no problems. So many people have been using radioactive plates since the 1930’s.
Hi Drew...is your dog a blue heeler? Such great dogs, my daughter has one.
A really good friend of mine purchased a radiacode 103 for me to use to be able to find contamination in various areas . I've watched many of your videos and if you have any advice with the radiacode that I should know I would be very grateful
Yes, he’s a Blue Healer. They can be great dogs…unfortunately ours likes to fight other dogs. As far as tips for the 103…it’s pretty easy to use. I use it everyday so I don’t really think of it hard to use. It’s pretty straightforward in its operation.
Wow. What beautiful cinematography! Could you check out the area around St. George, Utah? - "East, they (the atomic clouds) go over St. George, which always gets plastered." - Lewis Strauss, Chairman, Atomic Energy Commission, 1953. Thank you, Drew.
I’ve been through that area a bunch over the years. I’m planning on doing a video about the history of fallout in the St George. I have some really cool locations picked out.
@@RadioactiveDrew That will be fascinating!
Aw man, we drove right by pistachioland! We shoulda stopped!
There’s always next time.
Visited the La Vita mine last week, just admired from outside without getting too close to the portal. Wish i had a counter, but don’t have one yet (to be done!), but cool to see that mine and the stuff still there from their work.
Thanks Drew! My idea of a perfect vacation would be hanging with you for 2 weeks on your adventures!!
Glad I seem so entertaining. I’m sure some people would be very interested in some of my adventures. One of these days I would like to do a meet up.
@@RadioactiveDrew That would be cool!
Photography, timelapse, slow motion! Beautiful! Nice dog btw! 😉
Thanks.
10:37 The Swastika was the yearbook of my Alma Mater, New Mexico State University. It was named for an Indian (Native American) symbol for good luck and prosperity, and pre-dates Hitler and the Nazi party by many years. The Indian symbol has the cross hatches in the opposite direction of the more infamous one. Imagine my shock, as a ten year old, finding the Swastika in my grandfather's book case! Especially since he was Jewish 😂
lol as someone who still goes to the Alamogordo branch of NMSU, I can’t wait to show this to some of my friends from class. Maybe they’ll already know but I sure didn’t.
Drew! Yep, great b-roll shots there. Glad you had some fun out there.
I really like you and your channel. Learn loads! Thank you.
I'm glad you take something away from these videos.
Awesome finds , it’s always a treat when you post a new video!
Thanks.
yes Drew you're right about the snow reflecting the sun light up and sun burning you. I have seen original color photographs from the German army in World War II of their mountain troops with bright red faces from that very thing. I got the feeling that they enjoyed showing it off to show that they were mountaineers.
Been waiting on a new video to drop since the eclipse! Always enjoy the content and one of my favorite YT channels ...
The weekend after the eclipse, I hit one of the antique shops in Alamogordo... found me a stack of thorium glass plates.
Great video, your videos always have great content. The moon and that sunset were beautiful. Also the dunes.
Thanks. That timelapse shot worked out pretty good.
God, your shots are gorgeous. Your videos are top notch bro
Thanks for the nice compliments.
Awesome trip! I'm definitely adding White Sands to my bucket list of places to see. I just got my Radiacode 102, and I wanted to explore, but don't live near much in the way of radiation in the wild. SF bay area, I wanted to check out old military installations, maybe even Mare Island. Really curious what might be unseen! 👀
If you’re in the area for Trinity I would suggest checking out White Sands. Also, SF has radioactive tiles on the front of some of the older buildings. Look for orange and red colors. Plus antique shops are great places to look. I’ve heard Hunters Point has had some contamination problems and even parts of Treasure Island.
@RadioactiveDrew Oh right, I had heard of Hunters Point! Thanks for the tip. 🙌
@Slimpawws no problem.
I love White Sands !
Its such a cool place to visit.
Pentax 6x7 Excellent choice of Camera :D
Its a pretty cool camera. I've mainly been using it as a prop in shooting certain timelapse sequences. I have yet to run some film through it. When I got the camera all the light seals were toast. I removed them but haven't replaced them yet.
Hey I am living in Alamogordo at the moment I didn't know that about the free camping out there thanks I'm definitely going to be getting out there for the meteor shower coming up. Hope you had a safe trip. And thanks again.
No problem...hopefully the camping area is open all the time.
My radiacode just arrived today from Cyprus and I discovered my megalodon tooth in our living-room is radioactive enough to make it alarm. Prior to this device I only have meters from the 1960s so they weren't sensitive enough anymore to alert me to that. Of course my check source from the 1950s made it alarm from several inches away. Will have to read up on spectrograms to learn how I can identify what the heck it is inside the check source.
Thanks for sharing.
No problem, glad you enjoyed it.
oh wow didn't know about Uravan CO now i do thank you Drew :)
Its a sad story how the fear of radiation destroyed so much history.
the first bomb actually was closer to san antonio , there's a green house behind a tree, that's the road and they open it sometimes. I wonder if you would find some radiation there.
Awesome that you came to nm! I live in albuquerque and was thinking of going to white sands missile range sometime! :)
I always look forward to your videos!
Always nice to hear.
Great Video! Always look forward to your videos.... I'm from Wisconsin and Ironically I work around Xray equipment and MR machines that have radioactive sources. I have a radiation detector and was wondering if you knew of anything interesting in Wisconsin (Radioactive?)
Nothing yet. But who knows, there might be something out there.
Living a dream for some sir 🙏🏼♾️. Great content
I feel very fortunate to be able to explore these areas.
3:27 amazing 😍
Thanks.
Hell yeah another fellow pistachio ice cream enjoyer.
Pistachioland is really the only place I get it.
Do you have any "videos" on how to start this hobby and how to be safe doing it?
Not yet...but I need to make one.
I've also done radiation maps on the roads all around WSMR with my Radiacode and Raysid and there's more radiation west of ground zero along I-25 between Socorro and Truth or Consequences from I assume uranium in the ground... not so much along highway 380 north of ground zero.
A new drew video, Oh it’s going to be a good day.
Love your videos!
Thanks.
Incredible video!
Thanks.
Why did they really cancel the Trinity Site open house?
Good question. I don’t know the real answer but I’m sure people in charge would blame some type of budget BS. I heard someone over at Los Alamos say they didn’t want to deal with the increase in people because of the Oppenheimer film. Maybe if they had it open more than two days out of the year it would relieve some of that pressure.
Shame they canceled the open house this year
Yeah, I was disappointed. I met so many fans last year at the open house. Everyone was very nice.
2:20 Looks like an F-16.
That's what I was thinking.
Siancetific vid of a boy and his dog
From what camera was the viewfinder
A Pentax 6x7 medium format camera.
@@RadioactiveDrew Thanks !
So the Mi Vida mine will contaminate you but the McCormick mine won't?
Yep. The workings of the McCormick is different from the MiVida. There might be lower areas in the McCormick that have really high radon as well. I found another mine out near these ones that has the same contamination problem as the MiVida.
You have an Australian dog!
I do. A Blue Heeler named Loki.
@@RadioactiveDrew very cool! My Koolie collie named Twiggy says hello Loki 👋
I think putting a comment saying the EPA destroyed the town is a little dishonest. The mine closed, the town people left and so the EPA did a cleanup. Presumably them "closing" the town would have some sort of local vote to get through first.
It was the EPA and the Colorado Health Department that destroyed the town. There was no vote...they just decided to do it. The people that use to live there were in the process of making parts of the town a museum when the buildings were burnt down.
Nicely Camper car.
Love it 🙂
Thanks.
Love your videos so much, Drew 😊😊 the filming, the music, the subject matter. Perfect.
I’m glad you enjoy them. A decent amount of time goes into looking for the right music to go with the shots.
We spoke before about the music in your videos as I picked out The American Dollar on one of your videos. I'm sure I heard Tony Anderson on this one? Love his music. Check out The Echelon Effect too. He's from over here in the UK but sure he either lives or spends a lot of time in The States.
@@RadioactiveDrew
@halcyondaystunes yeah I’ve used The American Dollar in the past. I let them use some of my timelapse videos for some live shows in the past. In return they let me use their music. I think I’ve heard some of Echelon Effect. I’ll have to do a search and see if it sounds familiar.
GREAT VIDEO HOPE TO SEE MORE!!!
Frank Herbert's Dune Books ?!
It is Gypsum, not sand. There are mines near by.
You’re right. I was mistaken calling it sand.
Gypsum is a mineral, sand is defined by the particle size and can be made of any mineral.
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Like when you say it cool even with all the people around. Camera scans around shows four cars one person miles away and a vast dune landscape for as far as one can see. Definitely not the beach in Florida.