Should You Believe CPU Marketing? - Process Nodes Explained
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so basically he is saying that it does not matter because AMD is doing it, but let Intel do it and he will do a party celebrating how Intel is amazing. This guy is biased and he is paid by intel.
No one said it didn't matter. It's really really important to listen to the words in the video. As stated in the video, a process node worth of increased density results in roughly double the performance.
That sounds pretty important.
Intel is a valued partner, but so is AMD and neither of them sponsored this video.
@@techquickie r/wooooosh
@@techquickie Its a joke. Y'all took it too seriously
Nice joke btw, a video that tells the truth is Intel biased, huh? I guess you meant to say that it should have been AMD biased.
@@techquickie yo techquicke if its this you in the video than you really need haircut and shave and which cpu would you buy and what gpu would you pair it with.
Linus is the kid that actually has his presentation prepared.
his quarantine beard makes him more like a man-child instead of a kid
But drops it and kicks it on its way down.
Lol
He doesn't though. He just reads it from the teleprompter on the go.
Makes it seem like it because of his years of experience
@HorizonSkip wanted to comment that lmao
0:18 subtitle "And why node". Didn't think we would notice, but we did
I remember building computers during the Intel Pentium two and three days and then AMD I have the K8 and it was a socketed chip Kind of like today
When Linus said to pay more attention to the "real world performance", I really hoped for an intel joke :/
Good report about this. I know Intel’s 14nm is on ++,+++,++,+++++++++++++ at this time. Their chips are holding their value. As an AMD fan I am staying Intel. This is because I need my machine to be reliable and Intel has been this for me.
Mentioning carbon nano tubes without Riley around just doesn't feel right.
Anytime somebody mentions them as a future solution my eyes glaze over.
Who is Riley
@@parthasarathym1882 bruh... he's the best thing that happened to LMG. Check out their Techlinked channel.
If this was a bait or troll then GGs.
I was waiting for it and it never came. Wanna file a class action lawsuit?
"CARBON NANO TUBEEEEES" Riley Murdock
I like that the ad before this video was an Intel ad saying what's inside matters.
The lady with the dog?
Xue Hia Piao Piao Bei Feng Xiao Xiao yep same!! XD
Well a kidney inside matters quite a lot. Intel should know about that rather than about money inside wallets though.
I did not get that add. But it does say Buy an Intel CPU at the top of the links associated with the video.
intel inside
"we asked Intel if lower nm matters"
Then we asked Chrystler if we should buy a Tesla
LoL
Seriously, how does no one else see the massive conflict of interest in where they got their information?
Leo did you actually watch the video before you made your accusation?
Intel not managing the 10nm yet doesnt mean the people there are stupid. It is really impressive how their engineers get such performance from this older architecture.
Uhm...Intel is actually more inclined to say nm doesn't matter.
Since Intel 10nm is equivalent to TSMC's 7nm (thus AMD's 7nm). In fact, Intel 10nm has slightly higher transistor density.
So Intel would be stupid if they said nm is the be all and end all or bragged about it.
This is also why AMD is not exactly modest when it comes to marketing their own version of 7nm.
“Smaller one is better”
That's what he said
lmao
Señor zeD *NOT*
are you trying to say to your pp to not feel bad? smh 🤔
""...""
Intel says node size isnt everything.... I imagine it would be very important if they had 7nm and AMD had only 10nm.
They also say benchmarks are out of fashion. Let's rewind a few years...
Node size as a bad measurement has been known throughout the industry for years. It's fine to shit on Intel and all but you could also say that it's TSMC being misleading by labeling performance-equivalent process nodes as "smaller". At the end of the day Intel is behind not because their current top process node has a bigger number attached but because it doesn't fucking work for desktop applications.
If Intel had 7nm and TSMC had 10nm then that would be a CRAZY difference, like more than half, due to how they measure nm differently.
it's always a same story. When Intel CPUs use less power than that's big deal, when they use more than it's what? That's ok and normal. When they are cooler then it's a big deal, when you need $200 cooler to get advertised speed then it's ok, nothing wrong with that. When they have smaller manufacturing process it was OMG, we are so advenced and better and now it's unimportant. And worst of it all - that's what consumers say.
I don't care too much about paid advertise like this one, big companies will always find someone who will sell their BS to the masses and Linus have to many mouths to feed to refuse money. But comment section is where I get stomach problems.
@@fexilsehn6445 Yeah but you can also look throughout history and see Intel is objectively far scummier as a company.
Not sure why people say this "AMD isn't your friend" thing, I mean we know that. They're a company lol It's just that Intel is also close to bottom-tier in that regard, I'd trust them about as much as I trust BP or big tobacco.
This comment was written on a 3770k, also. I'm no fanboy, just a history buff.
When are we going to start measuring performance by how much RGB we have in the system?
Soon
Soon we'll see companies marketing HDR RGB accessories. Man, the performance boost we'll get from that!!
I already do
i thought that was already how it works for gaming pcs?
Of course! Red means more power. Green for more efficiency. And blue lowest the temperatures.
"Does transistor size matter?"
*talks to intel about it*
HMMMMM....
"You just need more pluses"
*Intel replies in pluses*
A shit ton of companies like Apple, AMD Nvidia and other ARM manufacturers use TSMC and none of em advertised 7nm or whatever as inherent as AMD.
Also, before the stagnation with 10nm, Intel were the ones dropping transistor size every year or two. It's best to listen to them and TSMC than companies that don't make transistors themselves like AMD or the companies I mentioned earlier.
@Raver XY you reread it. He basically said it's better to trust intel or tsmc rather than amd when amd doesn't make their own chips
@@cunnyman you are right I threw my 3600 ryzen for a core i7
This video feels like intel's last solution because they can't get into 7nm
no, Intel's 10nm = 7nm of the rest of the industry. but I think we will never get mainstream 10nm they're way behind schedule
"It's always more important to pay attention to the real world performance that you'll see in game an applications that you actually use". Lol, even AMD is winning
@@rjuez00 By the time Intel gets to 10 nm, flying cars are going to be a thing
Damage control marketing plan is in full swing.
This has been a thing for years.. It's not a thing made by Intel.. It was there when AMD was doing shit.
I've worked on one of the 7nm nodes while it was in development. Fins were 8nm wide, fin pitch was 26nm, diffusion/poly layers were over 20x50nm and if transistors were not in an array they had to skip at least 3-4 fins. I think the only thing at 7nm was some spacing between layers...
celeron800 Doesn’t mean they are still meaningful improvements over previous generations though.
Just disassemble ones, put under electon scope, measure the distance, thats all
Intel: Don't talk about benchmarks, transistor size doesn't matter, Apple still loves me... I need help!
Apple just abandoned Intel too lol
Only one of those is still true, transistor size really doesn't matter to normal people. How fast will it be and how much will I need to spend on cooling/my power supply are far more important.
As some system integrators move to using ARM for their devices, the last question of will it actually run all the things I need it to run will also become more and more important too.
The only thing Intel CPUs are good for is gaming if you have a streaming PC with an AMD chip next to it
@@acdbrn2000 TSMC has left the chat
Untermensch “intel wins in streaming and gaming” sooooo... have you been under a rock or what? Not only AMD outperforms intel in streaming and workstation applications but its almost as fast as intel 10th gen when it comes to gaming while costing much less.
If Intel had 7nm and AMD 10nm they'd be screaming out loud how important it's the fabrication node, as they don't they compare a 90watts gpu to a 65watts GPU and say it's a cpu comparation
No shit they would, that would be a HUGE difference. Intels 10nm is around the same size transistor packages as TSMCs 7nm, imagine if Intel was on 7 and TSMC on 10
@@BrumBrumBryn by the time Intel reaches 7nm AMD would be on 4nm+ .
@@BrumBrumBryn Its closer to TSMC's 8nm process.
Remember when Intel fanboys were shitting on Bulldozer? I know I was one of those.
Now, Intel doesn't seem to like a bit of shit on their party lol.
I'm now using Ryzen though, it's a cheap 3200g but for my needs is more than enough, and it feels good seeing AMD come back and push Intel this hard.
Nvidia's node is behind AMD yet Nvida continues to demolish them, I don't think node really matters
The whole nm measurement is a hot mess between Samsung, TSMC, and Intel. One will claim 5nm, another 7nm +, and another 10nm etc.
As so correctly stated, you just have to go with performance and architecture as ultimately that is what it is all about.
you have to keep in mind these are all approximations because the transistor gates arent a thing anymore, and that all of their architectures are different so its unsurprising that their approximation processes are different. we should honestly just ignore them and directly look at ipc and perfomance differences
@@manaspradhan8041 What's ipc?
@@Young_Dab i think it is instructions per cycle, but why not just google it when you want to know something?
@@disinque6961 Cause I'm already on the UA-cam app. And interested in knowing other people's knowledge of something
Well, we need a way to compare process nodes without architecture being a consideration. This is the purpose of the nm number... we need an industry standard for it.
Linus: To learn more about process node size we reached out to intel...
Intel: 14NM+++++ MORE PLUSES IS MORE PERFORMANCE GUYS.
its ok bro typical amd fanboy with a 3600 at best
@buffalo wt it is shit cant even beat 8700k which is 3 years old
@@maderi well the Ryzen 5 3600 is ~$170 while the i7-8700k is ~$350. You can't compare those two you smurf
@@_koifishpond yeah is 170 3 years later again mupet
@@maderi You're literally comparing a 3-year-old Mercedes S class to a 2020 Honda civic. That's just stupid
talking node with intel employe
lol
Of course , for intel , cpu node marketing is lie now
Hmmm the words used exactly match Intel's marketing slides with "real world performance", "applications you actually use"
Almost as if he spoke to someone at Intel about this...
ಹ ಹ 😂
@@ChaimS yes but there is a difference between doing research and just regurgitating marketing material
Chaim S Right, people usually quote marketing materials verbatim after speaking to someone from the company...
is “real world performance” concept worse than marketing cell size? i actually think that vice versa
Of course Intel would say it doesn't matter. They can't keep up with AMD and TSMC. 😂🤣😂🤣
it doesnt in gaming...intel still the king and will be
Well Intel say it doesen't matter it is kinda true.
Linus even says that real world performance is more important and AMD is destroying Intel there.
A part of course if money dosen't matter and your into gaming or some other niche application.
Only talking for desktop. Server market is a more complex topic.
@Prem Koomr high core count doesn't work without high clock speeds
@@Jonas_Meyer 10th gen exist
@Jared Very few games utilize 8 or even 6 threads. If they do, you will be GPU bottlenecked. 4 threads is still more than enough in 2020.
This should've been put on "$h!t Manufacturers Say" instead of techquickie
edit: this was intended to be a joke, the main point of this video is just "processor architecture (XX nm) are defined differently among manufacturers thus you might not compare the figures or the numbers side by side"
Why?
@@broomer0 because they boast about their manufacturing processes? Though it's usually the media and the fanboys
*Valen* Well said
It wouldn't, because this is an ad...
@@n1tr0sys09 shut the f up AMD fanboy
PC enthusiasts: Less nanometres is good!
Intel, struggling to go below the 10nm threshold: Nah, it's just marketing BS, size does not matter THAT much!
Six and a half minutes of damage control.
Of literally the truth, it's amazing how much people get hurt by someone saying something that it is literally a fact
Uhm... Could you add TSMC engineer instead of intel?
Intel's 10nm is about on par with TSMC's 7nm, even if it's been garbage in practice. Why would it matter?
Pravdax M Cause TSMC has started producing 5nm nodes while intel is still stuck with 14nm++++++++++++++ cpus on the desktop side lol
@@void9092 It doesn't matter because this is a video about facts not about if Intel is better than TSMC
@@void9092 "oh shit better add 'on the desktop side' because I know 10nm is already in laptops and can't shit on them that way anymore"
Bruman ah yes. Intel is totally doing fine if you completely ignore the fact that they’re only now getting their 10nm chips in only some products in mid 2020 and TSMC was producing millions and millions of 7nm chips all the way back in 2018
BHuahahahaha, No thanks, i'll stick to my 7nm AMD that sips power
More CPU knowledge dropped by Intel Tech Tips...sorry, Linus Tech Tips...got confused for a second.
now it is 5nm!
Drinking game: Take a shot everytime Linus says "seven".
That's a lot of shots for 7 min lmao
where am i
_dies_
ua-cam.com/video/2skgGNk8rZk/v-deo.html
"We reached out to a company using a 7 year old process"
We've reached out to a market leader that is loosing ground and has a vested interest in dismissing any relevance of the topic we're discussing and didn't even take a moment to see if thier main competitor saw things any differently.
NeutralAtJSP Lmao!
Yep. Sponsored by Intel says it all. And do not believe it when Linus says "real world performance". That is Intel's BS marketing rubbish. Shame on you Linus. Check this video out for more info: ua-cam.com/video/Gj5_uc4ScNE/v-deo.html
@@grizzly6699 Shut the f up AMD fanboy
@@ahsanqureshi786 you're so mad amd is just better
Ok but missed opportunity to have Riley come and say carbon nanotubes at the end
Agreed
Apple CPU doesn't lie
can you do a techquickie about AMD/Intel vs ARM and etc processors
ಅಲ್ವಾ ? Apple ಸಹ ಮುಂದೆ ARM ಬಲಸತ್ತೆ , ಆದ್ದರಿಂದ ಒಳ್ಳೆ ಹೋಲಿಕೆ ವಿಡಿಯೋ ಅಗತೆ 👌
x86 vs arm
lookup CISC (x86) vs RISC (ARM)
I see Intel’s decided to start sending checks again.
I already desubbed the main account as there were obvious but not marked sponsored vids by intel.
I am afraid I might unsub to this channel too.
I feel like his whole content quality goes down the drain currently.
Check out the following video about Intel's BS marketing in relation to this: ua-cam.com/video/Gj5_uc4ScNE/v-deo.html
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
my exact thought..
Apple CPU doesn't lie
Gotta love subtle intel promotion with their "real world performance" bull...
A very "tactful" footnote about "real world" benchmarking Linus. Gotta keep 'em happy I know. 😉
correction at 3:32 increasing surface area of the gate around the channel in FinFET was not to allow more electrons to pass through the channel but to combat short-channel effects and carrier leakage i.e. clamping down on the channel to turn it off when you want the device off. Without FinFET, at these sizes, the field effect would not be able to be controlled by the gate and would be Always-On instead of switching (on/off).
intel: we're not on the smallest advertised process node
also intel: process node numbers done matter
everyone else: you sure, as AMD are kicking your a$$ on a lower process node.
Breaking news! It's not AMD's 7/5nm! It's TSMC! AMD contribute nothing into getting into smaller fabrication!
Guess an Aymdiot fanboy detected!
@@AlfaPro1337 Salty blue tears much?
Lol I know why amd is ahead is becoz they use tsmc for fabrication while intel for some complicated reasons not doing.
@@AlfaPro1337 How do those Intel boots taste?
@@AlfaPro1337 and so what? Who stops Intel from selling their factories to some third-grade chipmaker and placing orders at TSMC as well?
Alternate timeline: Intel sponsored this video to explain why its smaller node is EVERYTHING.
Well, if you go and ask Intel if the number of nano meters matter, of course they'll say no.
All this video said is that the size isnt all that matters. Its exactly what Linus said at the end.
And dont put me off as an Intel fanboy to inflate your ego. Im typing this on a Ryzen Laptop
@@sgtmaggi I'm making a joke fun fact
I know it's intel that provided the information, and some insight is really useful and interesting, but a lot of o stuff u said and focused on are really based on intel marketing, if this is not a public sponsored intel video, please focus on the information about the process and not justifying the slow down of intel
missed opportunity to have Riley deliver the "CARBON NANOTUBES!!!!" line.
Apple CPU doesn't lie
"we reached out to people who work at intel for information on process nodes, when they've been on the same one for 6 years at this point. Surely this won't lead to biased answers saying that anything smaller than 14nm is a waste of time"
well the video didn't give those answers
but it didn't, fanboy. Neither AMD nor Intel will care how much you suck up to them
You can always check wikichip if you think this is biased. Also pcgamer did an article on why isn't intel's 10 nm bigger than AMD's 7nm or something like that.
"I commented before I watched the video and now look like an idiot."
The video literally never said that, moron.
lame attempt by Intel to divert attention from their competition, "the size isn't all the story hey look what intel has done..."
“CPU node size doesn’t matter”
“This video sponsored by Intel”
Lol
The video is not sponsored, and the video actually states how important is the process node
Thanks for axtually paying attention Ricardo. There's some obnoxiously toxic crap in this comments section.
@@techquickie True, everyone here thinks that Intel paid you to tell everyone that node size doesn't matter.
Techquickie oh toughen up Karen. You understood the point. I wasn’t toxic”
@@techquickie Still you are using obvious antiquated Intel marketing in the end segment, when it is obviously better to compare processor performance under certain workloads to gauge true CPU performance, regardless of "Real World" applications. Gotta make Intel happy somehow lol.
The message in the video, while technically true, leaves a bad taste to me. It points specifically to intel current weaknesess, and might be taken wrongly by the uneducated crowd
@Caleb P isn't the amd threadripper the best processor though?
@Caleb P Yeah I was also disappointed by the 5% less frame rates on AMD.
@Caleb P Umm no actually. Intel cpus are 5% maybe 10% better at gaming even in the best case scenario. And in scenario they are even slower than competing ryzen chips. But in either cases intel is the more expensive one by a significant margin.
Unless you want the absolute best performance and do nothing but gaming and money is no object to you, then sure go for intel.
Note : What I said is true for most cases. There are some exceptions where intel is actually the better option but they are quite rare.
I think we have wait for 10nm for intel to regain the gaming king title
Is this an Intel advert Linus ? LMAO
Moore Transistors is very Noyce.... I'll see myself out.
Moore's Law has actually been considered dead for a while in the Computer Engineering community. We need to move on from planer 2D lithography and focus on monolithic 3D lithography with better thermals even at a higher die size. EUV is also prohibitively expensive for any manufacturer that isn't TSMC- or GlobalFoundaries-level.
CNTFETs are pretty great though, but we need to have better package cooling especially with hybrid systems within packages. Kaby Lake G had an AMD graphics die within the "CPU" packaging connected with interconnects to the actual CPU die. I can't wait until ReRAM gets placed in an M3D configuration (as in ILV not TSV) on HPC or consumer chips. GAAFETs are also definitely a game-changer.
Whatever happens we get a FPS boost in gaming and that’s what I need.
AMD fanboys hitting that dislike button...
Intel fanboys seconding everything...
Me just wanting to upgrade from my 3820, but paying bills instead...
3:08 - If we're living in a simulation, then quantum tunneling is a clipping error.
Seems like a pretty serious bug though, devs pls fix
Isn't it more like data disappearing through the noise floor (at the other end of the system's dynamic range)?
No, it is the loss of some LSBs and not a clip at the maximum. The number of bits to describe a particle is fixed. The more that are allocated to storing accurate position the fewer can be used for the velocity. This is why when you multiply the two you get the same number of bits in the result no matter which you favor with more bits.
Still intel biased, amd and tsmc didnt say anything??
Engineers from TSMC and Global Foundries released a joint research paper exploring why we should be moving away from the current way of defining process nodes. I tried but I can't find it right now.
@@Anton-cv2ti And there is also wikichip
I wish you'd stop "reaching out to Intel" as it just makes the videos seem like adverts. No mention of AMD or ARM anywhere...
Watched for 5 minutes until o realized it was an ad.
I realized because Linus' hair was short and looked feminine, not the rugged wolf.
Imagine having your own ad on your video
'Carbon Nanoooo Tuuuuuuuuube" - Said Riley
Cultural comment. Bigsby would approve.
Thanks, had to look for that comment! :D
was expecting him to come in
@@SergioEduP yeah it's a shame that they didn't *insert* Riley in for "Carbon NanoooTuuuuuube"
It looks as a shill for Intel CPU, AMD is already in 7nm Process.
hahahahha
Intel paid for an ad that says that chip manufacturing process (14++++++++++nm) doesn't matter.
hahahahahahahaa
AMD 7nm FTW!!
Who cares that you bought an amd cpu and now try to deffend it as hard as you can against facts
@@eijmert its kinda hard to defend intel here considering the recently leaked marketing slides of intel deliberately pitting systems with different graphics options against eachother then saying intel is better, or supporting a benchmark that for 20 years has been skud in intels favour and that some how a 7% time reduction on increases score by 40%, considering the wording used here by Linus, its hard to seperate that fact, espescially when this video was essentially sponsored or at the very least heavily influenced by intel when Linus claims to be neutral for journalistic integrity then makes almost no mention of AMD despite the fact that they are very very quickly eating up market share and becoming very relavent, "real world performance" echoes to a tee the claims that intel claims but then fail to back up and independent reviewers consistently show intel only being ahead in gaming, he isnt trying to 'deffend' as this point, it sounds more so that ou might have doubts about your im assuming intel CPU, but thats not a reason to lash out.
Breaking news! It's not AMD's 7/5nm! It's TSMC! AMD contribute nothing into getting into smaller fabrication!
Guess an Aymdiot fanboy detected!
@@AlfaPro1337 we really gonna be pedantic about that? technically it would be TSMC 7nm finfet CPU dies with a 12nm I/O then used by AMD very very successfully
0:30 lmao.
"Does nm really matter"
"To find out we reached out to Intel"
14++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Back in my day, CPUs had just 5 transistors and that's the way we liked it.
SuperAtheist ...5? Holy shit u lucky. We could only afford 1, but it ran like a sumbitch at 1 Gazillion Hz. ....LOL.... :)
I wonder if you'd like your phone cpu to have 5 transistors
Luxury, you had transistors! We would have dreamed of transistors.
It is explained here:
ua-cam.com/video/ue7wM0QC5LE/v-deo.html
you had transistors? on my time all we had was a vacuum tube, and took the electricity of 10 homes to make the thing work for 10 minutes before it melted... and that's how we liked it!
Oh okay. The info is from Intel, who stuck in 14nm fabrication all of this decades. I believe, Linus, I believe.
Anderson Frans 5 years is not a decade. Intel has 10Nm (Ice Lake)
"real world performance", I'm smelling Intel marketing jargon here.....
You be right Mr. It is Intel marketing fluff. Check this video out for more info: ua-cam.com/video/Gj5_uc4ScNE/v-deo.html
well their marketing right about this time was pretty trash, yeah. But in the end, wouldnt you wanna buy the chips with the best performance?
This video pop up after Intel Marketing launch their New Real World Performance benchmarks,
Coincidence much ?
A video a bout Markeing lies ...right after Intel's partners slides of lies and deception exposed by AdoredTV - Linus should know better.
Speaking in behalf of Intel's loosing its race against AMD's 7nm:
"SIze dOeNSt MeAn ANytHInG"
what you want to say is TSMC 7 nm. AMD doesn't manufacturer chips.
We asked Intel for information. Intel: anything below 14nm is a lie
Marc Ianachi
Why would it be a lie? Intel has 10Nm (Ice Lake)
Hmm...This video just drop on the day of Intel benchmarking lie leaks.
linus also at the end talks about "real world performance" which is an intel marketing meme at this point.
and linus talks at first about he talked with intel before making this vid. coincidence? i think not
Big red flag:
Asking a company with a far inferior process node (Intel) to explain why process node is misinterpreted / misunderstood / overrated...
Sorry, Linus, but you should have asked independent experts instead.
You know you're early when video says it has 6 views
@@kiwiyt5423 same
Whean he first time said intel I knowed he sold his soul to devil
pedja nedeljkovic If you're going to type stupid remarks at least learn how to spell English first!
You know, the "Intel inside" sticker, isn't that important anymore...
We need new ones, like "AMD inside" and "ARM inside". 😉
Lucian Andries
That would be stealing Intel's patent.
AMD stickers already exist... ARM, though... not so much, but to be real, it's really hard to quantify and explain which ARM CPUs are better compared to the other ARM CPUs. It's like combining explaining Nvidia's Titan lineup with listing which Prizm models share parts with which Corolla models.
@@InfernosReaper If they only say AMD then there is NO problem but if they say AMD inside, Intel can sue them.
Why would you want ARM stickers? You don’t see “X86 Inside” stickers, do you?
4:36 10nm ~mid 2017
He he he
How can someone dislike the video that was uploaded 1 minute ago yet the video is 6 minutes and thirty-seven seconds
40 seconds in is the reason why
Probably an AMD fanboy
they took the _"hate-watch us"_ part at the end too seriously
_From intel....._ is enough
@@MickeyTech What should it be then? "From AMD" I guess......I don't see a 3700X having double the performance of a 10700K.
Intel: please buy our 14nm chips
*Hello random stranger on the internet! I hope you’re having an amazing day/night and safe from the Covid 19!*
*Hello random stranger on the internet! Stop begging for likes!*
GameGood / GG could you please tell me what part of the comment is me begging for likes?
We all know who really should’ve cried “CaRbOn NaNoTuBeS” in the video
This comment section has an extra chromosome.
Intel, The 14nm specialist. (I think Intel started the size war first... until 14nm...)
0:39
From Intel about Nanometer ?
I hope the Video will be Fair
Why indians are so obsessed with AMD ? Go to benchmarks softwares and compare intel 10 th gen processor to Ryzen 3000/ 4000 series and see the actual difference .
@@tdmguy8304 What should I see ?
AMD is way ahead of Intel at a TDP of 35 watt ..!
Believe it or not , I have seen Benchmark by multiple YT Channels . and The results are same
And if in any case , Intel performs SLIGHTLY better then also I'll choose AMD because I won't sacrifice battery Backup for those extra 3 FPS
Inb4 Linus complaining about fans calling him an Intel shill on the next WAN Show.
EDIT: Fucking called it! ua-cam.com/video/YcZfBeFmWOE/v-deo.html
When your so early you still see the 3 views 200 likes comments
intel engineers is al i needed to hear, peace out.
gotta love how the comments manages to devolve the topic to a fanboy dispute
UA-cam's the best
gpu nm anyone
Just watched a Linus commercial ads before this video😄
Duh, Intel is and has been estimating the size of their transistors, so is AMD, so pointing out that AMD *ALSO* doesn't technically have the correctly labeled size is kind of the pot calling the kettle black, no?
TSMC 7nm technology supports 8nm transistors also. Companies doesn't use 7nm sized transistor always in 7nm technology.
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I totally don't see an issue with LMG getting info from Intel, a company that is failing pitifully in the nanometer race, for their information, and expecting them to _not_ skew the information to favor Intel and not AMD. And yes, I know that's not what happened, I'm just pointing it out so others don't have to and to be funny.
5:38 that's the only clearly intel marketing language i did not like about the video
Yes Intel marketing language. I’m sick of it.
EVEN IF Intels 10nm is comparable to TSMCs 7nm, the fact they’re only just now getting their 10nm chips into some but not all products in mid 2020 and TSMC was producing millions and millions of 7nm chips back in 2018, is really fucking sad for Intel. There’s a reason why Apple is ditching Intel, and it’s because Intel has fallen years behind and they’re sick of it. RIP Intel. I won’t miss you.
What happens once we reach 1nm?
Are they gonna implode on themselves and go minus nm?
nano n 10−9
pico p 10−12
it will go pico
@@Diego-rp1ue No, we'll likely have to switch method of naming devices as going pico would be entirely unphysical. The size of an atom is on the order of 0.1 nm, so claiming a technology node of even that size would be ludicrous.
@@akeron1an thanks for the explanation. i only use the logic of measurement didnt think about phisically possible. But thanks again for bring that up.
"Sponsored by Intel"
Intel: using nm cannot be measure number of transistors today.
instead, we invented "+" measurement.
That was 100% an Intel messaging segment WITHOUT a proper disclaimer.
Finishing with the "Real World Performance" out of Intel's marketing slides was SO TRANSPARENT... sorry but this is so disappoitng.
ironic how you spoke with intel about this one
Linus: "Real world performance". This sounds like Intel marketing. Intel Inside. More like: Intel. Marketing Inside. Check this video for more on Intel's BS marketing fluff: ua-cam.com/video/Gj5_uc4ScNE/v-deo.html
The title should have been "CPU process node as fast as possible", I feel like that question in that title hasn't been answered.
Intel told him to say "size doesn't matter ".😅
I thought you had to state on the video if it was sponsored? Getting data from a company who's current greatest contribution to die size is the '++++++' suffix. And I'm actually an Intel fanboy, having used their processors in all my builds since 1993 (minus one 4 year stop with the Athlon 32).
Sponsored by Intel
i cant trust those who came from a company that were stuck on 14nm and 10nm for too long
Linus legit looks more like Luke everyday
Omg, Luke is secretly taking over Linus' body to get back in front of the camera...
He just needs to gain like 200 pounds.
I’m here because the LTT stream stopped working 😞
I can't stress enough on how important to me this video was on explaining to me the number of nanometers I am always hearing or seeing on looking up a cpu. Thank you so much!
In real life, you can go from the benchmarks instead.
@@kensmith5694 which pretty much follows the logic that smaller is better, usually.
AMD Fan: I buy AMD processors because they are cheaper and because they have a 7nm process
intel fan: I buy processors from intel because they have better performance in games and the 14 nm process doesn't matter how important performance is.
Me : F*ck it
last time I was this early was when Intel released a CPU and had no known security vulnerabilities yet
So you never turned up then 😉
@@willthomas7239 oof