I use Synology 6-bay systems for home and my business. I got my first back in 2013 and so far haven't had any of the units fail. For my own piece of mind, I retire them after 7 years of 24/7 use and just set my old units in a storage closet.
I could think of some use cases for them: 1)Donate them to a friend/family member that has no backup plans implemented, it would be better than nothing for them; 2)Use them to backup another NAS system just in case the in use NAS fails; 3)Use them for riskier things, like for external web access cases, that way if you open them up to outside the lan, it's limited exposure because it's an isolated NAS box with a mere copy of original files. An example would be put some documents, movies, pictures on the old NAS if you want outside access for yourself or friends/family. 4)Set one up at your parents, kids, whatever house as a backup that isn't in your house.
The best thing you can do for a NAS, is simply BUILD Your Own from scratch. Its not hard and the software is much better. You might have to learn some things, but hands down, nothing you buy from synology, qnap, etc is even close to what you can build.
Hello! I really enjoy your videos and appreciate the effort you put into them. I have a small request that could enhance the viewing experience for some of us. Would it be possible for you to read aloud the questions that appear on the screen before you answer them? This would be incredibly helpful for those of us who often listen to your videos without watching the screen. Thank you for considering this suggestion and for your wonderful videos!
Apologies for this. This was raised in the last video and *hands in the air* I completely forgot. The 3rd video in this series is always almost completed productions but I'll definitely try and get them added before it's published OR at least announce the Q at the start. Part 4 (which goes suuuuper out-there btw) will be better on this front. Apologies again man
Very much YES PLEASE! I often listen while working on other projects and was completely lost during this video and kept having to rewind the video to read the question… And on a side note… while I love the “IT Crowd” the transition/video clip lost its appeal after the 3rd question… 🙄
I have a Qnap NAS and another Dumb question, if the NAS has a hardware problem, will I lose my data? Or can I put the disks in a PC or a new NAS to recover them?
@@praetorxyn I don't know what you mean the Rack Stations have 10Gbit or 25Gbit. Yes the CPU is not new. BUT IT IS AN STORAGE not an Hypervisor vor VMs
@@mrcjay Dude, you responded to a copmlaint clearly about Synology's consumer grade NAS units complaining about them having shit hardware by screeching that their Enterprise Units were Enterprise grade and not cheap. It's a completely irrelevant deflection, as their ocmpetitors ALSO have enterprise grade equipment with 10 Gbps LAN and such, but their competitors' consumer grade equipment comes standard with 2.5 Gbps LAN among other things. Sorry if someone dared to criticize the brand you fanboy for.
This isn't actually a NAS question but more a storage question. I'm planning to implement a NAS for my media library. If SSD life expectation is based on write erase counts and I only want to permanently save my movies to the drive and never erase anything, will it last for decades. Currently my video collection is on SATA drives and the motors go bad every few years and if not caught in time I loose everything. And currently I have over 14 TBs of shows and movies.
SSDs do not last forever. The data stored on an SSD eventually degrades if it's not powered on. If you have one in storage for a decade, you might loose everything on it. Harddrives are still safer long-term cold storage than SSDs.
EDIT: My below question was answered thoroughly on the NASCompares website, article from 17 Sept 2021 titled "SSD Caching on a NAS? What is it and should you use it?" I recommend the article to anyone thinking of caching on their at-home NAS. -Regarding SSD cache drives, do you have any recommendations? Should people be looking to score a lightly used server grade SSD, like intel Optane or Micron, or would a consumer drive with a decently high TBW be plenty? I'm asking regarding home use scenarios and the typical speed wanted and write cycles expected for that, obviously someone in a production environment should opt for drives specifically meant for such a task.-
I found a lot of intel DC ssd that have high DWPD however the speed is less than the latest consumer SSD. I am struggling to decide which one I want to use.
Depends on your setup. Remember that a cache SSD has only the speed of one drive. On SATA, that can actually be slower than a medium sized hard disk array.
I have a question: so in asustor 4 bay NAS, if i put 2 hdd drive and i chose raid 6, where i can keep the half of my drive for backup, when i add 3rd drive can i choose if it's for backup or main one? And when i add the 4rh drive after a year or so, how it will arrange my drives? I want 2 main drives and 2 backup drives.. is raid 6 is the best?
One I remember that was added but, not sure if it is still required to make a Synology login just to setup a New NAS Device? Just like how need an account login of some kind to use services.
I'm planning to buy DS923+ and I'm wondering about Seagate Exos X16 or X18 discs, are they good for the this Nas or all the same, take those on the sheet for example Hat3300 or Hat5300 v
Do you think for a solo photographer/ videographer, a DAS direct drive is better or not? As these to me seem a lot cheaper and faster especially because I wont have to invest in any 10gig networking for my macbook. And what drawbacks might DAS systems have over NAS?
Whilst I love the topic of your content, and I am looking at building a NAS, I can't help wondering why there is so much emphasis on Synology? I can appreciate that their software might be one of the best, but the tech specs of their systems is not up to the same level as some of the other turnkey options, and well short of what a decent DIYer can achieve. The more I watch, the more I wonder why there is so much content about how great synology is?
@@Ray-dv1md sure for large number of disks as well as for people moving around 100GB files all the time. It’s an edge case for home users, 2.5 what most can do and even there the majority of clients in the house are on WiFi and there even 1GbE is enough.
Do you know if there was any new regarding ransomware or deadbolt encryptions? My NAS was encrypted by .7z and later on by deadbolt on top of that... its been sitting long time now and wondering if anyone got the solution how to get the data back yet? 😢
I would instantly buy and pay extra for a nas company who would sell pre-installed alternative OS's with an easy to follow script for first setup. Not sure if this is possible since the only "NAS" i got is a WD mycloud (which sucks). Feel free to educate me if what i'm saying is impossible. I'd love to learn.
Suggest stating the questions. Hearing "hello tech support" over and over when I'm only able to listen versus watching means i had no idea what you were answering.
Which NAS will let me install an open source OS on it? Which NAS supports symbolic links? I want to link directories in Westerns to Clint Eastwood, John Wayne, etc. directories.
You can install open source Nas OS' on Asustor and Terramaster, and they won't argue about your warranty. QNAP NAS can also have its OS changed, but they do not like it! Regardless, you can only really install 3rd party OS' on a NAS with an x86 CPU..and even then it's waaaay easier if it has integrated gfx
If Raid scrubbing is taking a long time, is it better to do it more often ? Or, is it just a process that requires the inspection of every bit of each drive and that length of time is pretty much fixed regardless of the state of the drives ?
It's mostly fixed, based on your system specs, and it's going to take a while. It's mostly just, let it do its thing and don't worry about it, unless it reports errors. The main thing is, this should hopefully find any errors BEFORE you can't do any thing about them
One obvious question . . Why don't Synology provide SHR OR Alternative RAID systems on their enterprise NAS units . . . and let the customer decide which is more important for their business use ?
*RING* *RING* "Hello IT, I think you have a broken record. You keep repeating the same thing over and over again." It may be funny once but to have it repeat over and over again it just ruins the watching experience. I'm glad I did not sub to this
12 ads? Are you talking about the twelve lines on the timebar? Those are chapters for the Q's. The ads for this video (and all vids on this channel) are set to automatic (i.e. UA-cam's own algorithm).
@@nascomparessounds to me like someone (who doesn't care that it's ad revenue that allows you to create "free" content) is salty their adblocker doesn't work any more.
Yes adblocker does not work anymore and yes 12 ads is a bit too much dont you think? other videos with more subcribers and longer videos donot have half the amount of ads
I must say that UA-cam Premium is one of the best bargains on the internet. Robbie doesn't embed infomercials in his content which is awesome - Keep up the good work!
I use Synology 6-bay systems for home and my business. I got my first back in 2013 and so far haven't had any of the units fail. For my own piece of mind, I retire them after 7 years of 24/7 use and just set my old units in a storage closet.
I could think of some use cases for them:
1)Donate them to a friend/family member that has no backup plans implemented, it would be better than nothing for them;
2)Use them to backup another NAS system just in case the in use NAS fails;
3)Use them for riskier things, like for external web access cases, that way if you open them up to outside the lan, it's limited exposure because it's an isolated NAS box with a mere copy of original files. An example would be put some documents, movies, pictures on the old NAS if you want outside access for yourself or friends/family.
4)Set one up at your parents, kids, whatever house as a backup that isn't in your house.
The best thing you can do for a NAS, is simply BUILD Your Own from scratch. Its not hard and the software is much better.
You might have to learn some things, but hands down, nothing you buy from synology, qnap, etc is even close to what you can build.
Holy... wow. that Nascomparing tool is EXACTLY what i needed. thank you.
Hello! I really enjoy your videos and appreciate the effort you put into them. I have a small request that could enhance the viewing experience for some of us. Would it be possible for you to read aloud the questions that appear on the screen before you answer them? This would be incredibly helpful for those of us who often listen to your videos without watching the screen. Thank you for considering this suggestion and for your wonderful videos!
Apologies for this. This was raised in the last video and *hands in the air* I completely forgot. The 3rd video in this series is always almost completed productions but I'll definitely try and get them added before it's published OR at least announce the Q at the start. Part 4 (which goes suuuuper out-there btw) will be better on this front. Apologies again man
Very much YES PLEASE! I often listen while working on other projects and was completely lost during this video and kept having to rewind the video to read the question… And on a side note… while I love the “IT Crowd” the transition/video clip lost its appeal after the 3rd question… 🙄
I have a Qnap NAS and another Dumb question, if the NAS has a hardware problem, will I lose my data? Or can I put the disks in a PC or a new NAS to recover them?
IMO the question to ask is "Why Synology is so stingy on their hardware choice?".
Because they're cheap, and they have an Apple-esque brand loyal fan base who will still buy it, so they aren't forced to upgrade in order to sell.
Synology Enterprise stuff is enterprise stuff not consumer shit.
Enterprise stuff is not cheap
@@mrcjay Enterprise equipment doesn’t have 1 Gbps LAN, among a whole list of other shit hardware choices Synology typically makes.
@@praetorxyn I don't know what you mean the Rack Stations have 10Gbit or 25Gbit. Yes the CPU is not new. BUT IT IS AN STORAGE not an Hypervisor vor VMs
@@mrcjay Dude, you responded to a copmlaint clearly about Synology's consumer grade NAS units complaining about them having shit hardware by screeching that their Enterprise Units were Enterprise grade and not cheap. It's a completely irrelevant deflection, as their ocmpetitors ALSO have enterprise grade equipment with 10 Gbps LAN and such, but their competitors' consumer grade equipment comes standard with 2.5 Gbps LAN among other things.
Sorry if someone dared to criticize the brand you fanboy for.
This isn't actually a NAS question but more a storage question. I'm planning to implement a NAS for my media library. If SSD life expectation is based on write erase counts and I only want to permanently save my movies to the drive and never erase anything, will it last for decades. Currently my video collection is on SATA drives and the motors go bad every few years and if not caught in time I loose everything. And currently I have over 14 TBs of shows and movies.
SSDs do not last forever. The data stored on an SSD eventually degrades if it's not powered on. If you have one in storage for a decade, you might loose everything on it.
Harddrives are still safer long-term cold storage than SSDs.
I have a question: why is everyone saying that hardware RAID is dead and using it is asking for trouble?
EDIT: My below question was answered thoroughly on the NASCompares website, article from 17 Sept 2021 titled "SSD Caching on a NAS? What is it and should you use it?"
I recommend the article to anyone thinking of caching on their at-home NAS.
-Regarding SSD cache drives, do you have any recommendations? Should people be looking to score a lightly used server grade SSD, like intel Optane or Micron, or would a consumer drive with a decently high TBW be plenty? I'm asking regarding home use scenarios and the typical speed wanted and write cycles expected for that, obviously someone in a production environment should opt for drives specifically meant for such a task.-
I found a lot of intel DC ssd that have high DWPD however the speed is less than the latest consumer SSD. I am struggling to decide which one I want to use.
Depends on your setup. Remember that a cache SSD has only the speed of one drive. On SATA, that can actually be slower than a medium sized hard disk array.
Love these more broad and Synology subjects. Thank you!
I have a question: so in asustor 4 bay NAS, if i put 2 hdd drive and i chose raid 6, where i can keep the half of my drive for backup, when i add 3rd drive can i choose if it's for backup or main one? And when i add the 4rh drive after a year or so, how it will arrange my drives? I want 2 main drives and 2 backup drives.. is raid 6 is the best?
One I remember that was added but, not sure if it is still required to make a Synology login just to setup a New NAS Device?
Just like how need an account login of some kind to use services.
I'm planning to buy DS923+ and I'm wondering about Seagate Exos X16 or X18 discs, are they good for the this Nas or all the same, take those on the sheet for example Hat3300 or Hat5300 v
I have a QNAP TS-251A NAS (2016) and updated to QTS 5.1 it still works fine, can't really complain...
Do you think for a solo photographer/ videographer, a DAS direct drive is better or not? As these to me seem a lot cheaper and faster especially because I wont have to invest in any 10gig networking for my macbook. And what drawbacks might DAS systems have over NAS?
Whilst I love the topic of your content, and I am looking at building a NAS, I can't help wondering why there is so much emphasis on Synology?
I can appreciate that their software might be one of the best, but the tech specs of their systems is not up to the same level as some of the other turnkey options, and well short of what a decent DIYer can achieve.
The more I watch, the more I wonder why there is so much content about how great synology is?
Unfortunately the electricity bill when running a diy NAS is 9/10 times way, way higher than when running a Synology NAS
29:27 that’s why for now 10GbE makes little sense unless you use NVME.
@@Ray-dv1md sure for large number of disks as well as for people moving around 100GB files all the time. It’s an edge case for home users, 2.5 what most can do and even there the majority of clients in the house are on WiFi and there even 1GbE is enough.
Can you do a video with an DS223J with two ssd installed comparisons to hhd for remote access,for us low budget users.
Do you know if there was any new regarding ransomware or deadbolt encryptions? My NAS was encrypted by .7z and later on by deadbolt on top of that... its been sitting long time now and wondering if anyone got the solution how to get the data back yet? 😢
I would instantly buy and pay extra for a nas company who would sell pre-installed alternative OS's with an easy to follow script for first setup.
Not sure if this is possible since the only "NAS" i got is a WD mycloud (which sucks). Feel free to educate me if what i'm saying is impossible. I'd love to learn.
What do you think about the new Ugreen NAS thats coming out soon?
Is it ok to use an old nas on my network that does not have any security updates note I don't use the nas via the cloud only internally?
Another really useful video as I'm about to bite the bullet and buy a NAS for home.
Suggest stating the questions. Hearing "hello tech support" over and over when I'm only able to listen versus watching means i had no idea what you were answering.
Will try and address this in the next vid. Apologies bud
Which NAS will let me install an open source OS on it? Which NAS supports symbolic links? I want to link directories in Westerns to Clint Eastwood, John Wayne, etc. directories.
You can install open source Nas OS' on Asustor and Terramaster, and they won't argue about your warranty. QNAP NAS can also have its OS changed, but they do not like it! Regardless, you can only really install 3rd party OS' on a NAS with an x86 CPU..and even then it's waaaay easier if it has integrated gfx
If Raid scrubbing is taking a long time, is it better to do it more often ? Or, is it just a process that requires the inspection of every bit of each drive and that length of time is pretty much fixed regardless of the state of the drives ?
It's mostly fixed, based on your system specs, and it's going to take a while. It's mostly just, let it do its thing and don't worry about it, unless it reports errors.
The main thing is, this should hopefully find any errors BEFORE you can't do any thing about them
Is the ssd cache available outside comercial brands? (Uniraid ,etc) Sounds like a very usefull feature for photographers and video editors.
Truenas supports caching and it’s quite easy to setup
One obvious question . .
Why don't Synology provide SHR OR Alternative RAID systems on their enterprise NAS units . . .
and let the customer decide which is more important for their business use ?
I would choose RAID 6 instead of SHR2. If the raid crash you can simply use mdadm. I don't know if SHR2 could do that.
Thank you for this it helps.
Are the seagulls building a place next door?
If they did...boom...I'm outta there
*RING* *RING* "Hello IT, I think you have a broken record. You keep repeating the same thing over and over again." It may be funny once but to have it repeat over and over again it just ruins the watching experience. I'm glad I did not sub to this
12 adverts to watch this way too many. Bye
12 ads? Are you talking about the twelve lines on the timebar? Those are chapters for the Q's. The ads for this video (and all vids on this channel) are set to automatic (i.e. UA-cam's own algorithm).
@@nascomparessounds to me like someone (who doesn't care that it's ad revenue that allows you to create "free" content) is salty their adblocker doesn't work any more.
I can neither confirm or deny how much that last comment made me smile
Yes adblocker does not work anymore and yes 12 ads is a bit too much dont you think? other videos with more subcribers and longer videos donot have half the amount of ads
I must say that UA-cam Premium is one of the best bargains on the internet. Robbie doesn't embed infomercials in his content which is awesome - Keep up the good work!