The Boy Savior | Arcane Episode 7 Reaction + Commentary
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- tears were shed. ekko and jinx got me crying
Arcane Episode 7 Reaction
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i wasn't expecting a fight between ekko and jinx to break me...but it did 🙃
Oh madam ekko vs jinx is more sad when you watch the music video of enemy... Before this episode 7.. it all make sense just watch the enemy and you realize why this so much hurt 😥
When you realized that Ekko actually liked her when they were younger (game lore), you'd be even more sad.
@@Anarkey yeah ekko have literally have crush on jinx l... I think not in arcane but in the game and the lol Universe
Hurts more after you watch the Enemy music video with the footage of them as childhood friends :)
Shows what a softie Ekko is. Even in a life or death fight, he holds his punches. Deep respect for that.
The opening scene of the series is literally Vander beating an enforcer to death with his fists. There was a time when he was absolutely willing to kill people for his cause.
On the contrary, Vander was the extremist.
The moment he tried to strangle Silco, he created a monster.
"The only way to defeat a superior enemy is to stop at nothing. To become what they fear."
Unlike Vander, Silco was intent on making deals with his power to scare the Piltoverians. The opening scene in episode 1 comes after Vander's betrayal of Silco.
(jebus767) Like you said, Vander was beating a enforcer to death.
When he finds out that Powder and Violet's parents are dead.
Regardless, he got into the mentality of peace. But this does not apply to the people in the underground city.
Oh for sure, which is the reason for the whole dilemma and breakup he has with Silco -- he moved away from that life as he saw it wasn't the way ("I"m just not that man anymore"), and Silco wasn't ready for that.
@@jamesliggins891Spoilers
True but now Silco understands where Vander was coming from. Kids change everything. In the end he was willing to give up his dreams for his daughter just like Vander
Thought to consider: when Jinx's mechanical butterflies attack the bridge, they seek out guns and sit on them and then blow up. Probably this was meant to break the blockade at the bridge and take out enforcers, since in general, it seems nobody in the Undercity has or uses guns except Jinx. The fact that this happens just as Ekko, Vi and Caitlyn are there is probably mostly incidental. BUT! Caitlyn went above and beyond to save Vi from her stab wound, selling her gun for the anti-stab-wound-potion she bought. In so doing, she saved her own life, since none of the butterflies TARGETED her. She still got hurt, being so close... but if she had her gun in her hands, or strapped to her back, she'd have died. So, love saved Caitlyn's life :P
I'm not entirely sure I believe this theory, but I like it anyway.
@@Hohum37 I mean, they literally did seek out the guns.
@@beyondviolet Many of them seemed to explode in the air, so I'm not convinced.
@@Hohum37 yeah because explosions aren’t typically contained very well lol. I also wouldn’t be surprised if some blew up after reacting to the other explosions
The mechanical "butterflies" were meant to be deployed to kill the Firelights in their hideout because "they were a thorn in our side" - Silco" The mechanical firelights were meant to camoflage with the natural Firelights and take out its members by suprise once the hideout was located. O and Caitlyn lived due to plot armor.
It's hard not to be broken by that fight. Pretty much everything is depressing about it (well, maybe except the soundtrack).
It wasn't typical fight, it was super emotional. I mean, Ekko used memories of their childhood and Powder's habits to win and Jinx just didn't care about dying at the end.
The song is upbeat in the same way pumped up kicks is upbeat. For a killer beat and dark and depressing meaning behind the lyrics.
I think the fight also shows that Jinx *chose* not to shoot Ekko, since they both did the same moves with the same outcome up until she doesn't shoot him when he jumps unlike in the flashback.
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Ekko can also go back in time about as long as that whole scene takes in real time. There's also episode 8 to consider along side the sound you hear right before the explosion.
Ekko saw Powder wasn't gone and instantly used his pipe to knock the grenade away making it less lethal before jumping off the bridge. Still very deadly as she needs Singed's help to survive, and his leg is broken and his gear messed up.
Jinx did kill Ekko shot him in the chest, but before he died he triggered the back in time. And tried to kill him and herself again.
@@lyrebirb83 mmm, ima disagree :). In game (I'm pretty familiar with LoL lore), Ekko uses the Z-drive (something he invented) to facilitate the time rewind. I don't think he has that yet. In fact, I think that will be the fruit of him and Heimerdinger collaborating, as shown in the end of ep. 9.
@@joshgreiner2599 except that doesn't work. That goes against what the scene was meant to show which was Ekkos growth and ability to learn from past mistakes (which yes, is a key part of why he'll use the z drive more effectively than anyone else could.) That's his whole thing so why would they have a whole montage only for him to make the same exact mistakes with his life actually on the line? Narratively speaking, that would be idiotic.
He didn't do the same move at the end for starters. His kid self jumped entirely too early, basically running headfirst into a fired paintball whereas his older self closed more distance before attacking, stunning jinx long enough to hit her( we see her shocked by the move) just cuz it's in slow motion for us doesn't mean she had more than a split second to act and again she was shocked.
She also immediately tried to shoot him again once he knocked her down so I seriously doubt she was holding back the shot before that one because either would've killed him if they hit. It doesn't really make sense.
She was holding back with the bomb though for sure, but that's because he stopped first, and they had a moment, combined with vi leaving, taking all the fight out of her.
I don't believe jinx really wanted to kill ekko in that final moment after she calmed down but she absolutely was willing to before because as the show established, she completely loses control when upset. Hell if Vi and Cait hadn't got extremely lucky and moved when they did, she would've killed them too.
So many people ask why the gas didn’t affect silco. He’s showing he’s always been about these streets. They forgot about them once they knew what it was like to be a little bit higher than the shitty air and have basically become topsiders that need to wear the masks like the enforcers. He’s never left the trenches or left behind the people down there.
Right - it's not that it doesn't affect him, it's that, like the great introduction to the classic Peter O'Toole Lawrence of Arabia, "the trick is not minding that it hurts."
silco was able to resist the gas because he's like an OG. his generation worked in the mines where they had to work in that thick gas he was talking about it. vander probably worked there too since he had those gauntlets (which are used for mining). thats why he was talking to the new gen like they were spoilt brats since they live in a better time that didnt make them as hardened as silco and his generation.
Lol no
@@wooshbait36 Uh, lol yes! They're absolutely right. Silco and Vander worked in the mines and were exposed to the most toxic fumes in the Undercity for decades while most of the Chembarons are either too young to have been there or have spent too much time in the highest section of the undercity with A/C.
@@Arkayjiya no
@@wooshbait36 except that's...literally the reason. It's spelled out in plain English in the show itself.
@@noobgoestrapping5084 lol no
What hit me most about Jynx and Ekko's fight is that last moment, where Ekko stops, sees her, realize she is still his Powder, Jinx looks back at him, realize he still care for her, legit smiles and decides to blow up herself to stop the pain.
You can't throw me that after a sick rap scene!!!
If I were to pick one bone with Arcane and its storytelling/pacing, I think we could have used just a little more time with these characters as kids, especially with Ekko. I feel like we did not get as much of the bond between him and the group (particularly him and Jinx) when they were younger, mostly because we didn't see him that much, and Arcane just sort of expects us to imagine their childhood together.
With that said, I think the last scene in this episode is still emotionally impactful, so either way, I guess they did their job right!
@@jamesliggins891 There are scenes in the Enemy official music video of them hanging out and having fun throughout.
@@Khay-77 sure, but I'm talking about what happens in the actual show
@@jamesliggins891 We don't know if there were any constraints in terms of budget or an episode count they were limited to. It's a very tight 9 episodes with virtually no filler, it sucks but I'm happy with the finished product.
I'd hope with the success they were given more freedom to give us 12 episodes or longer run times.
Seeing Marcus with his FUCKING ARM BLOWN OFF and saying "oof...he hit his head" is probably my favorite reaction to that scene
LMAOOOO i did not see his…lack of arm…in that moment 😂
I really love this episode, Ekko is such a cool boy and yep that ending broke you.
If I were to pick one bone with Arcane and its storytelling/pacing, I think we could have used just a little more time with these characters as kids, especially with Ekko. I feel like we did not get as much of the bond between him and the group (particularly him and Jinx) when they were younger, mostly because we didn't see him that much, and Arcane just sort of expects us to imagine their childhood together.
With that said, I think the last scene in this episode is still emotionally impactful, so either way, I guess they did their job right!
@@jamesliggins891 you get to see more of Ekko’s interaction with Powder in the ‘Enemy’ music video
I think they probably wanted to give him more scenes when they were younger but they couldn’t fit anymore, so they decided to put Ekko and Powder’s relationship in the MV
The animation and soundtrack in that fight was EPIC!!!
- )The gas that Sevika and Silco used to poison the other people are the air they used to breath in Undercity. Silco isn't affected because he never forgets where they came from, he never forgets why they fight.
-) Yes, Viktor took time to cut the string was because he was considering whether to defuse the bomb, or just let the bomb explode, killed him and Jayce and also all the research papers so hextech won't be weaponized. But he chose to cut it, and said the line ' there is always a choice'.
-) They actually showed Jinx making the butterfly bombs in episode 4 (cmiiw)
I can't wait for your reaction of the finalee
That fight just blew me the first time I watched it,lots of emotions ;)
Jinx lost his friends and Vander, lost Vi, Silco lied to her, and his best childhood friend hit her. She lost everything. She didn't want to win the fight with the bomb, she wanted to die.
I always thought it was to show how ruthless Jinx has become. Thank you for that insight! It's genius and straight up tragic
I almost agree. Jinx has lost everyone, Silco lied, and her sister just left with Caitlyn - but in that final moment, Ekko paused and saw his old friend, his eyes didn't show fear, hatred, accusation, disgust, distrust - he just saw *her*. I think in that moment maybe Powder was back, and yes, because she knew that acceptance wouldn't last, wanted to die. Perhaps she did.
Oh my..!! ☺ I literally stop my assignment and first watch your reaction...!! As for arcane I don't have words to describe how much I love this show and lol waiting for the next one♥️♥️
10:58 "I think Silco is the one who has always been taking it to the extreme though and will literally kill for it, where is Vander is not like that"
Except in flashbacks we see Vander being exactly like that, killing people with his bare hands to fight for the cause. Also an implication that he tried to kill Silco for trying to stop him or for getting in the way (assuming that because it was the same time period and clearly Vander felt like Silco was in the way of something he was trying to accomplish). I got the sense that after the bridge incident and Vander trying to drown Silco that their roles reversed. Vander saw what the result was and adopted kids and that mellowed him while Silco was traumatized by Vander and that hardened him and pushed him towards violence.
But in the past Vander absolutely would kill for it.
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Silco is a monster created by Vander.
@@n0bleonline222 yeah their story was clearly the past version of Vi and Powder. Hot headed Vi and mild but eager Powder. Hot headed Vi gets them into a bad spot and Powder makes it worse then they have that falling out. We dont see all of Vander and Silcos story other than it was definately hot headed Vander ans Silco was definately in his crew and viewed him as a brother. Id like to think behind the scenes which we werent shown the parallels continue. That Silco was a bit meek but eager and did something maybe without intention that F'd up Vanders plan and the result was Vander trying to kill him.
Now Vi's response to Powder wasnt nearly that bad but the way they got seperared and Silco saw the similarity he projected that on a 7 year old and Powder and she just made that part of her identity.
Really good writing and I love that they left so much detail out to let you fill in with just hints of the parallels. So few shows do that anymore, they just straight up tell you.
The parallel of personality and relationship between Vander-Grayson-Silco and Vi-Caitlyn-Jinx
Just so amazing
Alana built different she cried over the Jinx Ekko fight while we're all hyped over the music and art changes😹🤝 tbf I did too after ... Refreshing reaction for sure
it hits harder if you know some of their ingame interactions too.
Ekko when fighting an enemy Jinx: “I had a crush… until you started talking to the gun.”
Such a good fight though
Hi Alana you're my favorite reactor so far! ☺️
When you look at Silco and Jinx's characters from a father/daughter perspective, I believe that Silco didn't lie to Jinx directly and wanted to protect her daughter as Silco said. The series is all about perspective and its characters sustain/create traumas.
Episodes 4 and 5 Silco/Jinx interactions are very different from the classic malevolent villains, both visually and in dialogue. Silco has more or less learned how to be a father over the past 7 years, and to the best of his ability, he's been removing the things outside that could pose danger and trauma to Jinx.
Since I know the series doesn't contain black and white characters, it's apparently just gray.
I'm curious about Singed's backstory, what got him on this path.
Maybe it's a situation with her daughter, who knows, we'll see.
I have heard cases against binge watching things as it apparently is not as good of an experience as you lose some info just due to zoning out and not paying as much attention to things, but in the case of Arcane it was made in 3 segments of 3 episodes, and those segments each work really well to watch in one sitting if you have the time to do so.
it always breaks my heart the smile before pulling the pin 😭😭😭 the only thing I see is a big "I'm sorry"
There’s no Black and White, within this Show, if that hasn’t been clear already, the last two will certainly get this point home.
Except for Ekko. He is as close to good as you can be in his position. He is fighting to stop shiner, making a place and systems to not just help folk off it, but a safe place for kids to grow up. He is even intellectually honest and shows that by listening to Kaylen right after admitting she came for the gem and still wants to return it and countered with terms that he will give it to them himself (politically a great idea).
@@LionlordEbonfire hm, fair points.
Lovely reaction !!!!
Crazy episode to start act 3 !!
0:15 I think show itself gave us the best way to watch it... in parts of 3 episodes per sitting. Seriously, this was probably THE best release schedule for series ever. Not streching it too long and giving just enough content for shock and alot to theorize about in the week leading up to another Act.
I agree. Three arcs with 3 episodes each is a good way to release a series like this. I wish Anime did it the same way. Many series are 12 episodes, so 3 episode arcs would work perfectly.
The fact that piltover never acknowledged that how the undercity ended up the way it is because of their misuse of people down there. Is what proves silco point, that violence is the only way to get there attention. Like they are only caring now when it affects them.
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As an effect of Vander's attempt to strangle Silco, Silco is partly following Vander's footsteps. (Although not in the sense of physical muscle strength, Silco is more of a push for diplomatic deals.)
"The only way to defeat a superior enemy is to stop at nothing. To become what they fear."
When I saw that scene of ekko and jinx I was mesmerized with the song and the animation but bawling my eyes out at the same time
On the contrary, Vander was the extremist.
The moment he tried to strangle Silco, he created a monster.
"The only way to defeat a superior enemy is to stop at nothing. To become what they fear."
Unlike Vander, Silco was intent on making deals with his power to scare the Piltoverians. The opening scene in episode 1 comes after Vander's betrayal of Silco.
As another comment said, in the opening scene of episode 1, Vander was beating a enforcer to death.
When he finds out that Powder and Violet's parents are dead.
Regardless, he got into the mentality of peace. But this does not apply to the people in the underground city.
Alana you’re amazing! I just love a gal who knows how to express themselves well.
the Ekko Jinx scene is my favourite in the whole series. p.s i like your look with glasses look sophisticated
Ekko has an in game quote to jinx, "I had a crush… until you started talking to the gun."
The big thing about Vander, is that he "didn't wan't change", he'd rather the status quo between topside and the lanes remained the same, with the lanes full of poor people starving, stealing and fighting among to themselves for scraps. As long there wasn't more bloodshed, he didn't see a way for his people to win, as he tried once and saw the consecuences.
Silco instead decided that he would do whatever it takes to for his people to gain independance and respect. His fight is noble, his methods are not.
The mysterious blue sustance is called a flare. Vi gave it to Powder before going to rescue Vander.
Bit of a correction. Vander DID want change. He just didn't know how to get it. So he was doing the best he could to protect his people and keep the status quo in the meantime.
He did want change still. He did still want better. But he couldn't find an answer that involved prices he was willing to pay.
Vi knows powder, not jinx. Jinx hates powder for who she represents; weak and useless, whose inventions never worked. Silco helped her gain the strength she always wanted. Jinx knows what she's doing, and she enjoys it. The stealing of the gemstone was all her, no one forced her to do it.
My absolute favourite episode so far
One of the things this show does so well is it makes you care so much about these characters. This episode takes all of that and clashes it together. As random as Ekko vs. Jinx was, it pulls on that. Great pay off.
Jayce is exactly as accepting of the citizens of the Undercity... and of everything else... as the last person he talked to. He is so easy to lead that it's amazing he has done anything in his entire life that was solely his own ambition.
Tragedy is the exact word
I like your glasses. it looks good
To me, the Vander vs Silco philosophies are not so much about "good rebel" vs "bad rebel" like so many other stories are, but that Vander changed to his peaceful ways not because he had moral qualms about using violence against their oppressors, but because he realized that the violence was not worth it when he saw the toll it was taking on his own people, particularly the children affected by it. He decided it was better to accept inequality than to fight to the point of having no one left to fight for.
Ekko's story is incredible because he lost his mentor, perhaps someone he considered his father and he literally saw his death, he had to go through a lot and in the end he got that place and created that group, he is too good a character.
"im terrified for victor now"
4:51 "is that jayce?" A hunk for a day keeps the fear away
That was the most powerful scene of this show by having two lifelong friends fighting to the death it was very heart felt but I suggest that you if you haven't already check out the music video Imagine Dragon Enemy it will bring more deepness to what just happen.
7, 8 and 9 in one day? How did you survive?
When Jinx is stabbing Silco in the face, I know I'm not supposed to find it funny but they're my favorite characters and I can't help but laugh at this point.
Yeah how they she can survive 😆 EMOTIONAL DAMAGE
I watched this series the night before we go on our vacation.. I didn't get any sleep and watched the final episode on the car as we go.. Man, my vacation was ruined and I can't focus on the beautiful places we went as the sun kept me reminded of that fcking red moon.. 😆
A lot of people overlook the fact that literally in his prior scene Silco had dominated a room full of chembarons, yet in this scene he is rendered powerless by his adoptive daughter. She is his one weakness, his one fear. Not of death, but of losing the one person that has filled the void that Vander left in his heart so many years ago.
funny thing is she mentioned something about getting more immersed into it and starts crying on the first episode of the last part i think she had enough immersion :^)
Vi doesn't really know Jinx, she knows Powder, but not Jinx. And her refusal to accept Jinx is the main reason they can never go back to the way things used to be.
Caitlyn was changed by Vi and the journey to the Under-city, where else Viktor never really speaks about his experience in the Under-city and his ethnicity, plus Jinx just killed so many enforcers (6) so nothing is really is black n white. Security measures grow more extreme as the city advances, it's inevitable.
The show establishes the firelights as good because their first fight they used non-lethal force weapons. We’re as jinx just kills everyone
"how wouldn't it solve everything?" Cause the Topsiders are terrified that the Undercity might have Hextech weapons. If Ekko used the gem, the topsiders would panic and probably make weapons to attack the Undercity. Caitlyn is right there.
The fight animation is something else...
Good reaction!
I don't think Jayce was entirely wrong to fear Viktor talking to someone from the Undercity. Remember for a moment, Viktor did go to see Singed, the INVENTOR of Shimmer and one who gave the technology to Silco. Of course they're not all bad people, but Viktor did in fact go see one of the worst ones.
***SPOILER for episode 8 & 9 follows - probably safe if Alana did see all through episode 9***
And Viktor's experimentation that followed from Singed's encouragement led directly to the death of Skye and creation of the sentient (and possibly evil) Hexcore.
Ekko was prepared to kill Jinx. What he WASNT prepared for was to kill Powder.
A lot of people (I would say most eventually) come to that conclusion. That and that Ekko and Vi are both wrong about getting though to Jinx)
What Ekko was silently saying to Jinx, when he pulled out the pocket watch and began swinging it: "Let's play our old game...one last time."
And while Ekko was prepared to kill Jinx, he wasn't ready to kill his old friend Powder.
I understand why Ekko feels that Jinx is beyond redemption; he's lost friends to her, and he doesn't know what happened to her after that tragic night. He was in shock himself, scrambling to survive. By the time they met again, they were on opposing sides.
"We're scientists, not soldiers." I like Viktor, but he has his blind spots and naivety. Most weapons are invented and developed by scientists; hell, he and Jayce have already invented weapons, even if they didn't intend to.
oh! I thought you were going to show 7, 8 and 9 in this session. But you mean in different YT vids, then? Prepare for the 9th (with tissues)!
The stuffed anime boy in your background; the entire time it was on your bed I thought it was a stuffed toy of Selim Bradley.
Yeah its yuta from jjk
2 funny facts about Ekko and Jinx:
1. This whole scene with Ekko and Jinx fighting when they were younger is a tribute to Ekko's time based abilites in-game. In-game he can control time and turn it back so that's a little homage to that.
2. In-game there is a voiceline where Ekko's says: "i had a crush... until you started talking to the gun." He basically admits his love to her, which what makes this whole scene even more sad.
I did two episodes at a time for like a few weeks
Hi, Alana. Thanks so much for uploading this awesome reaction video. I love your content because it's so cool, and I really enjoy watching you react to different shows.
I mean, if you wanna cry even more about the situation, I recommend you check out the music video for Enemy for, uh, reasons. 🙃
I really hope you react to episode 8 and 9 too! Your reaction video was the best! Thank you for sharing !! 🥰🥰🥰
absolute love your reacting
I think that Silco did not lie from his point of view. Vi is looking for Powder, not Jinx.
She's looking for her sister, period.
@@jamesliggins891 powder and jinx is not the same person
@@bruhhh8326 Powder and Jinx are not two separate personalities.
Powder grew up, naming herself Jinx at the end of episode 3.
Powder and Jinx are the same person.
7 years time skip is the change of powder.
Violet cannot understand this.
@@n0bleonline222 yes she can she is more violent vi keep pushing the powered personalities even though jinx said powder is no more
this episode was the bomb doggity
7:24 a little detail but they just painting the pink haired girl who died in ep 4
19:30 the entire show in one sentence
This is why it makes it an almost perfect tragic show
I love that you picked up that Viktor hesitated to cut the wire when defusing the bomb. Not many people do. But as we've seen, Viktor is willing to go pretty far for his idea(l)s, and I really think he though that it might be better that both of them die here and now, so nobody weaponized the Hextech. But I think he tought he could still sway Jayce to do the right (for him) thing, so he disabled it.
EDIT : I just realized something. We know this show love making parallels between things. And as a parallel to Viktor's choice with the bomb, we end on Powder (not Jinx), facing the exact same choice, seeing something she holds dear going completely off the rails (in this case, herself). But she didn't make tthe same choice as Viktor, she already lost hope that things could still change and be back on track.
Or, you know, he hesitated because accidentally cutting the wrong wire would mean death.
@@dearthofdoohickeys4703 Look at his eyes, you don't see panic or anything like that, he is just contemplating a choice, and this is further hinted by his sentence, right after "There is always a choice"
As far as Viktor and Jayce not wanting to make weapons...well, they already have. The gauntlet and the laser thing can be used as weapons, but I think they are too naive to believe that.
"this is cool song but iam sad at same time"
the next two episodes are just emotional damage
안경이 잘 어울리시네요.
Jinx vs Ekko
Lets play our little game one last time
Okay since nobody really pointed out the key things here and I've said this in almost all of the bigger react channels video on this ep:
Jinx already knew what Ekko was gonna do when he pulled out the stopwatch
We know this because she smirks assumes a stance and adjusts her gun.
All the gunshots Powder fired as a kid missed except the last one,
Jinx didn't really fire that last shot, the one that hit baby Ekko.
I like to think Jinx released that grenade not for Ekko, but for herself as she again, found herself abandoned by VI
This scene was done with so much love and creativity, and even more mindblowing if you consider and know what Ekko's power is in League of Legends.
“She knows her better than anyone”
*laughs in Silco
Ps
Love your reactions
Maybe add reaction to season 2 teaser when you upload episode 9
I think that the Jinx vs Ecco fight perfectly encapsulates the show; it’s just so cool, yet so heartbreaking.
You said silko is terrifying.... Well not in front of jinx... Jinx is more terrifying look silco in 20:21 he's holding his self to let not hurt jinx..
SINGED his name is SINGED, pls, My main has to be named appropriately :(
Hehehe, from here, the real fun really starts within this Show, you have still seen nothing yet.
A note that the show I think could have hit harder: when Ekko is showing Vi the mural of the fallen and talking about how Powder is Jinx now and works for Silco willingly, they don't touch on the fact that a large number of those dead were specifically *murdered by Jinx.* We have our two unfortunate sidekicks from the first episodes, but we got to watch Jinx actively kill some more Firelights in episode 4 during the cargo raid, and those certainly weren't her first.
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Loved your reaction, I'm still team jix.
But yeah this scene was sad
Fun fact, ekko had a crush on powder
(Viktor pauses while disarming the grenade) "I think he was thinking about not cutting that string there" - I agree, not many people notice that. I think I only did on my second watch. I think he's fleetingly considering preventing hextech being weaponised by killing himself and Jayce. Him saying "We always have a choice" clinches it..
Foreshadowing for Jinx and Ekko later, too. (And perhaps a callback to Marcus considering killing himself and Silco with the same grenade Viktor has here)
I mean someone has gotten to Jayce. Someone always whispering in his ear. And if we swap Ekko and Jinx, and he is just killing people and blowing up buildings and shooting at Vi, would anyone feel sorry for Ekko? Real question, or would say we understand how he got here but someone has to stop him?
Hell no people wouldn't feel sorry for him. Lots of fans BARELY even acknowledge ekko suffered at all compared to jinx as it is.
Like he wasn't an 11-12 child who had everyone he cared for die overnight and was then forced to fend for himself in a world ran by the person responsible, powders new dad, who while loving to her would gladly brutally murder him or anyone else who opposed him in a heartbeat. Only to find out years later his best friend is still alive and murdering on that same man's orders. His best friend willingly murdered some of the new friends he'd managed to gain.
Folks have mentally broken for far less.
Ekko suffered tremendously and the fact he was able to take his pain and use it to drive him to help others so they wouldn't suffer the same is impressive.
Realistically tho, if ekko was in jinxes place atleast 70% of the fan base would be calling for his death. He wouldn't get the same empathy jinx gets from people.
Kawaii glasses.... 🙋 Watching 🥰
You know in arcane they had an esdeath 😅
That fight broke us all. Just shows how two people, who basically love each other, can ends up fighting for life just by chances and fate.
12:40 "Don't believe him" Honestly everything he said was true. Manipulative sure, but also true. He didn't know Vi was in Stillwater, cant know for sure if he wanted to protect Jinx or not (he does care about her) so although that might not be the main reason it is still probably true, and that Vi and Catilyn are only back for the crystal...which also, technically, also true. WIthout the crystal Vi and Catilyn would not be looking for them.
Silco wouldn't be nearly as compelling if he just straight-up lied all the time. He is selective with the truth to be manipulative, but I never caught him actually lying.
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Vi was only there for jinx. Without a hint to jinx, vi wouldn't help caitlyn. Silco knew after the fight with Sevika that Vi is after jinx, that's why he didn't tell jinx that. So I think he lied a little bit.
@@octastarracoon7241 I understand that. But the way he phrased it was true. He didnt say Vi is only here for the crystal he said THEY are only here for the crystal. The only reason that Vi AND Catilyn were back in the lanes was to track down the crystal, not Jinx. No crystal, no Catilyn and then no Vi. Vi was there for Jinx, but THEY werent there for Jinx.
He didnt say the reason Vi wants to come is she cares about the Crystal.
He said something true, selectively...in a way he knew would manipulate. Not saying he is a good guy, but he clearly has his own ethics and rules and as far as I can tell is dont lie because then you might get trapped in one you cant explain.
One reason I really loved the show, the writers were really good with the dialogue word choices. They...not Vi.
Dont worry, It only gets worse.
When Viktor defuses the bomb i don't think he was thinking about not doing it, he clearly shows he wants to live
I think it shows how he doesnt fear death anymore, this is why he doesnt fear the core at all
Marcus' left arm was blown off. Hitting his head was the least of his problems. lol
It's real subtle - like the plants dying from Silco releasing the gas during his meeting with the chem-barons.
Watching Silco lie to Jinx about why Vi is back hurts every time. Like goddamit Silco. He knew what he was doing :(
Also I agree with your reading of that scene -- I think Viktor was considering not cutting the cord on that bomb.
I'd argue that it's not as clear cut as that. Another way to see it, and one that fits a little better, to my mind at least, is that it is not an intentional misrepresentation of Vi's motives. Silco has no reason to trust the reason Vi gives for returning, given Vi's abandonment of Powder (Silco doesn't know that Vi was trying to get back to Powder when Marcus abducted her) and her searching the underground with an Enforcer in tow - only after the theft of the hextech crystal casts doubt on Vi's intensiona. I think Silco's need to protect Jynx means that he can only see Vi as a threat to her so that's the narrative that rings true for him, thus the only one he presents to Jynx. He's a damaged individual that sees betrayal everywhere, given his experience with Vander, and in fairness he is half right, Caitlyn is primarily there for the gemstone, she doesn't know Vi & Jynx are sisters until the end of this episode. To me it's more tragic yet also more believable that it's not a villains' self serving deception that leads to tragedy but rather a damaged father's attempt to protect his daughter - I'm not saying either interpretation is correct, just that (like in a lot of great writing) there's multiple ways of looking at the same interaction/relationship 🙂
@@sealofapproval637 I can understand where you're coming from, but being that she told him directly "I'm here to get my sister and bring your bullshit empire down," I think SIlco saw it far more as him taking away things he thought belonged to him and only him.
If he truly cared about Jinx's well being, he could easily have told her that her sister was back, and saw how she felt about it, or talked it through with her, instead of lying and or not being forthright. To lie about what Vi said only after being caught in his own lie, and to keep reinforcing the narrative that it's only him and her, is most definitely manipulative. Silco is definitely damaged, but he is also definitely manipulative. I think it's telling that his immediate instinct was to try and drive that wedge between them further apart instead of trying to unite them, as Jinx has clearly been thinking about her sister a lot.
I think it can be both self-serving and protective at the same time. I can accept that Silco in some way thought this might be the best option for Jinx, but I'd have to be blind to what we know of his character to think he wouldn't try to warp the situation to his advantage.
@Seal of Approval ++ I agree
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Man, this series is all about perspective, Violet Jinx and Silco can't know their relationship (father/daughter)
Violet doesn't know anything, she's stuck in the past and wants her little sister back, whom she talked to in the old days.
Anything Violet has to say about Silco has no source of truth, the same goes for Ekko.
Both close friends (Ekko and Violet) lost their father figure and siblings. I doubt they'll think about what Silco is planning and why he's doing it. They just want to stop him.
For example:
-Ekko, who said that Silco was scattering the shimmer on the streets.
-As we can see, the Shimmer is not a Silco thing. (It's a liquid from the
Singed character.)
-We saw that the shimmer was available for use at Vander's bar.
-We know that the Chembarons have news about the shimmer. (Even the son of one of the Chembarons works there. (The boy who pressed the button)
I can't understand the fact that Silco wants to make his underground city people addicted to shimmer.
It would make sense if he was a character who did evil to be the common bad guy. But it is not.
My view is that he thought it was Silco that delivered Ekko Shimmer to the streets. The fact that Deckard, who has taken Shimmer, has seen Ekko kill his father figure, perhaps thinks Silco is the only human with access to Shimmer.
Who knows. This is not a confirmed thing, I don't see any logical reason.
I just don't see the point in Silco doing this. I just think Ekko is looking for someone to blame.
@@n0bleonline222 There's some revisionist history going on here. The Shimmer is obviously coming from Silco -- he was working on developing it with the doctor in the first act, where they used it on the cat, used it on Deckard, and where he talks about using it with Vander. We also see him freely giving it out to the homeless people in the second act, where he uses them to attack Vi. And then he has huge manufacturing plants full of it in the third act, where he has the kids working. It is most definitely a Silco thing. I am confused about why you would try to ignore or change all of that in the story.
@@jamesliggins891 I'm not trying to change anything.
I'm starting to think you didn't read what I wrote.
I'm saying my friend, I can't see the purpose of Silco making people living in the underground city addicted.
For Zaun, I can't relate to independence, to shimmering kids and making them addicted. What good is silco for children who are addicted to shimmer, what does Silco gain from this, can you explain it to me?
Episode 6 may also have given shimmers to people who are already addicted (to keep Violet and Caitlyn from going upstairs)
But tdhat doesn't prove that Silco has dispersed it underground.
Singe and his Chembarons are aware of Shimmer
Even the character Finn talks about losing money in episode 7.
It made more sense to me that a character like Finn would sell shimmers for money. Or other chembarons.
We watched the episodes that reminded us of what Silco wanted to do since episode 3.
But the fact that Silco was the one to distribute Shimmer to the streets seemed ridiculous when analyzing the character.
So what's the purpose?
We hear from Ekko that it was Silco who deployed the shimmer underground. (Ekko shows the children inside the firelight base, mentioning that they were either victims or addicts)
I love the Chem Barons confrontation with Silco. How he was not affected by it is a combination of two things - while the other chem barons have moved into towers stretching out of the Undercity, like the one the meeting is held in, Silco remains down in the lanes, breathing the air there the same as everyone else. He's simply tolerant to it because it's just a more concentrated dose of what he breathes daily. In addition, he breathed in deeply just as Sevika entered witht he gas canister, and conserves his breath. If you're used to it, several versions of tear gas can be handled if you breathe slowly and carefully, and I think that is the effect they are going for - Silco is more accustomed to the substance, and he is prepared for what is about to happen.
The best part is when he says "we came from a world where there was never enough to go around", just as everyone has gotten a mask except himself and Finn... and there is only ONE mask left. Not enough to go around. Showmanship :)
As for Silco and Vander - Vander was more than prepared to kill people and go to extremes - it's not like him using his supposedly cast iron gauntlets to crack enforcers skulls against the pavement would have left them alive. There's been some hints and suggestions that the conflict between Vander and Silco was rooted in more, as well as some... UNCLEAR stuff there, but the main difference between Vander and Silco was that Vander was not prepared to lose "his people"... IN A FIGHT. So he decided to lose them slowly to pollution and starvation instead. That's what Silco is upset with him for, really... not being willing to pay the COST to make progress against Piltover. He, meanwhile, IS prepared to pay that cost. The difference, then, is a certain degree of callousness, ruthlessness. My read on the situation between Zaun and Piltover affirms Silco's stance in this. Zaun is suppressed and exploited in such a way that rebellion is, frankly, inevitable. To win, the only resource Zaun has to draw on is their people. Either you spend their lives in the fight, or they die from the inexorable, slow genocide Piltover is already running. That's what Silco despised in Vander, in the end - that when he took in the sisters and became their father, he was no longer willing to make the sacrifices needed to win. He felt that in order to win against their oppressors, Vander should be willing to sacrifice even those girls... or at least, that's what I think.
Yay! My boy, Ekko making his appearance! My favorite character among all. And ngl, this final act is gonna be rough. You'll understand why by the end of the final episode. There is no right or wrong, just suffering for all sides.
@Alana Misako this a theory so might not be true, but I think Silco was affected by the gas. Throwback to one of the first episodes with his little pep-talk to Deckard before juicing him with shimmer. Something along the lines of “Stop at nothing to become what they fear”. I think that was a demonstration of that ideology, as he took a sip from the mask before giving it to Finn
You should check out the Imagine Dragons - Enemy official music video for some added scenes with Powder and Ekko as kids hanging out. He had a crush on her growing up and they were always together, sadly the show just didn't have room to show their relationship. It adds a bit more weight to their fight and why the moment he paused when he realized the Powder he cared for was still in there.
The Start of Act 3 of Season 1, the Final Act of Season 1.
Now... Why do Silko isn't affected by the gaz he brought up to his underlings? Well... Simple:
Despite being such a bad bad BAD guy, he is true to his origins. He still live in the undercity where pollution is everywhere and breathing his hard. So he is more tolerant to toxic gaz. In contrario, the others start to live in mantion close to the surface and lost their tolerance.
That's what Silko pointed to them: he is still a warrior for a cause. He still want to free his city from Piltover.
Silco ostensibly wants better for his people, but the way he goes about it -- using, abusing and discarding his own people -- is something I don't think Vander ever would have done. Or at least -- that's what Vander tried to move away from. Which is not to say Silco's anger is not understandable, just -- it's been poisonous to everyone around him.
He literally killed people wtf are you talking about
Ekko came prepared to kill Jinx. And he was going to until he saw Powder.
20:10 don't cry please you'll make me cry too
No spoilers.
So... You already watched last episodes. And I want to say that now I realize that 8th episode is supposed to turn all the things much more clear before finale. It gives final pieces of motives of other heroes and so on. And during your reaction series I kinda feel bad for Silco. I know that not everyone is supposed to love him as a character. But at my first watch I was a bit stunned how good was his writing. Creators of Arcane really did a well designed villain for their show. And to be honest it was much more of expectations play because I didn't see it coming so good. I hate to idolise this show and it takes a lot of appreciation from it's fans quite deserved. But I think that it is always important to notice why this show is so good. They did their maximum ov every small section of the series. It is combination of very simple things which were combined masterfully. I'm looking forward to see next reactions. This was a good nostalgia session for me.