@23:15 "I don't see anybody who can be against teaching the truth".... have you seen these school board meetings? Edit: what she said about "discomfort pushed us to grow" is exactly why we should be honest about history. So we can grow.
This is what I always say about the discomfort of teaching history in schools. My grandparents and my parents as well as myself. Had to endure that discomfort. I was born in 1964 and I truly understand the hate as well as the hurt.
@@TJ-gt1zz I agree. I used to be reluctant to be candid with children about history. Then I realized that the children living during that time didn't have the luxury of choice.
@Jamedra A My Mother made sure that we knew history. She didn't sugarcoat anything. She often spoke about her experiences, as well as my grandparents experiences.
Who do you think is not wanting true history taught? Your not really listening to those parents speaking out at the school board meetings. Noone is saying they don't want true history taught. SMH. Your lying or blinded.
Years ago we went to the African American Museum in D.C. It was difficult to watch white people who were there. Some of them were deeply moved and some became very emotional. It's the same way I felt when I went to the Holocaust Museum. I encourage people to understand that history is good bad and ugly.
And I’m sure you saw nothing that encouraged you to hate White people, or make someone feel guilty. Telling the truth about history is not about trying to cause hate. I love what the museum director said, these sources speak for themselves, therefore, she doesn’t have to inject her opinion. The same with the Civil War, there are documents from the primary source writers who explains why was the war being fought by the South. As you said, it’s good & bad, but we must teach it, so we can learn from it, not deny it! Somebody might say, I understand why others don’t want to honor that person, because he’s only famous because he fought to maintain slavery. That was his only contribution. Teaching real history helps us today!
I’ve watched a few of these, and my takeaways are that these Black people (mostly women, in the ones I’ve watched so far) are giving these people sooooo much information. But I want to hear from the white couple. They’re just agreeing and saying what they need to say to avoid conflict. I want them to answer some questions: what is it that you don’t agree with? It’s been established that kids aren’t being taught critical race theory, and that conservatives are really worried about the truth being taught in schools. I want to see a video with them saying what they’re so scared of. What do they disagree with?
Fundamentally it's all about control of information. This couple has been thoroughly educated (at least as much as necessary) out of the conservative culture war bubble of thought that is "critical race theory is being taught in schools", and I'm sure that, in private - and very broadly on camera - they're happy to admit that they now realize that isn't the case. And that's really nice that these two hyperreligious conservatives have perspective on *one* conservative culture war issue. But these are two of 80 million. The game is the big picture messaging, what 'feels' correct. Whether you are 'pure' enough in your political Beliefs to accept the messaging being handed down. The concept of "Truth" to a GOP'er has naught to do with objective reality, and solely whether it lines up with what Fox and Newsmax say. All topics *must* have two sides, "Good" or "Evil". and if you're not completely on the "Good" side... Look how confused this poor man is towards the end of this video when he asks what the answer might be that 'the media' seems to have blown CRT out of any realm of what it actually is. He genuinely can't conceive of a news source that doesn't sensationalize and emotionally load topics to the point of parody. Looking into things in detail like this is very 'woke' IE uncool, to be mocked and derided. CRT is the GOP's current wedge issue for defunding public schools. The strategic messaging is incredibly transparent: "Public school is Government telling your children they are Evil Whites, so we must defund Evil Public schools and encourage Good Freedom in private schools, where Evil Government has no oversight of the curriculum and messaging". This guy repeats what she says about 'learning how to think, not what to think - to demand evidence and primary sources', but outside his law practice he absolutely does not believe in or live by any of that. This couple aren't going to run for office, loudly yelling into a mic that today's conservatism appears to be based solely on outrage over fictional slights, and advocating for real policy ideas and legislating with their colleagues instead of obstruction and distractions. These folks have no disgreements on CRT for the cameras, but I guarantee they still 'feel' like they need more control over what their kids are taught in public school - and there are still a dozen other faux outrageous claims, like Dr Seuss being banned, that will keep them voting reliably conservative. Ask any one of them how gas prices were so low in the middle of 2020 compared to now at the start of a war with Russia - I guarantee none will highlight supply and demand. Ask if Keystone XL had been approved, would gas prices be appreciably lower now? I bet they would all say yes, absolutely. Ask them how higher mileage standards for cars and trucks would be a good thing - I bet they've got nothing. Ask what is the problem with trans people using the bathroom they identify with - whether Trump made any money off being president - is the southern border open for easy immigration - The problem is that they fundamentally and very emotionally disagree with Objective Reality - that's how far astray they've gone in the last 20 years.
Shanda, Your comment really gets to the heart of the problem. I’ve noticed that the couple keep repeating their view that “all kinds” of people participated in the civil rights movement. They seem to be trying to paper over the whole reason for the movement in the first place - that most white people were violently oppressing Black people. They’ve both been eager to establish their connections to the right side of history. I would be curious to learn about their ancestors. Were all of them also on the right side of history? My siblings and I recently had a long conversation with my aunt, our family’s amateur genealogist, about several family members we hadn’t known much about before. We are all white and mostly descended from immigrants who came to the Great Plains in the late 19th and early 20th century. But there was a branch - mostly ignored because we’re connected to it through a father who abandoned his wife and children. That branch goes back to the 1700’s at least. My aunt wanted to focus on an oblique connection to Abraham Lincoln, but she disengaged when my siblings and I tried to explore other ancestors who, although too small-time to run forced labor camps themselves, nonetheless accepted the system of enslaved laborers. If we can’t even acknowledge all the truth of history, how will we ever reconcile?
With segregation, how would they know? I grew up in rural Upstate NY with no black folks. We had one mulatto family... anyway a bad turn of events lead our family to move where there were a lot of migrant workers which then were primarily black. A classmate's name was Darlene, mine Marlene & the teacher would confuse us & we'd giggle becuz she was black & I wasn't. My friend & I started playing together at recess & my own cousins said racist things. My parents were "soft racists". If that turn in our lives hadn't happened, I'd probably stayed ignorant & maybe racist. I was 7 or 8 & it left a lasting positive effect on me & my view of race. Some ppl go their whole lives without interacting with other races or classes or nationalities. Probably what happened with this couple - they truly never were exposed.
@@drinkwater9891 that was when she was 18. I'm amazed her parents let her go actually. I'd say she's 40 or 50 so she came up with no internet & probably no cable TV. I'd actually like to hear her story. Plus she was newly married when she went there, so her social life was probably a lot different than many freshmen in college. Not making excuses for her, but not gonna crucify someone who chose to go to HBCU back then either. This is the 3rd episode I've seen. Curious to see the end result & if she & her hubby have any closing thoughts. Hopefully they'll be proponents on their local school board for teaching 'race friendly' curriculum. And metro Atlanta has a lot of ethnic groups that need diversity training as well.
It's a different learning about racism when you're being beaten up, threatened with imprisonment, police dogs biting you versus reading about racism from books or watching TV.
Exactly! I am an educator and I had an incident with minority children (Black and Hispanic) using the N-word. I showed one of them a photograph of a young man would had been lynched. I told her that was the last word this man heard before he was lynched. Her parent filed an harassment charge against me.
@teachjacque debate on race is a topic that's never ending with no winners. I think you can just give topics on race as a home work and explain to students that this is a topic that's controversial. Smart and interested students will learn this way.
I saw the interview you did with this couple earlier. They didn’t listen one bit. The Dr. told them repeatedly that CRT isn’t taught in k-12 yet they kept asking her about it. They did not care at all. Their mind was already made up
There mind was already made up? Really cus it sounds like they are totally on board with the fact that its NOT being taught in schools & the idea that shielding students from TRUE history is appalling & bad, if you've listened to not only these 2 videos but all like 5 they've done that's very obvious so I'm not sure how you've got that conclusion whatsoever
I too was concerned, especially toward the end of this video when the wife basically tried to tell Ms. Moore that black people should be more like her and just "stop fighting and enjoy your time with your friends of the opposite color like I did when I was in college and by the way some black kids told me I didn't belong there so I'm just as much a victim as you". Sickening to see, especially in that awful church lady tone of voice. Yuk.
@@ar4203 I hear what you are saying, but I think that the reality is somewhere down the middle. I think that this couple made themselves vulnerable and opened up to hearing other points of view, however, like all of us they had a strong set of beliefs, ideas and viewpoints based on their past experiences. I few conversations is unlikely to change all of one's preconceived notion in one go. It's a process that takes many conversations, I'm sure that while they still have their biases they are going to think of things differently when they encounter different situations. I don't think they are totally on board with the fact that it is not being taught in school (and I get that) it's cognitive dissonance. For the past two years Fox news has been telling them that it is being taught in school, so while intellectually they can agree that it is not, it's going up against what they've been hearing on a regular. This couple reminds me of the journey my parents took from being homophobic to loving the gay couple across the street from us that was so lovely to being open and loving to all. Change doesn't happen overnight. You need a chance to think about it, and a chance to start changing your actions and your mind - the couple themselves often talked about needing time to process. Some of their questions and presumptions irked me and I think that is where Sailor Slay was coming from. For me, the best part of the conversation was the homework that Ms. Moore gave because if they do it (and I believe that they will), it will give them more insight and more of a chance to reflect and further develop.
My son was saddened after he watched the eyes on the prize series on PBS. He said he was sad and angry; he was a black person. He was 11. I also saw it around that age and was a victim of racist attacks physically and verbally. He is now 14 and has a great appetite for history and is very inquisitive about things that question morality. He often points out when I'm hypocritical as a parent, and when I show prejudice. He hopefully will be a better citizen for what He's learned.
@@serpentines6356 It seems for us all.... often life is not fair and no one can explain it all. We all may judge before we understand something or someone. We use the labels we were taught until we choose to level up our awareness. "Have you ever yelled a friend's name from afar, and come to find out... that's not your friend. #failuretorecognize To an 11 year old who learned about Anne Frank, Ghandi, and Harriet Tubman, I'm pretty sure he was upset about just what he said, "being Black". Even though throughout history atrocities were committed by every shade of human, he was pretty sad about what we choose to do to one another.
@@Btone33 Ah, right. One of the difficult parts of growing up - facing the human condition. While history is necessary to learn about, I wish more people would address our current criminality, murder rates, and black on black crime that devastates many of these ghetto areas. So many young lives lost. The lack of father's, dependence on gov't, victimhood memes. Not good. Even though, this is still the best country for opportunity to make a better life.
After watching ALL the videos.... These 2 still have a lot of work to do. I am glad they engaged in this opportunity but it often seemed like they were just trying to say the right thing versus absorbing the information that was being presented to them. I hope they did do the homework she gave them and a lot more. I hope that they recognize that the history that they learned is not far off ( Claudette Colvin is still alive among many others) and that there are still actions that they can take to make things right. And I really want someone to explain to the wife how sacred a space HBCUs are when she was met with those 2 moments of resistance... And how that is how a lot of BIPOC still experience the world today.
I appreciate that this couple is cordial and seemingly curious but after several of these conversations I can't help but get the sense that they're not saying how they REALLY feel and are being formal for the camera. They push back very little on the answers they are given and yet still identify as conservatives and haven't indicated any change in thinking. The whole thing is a little bizarre to me.
Yes, who knows what they are really thinking - I wouldn’t attempt to guess. But I do know that the role of the interviewer, typically, is to make themselves look dumber than they are. An interviewer’s job is to ask the questions that the audience would be asking. Interviewers typically ask questions they already know the answers to, but they are asking on behalf of audience members who don’t know squat. And rather than explaining what they know themselves, they are creating the space for their guests to share their expertise and insight.
This is not their first experience of the meeting all these people got involved about the CRT, They have already visited another Dr for the same interview, its a process they're going through in order to understand the reason behind the CRT.
Malcolm X was a great leader! I feel if we used violence to protect ourselves like Ukrainians are right now, we would have made a mark. Violence isn’t the answer, but, the only way to get a bully off you is to stand your ground. I hear them with the “love” idea. It’s not sustainable.
The reason why "white folks" only quote MLK and never quote Marcus Garvey or Malcolm X etc. is the same reason why/how "black racism" impacts whites as a group... FEAR 😱 😅
They love the " I have a dream." MLK, They often don't realize that in his Mountain Top sermon that he started out by saying " To be non-violent is to be non-existent." They only like the non-violent version.
Respectability politics hasn’t really helped us. This is what Dr. MLK was promoting by dressing well and speaking eloquently to White counterparts. It may have helped push policy and legislation, but it doesn’t stop the power dynamic of the America’s racist society. White people love to bring him up because they think he’s a pacifist - a gentle Black men amongst all the angry ones. Many white people have told me, "it’s just so nice we can actually have a conversation without all this anger, ya know?" They don’t wanna address the anger without gaslighting the oppressed person.
It’s definitely not sustainable. Whites have a problem knowing they came from us. We can never , ever, form a jointed love and support interest. If only some of my Black folk knew this!
I applaud anyone who calmly tries to ascertain truth. But this whole set-up? Black people needing to reassure and justify themselves to worried White people? Assure them that Critical Race Theory isn't some nefarious plot to "separate" us, but a way of analyzing the effects of legalized racism? (What's incredible to me is that this is in any way a controversial idea.) The interviewers have a White Savior idea of themselves - they're on the side of righteousness and see history as a simple March of Progress. ("Racism was THEN; we're over it now!") They seem to struggle with the idea that Black people may have a completely different experience of life in this country. It's sooooooo dispiriting and grating. What I'd LIKE to see is this couple in the spotlight, for a change, and Blacks being the ones to ask the questions.
I've watched all the interviews with this couple and.. yeesh. They act receptive, but mostly they want a cookie for being The Ones who Listen. 🙄Because the prob with the world today is the Divide blablabla. The fact that they have issues with the IDEA of CRT says it all.
@@bohemianmermaid Totally. The way she says something, then smiles huge, then drops the smile reminds me so much of this religious creep: ua-cam.com/video/9LtF34MrsfI/v-deo.html
@@brandybobandy2194 Wow! I just watched that video. Ugh, this is beyond cringe worthy 😬😵💫 Looking at his face and hearing his voice, I get this vibe ....👹🔥🔥🔥😳 There's something about this couple just gives me a creepy "FAKE" feeling, especially the lady, and he's probably even worse behind closed doors...he seems very good at playing the "GODLY GOOD PERSON" Like watchin Rosemary's Baby,😵💫😒 As for the women with all the CORRECT history, she's AMAZING!❤️ I could listen to her all day long
I don't care for this couple. I am really not understanding what they are missing. I also, do not believe anything that comes out of their mouths. I don't believe that anyone has touched them. Their whole "I went to an HBCU", and "I minor in whatever the hell", yet I am still not getting it bothers me.
Wait, this same couple? How many more experts do you need to talk with to understand such a simple concept? Like, what is this bullshit? Why do they keep pretending they don't understand the concept? They're just bullshiting. Playing that old racist bullshit of pretending to not understand what's happening around them when they know exactly what's happening around them. They'd be a perfect fit for the show - The Watchmen, for sure.
The pro CRT people are the ones lying through their teeth. If they were honest they would state CRT for what it is. Racist, "hate-whitey", anti-western, anti-capitalist poison.
I'm watching this series and I am learning. Learning things that were not taught to me in school...only in life. When I first heard the wife speak of being confronted twice at her HBCU, I had a thought...actually a few thoughts. She seems to use it as an example of how she CHOOSES to not dwell on her perceived "negativity" of the interaction. I wonder if she ever thought of 1. How people of color must have felt, and still feel, when they are in a predominantly white school...and were tormented and tortured? 2. Maybe the students telling her that she doesn't belong there feel like she has taken away from a person of color, or she is literally desecrating something that belongs to them. I don't know, I could be way off but I would think that people of color have been denied anything to actually "belong" to them by white people forever. To them, she may feel like an intruder. It almost comes across to me that she is saying, "I got over those two instances of feeling uncomfortable, so people of color should dwell on the positive, not the negative" or she thinks those two instances qualify her as having camaraderie. I wonder if she has thought of how she has the CHOICE to not dwell on the negativity, people of color weren't given a CHOICE at all. This country has come miles but we still have miles to go.
I've watched a few of these and think they do a good job overall. Mrs. Glasgow has used the two occasions at TSU (two incidents in two years I believe) where she experienced discrimination as a minority in every episode. She says in this episode that the experience made her focus on the love people have for each other. I wonder what her take away would be if those experiences were more frequent, and over a longer span (maybe a lifetime).
Yeah-it's really cringe how often she refers to this experience, as if to point out how magnanimous she is for still considering her overall experience at an HBCU as a positive thing. She's so obsessed with her own self-congratulatory narrative, it makes me think she's not at all 'sitting with any discomfort'. Also, the grasping for members of the clergy involvement in the Freedom Riders is interesting. I suppose it's practical to give these people some comfort in identifying with those who stood on the right side of history, but I think it's more important to imagine that you might not...and what you'd need to do currently to get to a place where you can be that person.
I watched this whole series and it's inciteful but at the same time it requires work as she said. this couple is still in the mode of how can we make this easy. How can we just wrap it all up in Dr. King's peaceful view of struggle but as she said read all of Dr. King and you will see he's very truthful of what was happening. You must teach not just the African American side but the white side. The perpetrators, instigators, and implementors of the injustice, inequality, violence and hate. WE have to tell the history with all it's warts and we must tell American history by telling the story of the Native American, African American and the colonizers side by side with all the warts.
@@serpentines6356 it's about the laws. If CRT is evil, it's evil because of the thousands of federal, state, city laws and local codes that were created, voted on and implemented with extreme violence. THATs the evil. The horror. It'd the laws created based solely on skin color to institute inequality, segregation, and injustice.
@@jsmith1277311 Yes, but that's not the case anymore. It's not good to stew constantly in victimhood. There are different kinds of privileges. Many blacks had it better if they came from a good family than if white coming from an abusive family. CRT is racist, and evil. Stop blaming past things for racist BS that is going on now.
@@serpentines6356 have you read or researched the laws that were created in this countryjust to regulate the bodies and movement of the African slave during colonization and the slave trade? There were thousands of laws in every state, city and local area that were created just to regulate some part of the African slave life and km not even talking about the jim crow laws which were still violently enforced in my lifetime. The geography of the America is enforced by legal laws based on slavery. The wealth and power of this countries foundation was built by the legalization of African slaves. How can you call it victimization when it's MY history?? I want MY American history told and taught. Why should I only hear your romantic version about yourself? Ignorance is not an excuse. Tell it all, especially tell about the laws created, passed and violently enforced created specifically for African and people with dark skin color. Tell the truth. We're doing it anyway and we don't need your approval to do so.
She is so good. She's a heavy hitter, she goes back and grabs those things that you mentioned and you thought oh wow I hit a home run, she takes it and peels it like a banana. I think the misses is understanding yet not quite processing what she's understanding, she's thinking this is deeper then I planned. She's so shallow. They don't give me any hope, I'm sorry. I would love for the teacher to tell us what she truly thought about these two.
These talks need to stop. This is done to antagonize these black professionals. We did this in the 1960s, 70s and 80s. Let’s not waste any more time in these demands to justify our existence and experience. Give them a few books and move on. Educate YOUR DAMN self.
I don't understand why these same two people keep asking black people about CRT Prof.Carol Anderson told them CRT isn't taught in grade school , only on the college level. WHAT WILL THEY GO BACK TO OTHER WHITES,AND SAT CRT, IS TAUGHT IN ALL SCHOOLS.TELL THEM TO TALK TO WHITE FOLKS, ABOUT WHAT THEIR AFRAID OF.
CRT as a subject in of itself isn't taught K-8, but its tenets of DEI are implemented across the country, as well as its framework of exposing ways to end systemic oppression.
These 2 have been giving off a, "What more do y'all want?", vibe in the interviews I've seen. They look like they want to listen and that they are curious but the question carry that vibe.
Have to be honest, the ‘implicit bias expert’ and this CRT expert really haven’t convinced me at all. In fact I’m pretty sure I could debunk at least half of what the crt expert said in this video
@@mike-ws3jlSad that you have to ask. No real Christian would support the hatred that Trump spreads every time he opens his mouth. How can a person say they are a Christian but support a person void of character, pathological liar, unapologetic racist like Trump? This does not make sense to people that really care about other people and try to do the right thing.
"I don't focus on those two bad situations" "I DO, however, highlight them for every person I talk to on camera, to reinforce how clearly I can't be considered racist at all. Yes I voted for Trump both times"
@@serpentines6356 Racism is never okay and should be corrected wherever found. Show me a recent clip of Biden saying anything about an entire country similar to "they're rapists", "Kung Flu", or retweeting known white supremacists and neo-nazis. We'll wait.
@@Ryan-ob6gp "If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black" --Biden I love how he throws the "ain't" in there. Hillary did that too. Love the bad English, speaking down to blacks. Dems would have gone crazy if Trump said anything of that sort. Don't know where Trump tweeted about white supremacists. I don't pay attention to tweets. But, I don't care much about what politicians say, more what they do. And Biden is ruining things. Energy development, which is a major part of our economy. our border, Iran situation, weak on Russia, part of the evil WEF "Great Reset" plans, etc. F him. And them. They care nothing for us, for our liberty. Trump at least cared that we work, and have our liberties. Dems cared nothing for small businesses, and shut them down. The backbone of America. I didn't hear Trump say anything about a whole country being "rapists " Trump was right that when we allow tons of illegals across our borders that includes criminals, which includes rapists. I thought "Kung Fu" was funny. The Chinese gov't is evil, so they deserve to be the butt of a joke.
I don't get white people who don't think Juneteenth is about them or for them. I am a white person. My ancestors fought for the union. Juneteenth is something they helped make happen, and it's one of the greatest, purest goods that my family can lay claim to. Juneteenth *is* for me and about me. (And also any excuse for a barbecue and a day off is good enough for me. I'll have to check out that strawberry soda thing.)
CRT obviates the need for any thought, word or act of racism as proof of their presumed verdict. All they need is their preferred race measuring less favorably than another. Regardless of the cause: they declare their favored race to be victims of the other. Then they would use real government enforced discrimination in response to their presumed discrimination; altering laws, policies and practices to favor their preferred race. All for the stated purpose of forcibly making the measurements between races identical. The operative question is whether you support using government force to implement racial discrimination. All the rest is academic. My answer is no.
@@RobbieBishop She WAS a minority in those moments and she experienced being yelled at explicitly because of her skin color. Jimi would say she’s experienced.
CRT is a sociological theory, not a history class. No one opposes the teaching of historical facts no matter how ugly. CRT uses a method of tit for tat-their theme is the only way to combat racism is to apply it.
Eisenhower making people who lived near. Concentration camps is similar to the liberal approach to approaching race relations. We all have a lot to learn, and if we can't agree that bad things have happened and are still happening, how can we make things better.
at about 46min - he says "let's face it, in America, we haven't faced real calamity" pretty sure he just missed the entire point !! Clearly slavery and the following 'hidden slavery' is a calamity for Americans, IF he truly believed we are all one people
OMG. Ms more is what i love in an educator. she goes after the student to get them engaged into learning. you see how these parents are now student and to be honest children once again trying to gain knowledge and not shunning away from the history of america. this country of ours did some good but we also did some bad and thus we can learn from the bad and becomes a better and more perfect union by learning it. to grow and become better we must understand. not just know of the past. it is how we strive to stay better and push back on the evil ways of well those who would rather power then equal and fair rights.
Wow, I love her. Ms./Mrs. Moore is one of the best communicators on this history I have ever heard. And I love that she challenges with her own questions and gives "homework" to read and learn more. I mean, it makes sense given her career position at this center, but it doesn't mean I am any less impressed by her.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Everything she stated during this interview is RELEVANT & factual. She listened and was engaged. But clearly wants them to see past the "religious aspect." The cover up, the chains(we're suppose to break, right?)the barbaric way of brainwashing, the emotional manipulation used to overlook FACTS, TRUTH & an abundant realm of untold history that will not be taught in history books. ...So critical race theory will be effective, while taught in schools. Why is it okay to see and "assume" the struggles and inhumane treatment our, (OUR) 👋🏾ancestors endure(d) throughout THOUSANDS of years of history; we didn't CREATE. But not okay to those against Critical Race Theory; to know the deplorable & systematic "hidden" truth as to why?!!!
Probably because it was becoming clearly evident that the Glasgows were not getting the point at all and trying to impose their white-centered perspective on Ms. Moore. I can see why she was bristling. I was cringing throughout, esp at the end when the Mrs. Glasgow gave her little speech about what a "victim" she was when she went to black college. UGH.
Is CRT a way to avoid having to teach actual Black history in education. Because last I heard there is the engagement of teaching Asian History. I am not a parent but I am a 42yr old AAmerician who has lived through the 80s till now and I've seen things that continue to show me that things may have changed but not much.
No. The strategic, "brain trust," of the right-wing in the U.S. have introduced Critical Race Theory as the latest boogeyman to scare the FOX News/MAGA/AM talk radio crowd into voting Republican. It's just the latest iteration of Willie Horton/Jeremiah Wright/AntiFa etc. So, the narrative that, "CRT is indoctrinating our white children to hate themselves," is a fig leaf for the same racist tropes that the far right have been using to divide & conquer since Reconstruction, i.e. "reverse racism" with a new name. To be more specific, the people funding & directing the modern right-wing movement are a mixture of old money elitist bigots, authoritarian muckrakers & Christian Dominionists. They have different reasons for arriving at them, but they share many goals: one of which is to defund public education altogether, leading to the elimination of public schools. The Christian fanatics believe God has mandated that they be in control of all education. [Google: "Seven Mountains Influence," for a thorough explanation] The fascists rightly understand that properly supported public education helps create critical thinkers, which in turn leads to anti-authoritarian outcomes, aka democracy. P.S. I'm not sure why you mentioned the teaching of Asian History, but I would caution against falling into the traps that the racist system lays out for us. The actual people in power are those who control the purse strings - it's not the politicians, police, clergy, school administrators, etc.; they're merely tools to be used. It's also not other ethnic minorities who have been historically oppressed in this country. The Kochs, Murdochs & Musks of this world want us to hate one another; they need us to direct our ire & resentment at one another because it stops us from aiming at them.
I don't mean to demand and prescribe what you should do with your lives, Bart and Coley Glasgow, but have a few questions for you: 1. Do you realise that you are unique in your views on races because of your history in mixing with other races? 2. Have you considered taking your real and honest approach to issues to the political arena (i.e. standing for political office?) People like you may be the last hope of saving America from a ideologically polarized, racially polarized, toxic and explosive country. I think it your duty to America a different path from the status quo. If not for yourselves surely for your children, grandchildren and nation. Apologies again if I sound preachy.
I love how Obama statedcthis is the best place for young blacks to be. He was very right about that. Too bad so many people are in the victimhood cult.
CRT is a type of philosophy or ideology based on Marxism. Many people believe children should not be taught to follow a political ideology e.g. Trump's ideology or CRT.
Who could be against making Juneteenth a federal holiday? That question has an answer if you really want to know. Start by looking at the public record of the people that did vote against it and then maybe vote them out of office.
After reading several of the comments below, I would have to agree with those of you who are, at the very least, some what skeptical about this couple's -- umm - sincerity??? But what I really enjoyed about this one is how Ms. Moore turned the tables on them. In the other two videos that I've watched, the couple has conducted the interviews. But Nicole takes charge here. I'd love to know what her education is and how she became so steeped in ALL of the history that's housed in that Center.
For someone who “doesn’t focus on the bad things” that happened to her as a minority she sure does bring it up enough. Only twice in her college years was she made to feel unwelcome and she can’t seem to let it go. Hmmm
Did you know that RosacParks was Afro-Indigenous? I learned that at a powwow I went to a few years ago. I met her relative…who had the family pix and enrollment to prove it. I was like wow…there’s so much we don’t know about our history here in this land….and around the world where diasporans from Africa were taken by force.
The title includes Critical Race Theory (Marxist philosophy), but the discussion is about teaching Black History. The title suggests that the producers made a common error, confusing Black History and Critical Race Theory.
These two are taking the right path. It will be hard and they will have days of heavy thinking and guilt. But it is up to them to use that experience to grow. Hopefully they do, but it will be hard.
It's amazing that these folks didn't seem to learn the factual history of America throughout their life or education. I sure hope that they're learning a LOT through these interviews/ discussions.
That’s the number one red flag when talking to a conservative, the only civil rights leader they can call on by name is MLK Jr. the only speech they’re familiar with is I Have a Dream. They like the idea of MLK’s accomplishments, yet fight tooth and nail against everything he fought for by voting for the people who would take us back to 1960 if they had the chance.
@@dustinjoeypace 100%! ironically enough, it was MLK Jr that encouraged me to read more into Socialism when I was a teen, that and the labor movement. Conservatives just use MLK JR to appear less evil than they are. The BLM protests in 2000 were VERY much like the civil rights movements of the 60's... We saw how they reacted/ responded to those yet they still like to pull out one line from the "I have a dream" speech.... Mostly to mischaracterize its meaning.
@@CaptPeon History is repeating itself, sadly. As we have been warned it will do. These people have always existed in America. They just hold different signs and (literally) wear a different hat. The language becomes more coded, more veiled, but the hate is all the same. The racists in power on the right are slowly creeping toward getting angry white people comfortable saying the quiet part out loud.
@@CaptPeon exactly. We shouldn’t be having to do this all over again. Blood was shed and lives were lost fighting for the bare minimum of the Civil Rights Act. Now, in 2022, we’re inching closer to having to do it again. I can’t imagine the pain black folks are feeling over this. My daughter is biracial and I fear for the world she’s inheriting.
These are the same parents that sat down with Carol Anderson and gained nothing. They used her to answer their questions that they already knew the answer to. He is an educated lawyer, stop the bs. Why are WE taking our time to teach the very people responsible for our circumstances of the consequences of the systems they created and support to this day? This is not it!
I just read Grant, about how he not only freed slaves, but instituted the 15th Ammendment, the Ku Kluz Klan Act and other aspects of ther Reconstruction error, basically the very start of civil rights before they were crushed and Jim Crow set in. Good read, good context.
WOW!!! this is the BEST, GIVE and TAKE, out there that 👁️'ve heard on CRITICAL RACE THEORY. to question, answer, and state your opinion/thoughts freely is the EPITOME of 'COME LET US REASON TOGETHER'. Then we can PRAY, TOGETHER and ask GOD for understanding on how we should work TOGETHER.✍️💕👁️ Moreover, as the interviewer pointed out in trying to protect our CHILDREN from all Evil, we often underestimate their ABILITY to decide for THEMSELVES, what way they go and/or what is acceptable behaviour on LiFE'S JOURNEY.👁️
This is the second video that I’ve seen with quote and quote parents skepticism pertaining to CRT. Make it make since as to why it’s the same couple whose in a Q&A.
@@Wesley-rn7oc Quote means to cite something as a form of proof. Which is why the run on words validates my question. And to your ignorance of using quotation marks which is a noun used to either mark the beginning and end of a title which my comment is not or quoted passage which again my comment is not or to indicate that a word or phrase is regarded as slang, which in context is neither. Clearly you no nothing about writing or it’s forms. Having said that be sure to fact check your punctuations within a question, comment or statement. Smh
His questions are "direct examination" questions: questions that prompt her to tell her story. Not sure what to make of it. Learning this history is so critical.
The cognitive dissonance is really heavy, even down to these parents' tone initially. Per usual, the receiver of all the injustices of the country has to tolerate the tone to avoid "offending them". This is painful to watch BUT at least they are trying? It's a start? It really is bothersome how the "receiver" of all the American crap has to have more concern about the feelings of those who have always had leverage moving through life. Life is hard for everyone yes, but it's crazy how the blinders are preferred over pushing through the "uncomfortable" to get to the other side especially for "christians". All in all, it's a move in the right direction. Please let's get over this limiting social construct.
You as a lawyer do the samething when you present a case in court you put words a certain way to make the case to seem worst then it is just to win ( as you say the way the media does) when you're trying to protect a guilty man.
@Min. 14:23 @Genesis 12:3 = Matthew 25:31-46 Abraham's Descendants Jesus's Brethren goats sheep Matthew 6:20-21. (20. But lay up for yourselves treasures in Heaven...21. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. God bless you!!!
It’s a good thing, overall, but painful to watch their growth getting mired in cultural bias. I hope that other folks who haven’t given as much effort as these 2 can be sparked by these first steps. I’m sure to some, these 2 will seem fully enlightened. Keep trying, keep trying to educate/ illuminate!
"More important, as critical race theorists we adopt a stance that PRESUMES that racism has contributed to ALL contemporary manifestations of group advantage and disadvantage along RACIAL lines, including differences in income, imprisonment,health, housing, education, political representation, and military service. Our history calls for this PRESUMPTION." "Words That Wound: Critical Race Theory, Assaultive Speech, and the First Amendment" by Matsuda, Lawrence III, Delgado, and KIMBERLE' WILLIAMS CRENSHAW Those are their words from their intellectual papers: It is the entire foundation of the premise. CRT promotes the notion that the fact that a group is measurably superior is proof that everybody in that group is guilty; and, that a group being inferior is proof that everybody in that group is a victim. Further: this principle projects through time; asserting that what happened to the long dead projects onto the guilt or victimhood of the living; even if the living never experienced it at all........... CRT uses history and statistics to justify using government force to implement racial discrimination.
That’s not at all what that passage means. Honestly, that’s so far from any reasonable interpretation of the text that I feel comfortable accusing you of blatantly making up your “analysis” to stoke the flames of outrage.
Unfortunately there are teachers who don’t fight hard enough to teach more than just black history month. Today if it’s not in a teachers union contact teachers are just happy teaching reading, writing and math.
This is going to be hard for me, but I'm going to watch to the end. At 29:ish...he asks her a question. I don't hear an answer...She seems to just be saying we are trying to avoid painful truths in our history. Evading answering the question. Parents don't want their babies segregated in schools, lined up by color. I'm listening but discouraged. You're just not being fully truthful. This leads me to distrust your intentions. I LOVE the celebrating the amazing souls that took a stand. If we want to be fully exposed should we teach the children about the Africans that sold their people into slavery? All the countries that engaged in it? That still engage in slavery. Let's celebrate the USA for fighting to free themselves of this ugliness. Finally, yes, I agree with the lady that looks to concentrate on the positives of her experience, the love and coming together. Again, I don't think anyone is against June- teenth. I think it's an awesome day to honor and celebrate.
@MichelleJ, me again. To be fair, there was a lot to his question which is why she probably wanted to take a minute to digest it all. I agree, those exercises which divide kids up by color can be problematic. Getting white kids to apologize to their black peers is also a problem, but making blanket laws which have teachers concerned about whether they can speak basic truths in the class is not the solution. " If we want to be fully exposed should we teach the children about the Africans that sold their people into slavery? All the countries that engaged in it? That still engage in slavery." Absolutely! It is about teaching truths and giving context. The lawyer speaks of critical thinking and about not telling kids what to think but rather just expose them to the truths. I agree to not telling students what to think - that should not be what an education is - education should be more about discovery, but a lot of the times, students are just not exposed to the truths. Exposing kids to truths and ideologies is not telling kids how to think. I went to a Catholic school and World Religions was a required course. We had to learn about Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, the different types of Christianity etc. ... they were not trying to get us to convert but rather have an understanding of other religions so that we could be more knowledgeable and open minded about others.
@@rstraker72 what your saying here, I completely agree with. Absolutely children are able to appreciate our terrible past, and with a focus on what we've done right, and how we can continue to build on our advances is a win win. However, I don't trust our public school system to tackle this. There have been to many examples of awful teachings.
@@malibu405 Absolutely! Public school isn't enough. Parents should be taking their kids to museums to learn about slavery and neo-slavery as soon as it was abolished, and then the Jim Crowe laws and Redlining that legally enforced inequality. But as the woman said in one of the other videos, she had never heard of the Freedom Riders! It's critical that this history makes it into the classroom of every child in the country so that even if it's not taught perfectly, they still get exposed to the original facts and they can at least make up their own mind! Only when people are kept ignorant can they be most easily swayed by false information (which I know you agree with!) Thanks for reading my comment :)
@@malibu405 I was wrong, she said it around the 10 minute mark that she hadn't heard the history of the Freedom Riders. I learned about them in my public school and I would be so mad if that history was kept from me! Even if it's taught poorly at least I know this event happened and I can research it later myself.
CRT discards the concepts fought for during the civil rights era. In fact, criticizing the message of MLK is a strategy of CRT advocates. They believe that the advances of the Civil Rights movement were anything but, and that the push for equal protection under the law only reinforces the advantages that whites had in society. CRT is not an honest discussion about overcoming racism. CRT embraces segregationist ideals through the concept of intersectionality and attempts to reinforce prejudices through identity politics. They cannot discuss history because they never actually learned it. They cannot discuss morality because they reject the philosophy that founded it. CRT, like all critical theory, is only "useful" for CRITICIZING A SYSTEM. It does not offer any answers. It does not even criticize in a logical manner (making it pointless for real discussion). When called out for hypocrisy, CRT Advocates will tell you they don't adhere to logic and reason; they simply tell "stories", and you are welcome to believe them or not. They reject truth and merit, and only rely on "evidence" when it is convenient to their claims. Essentially, they have no intellectual integrity, and they are actually PROUD OF IT. They speak solely to emotion and rhetoric, and therefore, cannot actually defend the positions they take, instead, relying on surface-level videos like this one, meant to be a gateway into a defunct belief system. CRT is concerned with dismantling power structures they do not control. It is ONLY about power. The tactics used in these videos are just the snare, useful for people that don't really want to understand the goals of those that push this ideology. Simply read the Wikipedia on CRT as a starting point. You will be shocked at what you find.
@@maurygoldblat8982 Did you really “Laugh or Loud” or is that just something you say when you feel socially awkward? I didn’t disagree, because like you, I’m not an expert of CRT, nor do I feel transposing a paragraph or two is sufficient to disprove an entire theory. What I do know is that the theory of race, specifically “white supremacy” is ingrained into every single fiber of this nation. It was codified into our laws, and used to racially stratify this nation. In my experience, people who REALLY know what they’re talking about are able to reduce very complex ideas into simple terms. America cannot be discussed or defined without race. Our laws are implicitly racist and are directed to serve the white population. Our history as a nation is horrifically racist and has been harmful to its black citizens. We know that every single black leader of our movements has been targeted and discredited by this nation. Which is why an understanding of race is critical to ANYONE who wants to understand the pathological conditions which the blacks of this nation seem to find themselves in.
I notice that your knowledge on the topic of CRT seems to be acquired through non reputable sources, thus is not much more than hearsay. Your opinions are therefore poorly informed and formulated at best. What do the people who have done the research on the topic say? Even if you disregard modern scholars and their work, you cannot disregard the experience of blacks in this nation, which seem to say in unison “we are treated as second class citizens”. Prior to Derrick Bell, Alan Freeman, and Richard Delgado, people like Du Bois were expressing very similar thoughts, which SEEMS to lend credibility to the works of later scholars. What do you think? You’re obviously a white man, who thinks blacks ought to “pull themselves up by their own bootstraps”. So, do you think blacks in this nation have been treated fairly? Do you believe systematic racism died with the passage of the civil rights act and voting act of ‘64 & ‘65? What is your take on the issues of race in America?
@@IAmNoOne281 I chuckled. I showed your post to my niece and she laughed at you as well. I used to practice law, and I currently teach law courses. I have taken multiple classes on CRT and have read multiple books on the subject. I wrote an analysis on Lipsitz’s The Possessive Investment in Whiteness in law school. I am more qualified to speak on the subject than most, but I would be embarrassed to call myself “an expert” in any subject as stupid as CRT. The few paragraphs I wrote were more than enough to shed light on CRT, and provided a simple pathway for people to begin investigating the subject on their own. The “Theory” is actually just a lens with which to view history and public policy. The method is not particularly compelling in my opinion, but maybe it impresses you? You believe (KNOW LOL) “White Supremacy is ingrained into every single fiber of this nation.” How exactly? Every Fiber? LMAO. It was used to stratify the people of the country. We also used to have slavery and Jim Crow. Times change. Try to keep up. The ideas of CRT are not complex (for me at least), but I am glad that you appreciated the simple terms I used! America can be both discussed AND defined without race. But… race has played, and continues to play a significant role in American society… SADLY. How are our laws Implicitly Racist??? How do they “serve white people”? This one should be good… You know… considering I was a lawyer and currently teach law. I can’t wait to be enlightened. American history is full of terrible treatment towards black people. No doubt. If by “Our Movements” you mean CRT, then they should be discredited. Race Baiters should be ashamed of themselves. MLK is the ONLY AMERICAN with a national holiday btw. Black people have received a raw deal in American history. It has placed them at a socio-economic disadvantage today. To claim that the sins of the past are continued today through “systemic racism” or “unconscious bias” is an incredibly weak argument. The only racial laws that exist in America today are designed to prop up minority groups. I didn’t cite any sources. What would make you think they are not reputable? My “sources” are just as good as the ones you have cited up to this point LOL. You have no basis for saying my opinions are poorly informed. At least Wikipedia has thousands of people monitoring it everyday. (though i did not use it as a source, I pulled from it for convenience :) ) You have no reference for your statements! How hypocritical. You say I cannot disregard the experience of Black Americans, but you are quick to disregard my experience. Interesting. I have read Bell and Delgado (not Freeman). I had never read WEB, but I am familiar with his arguments. I have always preferred Booker T.
Am I obviously a white man? Why do you think this? Because I disagree with you? Or because UA-cam says my name is Maury Goldblat? Everyone should “pull themselves up by their own bootstraps”. You disagree? Blacks have been treated very unfairly. I am glad America stopped. I believe racism exists. I do not believe it is “ingrained in every fiber of American society”. I believe all members of society must deal with racist sentiments, especially those coming from advocates of CRT! Ultimately, being racist is a bad thing. We should do everything we can to overcome the divisions of race. The best way to do this is to reduce the importance we place upon it in America… NOT MAGNIFY IT. Let’s say I was Jewish… and my family faced the horrors of the Holocaust. Should I continue to blame others, or restrict myself or others, or SHAME OTHERS because of a past injustice they had nothing to do with? Should I constantly harp on and accuse others of racism because I am part of a minority group? Should I be resentful or jealous of the success of others because I feel they had a leg up on life that my family (who might have immigrated to America as refugees) did not start out with in this country? No. Of course not. I treat people with the respect they deserve. I would pull myself up by my bootstraps. They should too.
But I have been denied access to employment. When I was in college in Elizabeth City, NC (1985) I went to apply for a job and I was told that by the manager that they had already met their quota and I need not apply. I was devastated.
@@magnoliasburden4112 not damn thing. 11Alive has been trying to enlighten this couple by let them speak with all kinds of educated blk experts on the topic. They did not come to learn or to listen
Race shouldn't be but it was. A as a result, it has impacts what we observe today. If we teach history we should teach it accurately. How we got to where we are is important.
CRT says that natural differences between individuals (which do not benefit their favored race) are proof of crime and justification for government force.
CRT examines how systemic racism and racial biases influenced in how some laws were created and how they are enforced. It has nothing to do with biology or how you put it "natural differences". Please get educated.
@23:15 "I don't see anybody who can be against teaching the truth".... have you seen these school board meetings?
Edit: what she said about "discomfort pushed us to grow" is exactly why we should be honest about history. So we can grow.
This is what I always say about the discomfort of teaching history in schools. My grandparents and my parents as well as myself. Had to endure that discomfort. I was born in 1964 and I truly understand the hate as well as the hurt.
@@TJ-gt1zz I agree. I used to be reluctant to be candid with children about history. Then I realized that the children living during that time didn't have the luxury of choice.
@Jamedra A My Mother made sure that we knew history. She didn't sugarcoat anything. She often spoke about her experiences, as well as my grandparents experiences.
@@TJ-gt1zzThat's a blessing. sometimes they're so traumatized they won't talk about it.
Who do you think is not wanting true history taught? Your not really listening to those parents speaking out at the school board meetings. Noone is saying they don't want true history taught. SMH. Your lying or blinded.
Years ago we went to the African American Museum in D.C. It was difficult to watch white people who were there. Some of them were deeply moved and some became very emotional. It's the same way I felt when I went to the Holocaust Museum. I encourage people to understand that history is good bad and ugly.
And I’m sure you saw nothing that encouraged you to hate White people, or make someone feel guilty. Telling the truth about history is not about trying to cause hate. I love what the museum director said, these sources speak for themselves, therefore, she doesn’t have to inject her opinion. The same with the Civil War, there are documents from the primary source writers who explains why was the war being fought by the South. As you said, it’s good & bad, but we must teach it, so we can learn from it, not deny it! Somebody might say, I understand why others don’t want to honor that person, because he’s only famous because he fought to maintain slavery. That was his only contribution. Teaching real history helps us today!
I’ve watched a few of these, and my takeaways are that these Black people (mostly women, in the ones I’ve watched so far) are giving these people sooooo much information.
But I want to hear from the white couple. They’re just agreeing and saying what they need to say to avoid conflict. I want them to answer some questions: what is it that you don’t agree with? It’s been established that kids aren’t being taught critical race theory, and that conservatives are really worried about the truth being taught in schools. I want to see a video with them saying what they’re so scared of. What do they disagree with?
Fundamentally it's all about control of information. This couple has been thoroughly educated (at least as much as necessary) out of the conservative culture war bubble of thought that is "critical race theory is being taught in schools", and I'm sure that, in private - and very broadly on camera - they're happy to admit that they now realize that isn't the case. And that's really nice that these two hyperreligious conservatives have perspective on *one* conservative culture war issue. But these are two of 80 million. The game is the big picture messaging, what 'feels' correct. Whether you are 'pure' enough in your political Beliefs to accept the messaging being handed down. The concept of "Truth" to a GOP'er has naught to do with objective reality, and solely whether it lines up with what Fox and Newsmax say. All topics *must* have two sides, "Good" or "Evil". and if you're not completely on the "Good" side... Look how confused this poor man is towards the end of this video when he asks what the answer might be that 'the media' seems to have blown CRT out of any realm of what it actually is. He genuinely can't conceive of a news source that doesn't sensationalize and emotionally load topics to the point of parody.
Looking into things in detail like this is very 'woke' IE uncool, to be mocked and derided. CRT is the GOP's current wedge issue for defunding public schools. The strategic messaging is incredibly transparent: "Public school is Government telling your children they are Evil Whites, so we must defund Evil Public schools and encourage Good Freedom in private schools, where Evil Government has no oversight of the curriculum and messaging". This guy repeats what she says about 'learning how to think, not what to think - to demand evidence and primary sources', but outside his law practice he absolutely does not believe in or live by any of that.
This couple aren't going to run for office, loudly yelling into a mic that today's conservatism appears to be based solely on outrage over fictional slights, and advocating for real policy ideas and legislating with their colleagues instead of obstruction and distractions. These folks have no disgreements on CRT for the cameras, but I guarantee they still 'feel' like they need more control over what their kids are taught in public school - and there are still a dozen other faux outrageous claims, like Dr Seuss being banned, that will keep them voting reliably conservative. Ask any one of them how gas prices were so low in the middle of 2020 compared to now at the start of a war with Russia - I guarantee none will highlight supply and demand. Ask if Keystone XL had been approved, would gas prices be appreciably lower now? I bet they would all say yes, absolutely. Ask them how higher mileage standards for cars and trucks would be a good thing - I bet they've got nothing. Ask what is the problem with trans people using the bathroom they identify with - whether Trump made any money off being president - is the southern border open for easy immigration - The problem is that they fundamentally and very emotionally disagree with Objective Reality - that's how far astray they've gone in the last 20 years.
@@Ryan-ob6gp Very good post
@@Ryan-ob6gp Brilliant 👏🏽🙌🏽
Shanda, Your comment really gets to the heart of the problem.
I’ve noticed that the couple keep repeating their view that “all kinds” of people participated in the civil rights movement. They seem to be trying to paper over the whole reason for the movement in the first place - that most white people were violently oppressing Black people. They’ve both been eager to establish their connections to the right side of history. I would be curious to learn about their ancestors. Were all of them also on the right side of history?
My siblings and I recently had a long conversation with my aunt, our family’s amateur genealogist, about several family members we hadn’t known much about before. We are all white and mostly descended from immigrants who came to the Great Plains in the late 19th and early 20th century. But there was a branch - mostly ignored because we’re connected to it through a father who abandoned his wife and children. That branch goes back to the 1700’s at least.
My aunt wanted to focus on an oblique connection to Abraham Lincoln, but she disengaged when my siblings and I tried to explore other ancestors who, although too small-time to run forced labor camps themselves, nonetheless accepted the system of enslaved laborers.
If we can’t even acknowledge all the truth of history, how will we ever reconcile?
There is a follow up video with them saying how they feel after everything they've learned.
It is amazing how little these two individuals who grew up in the South know very little about what was taking place all around them
It is easy to be ignorant when you choose to be ignorant.
Them playing dumb is definitely their best weapon.
They know, they don't want Black History taught or implemented into American History as it should be.
With segregation, how would they know? I grew up in rural Upstate NY with no black folks. We had one mulatto family... anyway a bad turn of events lead our family to move where there were a lot of migrant workers which then were primarily black. A classmate's name was Darlene, mine Marlene & the teacher would confuse us & we'd giggle becuz she was black & I wasn't. My friend & I started playing together at recess & my own cousins said racist things. My parents were "soft racists". If that turn in our lives hadn't happened, I'd probably stayed ignorant & maybe racist. I was 7 or 8 & it left a lasting positive effect on me & my view of race. Some ppl go their whole lives without interacting with other races or classes or nationalities. Probably what happened with this couple - they truly never were exposed.
@@drinkwater9891 that was when she was 18. I'm amazed her parents let her go actually. I'd say she's 40 or 50 so she came up with no internet & probably no cable TV. I'd actually like to hear her story. Plus she was newly married when she went there, so her social life was probably a lot different than many freshmen in college. Not making excuses for her, but not gonna crucify someone who chose to go to HBCU back then either. This is the 3rd episode I've seen. Curious to see the end result & if she & her hubby have any closing thoughts. Hopefully they'll be proponents on their local school board for teaching 'race friendly' curriculum. And metro Atlanta has a lot of ethnic groups that need diversity training as well.
It's a different learning about racism when you're being beaten up, threatened with imprisonment, police dogs biting you versus reading about racism from books or watching TV.
Exactly! I am an educator and I had an incident with minority children (Black and Hispanic) using the N-word. I showed one of them a photograph of a young man would had been lynched. I told her that was the last word this man heard before he was lynched. Her parent filed an harassment charge against me.
@teachjacque debate on race is a topic that's never ending with no winners. I think you can just give topics on race as a home work and explain to students that this is a topic that's controversial. Smart and interested students will learn this way.
Sing it again.
AMEN
I saw the interview you did with this couple earlier. They didn’t listen one bit. The Dr. told them repeatedly that CRT isn’t taught in k-12 yet they kept asking her about it. They did not care at all. Their mind was already made up
There mind was already made up? Really cus it sounds like they are totally on board with the fact that its NOT being taught in schools & the idea that shielding students from TRUE history is appalling & bad, if you've listened to not only these 2 videos but all like 5 they've done that's very obvious so I'm not sure how you've got that conclusion whatsoever
Huhhh?????
I too was concerned, especially toward the end of this video when the wife basically tried to tell Ms. Moore that black people should be more like her and just "stop fighting and enjoy your time with your friends of the opposite color like I did when I was in college and by the way some black kids told me I didn't belong there so I'm just as much a victim as you". Sickening to see, especially in that awful church lady tone of voice. Yuk.
@@ar4203 I hear what you are saying, but I think that the reality is somewhere down the middle. I think that this couple made themselves vulnerable and opened up to hearing other points of view, however, like all of us they had a strong set of beliefs, ideas and viewpoints based on their past experiences. I few conversations is unlikely to change all of one's preconceived notion in one go. It's a process that takes many conversations, I'm sure that while they still have their biases they are going to think of things differently when they encounter different situations. I don't think they are totally on board with the fact that it is not being taught in school (and I get that) it's cognitive dissonance. For the past two years Fox news has been telling them that it is being taught in school, so while intellectually they can agree that it is not, it's going up against what they've been hearing on a regular. This couple reminds me of the journey my parents took from being homophobic to loving the gay couple across the street from us that was so lovely to being open and loving to all. Change doesn't happen overnight. You need a chance to think about it, and a chance to start changing your actions and your mind - the couple themselves often talked about needing time to process. Some of their questions and presumptions irked me and I think that is where Sailor Slay was coming from. For me, the best part of the conversation was the homework that Ms. Moore gave because if they do it (and I believe that they will), it will give them more insight and more of a chance to reflect and further develop.
It IS taught in k-12. I have seen it myself, so?
My son was saddened after he watched the eyes on the prize series on PBS. He said he was sad and angry; he was a black person. He was 11. I also saw it around that age and was a victim of racist attacks physically and verbally. He is now 14 and has a great appetite for history and is very inquisitive about things that question morality. He often points out when I'm hypocritical as a parent, and when I show prejudice. He hopefully will be a better citizen for what He's learned.
That PBS series was so well done and comprehensive.
I can’t imagine how anyone could watch it and not get saddened and upset.
It sounds as if you’re doing a great job with him, especially by being willing to listen when he points out when you fall short. All the best to you.
I would like to know some specifics about what he was sad, and angry about. And what is it he sees as "prejudiced."
@@serpentines6356 It seems for us all.... often life is not fair and no one can explain it all. We all may judge before we understand something or someone. We use the labels we were taught until we choose to level up our awareness. "Have you ever yelled a friend's name from afar, and come to find out... that's not your friend. #failuretorecognize To an 11 year old who learned about Anne Frank, Ghandi, and Harriet Tubman, I'm pretty sure he was upset about just what he said, "being Black". Even though throughout history atrocities were committed by every shade of human, he was pretty sad about what we choose to do to one another.
@@Btone33 Ah, right. One of the difficult parts of growing up - facing the human condition.
While history is necessary to learn about, I wish more people would address our current criminality, murder rates, and black on black crime that devastates many of these ghetto areas. So many young lives lost.
The lack of father's, dependence on gov't, victimhood memes. Not good.
Even though, this is still the best country for opportunity to make a better life.
After watching ALL the videos.... These 2 still have a lot of work to do. I am glad they engaged in this opportunity but it often seemed like they were just trying to say the right thing versus absorbing the information that was being presented to them. I hope they did do the homework she gave them and a lot more. I hope that they recognize that the history that they learned is not far off ( Claudette Colvin is still alive among many others) and that there are still actions that they can take to make things right.
And I really want someone to explain to the wife how sacred a space HBCUs are when she was met with those 2 moments of resistance... And how that is how a lot of BIPOC still experience the world today.
Yesssss, Sis! To allllll of this! ✅👍🏾
The wife keeps bringing it up in every interview randomly out of place in the conversation lol
@@crob949 this is the second video I’ve seen of them and you’re absolutely right in your analysis
@@SJJsolomonSJJ it’s like she is dying to share her reverse racism story lol
Yeah- I think she's struggling so much with the discomfort and cognitive dissonance - it seems to be her go-to narrative for quieting those thoughts.
I appreciate that this couple is cordial and seemingly curious but after several of these conversations I can't help but get the sense that they're not saying how they REALLY feel and are being formal for the camera.
They push back very little on the answers they are given and yet still identify as conservatives and haven't indicated any change in thinking. The whole thing is a little bizarre to me.
That bizarre paradox is where the conservative mindset lives. It’s like digging your heels in while trying to run
There is a follow-up interview with them saying how they feel after everything they learned from these interviews.
Yes, who knows what they are really thinking - I wouldn’t attempt to guess. But I do know that the role of the interviewer, typically, is to make themselves look dumber than they are. An interviewer’s job is to ask the questions that the audience would be asking. Interviewers typically ask questions they already know the answers to, but they are asking on behalf of audience members who don’t know squat. And rather than explaining what they know themselves, they are creating the space for their guests to share their expertise and insight.
Deplorable! This lawyer pisses me off when using Dr. Kings words. Listen how willfully ignorant are these people.
I am baffled by the fact he is a lawyer but questions CRT which is supposedly taught in Law School🤦🏿♀️
This is not their first experience of the meeting all these people got involved about the CRT, They have already visited another Dr for the same interview, its a process they're going through in order to understand the reason behind the CRT.
You guys prove if MLK was alive today, the left would cancel him and claim he is a racist
@@mike-ws3jl we will never know what would happen because hateful demonic non black ppl wanted him dead and killed him.
@@mike-ws3jl the right actually did cancel him for good. The day after he said "to non-violent is to be non-existent". He was killed.
“We build empathy by understanding what others have gone through.”
Most people today have not lived through systematic racism, so I have no sympathy or responsibility when I talk to people about racism.
@@mike-ws3jl Systemic racism still exists. This is why you need CRT. You are not equipped to have these conversations.
@@mike-ws3jl We are currently living, today, with systemic racism still in our country.
Everyone expect white people! As they in invented the hatred and continue to perpetuate it daily!
@@mike-ws3jl you would feel that way considering it's y'all culture and tradition so you think it's in the past 🤣😭🤣
Malcolm X was a great leader! I feel if we used violence to protect ourselves like Ukrainians are right now, we would have made a mark. Violence isn’t the answer, but, the only way to get a bully off you is to stand your ground.
I hear them with the “love” idea. It’s not sustainable.
The reason why "white folks" only quote MLK and never quote Marcus Garvey or Malcolm X etc. is the same reason why/how "black racism" impacts whites as a group... FEAR 😱
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They love the " I have a dream." MLK, They often don't realize that in his Mountain Top sermon that he started out by saying " To be non-violent is to be non-existent." They only like the non-violent version.
@@teamtate322 yes, and they either don't remember or deliberately ignore MLK's "get our check" speech
Respectability politics hasn’t really helped us. This is what Dr. MLK was promoting by dressing well and speaking eloquently to White counterparts. It may have helped push policy and legislation, but it doesn’t stop the power dynamic of the America’s racist society.
White people love to bring him up because they think he’s a pacifist - a gentle Black men amongst all the angry ones. Many white people have told me, "it’s just so nice we can actually have a conversation without all this anger, ya know?" They don’t wanna address the anger without gaslighting the oppressed person.
It’s definitely not sustainable. Whites have a problem knowing they came from us. We can never , ever, form a jointed love and support interest. If only some of my Black folk knew this!
I applaud anyone who calmly tries to ascertain truth. But this whole set-up? Black people needing to reassure and justify themselves to worried White people? Assure them that Critical Race Theory isn't some nefarious plot to "separate" us, but a way of analyzing the effects of legalized racism? (What's incredible to me is that this is in any way a controversial idea.) The interviewers have a White Savior idea of themselves - they're on the side of righteousness and see history as a simple March of Progress. ("Racism was THEN; we're over it now!") They seem to struggle with the idea that Black people may have a completely different experience of life in this country. It's sooooooo dispiriting and grating. What I'd LIKE to see is this couple in the spotlight, for a change, and Blacks being the ones to ask the questions.
EXACTLYYYYYYYY 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I've watched all the interviews with this couple and.. yeesh. They act receptive, but mostly they want a cookie for being The Ones who Listen. 🙄Because the prob with the world today is the Divide blablabla. The fact that they have issues with the IDEA of CRT says it all.
And the woman is especially putrid.
@@bohemianmermaid Totally. The way she says something, then smiles huge, then drops the smile reminds me so much of this religious creep: ua-cam.com/video/9LtF34MrsfI/v-deo.html
@@brandybobandy2194 Wow! I just watched that video.
Ugh, this is beyond cringe worthy 😬😵💫 Looking at his face and hearing his voice, I get this vibe ....👹🔥🔥🔥😳
There's something about this couple just gives me a creepy "FAKE" feeling, especially the lady, and he's probably even worse behind closed doors...he seems very good at playing the "GODLY GOOD PERSON" Like watchin Rosemary's Baby,😵💫😒
As for the women with all the CORRECT history, she's AMAZING!❤️ I could listen to her all day long
THISSSSSSSSSS THISSSSSSSSSS THISSSSSSSSSS
Right? They get worse every video I watch. The wife always looks like she smells something bad.
I don't care for this couple. I am really not understanding what they are missing. I also, do not believe anything that comes out of their mouths. I don't believe that anyone has touched them. Their whole "I went to an HBCU", and "I minor in whatever the hell", yet I am still not getting it bothers me.
Wait, this same couple? How many more experts do you need to talk with to understand such a simple concept? Like, what is this bullshit? Why do they keep pretending they don't understand the concept? They're just bullshiting. Playing that old racist bullshit of pretending to not understand what's happening around them when they know exactly what's happening around them.
They'd be a perfect fit for the show - The Watchmen, for sure.
The pro CRT people are the ones lying through their teeth. If they were honest they would state CRT for what it is. Racist, "hate-whitey", anti-western, anti-capitalist poison.
Have these dude questioned the other side? I think they are trying to get free milk 🥛 and cookies 🍪. She basically said 'I have black friends' 😄
I'm watching this series and I am learning. Learning things that were not taught to me in school...only in life. When I first heard the wife speak of being confronted twice at her HBCU, I had a thought...actually a few thoughts. She seems to use it as an example of how she CHOOSES to not dwell on her perceived "negativity" of the interaction. I wonder if she ever thought of 1. How people of color must have felt, and still feel, when they are in a predominantly white school...and were tormented and tortured? 2. Maybe the students telling her that she doesn't belong there feel like she has taken away from a person of color, or she is literally desecrating something that belongs to them. I don't know, I could be way off but I would think that people of color have been denied anything to actually "belong" to them by white people forever. To them, she may feel like an intruder.
It almost comes across to me that she is saying, "I got over those two instances of feeling uncomfortable, so people of color should dwell on the positive, not the negative" or she thinks those two instances qualify her as having camaraderie. I wonder if she has thought of how she has the CHOICE to not dwell on the negativity, people of color weren't given a CHOICE at all.
This country has come miles but we still have miles to go.
I've watched a few of these and think they do a good job overall. Mrs. Glasgow has used the two occasions at TSU (two incidents in two years I believe) where she experienced discrimination as a minority in every episode. She says in this episode that the experience made her focus on the love people have for each other. I wonder what her take away would be if those experiences were more frequent, and over a longer span (maybe a lifetime).
I don't mean to be rude but I will bet she had a relationship with a black man...
@@fredmac1251 Douche comment.
Yeah-it's really cringe how often she refers to this experience, as if to point out how magnanimous she is for still considering her overall experience at an HBCU as a positive thing. She's so obsessed with her own self-congratulatory narrative, it makes me think she's not at all 'sitting with any discomfort'. Also, the grasping for members of the clergy involvement in the Freedom Riders is interesting. I suppose it's practical to give these people some comfort in identifying with those who stood on the right side of history, but I think it's more important to imagine that you might not...and what you'd need to do currently to get to a place where you can be that person.
At this point I don’t think I am going to watch another video. This couple is very exhausting to listen to….I tried
Same
I watched this whole series and it's inciteful but at the same time it requires work as she said. this couple is still in the mode of how can we make this easy. How can we just wrap it all up in Dr. King's peaceful view of struggle but as she said read all of Dr. King and you will see he's very truthful of what was happening. You must teach not just the African American side but the white side. The perpetrators, instigators, and implementors of the injustice, inequality, violence and hate. WE have to tell the history with all it's warts and we must tell American history by telling the story of the Native American, African American and the colonizers side by side with all the warts.
Tell the positive side of colonialism too. Give different perspectives. The CRT perspective is racist evil.
@@serpentines6356 it's about the laws. If CRT is evil, it's evil because of the thousands of federal, state, city laws and local codes that were created, voted on and implemented with extreme violence. THATs the evil. The horror. It'd the laws created based solely on skin color to institute inequality, segregation, and injustice.
@@jsmith1277311 Yes, but that's not the case anymore. It's not good to stew constantly in victimhood.
There are different kinds of privileges. Many blacks had it better if they came from a good family than if white coming from an abusive family.
CRT is racist, and evil. Stop blaming past things for racist BS that is going on now.
@@serpentines6356 have you read or researched the laws that were created in this countryjust to regulate the bodies and movement of the African slave during colonization and the slave trade? There were thousands of laws in every state, city and local area that were created just to regulate some part of the African slave life and km not even talking about the jim crow laws which were still violently enforced in my lifetime. The geography of the America is enforced by legal laws based on slavery. The wealth and power of this countries foundation was built by the legalization of African slaves. How can you call it victimization when it's MY history?? I want MY American history told and taught. Why should I only hear your romantic version about yourself? Ignorance is not an excuse. Tell it all, especially tell about the laws created, passed and violently enforced created specifically for African and people with dark skin color. Tell the truth. We're doing it anyway and we don't need your approval to do so.
I wish more people would try to listen and learn, we would be a better society for that.
That requires far too high of an EQ than most human beings possess.
Start with white people!!!!!!
If only people listen more
White people REFUSE to listen because it benefit THEM to IGNORE. REPROBATE minds
She is so good. She's a heavy hitter, she goes back and grabs those things that you mentioned and you thought oh wow I hit a home run, she takes it and peels it like a banana. I think the misses is understanding yet not quite processing what she's understanding, she's thinking this is deeper then I planned. She's so shallow. They don't give me any hope, I'm sorry. I would love for the teacher to tell us what she truly thought about these two.
These talks need to stop. This is done to antagonize these black professionals. We did this in the 1960s, 70s and 80s. Let’s not waste any more time in these demands to justify our existence and experience. Give them a few books and move on. Educate YOUR DAMN self.
This woman right here brought truth...yessss
I don't understand why these same two people keep asking black people about CRT Prof.Carol Anderson told them CRT isn't taught in grade school , only on the college level. WHAT WILL THEY GO BACK TO OTHER WHITES,AND SAT CRT, IS TAUGHT IN ALL SCHOOLS.TELL THEM TO TALK TO WHITE FOLKS, ABOUT WHAT THEIR AFRAID OF.
CRT as a subject in of itself isn't taught K-8, but its tenets of DEI are implemented across the country, as well as its framework of exposing ways to end systemic oppression.
CRT is not taught as a course in K-12. However, CRT does influence teaching in schools and DEI programs, look at the California curriculum.
These 2 have been giving off a, "What more do y'all want?", vibe in the interviews I've seen. They look like they want to listen and that they are curious but the question carry that vibe.
Have to be honest, the ‘implicit bias expert’ and this CRT expert really haven’t convinced me at all. In fact I’m pretty sure I could debunk at least half of what the crt expert said in this video
Agree too much time spent on the same issue.
They both follow Christ but I bet voted for Trump lol........Doesn't MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL
What would be wrong with that?
@@mike-ws3jlSad that you have to ask. No real Christian would support the hatred that Trump spreads every time he opens his mouth. How can a person say they are a Christian but support a person void of character, pathological liar, unapologetic racist like Trump? This does not make sense to people that really care about other people and try to do the right thing.
"I don't focus on those two bad situations" "I DO, however, highlight them for every person I talk to on camera, to reinforce how clearly I can't be considered racist at all. Yes I voted for Trump both times"
OOOOOPS!!
What makes you think Trump is racist?
Biden's blunt racism is okay?
@@serpentines6356 Racism is never okay and should be corrected wherever found. Show me a recent clip of Biden saying anything about an entire country similar to "they're rapists", "Kung Flu", or retweeting known white supremacists and neo-nazis. We'll wait.
@@Ryan-ob6gp "If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black" --Biden
I love how he throws the "ain't" in there. Hillary did that too. Love the bad English, speaking down to blacks.
Dems would have gone crazy if Trump said anything of that sort.
Don't know where Trump tweeted about white supremacists. I don't pay attention to tweets.
But, I don't care much about what politicians say, more what they do. And Biden is ruining things. Energy development, which is a major part of our economy. our border, Iran situation, weak on Russia, part of the evil WEF "Great Reset" plans, etc. F him. And them. They care nothing for us, for our liberty.
Trump at least cared that we work, and have our liberties.
Dems cared nothing for small businesses, and shut them down. The backbone of America.
I didn't hear Trump say anything about a whole country being "rapists " Trump was right that when we allow tons of illegals across our borders that includes criminals, which includes rapists.
I thought "Kung Fu" was funny. The Chinese gov't is evil, so they deserve to be the butt of a joke.
When did Biden get sued because he wouldn’t rent to black peoples?
The fact that your not ashamed to call yourself a Conservative speaks volumes
What's wrong with holding traditional values?
Listen. Good for you for willing to try and see things from a black woman’s perspective. She’s sharing HER personal experiences.
I don't get white people who don't think Juneteenth is about them or for them. I am a white person. My ancestors fought for the union. Juneteenth is something they helped make happen, and it's one of the greatest, purest goods that my family can lay claim to. Juneteenth *is* for me and about me.
(And also any excuse for a barbecue and a day off is good enough for me. I'll have to check out that strawberry soda thing.)
CRT obviates the need for any thought, word or act of racism as proof of their presumed verdict. All they need is their preferred race measuring less favorably than another. Regardless of the cause: they declare their favored race to be victims of the other.
Then they would use real government enforced discrimination in response to their presumed discrimination; altering laws, policies and practices to favor their preferred race.
All for the stated purpose of forcibly making the measurements between races identical.
The operative question is whether you support using government force to implement racial discrimination.
All the rest is academic.
My answer is no.
Please read books about CRT to better understand CRT.
@@AdrienLegendre
Back atcha!
Thanx.
I want to know why she thinks she's sharing that she went to an HBCU
In a different video, she explains her experience at an HBCU & how she now understands what it’s like to be the minority. 🙄
@@RobbieBishop She WAS a minority in those moments and she experienced being yelled at explicitly because of her skin color. Jimi would say she’s experienced.
Crt is a graduate college course. Talking about racism is American history
CRT is a sociological theory, not a history class. No one opposes the teaching of historical facts no matter how ugly. CRT uses a method of tit for tat-their theme is the only way to combat racism is to apply it.
Yep but this comment section seems completely oblivious to this fact
This is not correct. CRT is based on a Marxist theory called critical theory.
Eisenhower making people who lived near. Concentration camps is similar to the liberal approach to approaching race relations. We all have a lot to learn, and if we can't agree that bad things have happened and are still happening, how can we make things better.
Exactly. I wanted them to examine why their "tribe" is so against this thing.
at about 46min - he says "let's face it, in America, we haven't faced real calamity" pretty sure he just missed the entire point !! Clearly slavery and the following 'hidden slavery' is a calamity for Americans, IF he truly believed we are all one people
I watched the two video and if I took a shot every time he said “ I’m a conservative “ I would be drunk
OMG. Ms more is what i love in an educator. she goes after the student to get them engaged into learning. you see how these parents are now student and to be honest children once again trying to gain knowledge and not shunning away from the history of america. this country of ours did some good but we also did some bad and thus we can learn from the bad and becomes a better and more perfect union by learning it. to grow and become better we must understand. not just know of the past. it is how we strive to stay better and push back on the evil ways of well those who would rather power then equal and fair rights.
Did the gentleman say Dr. King was living a charmed life?
Wow, I love her. Ms./Mrs. Moore is one of the best communicators on this history I have ever heard. And I love that she challenges with her own questions and gives "homework" to read and learn more. I mean, it makes sense given her career position at this center, but it doesn't mean I am any less impressed by her.
1:14 the fact she didnt hear of it kimda strikes the non-value of a PATRIOTIC history as a solution to CRT
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Everything she stated during this interview is RELEVANT & factual. She listened and was engaged. But clearly wants them to see past the "religious aspect." The cover up, the chains(we're suppose to break, right?)the barbaric way of brainwashing, the emotional manipulation used to overlook FACTS, TRUTH & an abundant realm of untold history that will not be taught in history books.
...So critical race theory will be effective, while taught in schools. Why is it okay to see and "assume" the struggles and inhumane treatment our, (OUR) 👋🏾ancestors endure(d) throughout THOUSANDS of years of history; we didn't CREATE. But not okay to those against Critical Race Theory; to know the deplorable & systematic "hidden" truth as to why?!!!
Why what?
CRT is racist poison.
You confuse Black History which should be taught in schools with CRT which is a philosophy/ideology based on Marxism and is best ignored.
Excellent I learned so much from you So thank you I am 91 yrs old and I'm am so pleased
Informative but very awkward interview throughout. A lot of tension.
Probably because it was becoming clearly evident that the Glasgows were not getting the point at all and trying to impose their white-centered perspective on Ms. Moore. I can see why she was bristling. I was cringing throughout, esp at the end when the Mrs. Glasgow gave her little speech about what a "victim" she was when she went to black college. UGH.
@@brandybobandy2194 Exactly. There was a lot of awkward tension during the Carol Anderson interview too.
These ppl still don't get it...why just them speaking to all these educators?!!!
Is CRT a way to avoid having to teach actual Black history in education. Because last I heard there is the engagement of teaching Asian History. I am not a parent but I am a 42yr old AAmerician who has lived through the 80s till now and I've seen things that continue to show me that things may have changed but not much.
No. The strategic, "brain trust," of the right-wing in the U.S. have introduced Critical Race Theory as the latest boogeyman to scare the FOX News/MAGA/AM talk radio crowd into voting Republican. It's just the latest iteration of Willie Horton/Jeremiah Wright/AntiFa etc. So, the narrative that, "CRT is indoctrinating our white children to hate themselves," is a fig leaf for the same racist tropes that the far right have been using to divide & conquer since Reconstruction, i.e. "reverse racism" with a new name.
To be more specific, the people funding & directing the modern right-wing movement are a mixture of old money elitist bigots, authoritarian muckrakers & Christian Dominionists. They have different reasons for arriving at them, but they share many goals: one of which is to defund public education altogether, leading to the elimination of public schools. The Christian fanatics believe God has mandated that they be in control of all education. [Google: "Seven Mountains Influence," for a thorough explanation] The fascists rightly understand that properly supported public education helps create critical thinkers, which in turn leads to anti-authoritarian outcomes, aka democracy.
P.S. I'm not sure why you mentioned the teaching of Asian History, but I would caution against falling into the traps that the racist system lays out for us. The actual people in power are those who control the purse strings - it's not the politicians, police, clergy, school administrators, etc.; they're merely tools to be used. It's also not other ethnic minorities who have been historically oppressed in this country. The Kochs, Murdochs & Musks of this world want us to hate one another; they need us to direct our ire & resentment at one another because it stops us from aiming at them.
CRT is a philosophy based on Marxism, not Black History. This is a common error.
I don't mean to demand and prescribe what you should do with your lives, Bart and Coley Glasgow, but have a few questions for you:
1. Do you realise that you are unique in your views on races because of your history in mixing with other races?
2. Have you considered taking your real and honest approach to issues to the political arena (i.e. standing for political office?)
People like you may be the last hope of saving America from a ideologically polarized, racially polarized, toxic and explosive country. I think it your duty to America a different path from the status quo. If not for yourselves surely for your children, grandchildren and nation.
Apologies again if I sound preachy.
They are not really for Primetime honey.
I love how Obama statedcthis is the best place for young blacks to be.
He was very right about that.
Too bad so many people are in the victimhood cult.
It's not hard to teach CRT just teach it along with history.
The whole point is that it's not a subject that's suitable for teaching in k-12. It's a law school subject.
CRT is a type of philosophy or ideology based on Marxism. Many people believe children should not be taught to follow a political ideology e.g. Trump's ideology or CRT.
But she went to TWO (2) HBCU's
Who could be against making Juneteenth a federal holiday? That question has an answer if you really want to know. Start by looking at the public record of the people that did vote against it and then maybe vote them out of office.
After reading several of the comments below, I would have to agree with those of you who are, at the very least, some what skeptical about this couple's -- umm - sincerity???
But what I really enjoyed about this one is how Ms. Moore turned the tables on them. In the other two videos that I've watched, the couple has conducted the interviews. But Nicole takes charge here. I'd love to know what her education is and how she became so steeped in ALL of the history that's housed in that Center.
For someone who “doesn’t focus on the bad things” that happened to her as a minority she sure does bring it up enough. Only twice in her college years was she made to feel unwelcome and she can’t seem to let it go. Hmmm
Did you know that RosacParks was Afro-Indigenous? I learned that at a powwow I went to a few years ago. I met her relative…who had the family pix and enrollment to prove it. I was like wow…there’s so much we don’t know about our history here in this land….and around the world where diasporans from Africa were taken by force.
THESE 2 again? 🙄
What if the “least of my brothers” is the transgender kid? Will you fight for that kid? Even if you don’t get it? Even if you think it’s “wrong”?
What! I don't need a pastor to know what's wrong or right----please.
I give this couple credit for educating themselves on these issues and being curious. The goal is to learn, question and try to understand.
The title includes Critical Race Theory (Marxist philosophy), but the discussion is about teaching Black History. The title suggests that the producers made a common error, confusing Black History and Critical Race Theory.
These two are taking the right path. It will be hard and they will have days of heavy thinking and guilt. But it is up to them to use that experience to grow. Hopefully they do, but it will be hard.
It's amazing that these folks didn't seem to learn the factual history of America throughout their life or education. I sure hope that they're learning a LOT through these interviews/ discussions.
That’s the number one red flag when talking to a conservative, the only civil rights leader they can call on by name is MLK Jr. the only speech they’re familiar with is I Have a Dream. They like the idea of MLK’s accomplishments, yet fight tooth and nail against everything he fought for by voting for the people who would take us back to 1960 if they had the chance.
@@dustinjoeypace 100%! ironically enough, it was MLK Jr that encouraged me to read more into Socialism when I was a teen, that and the labor movement. Conservatives just use MLK JR to appear less evil than they are. The BLM protests in 2000 were VERY much like the civil rights movements of the 60's... We saw how they reacted/ responded to those yet they still like to pull out one line from the "I have a dream" speech.... Mostly to mischaracterize its meaning.
@@CaptPeon History is repeating itself, sadly. As we have been warned it will do. These people have always existed in America. They just hold different signs and (literally) wear a different hat. The language becomes more coded, more veiled, but the hate is all the same. The racists in power on the right are slowly creeping toward getting angry white people comfortable saying the quiet part out loud.
@@dustinjoeypace I couldn't agree more, unfortunately! "... Getting comfortable saying the quit part out loud..." Again
@@CaptPeon exactly. We shouldn’t be having to do this all over again. Blood was shed and lives were lost fighting for the bare minimum of the Civil Rights Act. Now, in 2022, we’re inching closer to having to do it again. I can’t imagine the pain black folks are feeling over this. My daughter is biracial and I fear for the world she’s inheriting.
These are the same parents that sat down with Carol Anderson and gained nothing. They used her to answer their questions that they already knew the answer to. He is an educated lawyer, stop the bs. Why are WE taking our time to teach the very people responsible for our circumstances of the consequences of the systems they created and support to this day? This is not it!
I just read Grant, about how he not only freed slaves, but instituted the 15th Ammendment, the Ku Kluz Klan Act and other aspects of ther Reconstruction error, basically the very start of civil rights before they were crushed and Jim Crow set in. Good read, good context.
Ooooooh. Nice. Put it back on them
WOW!!! this is the BEST, GIVE and TAKE, out there that 👁️'ve heard on CRITICAL RACE THEORY. to question, answer, and state your opinion/thoughts freely is the EPITOME of 'COME LET US REASON TOGETHER'. Then we can PRAY, TOGETHER and ask GOD for understanding on how we should work TOGETHER.✍️💕👁️ Moreover, as the interviewer pointed out in trying to protect our CHILDREN from all Evil, we often underestimate their ABILITY to decide for THEMSELVES, what way they go and/or what is acceptable behaviour on LiFE'S JOURNEY.👁️
This is the second video that I’ve seen with quote and quote parents skepticism pertaining to CRT. Make it make since as to why it’s the same couple whose in a Q&A.
I believe this is also their UA-cam Channel.
@@dghteroftheking thanks I stand corrected
@@latoyahammond7229 certainly and thanks I stand corrected
Wouldn't it be easier to just "use quotation marks" instead of typing the word "quote" twice before the phrase you want to be in quotation marks?
@@Wesley-rn7oc Quote means to cite something as a form of proof. Which is why the run on words validates my question. And to your ignorance of using quotation marks which is a noun used to either mark the beginning and end of a title which my comment is not or quoted passage which again my comment is not or to indicate that a word or phrase is regarded as slang, which in context is neither. Clearly you no nothing about writing or it’s forms. Having said that be sure to fact check your punctuations within a question, comment or statement. Smh
Maybe it would be less threatening to the privileged class if the word Race was dropped. What about just Critical Thinking on US History.
After walking through a Civil Rights museum you have the nerve to say "We haven't faced real calamity in the US" 🤦🏿♂
His questions are "direct examination" questions: questions that prompt her to tell her story. Not sure what to make of it. Learning this history is so critical.
The dear woman who lead the story is amazing
The cognitive dissonance is really heavy, even down to these parents' tone initially. Per usual, the receiver of all the injustices of the country has to tolerate the tone to avoid "offending them". This is painful to watch BUT at least they are trying? It's a start? It really is bothersome how the "receiver" of all the American crap has to have more concern about the feelings of those who have always had leverage moving through life. Life is hard for everyone yes, but it's crazy how the blinders are preferred over pushing through the "uncomfortable" to get to the other side especially for "christians".
All in all, it's a move in the right direction. Please let's get over this limiting social construct.
You as a lawyer do the samething when you present a case in court you put words a certain way to make the case to seem worst then it is just to win ( as you say the way the media does) when you're trying to protect a guilty man.
Why the fuck do we need to prove or explain anything? This is nonsensical.
because the GOP has become a voting block that doesn't look for proof or explanation of anything, pretty much.
Spoken like a true advocate of CRT.
@@maurygoldblat8982 I can't imagine any possible response that would reinforce my point any more effectively. Thanks Maury!
@@Ryan-ob6gp
It was funnier when I said it!
@@Ryan-ob6gp fuck those people
Why is it only a white couple? There are plenty of non whites that are skeptical
Most black and brown people are NOT believers or supporters of CRT. Only those on the far left support this theory and it’s a very small number
Because you don't want to know ....fool.
These people play stupid real well
I wanna see them do these same types of interviews with the gay community.
This literally brought tears to my eyes. She did a wonderful job. Just amazing.
@Min. 14:23
@Genesis 12:3 = Matthew 25:31-46
Abraham's Descendants
Jesus's Brethren
goats sheep
Matthew 6:20-21. (20. But lay up for
yourselves treasures in Heaven...21.
For where your treasure is, there will
your heart be also. God bless you!!!
Human capital means getting the most out of everyone else for personal benifit.
How does the wife not know much about the Freedom Riders??? I learned about them in 6th and 7th grade!
Someone also has to be there to dump sugar and hot coffee on the activists.
She is amazing, brave couple keep it going
Why ask them why they support the law makers to try to make that back in existence
They never focus on perpetrators, instead the victims
Learning is priceless.
It’s a good thing, overall, but painful to watch their growth getting mired in cultural bias.
I hope that other folks who haven’t given as much effort as these 2 can be sparked by these first steps. I’m sure to some, these 2 will seem fully enlightened.
Keep trying, keep trying to educate/ illuminate!
The oppressed faking oppressors
Excellent
"More important, as critical race theorists we adopt a stance that PRESUMES that racism has contributed to ALL contemporary manifestations of group advantage and disadvantage along RACIAL lines, including differences in income, imprisonment,health, housing, education, political representation, and military service. Our history calls for this PRESUMPTION."
"Words That Wound: Critical Race Theory, Assaultive Speech, and the First Amendment"
by Matsuda, Lawrence III, Delgado, and KIMBERLE' WILLIAMS CRENSHAW
Those are their words from their intellectual papers: It is the entire foundation of the premise.
CRT promotes the notion that the fact that a group is measurably superior is proof that everybody in that group is guilty; and, that a group being inferior is proof that everybody in that group is a victim.
Further: this principle projects through time; asserting that what happened to the long dead projects onto the guilt or victimhood of the living; even if the living never experienced it at all...........
CRT uses history and statistics to justify using government force to implement racial discrimination.
@Shauna Tate
Government enforces.
CRT promotes and advocates government racial discrimination.
That’s not at all what that passage means. Honestly, that’s so far from any reasonable interpretation of the text that I feel comfortable accusing you of blatantly making up your “analysis” to stoke the flames of outrage.
@@connorholman2916
Vacuous dismissal accepted and reciprocated.
Thank you.
Poor baby lol
@@connorholman2916
Ironic post.
Unfortunately there are teachers who don’t fight hard enough to teach more than just black history month. Today if it’s not in a teachers union contact teachers are just happy teaching reading, writing and math.
Ms. Moore is part of stealing my identity as a teen in foster care.
YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ENJOY THAT Y'ALL ACTUALLY ENJOY IT THAT YOU SHOW IT EVERY YEAR YOU ENJOY THAT 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
This is going to be hard for me, but I'm going to watch to the end.
At 29:ish...he asks her a question. I don't hear an answer...She seems to just be saying we are trying to avoid painful truths in our history. Evading answering the question. Parents don't want their babies segregated in schools, lined up by color. I'm listening but discouraged. You're just not being fully truthful. This leads me to distrust your intentions.
I LOVE the celebrating the amazing souls that took a stand. If we want to be fully exposed should we teach the children about the Africans that sold their people into slavery? All the countries that engaged in it? That still engage in slavery. Let's celebrate the USA for fighting to free themselves of this ugliness.
Finally, yes, I agree with the lady that looks to concentrate on the positives of her experience, the love and coming together. Again, I don't think anyone is against June- teenth. I think it's an awesome day to honor and celebrate.
@MichelleJ, me again. To be fair, there was a lot to his question which is why she probably wanted to take a minute to digest it all. I agree, those exercises which divide kids up by color can be problematic. Getting white kids to apologize to their black peers is also a problem, but making blanket laws which have teachers concerned about whether they can speak basic truths in the class is not the solution. " If we want to be fully exposed should we teach the children about the Africans that sold their people into slavery? All the countries that engaged in it? That still engage in slavery." Absolutely! It is about teaching truths and giving context. The lawyer speaks of critical thinking and about not telling kids what to think but rather just expose them to the truths. I agree to not telling students what to think - that should not be what an education is - education should be more about discovery, but a lot of the times, students are just not exposed to the truths. Exposing kids to truths and ideologies is not telling kids how to think. I went to a Catholic school and World Religions was a required course. We had to learn about Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, the different types of Christianity etc. ... they were not trying to get us to convert but rather have an understanding of other religions so that we could be more knowledgeable and open minded about others.
@@rstraker72 what your saying here, I completely agree with. Absolutely children are able to appreciate our terrible past, and with a focus on what we've done right, and how we can continue to build on our advances is a win win. However, I don't trust our public school system to tackle this. There have been to many examples of awful teachings.
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@@malibu405 Absolutely! Public school isn't enough. Parents should be taking their kids to museums to learn about slavery and neo-slavery as soon as it was abolished, and then the Jim Crowe laws and Redlining that legally enforced inequality. But as the woman said in one of the other videos, she had never heard of the Freedom Riders! It's critical that this history makes it into the classroom of every child in the country so that even if it's not taught perfectly, they still get exposed to the original facts and they can at least make up their own mind! Only when people are kept ignorant can they be most easily swayed by false information (which I know you agree with!) Thanks for reading my comment :)
@@malibu405 I was wrong, she said it around the 10 minute mark that she hadn't heard the history of the Freedom Riders. I learned about them in my public school and I would be so mad if that history was kept from me! Even if it's taught poorly at least I know this event happened and I can research it later myself.
CRT discards the concepts fought for during the civil rights era. In fact, criticizing the message of MLK is a strategy of CRT advocates. They believe that the advances of the Civil Rights movement were anything but, and that the push for equal protection under the law only reinforces the advantages that whites had in society.
CRT is not an honest discussion about overcoming racism. CRT embraces segregationist ideals through the concept of intersectionality and attempts to reinforce prejudices through identity politics. They cannot discuss history because they never actually learned it. They cannot discuss morality because they reject the philosophy that founded it. CRT, like all critical theory, is only "useful" for CRITICIZING A SYSTEM. It does not offer any answers. It does not even criticize in a logical manner (making it pointless for real discussion).
When called out for hypocrisy, CRT Advocates will tell you they don't adhere to logic and reason; they simply tell "stories", and you are welcome to believe them or not. They reject truth and merit, and only rely on "evidence" when it is convenient to their claims. Essentially, they have no intellectual integrity, and they are actually PROUD OF IT. They speak solely to emotion and rhetoric, and therefore, cannot actually defend the positions they take, instead, relying on surface-level videos like this one, meant to be a gateway into a defunct belief system.
CRT is concerned with dismantling power structures they do not control. It is ONLY about power.
The tactics used in these videos are just the snare, useful for people that don't really want to understand the goals of those that push this ideology.
Simply read the Wikipedia on CRT as a starting point. You will be shocked at what you find.
No self respecting scholars quotes Wikipedia.
@@IAmNoOne281
I notice how you didn't disagree with anything said lol.
@@maurygoldblat8982 Did you really “Laugh or Loud” or is that just something you say when you feel socially awkward? I didn’t disagree, because like you, I’m not an expert of CRT, nor do I feel transposing a paragraph or two is sufficient to disprove an entire theory. What I do know is that the theory of race, specifically “white supremacy” is ingrained into every single fiber of this nation. It was codified into our laws, and used to racially stratify this nation.
In my experience, people who REALLY know what they’re talking about are able to reduce very complex ideas into simple terms.
America cannot be discussed or defined without race. Our laws are implicitly racist and are directed to serve the white population. Our history as a nation is horrifically racist and has been harmful to its black citizens. We know that every single black leader of our movements has been targeted and discredited by this nation. Which is why an understanding of race is critical to ANYONE who wants to understand the pathological conditions which the blacks of this nation seem to find themselves in.
I notice that your knowledge on the topic of CRT seems to be acquired through non reputable sources, thus is not much more than hearsay. Your opinions are therefore poorly informed and formulated at best. What do the people who have done the research on the topic say? Even if you disregard modern scholars and their work, you cannot disregard the experience of blacks in this nation, which seem to say in unison “we are treated as second class citizens”. Prior to Derrick Bell, Alan Freeman, and Richard Delgado, people like Du Bois were expressing very similar thoughts, which SEEMS to lend credibility to the works of later scholars.
What do you think?
You’re obviously a white man, who thinks blacks ought to “pull themselves up by their own bootstraps”. So, do you think blacks in this nation have been treated fairly? Do you believe systematic racism died with the passage of the civil rights act and voting act of ‘64 & ‘65? What is your take on the issues of race in America?
@@IAmNoOne281
I chuckled. I showed your post to my niece and she laughed at you as well.
I used to practice law, and I currently teach law courses. I have taken multiple classes on CRT and have read multiple books on the subject. I wrote an analysis on Lipsitz’s The Possessive Investment in Whiteness in law school. I am more qualified to speak on the subject than most, but I would be embarrassed to call myself “an expert” in any subject as stupid as CRT.
The few paragraphs I wrote were more than enough to shed light on CRT, and provided a simple pathway for people to begin investigating the subject on their own. The “Theory” is actually just a lens with which to view history and public policy. The method is not particularly compelling in my opinion, but maybe it impresses you?
You believe (KNOW LOL) “White Supremacy is ingrained into every single fiber of this nation.” How exactly? Every Fiber? LMAO.
It was used to stratify the people of the country. We also used to have slavery and Jim Crow. Times change. Try to keep up.
The ideas of CRT are not complex (for me at least), but I am glad that you appreciated the simple terms I used!
America can be both discussed AND defined without race. But… race has played, and continues to play a significant role in American society… SADLY.
How are our laws Implicitly Racist??? How do they “serve white people”? This one should be good… You know… considering I was a lawyer and currently teach law. I can’t wait to be enlightened.
American history is full of terrible treatment towards black people. No doubt.
If by “Our Movements” you mean CRT, then they should be discredited. Race Baiters should be ashamed of themselves. MLK is the ONLY AMERICAN with a national holiday btw.
Black people have received a raw deal in American history. It has placed them at a socio-economic disadvantage today. To claim that the sins of the past are continued today through “systemic racism” or “unconscious bias” is an incredibly weak argument. The only racial laws that exist in America today are designed to prop up minority groups.
I didn’t cite any sources. What would make you think they are not reputable? My “sources” are just as good as the ones you have cited up to this point LOL.
You have no basis for saying my opinions are poorly informed. At least Wikipedia has thousands of people monitoring it everyday. (though i did not use it as a source, I pulled from it for convenience :) ) You have no reference for your statements! How hypocritical.
You say I cannot disregard the experience of Black Americans, but you are quick to disregard my experience. Interesting.
I have read Bell and Delgado (not Freeman). I had never read WEB, but I am familiar with his arguments. I have always preferred Booker T.
Am I obviously a white man? Why do you think this? Because I disagree with you? Or because UA-cam says my name is Maury Goldblat?
Everyone should “pull themselves up by their own bootstraps”. You disagree?
Blacks have been treated very unfairly. I am glad America stopped.
I believe racism exists. I do not believe it is “ingrained in every fiber of American society”. I believe all members of society must deal with racist sentiments, especially those coming from advocates of CRT!
Ultimately, being racist is a bad thing. We should do everything we can to overcome the divisions of race. The best way to do this is to reduce the importance we place upon it in America… NOT MAGNIFY IT. Let’s say I was Jewish… and my family faced the horrors of the Holocaust. Should I continue to blame others, or restrict myself or others, or SHAME OTHERS because of a past injustice they had nothing to do with? Should I constantly harp on and accuse others of racism because I am part of a minority group? Should I be resentful or jealous of the success of others because I feel they had a leg up on life that my family (who might have immigrated to America as refugees) did not start out with in this country? No. Of course not. I treat people with the respect they deserve. I would pull myself up by my bootstraps. They should too.
We understand what happened but no one has ever denied you to go the bathroom.
Ahh, good to see true racism come out. Anyway, it's a losing battle so that's good to know.
But I have been denied access to employment. When I was in college in Elizabeth City, NC (1985) I went to apply for a job and I was told that by the manager that they had already met their quota and I need not apply. I was devastated.
Interesting that she attended an HBCU and hadn't learned indepth about AA history. Definitely shows the importance of museums.
Sorry you really don't understand what happened and I'm sure you don't realize your attitude perpetuate what's happening Now.. tc
@@magnoliasburden4112 not damn thing. 11Alive has been trying to enlighten this couple by let them speak with all kinds of educated blk experts on the topic. They did not come to learn or to listen
Sue the school for teaching people to be racist
One problem I have with CRT is it puts Race in the middle of society....
It isn't?
@@deedeee6271 Correct
Race shouldn't be but it was. A
as a result, it has impacts what we observe today. If we teach history we should teach it accurately. How we got to where we are is important.
It's been here. Where have you been?
@@michaelanderson4104 right,,,,, without CRT.
CRT says that natural differences between individuals (which do not benefit their favored race) are proof of crime and justification for government force.
That's not what CRT is about. Who told you that?
Wtf are you talking about?
CRT examines how systemic racism and racial biases influenced in how some laws were created and how they are enforced. It has nothing to do with biology or how you put it "natural differences". Please get educated.
@@jelatinosa
Confirmation appreciated.