That’s when you gotta… because “they” said it. The impossibilities we’re thankful to have done over the years have been fueled by that statement, and fulfilled by the grace of God!
I believe these are the ones made in Pagosa Springs, Colorado and distributed in Canada by another company. I have been in these dozens of times and they are awesome. In Pagosa, where we used to live, many local citizens have them, though the company does sell them to a MUCH bigger market. They are very effective, though my good friends there just put up the 42 ft one this year and start to finish it was $100k for everything, including site work, electric, plumbing, foundation, labor, garden beds, dirt, etc. They have a large family that's now expanding to grandkids, and given the times we live in, they felt the 42ft was the best for their personal needs. It's huge and has a ton of space. With some interior trellising and also vertical growing, you and truly grow a ton of food in there. I've seen people grow figs in the domes at high altitude, zone 4.
Interesting topic. Can you show me more about this? I don't know if you are acquainted with Diamond from Oppenheimer Ranch Project, he is in the Pagosa Springs area as well as Rex Bear . Very cool opportunity to brain storm .
Fantastic tour & conversation! They have done the space so beautifully! Thanks for sharing! I’m sure they’ll be very successful with their sales of plants. Blessings to all 🤗🇨🇦
Arctic Acres certainly makes a well built geodesic dome greenhouse klt. Shawn James at My Self Reliance had a 26' one built on his homestead and it works well for him.
Have to thank Buckminster Fuller for the Geodesic dome I really wanted to do a dome greenhouse but the heating was a big concern. However, if you're heating with an outside boiler I could do that but not with natural gas as that is not available here in the Columbia valley BC. Could do a wood heated outside boiler. I wasn't wanting a cement floor as I believe the plants are better growing in the earth as well as wanting to implement passive solar for the most part. Thank you for the wonderful video . . . you're changing my mind about some of my preconceived notions :)
@JohnGuest45 Doesn't work how you would think, it generates more heat than u want every day of the year, you gotta vent it anyway, it's a solar generator, it works out
I had planned to get one of these years ago when we lived near Edmonton, but then we ended up moving for education. They have improved with the polycarbonate since I looked at them on the new fangled Google search way back in the olden days. I think I printed off a copy of the web page and put it in my “inspiration” file. A paper file, for the young folks… it is like a file online, but it is a space-consuming paper-filled cabinet. Lol! 😊
Nice video and overview. Dean you turning into the Bob Villa of green houses. 🤣 I always liked the geodesic homes. I’m currently visiting the Mississippi Gulf Coast and saw one on top of pilings. Bay St Louis was in the eye of Katrina and the new building code along the coast is 30’ above the sea level for your floor elevation.
Well Dean ,,, yet another excellent video about greenhouse survivability. It's hard for me to have an open mind about these geodesic domes going back from previous experiences, however this video gives me new hope. Just to many un experienced things to believe in at this time. Your design is still the standard because it incorporates the earth's positional factoids as compared to this universal 360° design. 2 things which still make be lean towards your design are the facts that it makes total sense in the science of our planet's criteria and the fact that you have proven your concept. ( Nothing beats24" of girth in the trussed design, sorry but it's just simple engineering) The other advantage is your design can handle severe snow loads where these geodesic domes are still unproven in 4 feet of snow fall .Let alone their claim of 7 feet .Really? 7 feet of what type of snow? December dry snow or wet March -April snow???? Consider all those joints where water will sit and freeze forcing the panels to separate from the structural ribbing . Out in the high deserts of Arizona, this design would have very little risks, but out in Alberta winter, I am sceptical. 7 feet of snow load ??? Well I find that an unrealistic claim. But what can you expect from the folks out there in Ontario But that's just my realistic precautionary view points. That claim needs more actual testing with the freeze thaw cycling from the CSA of Canada department. (Just to flimsy design in my opinion ).7 feet of snow ???? Yeah right. And my Chevy 454 gets 100 miles per gallon running on gasoline with 4.56 final drives .Cough cough . (Nothing beats girth in truss webbing design). I know that as well as you. Buckministerfuller was the original designer of these geodesic domes structures .( yet another 33°free Mason offering) Anyway my brother ,,,, yet another excellent video on the research side of things in the greenhouse technology. 😊 Well Puck that guy as well as Puckhead Trudeau. 😅 Our native Americans used 30 foot wood poles and built tee pees . Simple conical design with fewer parts . Yeah baby ,now that's the space to look at.. 30 foot diameter at the base ,& more wind resistant,0.05 coefficient snow loading . 75°slope angle. As opposed to 22° degree??? 7 feet snow loading ??? Come on man !!!! This is yet another challenge for you to consider. I'll cough up the research time to locate the 30 foot Lodgepole pine trees to supply a design that has 30 foot diameter at the base circle and 6~8 inch diameter poles . Come on man ! This would be an excellent video!!! You just talk Nathan into this venture (after he's finished his bugout ),8 polesare the minimum but 12 are better for structural loading. Now this would be a cheaper way to go. And the secondary structure would be the polycarbonate panels and framing structure to attach to the 12 poles . I know that you are capable of doing this as long as you have support crew from Nathan brother and possibly Curtis Stone. I would hop on board in an instant if this was a "Go" . Anyway my friend, thanks again for the video. 😊
It's kind of crazy to me that the house I'm currently designing with my wife that has a 70ft long greenhouse built onto the south wall (kind like an Earthship, but post-framed) has the same floor area as that one dome. $60k, though,.... that's a lot.
@@dougjohnson9410 that can definitely be done. I've seen quite a few different takes on that idea. One of my previous designs had a large greenhouse/four-season patio bridging between the smaller house and garage-mahal so if never have to walk outside in the dead of winter or hard rain to hit the gym or work on cars and stuff
If there are fish in the pond the maximum water temperture will be limited. You also have to consider evaporation of the water which will increase the greenhouse RH% but wont increase the temperature.When the humid air meets the cooler glazing you`ll have condensation and potentially indoor rain.
Evacuated tube solar collectors with a water storage mass is probably the best way to heat in Canada, very efficient and work well on short cloudy days. With PV you have high storage costs and they don’t work as well on cloudy days. Why convert the suns energy to electricity then to heat when you can go straight to heat from the sun and easily store that heat for later use.
How do you deal with humidity without dropping your temp? No where near as cold at the bottom of NZ but its around 70-90%RH outside so we need to move some air
Love this! I have looked into this for manitoba region, and i wondered what the heating cost, or what their total cost was to build and set it up for the year?
They definitely went all out on the greenhouse; but you can do a kit however you like. It has a heating cost for sure if you want it tropical all winter, but for all they get for production it would be worth it. No exact numbers for you though. ✌️
Take a look at the 'wallipini' Geothermal partially underground greenhouse kits the elderly man in Nebraska sells. He has a video on you tube with millions of views. Search for : 'Nebraska retiree uses earths's heat to grow oranges in snow' on you tube. A 1785 sq ft geothermal greenhouse maintains a 15 Celsius minimum temp year round . The man in Nebraska grows citrus year round and does not heat at all (or very very minimally) in extreme winter his greenhouse. The kit itself is 20K Canadian . Add the digging of the geothermal canals, and digging the greenhouse itself (8 ft deep) is a total of about 70-75K Canadian . Not cheap but better in a lot of ways than the geodesic dome, for the same amount .
Here in Ontario in my 10 mm polycarbonate covered greenhouse it literally rains inside as we transition from day to night and night to day. I run a lot of fans blowing right across the greenhouse skin. That helps. Just wondered if you have other methods.
@theverdictisstillout Would be more of a issue with 10mm vrs 16mm tripple, it also has a R value , never cool to the touch, moving air is prob best and dehumidifiers
Growing Domes are built to last: engineer rated up to 185km/hour wind speeds, due in part to the geodesic design and the quality building materials. Our US partner has customers who have endured storms with even higher wind speeds in places like Florida, Georgia, and other areas that experience periodic hurricanes and tornados.
I`d guess the shipping weight is at least 2 metric tonnes. There is around 1000kg in the struts and 500kg in the polycarbonate. The money must be in the polycarbonate and labour, because i cant see the dome itself (struts, hubs and pony wall) costing more than a couple of grand in materials.
When using polycarbonate panels in geodesic greenhouses, it's important to note that they usually contain Bisphenol A (BPA), which can leak through condensation onto your produce. 😐
Anywhere that sells timber, aluminum and triple wall polycarbonate. For a 42ft dome like this (excluding any door openings) you`ll need 190 struts, all less than 7ft long, 71 hubs and 120 polycarbonate panels. Base diameter 40.5ft, height 15.5ft, external surface area around 2000sq feet.
I'm not sure if you'd want to go to Utah to visit someone's greenhouse, but they have an extremely low tech system that works amazingly on Chads Midgley's properties... He's on Facebook, Instagram, and a little bit on UA-cam
"they said it couldn't be done, but... we did it." Best quote ever.
That’s when you gotta… because “they” said it. The impossibilities we’re thankful to have done over the years have been fueled by that statement, and fulfilled by the grace of God!
It's amazing how spacious this dome is!
I believe these are the ones made in Pagosa Springs, Colorado and distributed in Canada by another company. I have been in these dozens of times and they are awesome. In Pagosa, where we used to live, many local citizens have them, though the company does sell them to a MUCH bigger market. They are very effective, though my good friends there just put up the 42 ft one this year and start to finish it was $100k for everything, including site work, electric, plumbing, foundation, labor, garden beds, dirt, etc. They have a large family that's now expanding to grandkids, and given the times we live in, they felt the 42ft was the best for their personal needs. It's huge and has a ton of space. With some interior trellising and also vertical growing, you and truly grow a ton of food in there. I've seen people grow figs in the domes at high altitude, zone 4.
Interesting topic. Can you show me more about this? I don't know if you are acquainted with Diamond from Oppenheimer Ranch Project, he is in the Pagosa Springs area as well as Rex Bear . Very cool opportunity to brain storm .
Fantastic tour & conversation! They have done the space so beautifully! Thanks for sharing! I’m sure they’ll be very successful with their sales of plants. Blessings to all 🤗🇨🇦
Amazing. Even with 3 layers of poly, there is still plenty of sunlight getting through to allow all those plants to thrive.
Arctic Acres certainly makes a well built geodesic dome greenhouse klt. Shawn James at My Self Reliance had a 26' one built on his homestead and it works well for him.
I was impressed with it.
very nice green house, hope it goes well for them
Winderdome Resort BC approves this video! Dome On!
Good video Dean, very beautiful greenhouse and so well managed !
With ground register heat exchanger you could reduce heat loss during necessary humidity ventilation.
Have to thank Buckminster Fuller for the Geodesic dome
I really wanted to do a dome greenhouse but the heating was a big concern. However, if you're heating with an outside boiler I could do that but not with natural gas as that is not available here in the Columbia valley BC. Could do a wood heated outside boiler. I wasn't wanting a cement floor as I believe the plants are better growing in the earth as well as wanting to implement passive solar for the most part.
Thank you for the wonderful video . . . you're changing my mind about some of my preconceived notions :)
Very fun to see different setups!
Looks like a really nice design! Thanks for sharing!
Great info
Super Cool ! Thank you for the video and tour
What a great setup. Thanks for the tour.
Very interesting!!
Top vents dump most unwanted humidity out in winter when the sun shines, very manageable!
Problem is you`ll also dump valuable heat along with the humidity.
@JohnGuest45 Doesn't work how you would think, it generates more heat than u want every day of the year, you gotta vent it anyway, it's a solar generator, it works out
@@trentwszolek2387
Venting excess heat into the yard in the winter is a waste if you have the option of storing it in the ground.
Great job yall
Looks great! Smart. Thanks. 👍👍
Awesome I need to get one.
Love it!..
Great
I had planned to get one of these years ago when we lived near Edmonton, but then we ended up moving for education. They have improved with the polycarbonate since I looked at them on the new fangled Google search way back in the olden days. I think I printed off a copy of the web page and put it in my “inspiration” file. A paper file, for the young folks… it is like a file online, but it is a space-consuming paper-filled cabinet. Lol! 😊
The efforts you are making to combat climate change are commendable good sir! Lol good vid
Nice video and overview. Dean you turning into the Bob Villa of green houses. 🤣
I always liked the geodesic homes. I’m currently visiting the Mississippi Gulf Coast and saw one on top of pilings. Bay St Louis was in the eye of Katrina and the new building code along the coast is 30’ above the sea level for your floor elevation.
It would be amazing if it could be permitted as a residence/ greenhouse !
That would be awesome
Well Dean ,,, yet another excellent video about greenhouse survivability.
It's hard for me to have an open mind about these geodesic domes going back from previous experiences, however this video gives me new hope. Just to many un experienced things to believe in at this time.
Your design is still the standard because it incorporates the earth's positional factoids as compared to this universal 360° design.
2 things which still make be lean towards your design are the facts that it makes total sense in the science of our planet's criteria and the fact that you have proven your concept. ( Nothing beats24" of girth in the trussed design, sorry but it's just simple engineering)
The other advantage is your design can handle severe snow loads where these geodesic domes are still unproven in 4 feet of snow fall .Let alone their claim of 7 feet .Really? 7 feet of what type of snow? December dry snow or wet March -April snow????
Consider all those joints where water will sit and freeze forcing the panels to separate from the structural ribbing .
Out in the high deserts of Arizona, this design would have very little risks, but out
in Alberta winter, I am sceptical.
7 feet of snow load ???
Well I find that an unrealistic claim. But what can you expect from the folks out there in Ontario But that's just my realistic precautionary view points. That claim needs more actual testing with the freeze thaw cycling from the CSA of Canada department.
(Just to flimsy design in my opinion ).7 feet of snow ???? Yeah right.
And my Chevy 454 gets 100 miles per gallon running on gasoline with 4.56 final drives .Cough cough . (Nothing beats girth in truss webbing design). I know that as well as you. Buckministerfuller was the original designer of these geodesic domes structures .( yet another 33°free Mason offering)
Anyway my brother ,,,, yet another excellent video on the research side of things in the greenhouse technology. 😊
Well Puck that guy as well as Puckhead Trudeau. 😅
Our native Americans used 30 foot wood poles and built tee pees . Simple conical design with fewer parts .
Yeah baby ,now that's the space to look at..
30 foot diameter at the base ,& more wind resistant,0.05 coefficient snow loading . 75°slope angle. As opposed to 22° degree???
7 feet snow loading ??? Come on man !!!!
This is yet another challenge for you to consider. I'll cough up the research time to locate the 30 foot Lodgepole pine trees to supply a design that has 30 foot diameter at the base circle and 6~8 inch diameter poles .
Come on man ! This would be an excellent video!!! You just talk Nathan into this venture (after he's finished his bugout ),8 polesare the minimum but 12 are better for structural loading.
Now this would be a cheaper way to go.
And the secondary structure would be the polycarbonate panels and framing structure to attach to the 12 poles .
I know that you are capable of doing this as long as you have support crew from Nathan brother and possibly Curtis Stone. I would hop on board in an instant if this was a "Go" .
Anyway my friend, thanks again for the video. 😊
Tipi would be fun. Maybe someday. 👍
Wish I had space for something like this.
Can probably do a small one. Just dig the middle deeper down for trees.
What do they say about travel..? Great content Dean
It's kind of crazy to me that the house I'm currently designing with my wife that has a 70ft long greenhouse built onto the south wall (kind like an Earthship, but post-framed) has the same floor area as that one dome. $60k, though,.... that's a lot.
Keep us up to date on your progress please.
That’s amazing I been looking into more Earthship styles…
Good luck with your build. I'd love to build a big greenhouse like that and just put a tiny home in there
@@dougjohnson9410 that can definitely be done. I've seen quite a few different takes on that idea. One of my previous designs had a large greenhouse/four-season patio bridging between the smaller house and garage-mahal so if never have to walk outside in the dead of winter or hard rain to hit the gym or work on cars and stuff
The high school in Lacombe uses solar thermal tubes to heat the water in the fish pond which becomes the thermal mass to keep the greenhouse warm.
I’ll mention that to Trent. He’s likely doing some solar PV water heating projects like I still plan on doing. 👍
If there are fish in the pond the maximum water temperture will be limited. You also have to consider evaporation of the water which will increase the greenhouse RH% but wont increase the temperature.When the humid air meets the cooler glazing you`ll have condensation and potentially indoor rain.
There are 3 more by red deer and 1 in Rochester Alberta just went up in the last couple of years!
Evacuated tube solar collectors with a water storage mass is probably the best way to heat in Canada, very efficient and work well on short cloudy days. With PV you have high storage costs and they don’t work as well on cloudy days. Why convert the suns energy to electricity then to heat when you can go straight to heat from the sun and easily store that heat for later use.
How do you deal with humidity without dropping your temp?
No where near as cold at the bottom of NZ but its around 70-90%RH outside so we need to move some air
Release humidity during sunny days when you have to release heat anyways
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Looks awesome much smaller scale fore me though 🥴
How about light? How could you grow something so north in winter without supplemental light?
Love this! I have looked into this for manitoba region, and i wondered what the heating cost, or what their total cost was to build and set it up for the year?
They definitely went all out on the greenhouse; but you can do a kit however you like. It has a heating cost for sure if you want it tropical all winter, but for all they get for production it would be worth it. No exact numbers for you though. ✌️
Take a look at the 'wallipini' Geothermal partially underground greenhouse kits the elderly man in Nebraska sells. He has a video on you tube with millions of views.
Search for :
'Nebraska retiree uses earths's heat to grow oranges in snow' on you tube.
A 1785 sq ft geothermal greenhouse maintains a 15 Celsius minimum temp year round .
The man in Nebraska grows citrus year round and does not heat at all (or very very minimally) in extreme winter his greenhouse.
The kit itself is 20K Canadian .
Add the digging of the geothermal canals, and digging the greenhouse itself (8 ft deep) is a total of about 70-75K Canadian .
Not cheap but better in a lot of ways than the geodesic dome, for the same amount .
Please if you could answer this question- How do you handle humidity in this greenhouse?
Venting all day in summer, and a short time in winter fixes any unwanted humidity
@@ArkopiaUA-cam and the prairies are relatively quite dry
Here in Ontario in my 10 mm polycarbonate covered greenhouse it literally rains inside as we transition from day to night and night to day. I run a lot of fans blowing right across the greenhouse skin. That helps. Just wondered if you have other methods.
@theverdictisstillout Would be more of a issue with 10mm vrs 16mm tripple, it also has a R value , never cool to the touch, moving air is prob best and dehumidifiers
What kind of wind can it withstand?
We live in the prairies where the wind never stops. A dome is a strong structure
Growing Domes are built to last: engineer rated up to 185km/hour wind speeds, due in part to the geodesic design and the quality building materials. Our US partner has customers who have endured storms with even higher wind speeds in places like Florida, Georgia, and other areas that experience periodic hurricanes and tornados.
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not to burst my own bubble but can you estimate what the basic cost was?
How much were all the fittings minus wood and poly carbonate for that big?
You cant typically buy hub plates on their own but you`d need 71 for a 4v dome like this. Could be built for a fraction of the retail price.
Whoa this is awesome.
Suspect shipping costs to UK might be a tad eyewatering sadly..
I`d guess the shipping weight is at least 2 metric tonnes. There is around 1000kg in the struts and 500kg in the polycarbonate. The money must be in the polycarbonate and labour, because i cant see the dome itself (struts, hubs and pony wall) costing more than a couple of grand in materials.
@@JohnGuest45 I'm guessing therefore that it's going to be "that's a negative ghostrider"
:)
A sad disappointing but what an awesome setup you have.
@@Joseph_Dredd
I guess the shipping cost might look quite reasonable compared to the import VAT :)
@@JohnGuest45 Hahaha yes I'd forgotten aboutt he eye watering 20% VAT on top - thieving bastards that HMRC are!
Any contact info for Dayna, i would like to visit her on Friday May 10 is her dome open for sale that day
Here’s their Facebook page to reach out: The Dome Garden: facebook.com/share/iq4uQ6pyspRMvQXU/?mibextid=LQQJ4d
@@ArkopiaUA-cam thank you
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When using polycarbonate panels in geodesic greenhouses, it's important to note that they usually contain Bisphenol A (BPA), which can leak through condensation onto your produce. 😐
Where can I buy the parts
Anywhere that sells timber, aluminum and triple wall polycarbonate. For a 42ft dome like this (excluding any door openings) you`ll need 190 struts, all less than 7ft long, 71 hubs and 120 polycarbonate panels. Base diameter 40.5ft, height 15.5ft, external surface area around 2000sq feet.
Is nice when u own your land😢
WOOD WILL ROT! Waste of time. Use anything but
Depends on what you use to protect it.
Ceader has natural oils resistant to rot, will go 20 plus years on a deck unprotected, forever under a roof
Lady said ...cedar won't rot in their lifetime
@@kelllefae3026
Bigelow Brook Farm used western red cedar for his dome and it rotted.
I'm not sure if you'd want to go to Utah to visit someone's greenhouse, but they have an extremely low tech system that works amazingly on Chads Midgley's properties... He's on Facebook, Instagram, and a little bit on UA-cam
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