Curving arrows with a war bow

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
  • It always brings me joy when a trick is doable with regular gear! It just hits different to modded shots 😁
    (Not everything we do as trick shooters would hold up in a combat scenario, but I will always at least try to be open about the downsides!)
    If you want to watch some videos explaining the technique for these shots, (or if you just want to support me) check out my patreon:
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    Bow: MR Bows Tiron 126lb@32"
    String: Freelance Archery
    Arrows: Alibow Manchu Arrows

КОМЕНТАРІ • 135

  • @ImplodingChicken
    @ImplodingChicken Рік тому +383

    A technique like this might be more useful as an intimidation tool than as an actual attack. You might not hit a target around a blind corner or might not pierce their armor, but you sure as hell will scare the crap out of them, especially if they have no archery training themselves.

    • @blumineck
      @blumineck  Рік тому +154

      Intimidation is a useful asset for sure! It all depends on having obstacles in the right places though! Many historical battles took place in fairly open environments, so this would very much be a niche shot

    • @ImplodingChicken
      @ImplodingChicken Рік тому +19

      @@blumineck For sure. But fun to imagine! Nice video!

    • @DuelistFencing
      @DuelistFencing Рік тому +4

      ​@@blumineckBut you could for example shoot an enemy who is currently fighting an allied infantry soldier, right?

    • @blumineck
      @blumineck  Рік тому +31

      @@DuelistFencing maybe in a skirmish, but but not in a pitched battle- infantry tended to fight in dense formations

    • @jonnnnniej
      @jonnnnniej Рік тому

      Just aim for the eyes :')

  • @kilo3989
    @kilo3989 Рік тому +271

    Possible, practical, and repeatable. Important points!

  • @jonathanwessner3456
    @jonathanwessner3456 Рік тому +14

    Imagine taking out an unarmored lord or commander by curving the arrow around one of his guards. The panic it would cause. Also, great way to deliver a message arrow, without them knowing where the shot came from. "Arrows fly straight, so he must be over there!"

  • @lordofuzkulak8308
    @lordofuzkulak8308 Рік тому +97

    Not practical in irl/historical settings, but for fantasy/sci-fi, the weakness of the impact is why you start investing in explosive tips for your arrows. 😉

  • @sldenn5303
    @sldenn5303 Рік тому +52

    If the stars are aligned… I would 100% take the shot. Good advice for life, too. I’ll take this man as a motivational speaker any day. 🥰

    • @blumineck
      @blumineck  Рік тому +22

      Haha thank you! As a great fictional archer once said: "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take"

  • @hartthorn
    @hartthorn Рік тому +21

    I'd say it can also be an element of "non-standard success requirement". If the goal is simply to deliver some kind of small payload to a space that is directly inaccessible, it gains added practicality. Like some Hawkeye BS. Deliver a tracker, paint a target, deliver a message. Or even the fairly straight-forward aim of "flaming arrow into a waiting explosive from behind cover".

    • @blumineck
      @blumineck  Рік тому +14

      Oh for sure! 😁 like I said, if the stars align

  • @joda7697
    @joda7697 Рік тому +30

    You could do it just for the intimidation: "You aren't safe behind that cover!"

    • @Ithirahad
      @Ithirahad Рік тому +11

      Yeh, even if it isn't especially deadly, it seems good enough for suppression and bullying someone around in the right situation. Also with gimmicky things like grenade/hornet/etc. arrows, what really matters is just getting the warhead where you want it...

    • @blumineck
      @blumineck  Рік тому +12

      If you've got enough arrows spare for suppression shots, then absolutely!

  • @Scario45
    @Scario45 Рік тому +91

    For me it is like shuriken jutsu/knife throwing or jumping and spinning kicks. These techniques are very difficult to master, they require a lifetime of training but if you are dedicated to do this even if in 99% situation you will stick to the simplest and most effective techniques at the end you only have to need it once to make a difference and create a surprising effect
    In my opinion this is how it works

    • @Devilspade
      @Devilspade Рік тому +2

      ....weeb

    • @rowanfynn6518
      @rowanfynn6518 Рік тому +9

      to play devil's advocate technically a good jump kick is good to knock someone off a horse. It is quite situational though

    • @Scario45
      @Scario45 Рік тому +5

      @@rowanfynn6518 Yeah I totally agree, even in MMA fight you see that kind of thing very often, because it is surprising and unexpected.
      But what is common with archery trickshot is the comparison between the amount of training and the result.
      Still I think a warrior who has dedicated his life to master his art will perform this.

    • @blumineck
      @blumineck  Рік тому +23

      I'm inclined to agree. If I was going into battle, I'd want to be really good at regular shooting, but if I could also do speed shooting and other niche techniques, then it would give me some more options in a pinch

    • @SwordsMaster7.
      @SwordsMaster7. Рік тому +3

      ​@@rowanfynn6518 Off a horse? You'd have to have a supernaturally good jump kick, and they'd better not be armed, (Saber against leg is an encounter with a rather predictable ending), but it's an amusing concept.

  • @ProPirateRyan
    @ProPirateRyan Рік тому +15

    Great video! In Deep Rock Galactic, the scouts crossbow can shoot (among many wild trick bolts) special "Banshee Module" whistle bolts which, as far as I can tell, just have a whistle on them so they make a scary scream noise as they fly at a target, and it inflicts an AOE fear effect. Seems super cool to me, I'd be interested to see if you could come up with some kinda "screaming banshee" trick arrow that works with your bow. Whatever you find, I think you and your channel are really really cool :)

    • @yetanother9127
      @yetanother9127 Рік тому +5

      Noisemaker arrows were a thing historically, like the Japanese kabura-ya, which had a ritual purpose but were also used to deliver messages since the noise could allow you to more easily find where the arrow landed.

    • @Leo.23232
      @Leo.23232 Рік тому +1

      signal arrows were commonly used already, but they arent very effective heads for damage

    • @draegonspawn5361
      @draegonspawn5361 Рік тому +1

      Screaming arrows are real, a quick search will find you tons of videos.
      Issue is the head shapes needed for good sound make them bad against even light armor.

  • @darkfrozensword
    @darkfrozensword Рік тому +48

    There's a Korean movie named "War of the Arrows" (2011) where the protagonist is able to curve his arrows, which I thought was really cool. Thanks for demonstrating that it is possible and, with the right equipment, it is practical.
    I would like to see a second camera placed at the target dummies to show the arrows hitting them.

    • @blumineck
      @blumineck  Рік тому +8

      I did try to show multiple angles for these shots!

  • @veermudambi5795
    @veermudambi5795 Рік тому +4

    I instinctively winced when he pointed the bow at the camera before remembering a) I was watching this on my phone and b) he probably set up a camera beforehand so there was no one holding it.

  • @zeroblade6599
    @zeroblade6599 Рік тому +2

    Maybe not super war practical, but if you can shoot someone hiding behind a tree, even if it's not a killing shot but just to flush them out of cover, I think a lot of medieval bigwigs would find that worth investing in. Could be a sort of specialist archer, just mix a couple into a regiment to demonstrate to the enemy hiding won't prevent getting hit.

  • @anitabalcer-whittle
    @anitabalcer-whittle Рік тому +2

    I know it’s not as effective as a straight up shot, but a warbow curving shot that can still injure an exposed bit of skin is terrifying! One for the rouge rolling advantage on attacks to try.

  • @Leandro-vy7nj
    @Leandro-vy7nj Рік тому +1

    "If I had the chance to shoot someone around an obstacle, I would 100% take the shot."
    Alright, note to self : Always stand in direct eyeshot of this man

  • @lovelydragon23
    @lovelydragon23 Рік тому

    I suddenly need to write something with a really good archer character and have them kill something behind a barrier. That’s so sick

  • @DracoInduperator
    @DracoInduperator Рік тому +6

    In a real battle you also have to keep in mind how much stamina you use and don't hurt yourself trying to do anything fancy or to fast

    • @blumineck
      @blumineck  Рік тому +9

      That's very true! Many archery tactics were intended to be repeatable over long periods of time!
      That said, faster shooting is a useful skill if it can get you out of a tight corner when needed

  • @sinimeg
    @sinimeg Рік тому +4

    This is gold, thank you very much ❤

  • @ComputerSchool101
    @ComputerSchool101 Рік тому +2

    If I'm hiding around a corner, and my armor got hit by an arrow (even with no damage) I would know I was fighting archery gods and give up then and there. Lol

  • @bastienfelix4605
    @bastienfelix4605 Рік тому +2

    The bard is at it again

  • @SubacaiDarkwing
    @SubacaiDarkwing Рік тому

    Nice little mantra there, "Possible, practical and repeatable ". Might have to use that in other parts of life!
    As always, an entertaining and informative vid. 😸 Nice to know curved shots are worth doing in the right circumstances. Even a glancing hit might be enough depending on circumstances!

  • @NevTheDeranged
    @NevTheDeranged Рік тому +2

    Popular media seems to deal in sort of abstract ideals of things, rather than mucking about with physics. Like, a bow's purpose is to shoot arrows, therefore it does. An arrow's purpose is to pierce a target, therefore it does. Energy, friction, gravity, all these mechanical ideas can go suck eggs.

  • @enter_eagle
    @enter_eagle Рік тому +1

    sometimes you just need to break concentration and a lil bonk is enough

  • @ДарьяСавицкая-ъ7з

    God, I just love your vibes 💔

  • @Draconicrose
    @Draconicrose Рік тому +2

    I still don't know how the sideways draw makes it curve but it looks cool af!

  • @matesafranka6110
    @matesafranka6110 Рік тому +1

    Possible, practical and repeatable, for a look that's both stylish and practical! #IYKYK

  • @drewstratton1256
    @drewstratton1256 Рік тому +1

    Yes! Arrow science!! For when you absolutely, positively need to knock the poisoned chalice out of your liege's hand without breaking stealth.
    What are the mechanics of wonking the arrow down the string actually curving it?

  • @Ragtter
    @Ragtter Рік тому +1

    I'm LEARNING

  • @danieldishon688
    @danieldishon688 Рік тому +2

    Okay so in a war battlefield its no good, but Archers/rouges shouldn't be on the front lines anyway. So on sneaky spy stealth missions, special situation trick shots could be a regular asset. You don't have to expose yourself while taking out an enemy around the corner. Or you can send your inside man/damsel in distress a note on an arrow even when a straight shot to their room isn't perfectly available. Maybe you could even confuse a group of guards on where your shots are coming from giving you more time to pick them all off before the actually find you.

  • @URvlogger5098
    @URvlogger5098 Рік тому +1

    If one were to use poisoned tips tho.... Well... I see this working for a very particular build... 😈

  • @kaiaskosmos
    @kaiaskosmos Рік тому +1

    I was just looking for your videos, lol

  • @Wilhelm92
    @Wilhelm92 Рік тому +1

    TIRON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @GabrielPinheiro3001
    @GabrielPinheiro3001 8 місяців тому

    You could draw it vertical to curve down and hit someone behind cover with a lot more power than a side shot

  • @claire2088
    @claire2088 8 місяців тому

    I feel like this would mostly be used to scare the crap out of someone in a situation where they're hiding behind an object or corner like it might not cause that much damage, but if you're trying to flush them out you'd have the time to mess about with less efficient techniques and pull out those weird arrows that are only used for one thing.

  • @sread13
    @sread13 Рік тому +3

    Commenting on all of your videos until you tell me where you get those tunics

  • @Orynae
    @Orynae Рік тому +1

    Where is your shirt from? It looks really cool and fantasy! I need more asymmetric clothes lol

  • @Depressed45506
    @Depressed45506 9 місяців тому

    Im a huge fan of archery and looking up places in Finland to start

  • @bopendleton4920
    @bopendleton4920 Рік тому +2

    Where did you buy your bow?

  • @jacobwatson4235
    @jacobwatson4235 Рік тому +1

    Where did you get the 120lb recurve bow, im looking to get one

  • @awdrifter3394
    @awdrifter3394 Рік тому +1

    But can you make an arrow complete a full circle though. J/k

  • @outsidestuff5283
    @outsidestuff5283 Рік тому +13

    This whole channel makes me question my sexuality a little

  • @mercykok2635
    @mercykok2635 Рік тому +2

    Might not be effective but it is cool.

  • @mikerosoft2179
    @mikerosoft2179 Рік тому +2

    Arrows could surely be modified to weaponise trick shots i.e. explosive arrows or vapor arrows.

    • @mk_gamíng0609
      @mk_gamíng0609 11 місяців тому

      But then that adds weight
      Despite how tech has changed arrows fundamentally stay the same
      Balancing the weight of the arrow with the power of the bow.

    • @mikerosoft2179
      @mikerosoft2179 11 місяців тому

      @@mk_gamíng0609 true. i guess you'd have to use some kind of specific material combo (a mx of different densities) to create matching weight maybe

  • @andrewbutton2039
    @andrewbutton2039 Рік тому +1

    But Lars Anderson said...

  • @xxlCortez
    @xxlCortez 11 місяців тому

    I thought you need to be a Schwarzenegger-built guy to use a 120 lbs bow.

  • @jjhannah7825
    @jjhannah7825 Місяць тому

    What kind of bows do you use

  • @viviana8577
    @viviana8577 Рік тому +1

    If you are good enough that you could aim for an eye...

  • @zeemilios9327
    @zeemilios9327 Рік тому

    Are... Are you Tom Scott's nephew or something

  • @rotamrofsnart
    @rotamrofsnart Рік тому

    Is the Bioneer your dad?

  • @rangertalksdogsgames7996
    @rangertalksdogsgames7996 Рік тому

    Bro you can dance, shoot, got strong af muscles, is there anything your not good at?!

  • @AmandaabnamA
    @AmandaabnamA 8 місяців тому

    I feel like I can trust you because you look like an elf

  • @crimson0004
    @crimson0004 Рік тому

    hop off the fence

  • @warmchoccy
    @warmchoccy Рік тому +250

    As others have pointed out, you don’t just go “that’s not how it’s 100% done irl so it’s bad” when talking about weird techniques or arrow gimmicks, you actually try your best to make it work, while still being realistic with their upsides and downsides. You’re easily my favorite medieval weapon UA-camr!

    • @blumineck
      @blumineck  Рік тому +64

      Thank you so much! I'm really glad you enjoy this stuff, because I love making them!

  • @krito5832
    @krito5832 Рік тому +42

    In the past days you've showed up several times in my recommendations. I have no idea who you are or why you seem to have an endless amount of bows but the videos are really cool. Maybe I should get myself a bow as well. Great videos.

    • @Baalur
      @Baalur Рік тому +5

      You should! Archery is fun.

    • @blumineck
      @blumineck  Рік тому +6

      I can recommend it for sure!

  • @Lily-hf7kw
    @Lily-hf7kw Рік тому +21

    He’s so cool!!

  • @kathavb
    @kathavb Рік тому +56

    “I can get a pretty dramatic curve off a 50lbs bow…” Me, struggling with 24lbs: “You what now?”

    • @blumineck
      @blumineck  Рік тому +32

      In my defence, I've been at this for a while

    • @PXCharon
      @PXCharon Рік тому +14

      Learning to activate the correct muscles, and training them, takes time. I've taught quite a few large, strong men how to shoot, and they have issues at about 30lb in the beginning.
      I highly recommend having a proper coach to help out with form. Biomechanics is everything.
      That said, unless you need a heavier bow for a specific purpose. 24lbs is plenty and draw weight should never be confused with skill.

    • @blumineck
      @blumineck  Рік тому +15

      @@PXCharon absolutely true! Heavy draw weights are mostly a bragging rights thing (or a historical comparisons thing, which is why I'm learning them). But I have a lot more fun shooting mid weights than with the really heavy ones

    • @VampiricFox37
      @VampiricFox37 Рік тому +3

      The bow I practice with is a 20 lb, but it's a cheap compound and right handed (I'm a lefty, which is why I enjoy watching this channel so much). Id like a recurve, but it's difficult getting one where I'm at.
      I had bought a 60 lb compound that was left handed but I could barely draw it and had to be quite serious about pulling the string back.

  • @mjolnir3309
    @mjolnir3309 Рік тому +6

    Sometimes the shot isn't about doing damage as much as what it causes them to do. Simply the fear of being hit behind an obstacles can be enough to cause a mistake. Also, it can force them to move, or their horse.
    Not something you'd do often, but in the right circumstances it could be quite effective.

  • @ethanmarchant3818
    @ethanmarchant3818 Рік тому +5

    Your neighbours must love looking at their windows everyday to see you jumping on poles and shooting arrows upside down

  • @LibraryAce
    @LibraryAce Рік тому +3

    But it will definitely surprise them! That could be worth something, in addition to the confidence boost of (maybe) actually making the shot.

  • @leonatati
    @leonatati Рік тому +10

    I love these explanations!

  • @KudaGeatsune3821
    @KudaGeatsune3821 Рік тому +5

    Trick or not it's pretty cool to see done in reality

  • @RoughWalkers
    @RoughWalkers Рік тому +1

    Isnt owning a bow very illegal in the UK

  • @louisvictor3473
    @louisvictor3473 Рік тому +2

    I wouldn't expect people to carry modified arrows "just in case", but if it were practical to modify an arrow on the fly though, that could change things in that scenario imo. I will say, very unlikely in historical context, but in a higher tech or high magic scenario that can modify the shape of the arrow and the way it does damage (a curvy arrow that explodes on impact, shocks or releases gas is about as good as a straight shot on the chest), I could imagine it being more standard in battle.

  • @docternoblex
    @docternoblex Рік тому +1

    I would take the curved shot solely to scare the opponent out of cover if I had the opportunity

  • @iseriver3982
    @iseriver3982 Рік тому +1

    Gee, what online archer would be so insecure or egotistical to distort facts for clout? (cough) Lars and shadiversity (cough)

  • @Dawnbandit1
    @Dawnbandit1 Рік тому +4

    The Tom Scott of archery.

    • @linearfoldsmom
      @linearfoldsmom Рік тому

      i was thinking the exact same thing at the end

  • @neilconnell3718
    @neilconnell3718 Рік тому +1

    @blumineck Question: In the videos I've seen you do all these trick/ tactic shots with a standard bow/ recurve. But what about Compound bow like in the TV Series Arrow, is it possible to do any of these things you've covered with a more modern high-tech style bow? I'm curious to see if any of these are possible or just fun Hollywood scenes.

  • @FulltimeHafling
    @FulltimeHafling Рік тому +1

    ...so, what you're saying is: Shoot them with a curving arrow to distract, then parkour your way around the obstacle and loose a deathly arrow as you leap through the air.
    Noted!

  • @xanitajobe5920
    @xanitajobe5920 Рік тому +1

    In Robin Hood Prince of Thieves, when Robin bites the edge of a feather from an arrow and notches two together at the same time and fires, he strikes both enemies, is that likely to not actually work IRL? Just curious 🤷🏼‍♀️ not trying to start a war in the comments 😅💕

  • @arkimist2186
    @arkimist2186 Рік тому +1

    or you could just side-step

  • @cryptid_deity
    @cryptid_deity Рік тому +1

    Really interesting!

  • @mythmakroxymore1670
    @mythmakroxymore1670 Рік тому +1

    Get this man in touch with the guys doing animations for Legend of Vox Machina.

  • @NetherWyvern
    @NetherWyvern Рік тому +1

    Your videos are all short and sweet. I'd love you to do a video one time for wannabe archers on, what type of bow one should start with. It is so daunting looking are so many options and types. How did you start? Either way keep up the good content ❤

  • @aqueelkadri8371
    @aqueelkadri8371 Рік тому +1

    I just hope the guy behind the obstacle isn't holding a glock

    • @SupahTrunks7
      @SupahTrunks7 Рік тому +1

      well hes not gonna be able to curve a bullet the way you can curve an arrow so id say we're still pretty safe as long as we can KEEP him behind that obstacle

  • @ananonymousnerd.2179
    @ananonymousnerd.2179 Рік тому +1

    If the arrow itself doesn't need to do much damage but just needs to deliver something, this could be really useful. I'm thinking messages tied around the shaft (the curving arrow is unlikely to injure an armored recipient), or even dangerous stuff. Fantasy applications could include exploding arrows, lethal even without needing to hit the target.

  • @-fazik-3713
    @-fazik-3713 Рік тому +1

    100%

  • @fodder8062
    @fodder8062 Рік тому +1

    I was wondering: Do you know how to make a good strong bow out of something like trees? It would be interesting to know.

  • @Burnlit1337
    @Burnlit1337 4 місяці тому

    Wow, the algo has been feeding me those turning arrow trick shots, then your amazing videos. Finally it gave me this that concludes it for me. Still gonna try to do trick shots but atleast I now know how useless it will be. Also just realized why all of those other videos uses fragile or weaken targets .

  • @TwoWholeWorms
    @TwoWholeWorms 10 місяців тому

    My face when that first arrow goes "fwonnggg!" off in a different direction mid-flight. 😮

  • @douglaswolfen7820
    @douglaswolfen7820 Рік тому

    Should we be concerned that you left "…and if I had a good reason to shoot at them" off that list? 😉
    "For the benefit of the jury, would you please explain __why__ you were shooting arrows at the deceased?" "Well he just made such a good target…”

  • @0ooTheMAXXoo0
    @0ooTheMAXXoo0 11 місяців тому

    Lots of cultures use powerful bows with a short sideways draw. Just to point out that the sideways draw does not have to mean a less powerful draw, it depends what the bow was made to do. If the bow maxes out at a 20 inch draw, then you will not be able to make it more powerful by holding it vertically.

  • @kindredtoast3439
    @kindredtoast3439 11 місяців тому

    Use it to shoot around the knight and hit the wizard who isn't wearing armor.

  • @Grim712
    @Grim712 Рік тому

    Are bows made to standardised sizes and would there be any noticable benefit to have a bow custom made for your specific body proportions?

    • @0ooTheMAXXoo0
      @0ooTheMAXXoo0 11 місяців тому

      You definitely want a bow that matches your most comfortable draw length. Shorter bows generally will be more efficient, but the arrow being pushed by the string for a longer time can give it more speed. If the bow has too short of a draw, it can feel like it is cramping you, if the bow has a longer draw than what is comfortable for you, then you loose efficiency. Some styles use the feeling of the bow reaching its max draw as a trigger point...

  • @eric_moore-6126
    @eric_moore-6126 Рік тому

    I realized when you switched to the war bow in this video that you don't use an arm guard, and it hurts my arm just thinking about it.

    • @0ooTheMAXXoo0
      @0ooTheMAXXoo0 11 місяців тому

      You should not be hitting your arm if you draw the bow the right way. You can find videos of pros showing you how to avoid it.

  • @hmmkin6729
    @hmmkin6729 Рік тому +2

    Archers when i show up in my master-crafted full plate armour made out of the finest materials (even their longbows are useless):

    • @JimRFF
      @JimRFF Рік тому

      And then there's the moment you see that one stinky illiterate French peasant with a crossbow...

  • @BanAnAss69
    @BanAnAss69 Рік тому +1

    Are you right or left hand dominant?