Couple of thoughts as a fellow HPSP student: 1) The monthly stipend is slightly higher if you have dependents. 2) with dependents, you also receive housing and grocery allowance during the active-duty tour. Not sure if it’s the same without. 3) If you commission very close to starting med school as I did, there is a pay delay. You won’t be paid right when school starts.
I did the entire HPSP thing. Went into surgery and did a fellowship. BIGGEST MISTAKE OF MY LIFE. If one person can read this and stop themselves, I succeeded.
Student Physician Network I can list a few things : 1. Very frequent deployments that are not fruitful in terms of operating. Skill degradation is a major issue 2. Low case volume and complexity stateside so not much better when home 3. Poor pay. Bonuses have not increased in almost 30 yrs. not even adjusted for inflation 4. Headache of now being assigned to FORSCOM units with leaders who have no clue how to use you. You now have even more pointless training exercises year around further hurting operative time 5.Administrative headaches and clipboard carrying nurses in charge that have zero clue about your specialty 6. List goes on n on
Did you apply to or consider attending the uniformed services university (USUHS) in Maryland? I hope to get accepted there when the time comes but I understand it’s pretty difficult to get in. Thanks for the great video as always!
I didnt! I was dead set on UNMC, but I think it would have been cool! I didnt even consider military until after I got accepted into school. I wish you best of luck in your journey!
Yes, it covers tuition and fees. You owe 1 year for every year you receive a scholarship & 1 year for every year of residency. BUT residency and scholarship time commitments are paid back SIMULTANEOUSLY (meaning the time you actually owe is whatever is longer med school or residency) For example, if I have a 4 year scholarship and go into a 5 year residency, I owe 5 years. Hope this helps
I need a straight up answer please. If a person gets accepted into Neuro Surgery and they decide flat out that that’s their specialty and “nothing” can change their mind, but the Air Force says they need general doctors and want you to go that rout. Can the they forcefully change your choice for you (you don’t change it yourself they do without your consent)?
As far as i know. NO they cannot, but you still need to be able to match in that specialty. If I remember there is only 1 neurosurgery spot in the airforce.... if you don't match you'll get put into an internship year (probably general surgery) and can reapply next year. If you don't match the mext time your only option is to become a GMO or flight surgeon. This is where you can get into trouble and get put behind. It is very similar to civilian, but only in civilian if you don't match you dont have a job at all and you'll be in $200,000 in debt. That is the difference.
This was actually really helpful right now I want to go special forces but like medical so PJs or Navy SARCs but since I’ve always wanted to go to college for waterpolo and PJs and Sarcs are enlisted I was planing on majoring in Aerospace engineering and going into the space force as a developmental engineer but now I’m also considering medicine and maybe SOSTs(Special Operations Surgical Teams) I’m just wondering if I could play a sport possibly D1 and do medical school?
Yes I have students in my class who were D1 athletes at university of Nebraska. Just know getting into medical school is a substantial task. Being a college athlete and a premed student is one of the hardest things anyone can do. You'll need to be ready for that type of commitment and be ready for the long stressful road it entails.
You will basically live wherever you can get a job. Some sites you want to live may have an opening and you'll be able to live there others wont so you may have to pick another base/city to live in. When you work though you can live on base/offense in whatever housing you decide. Also depends on where you end up working, but that's for the US.
I'm probably going to try and hold off until they make me! Uniforms aren't cheap and I havent gotten much wear out of those ABUs! It will probably be in a year or so!
I’m a bit late but can I ask why you decided on the Air Force vs the Navy or Army? I’m a current premed but I have interest in military medicine and debating between the Army or Air Force if and when the time comes.
I'm thinking about making a video on this. But in short I chose AirForce because they treat you a little better and have nice resources to offer. In the army I think you feel more like a number than a person.
What would it mean to be deployed as a military physician? Is it working at a military hospital abroad? My biggest concern being head of a young family is whether this scholarship would end up separating me from my family. No one ever seems to answer this, though I know I have heard of military doctors being deployed (as one would expect.) I just want to know what to expect so I can judge freedoms versus service and just be prepared for what military doctor life is actually like.
You know im not 100% sure yet. As far as i can tell yes it'd be working at a base abroad. But you could also get stationed abroad and not technically be deployed.
You need to start when you go to college and your number 1 priority will be getting into medical school. After you get into medical school you can worry about HPSP in the military. I would recommend getting in contact with a premeditated advisor in college as soon as possible to make sure you are on the right track.
It shouldn't matter any college or university that has a good science department and you can get a degree in biology, chemistry, or biochem will be good. When searching for college just ask to speak to someone in the science department in one of those majors to and ask them about their success getting people into med school is.
You know I'm not really sure. There is definitely a need for optometrists. I couldn't see why they wouldnt have a program. I'd say reach out to a recruiter to find out!
Does the HPSP cover dorm expenses if any? I want to study at UF as they offer the program and scholarship that I want , but it is in Gainesville, and I am in Jacksonville.
What do you mean by dorm expenses? HPSP pays you a monthly living stipend while you attend medical school or dental school. That stipend is to be used toward rent and other bills. If you accept HPSP, that will be your only scholarship.
You will get paid a standard stipend about $2,200/month until you graduate. Then you will matching your residency and be paid as a captain for the time of your residency and work as a doc for your specified base. You will not be working for the VA, a separate entity.
Were they requiring you to purchase mess dress during your time at COT? I went through in 2009 and I was not required to buy mess dress. I didn’t buy it until 2017. AF dentist here.
They were trying to make us buy it, but the store didnt have enough mess dress for everyone. It was honestly a little shady how they tried to press it on some people
I am working along through my CBT trainings, and there are so many videos and modules that I have just zoomed through as fast as I could to get them done. Many of them are random, like about the Air Force involvement in different wars. I just watched the introductory video again, and it suggested that I take notes in the pdf note taker because I would be held accountable for this information at OTS. How much of the CBT trainings are truly relevant for Commissioned Officer Training (COT)? What will I be learning during lectures at COT? I thought we primarily learned the OTSMAN material? I am just concerned because I don’t want to be tested on all this material later, but need to know if that’s the case.
So if I remember right the CBT trainings werent exactly that important, but more so that you just preview them before attending. Most of the stuff will be covered again during OTS. When you attend OTS, you will be taking classes most of the day in a lecture hall. All of that material is important for the exams you are required to pass with an 80% average. The exams can be tricky, but if you pay attention and take notes you'll be just fine! You will also be taking an OTSMAN test too, but that does not count toward your exam average. Learning the OTSMAN is more important to know so you dont get yelled at as much. Hope this helps!
is AEGD OR GPR why would the other be easier to promote than credential tour becuase wouldn't that be working with the military so easier to promote? If u know anything about this or about promoting to O4 and choosing a specialty please do a video
Hello! Do you think the school where you took your prerequisites matter when applying for medical school? I’m starting my undergrad this fall but going to a community college. Is a bachelors required for this program? Would love to hear your thoughts on this. Thank you!
Although technically a bachelor's is not a requirement, medical schools have requirements of what classes you need to take that community colleges typically don't offer.
How old is this video? I read the stipend as of 2019/2020 was more like $2,391 (and I've even heard it was being moved to $2,461)? I'm not including tax, but I don't imagine that knocking out nearly $300...
Hi! When did you start working with a recruiter for the scholarship admission? Was in concurrent with applying to med school or were already accepted to to a school(s)?
Most people start talking to a recruiter once they submit their AMCAS application for med school. I started talking to a recruiter once i was accepted! But also got accepted to school in October so I was early anyway.
Can you clarify the commitment? If I take HPSP from 1st year of medical school, that will be 4 years of school plus 3 years of residency, so i will owe 7 years ?
Oh that's great to know!! Then yes apply or contact a recruiter while you're applying for school you'll want to get the paperwork done earlier the better!
I believe you'd have to wear glasses, but later when your Active duty they may be willing to approve your lasik. Im also interested in doing this when im active duty and have tricare
I'm not for sure how this will work. As far as I understand you will need to either go to an undergraduate program and be sponsored; go to airforce academy, or go to undergrad and then apply to HPSP to become an airforce doc.
Great video! I was told by my recruiter that I was selected for the HPSP in the Army. I start med school July 13th but I still havent heard anything about my scholarship even though I was told I was selected back in December. I have no idea what's happening and it is a bit concerning. Would you have any advice for this situation I'm in?
Congratulations! Yes, recruiters can be very frustrating and only responsive when convenient for them. I'd say keep following up with him. I know when I got selected it still took months before I finally commissioned and signed.
Thanks for the feedback. Check out my other videos to see more info about HPSP or check out Student Doctor Feery who has great in depth videos. This video was specifically about the HPSP stipend and was highly requested from subscribers.
Angie Qualifying students can receive full tuition for any accredited medical, dental, veterinary, psychiatric nurse practitioner, psychology or optometry program, plus a generous monthly stipend of more than $2,300
i want to join the army when i’m 17, and enlist into the national guard while still in highschool, i want to be in the medical field and shoot for a trauma surgeon, i was looking into the MOS 68c so i can get a boost in the medical field but i want to further expand , i want to know if i can apply for the hpsp while enlisted in the national guard, and if my gpa in highschool 4.0 give or take aswell as being in the army could help me get accepted.
First of all, at 2:20 he says the bonus is not taxed. Then later he says he pays taxes on it. Two observations. First, wearing the stethoscope is a sign of either severe insecurity or a good case of narcissism. Second, the fact that so many of you that missed any of this makes me wonder how you ever got into medical school to begin with, much less that its paid for by tax payers.
1st off it's a UA-cam channel and the stethoscope is a prop. Second, you have no idea what you're talking and are only pointing out one thing. What's your credibility? Nothing. Go take your poor opinion elsewhere. Also when I say it's not taxed. It is taxed, but when you file your taxes you get the vast majority of the money back on your tax return. Stop speculating
Couple of thoughts as a fellow HPSP student:
1) The monthly stipend is slightly higher if you have dependents.
2) with dependents, you also receive housing and grocery allowance during the active-duty tour. Not sure if it’s the same without.
3) If you commission very close to starting med school as I did, there is a pay delay. You won’t be paid right when school starts.
Great input! Things I didnt think about or had experience with!
Do you get health insurance? Does your family also get insurance?
Totally meant to leave a comment months ago - thank you for specific information! This video was super helpful. Can't wait to vlog my own experience!
Glad to hear! Hopefully we ca collab in the future! Best of luck!
I did the entire HPSP thing. Went into surgery and did a fellowship. BIGGEST MISTAKE OF MY LIFE. If one person can read this and stop themselves, I succeeded.
Would you care to elaborate on what exactly was the mistake or caused you to come to this conclusion? I'd be interested to hear this!
Student Physician Network
I can list a few things :
1. Very frequent deployments that are not fruitful in terms of operating. Skill degradation is a major issue
2. Low case volume and complexity stateside so not much better when home
3. Poor pay. Bonuses have not increased in almost 30 yrs. not even adjusted for inflation
4. Headache of now being assigned to FORSCOM units with leaders who have no clue how to use you. You now have even more pointless training exercises year around further hurting operative time
5.Administrative headaches and clipboard carrying nurses in charge that have zero clue about your specialty
6. List goes on n on
Strode are you Air Force, Navy, or Army?
Army I assume because of FORSCOM
JD army
Did you apply to or consider attending the uniformed services university (USUHS) in Maryland? I hope to get accepted there when the time comes but I understand it’s pretty difficult to get in. Thanks for the great video as always!
I didnt! I was dead set on UNMC, but I think it would have been cool! I didnt even consider military until after I got accepted into school. I wish you best of luck in your journey!
Does HPSP cover tuition in addition to the stipend? And how many years of service are required?
Yes, it covers tuition and fees.
You owe 1 year for every year you receive a scholarship & 1 year for every year of residency. BUT residency and scholarship time commitments are paid back SIMULTANEOUSLY (meaning the time you actually owe is whatever is longer med school or residency)
For example, if I have a 4 year scholarship and go into a 5 year residency, I owe 5 years.
Hope this helps
@@StudentPhysicianNetwork that's actually awesome info, thanks
I need a straight up answer please. If a person gets accepted into Neuro Surgery and they decide flat out that that’s their specialty and “nothing” can change their mind, but the Air Force says they need general doctors and want you to go that rout. Can the they forcefully change your choice for you (you don’t change it yourself they do without your consent)?
As far as i know. NO they cannot, but you still need to be able to match in that specialty. If I remember there is only 1 neurosurgery spot in the airforce.... if you don't match you'll get put into an internship year (probably general surgery) and can reapply next year. If you don't match the mext time your only option is to become a GMO or flight surgeon. This is where you can get into trouble and get put behind. It is very similar to civilian, but only in civilian if you don't match you dont have a job at all and you'll be in $200,000 in debt.
That is the difference.
Student Physician Network Thank you for the response. It makes things a lot clearer.
Great video buddy! Did you end up getting reimbursed for the costs of officer school?
I did not end up getting reimbursed for officer school, but you get paid very well at officer school so it makes up the difference
It was a nice try anyway... didn't get selected for the scholarship from the Army.
You can always retry the next year!
This was actually really helpful right now I want to go special forces but like medical so PJs or Navy SARCs but since I’ve always wanted to go to college for waterpolo and PJs and Sarcs are enlisted I was planing on majoring in Aerospace engineering and going into the space force as a developmental engineer but now I’m also considering medicine and maybe SOSTs(Special Operations Surgical Teams) I’m just wondering if I could play a sport possibly D1 and do medical school?
Yes I have students in my class who were D1 athletes at university of Nebraska. Just know getting into medical school is a substantial task. Being a college athlete and a premed student is one of the hardest things anyone can do. You'll need to be ready for that type of commitment and be ready for the long stressful road it entails.
So my recruiter is telling me that the bonus isn't paid until you graduate from med/dental School
I'm not sure about dental school, but it's a signing bonus. I got mine within the first month of medical school. I dont think things have changed.
@@StudentPhysicianNetwork ok cool thx.
what are you doing now? are you a physician in the military now? did you get into residency of your choice right away
Just starting my 4th year medical school. Planning on getting back into making videos soon. 3rd year was rough lol.
When you become an army physician were do you live? can you choose your location ? Like can you live in your own home
You will basically live wherever you can get a job. Some sites you want to live may have an opening and you'll be able to live there others wont so you may have to pick another base/city to live in.
When you work though you can live on base/offense in whatever housing you decide. Also depends on where you end up working, but that's for the US.
Student Physician Network Appreciate The Info
Nice video! When are you going to switch to OCP?
I'm probably going to try and hold off until they make me! Uniforms aren't cheap and I havent gotten much wear out of those ABUs!
It will probably be in a year or so!
Let’s say I finished the fours year I used money for would I ever have to go back into the army
I’m a bit late but can I ask why you decided on the Air Force vs the Navy or Army? I’m a current premed but I have interest in military medicine and debating between the Army or Air Force if and when the time comes.
I'm thinking about making a video on this. But in short I chose AirForce because they treat you a little better and have nice resources to offer.
In the army I think you feel more like a number than a person.
@@StudentPhysicianNetwork Thanks for the quick response!
If you have existing student loans, will the military pay for it in addition to helping further your education by offering the HPSP scholarship?
I'm not sure, but I don't think that is how it works. It should only work for future debt.
Hi! Can you use this scholarship for PA school?
Yes you can
What would it mean to be deployed as a military physician? Is it working at a military hospital abroad? My biggest concern being head of a young family is whether this scholarship would end up separating me from my family. No one ever seems to answer this, though I know I have heard of military doctors being deployed (as one would expect.) I just want to know what to expect so I can judge freedoms versus service and just be prepared for what military doctor life is actually like.
You know im not 100% sure yet. As far as i can tell yes it'd be working at a base abroad. But you could also get stationed abroad and not technically be deployed.
Hello quite a while later.... I am a high school student and I wanna be a military physician where do I start?
You need to start when you go to college and your number 1 priority will be getting into medical school. After you get into medical school you can worry about HPSP in the military. I would recommend getting in contact with a premeditated advisor in college as soon as possible to make sure you are on the right track.
@@StudentPhysicianNetwork is their a specific college I need to go to ?or it doesn’t matter and finish my basics and science courses?
It shouldn't matter any college or university that has a good science department and you can get a degree in biology, chemistry, or biochem will be good. When searching for college just ask to speak to someone in the science department in one of those majors to and ask them about their success getting people into med school is.
Sorry for the misspellings lol... on the run rn
@@StudentPhysicianNetwork oh no worries thank you very much
When did you go to COT during or after medical school?
I attended COT before medical school! It's best to get it out of the way early! Most people get it done then or between their first and second year!
Do you get a housing and food allowance on top of the stipend?
No, but you do when you go on ADT for officer school and COT and away rotations
Does the Air Force offer HPSP scholarships for optometry or only medical/dental schools?
You know I'm not really sure. There is definitely a need for optometrists. I couldn't see why they wouldnt have a program. I'd say reach out to a recruiter to find out!
Does the HPSP cover dorm expenses if any? I want to study at UF as they offer the program and scholarship that I want , but it is in Gainesville, and I am in Jacksonville.
What do you mean by dorm expenses?
HPSP pays you a monthly living stipend while you attend medical school or dental school. That stipend is to be used toward rent and other bills.
If you accept HPSP, that will be your only scholarship.
will you be considered active duty or a civillian working at a VA. Will they pay you military salary those two years. I couldnt find more information.
You will get paid a standard stipend about $2,200/month until you graduate. Then you will matching your residency and be paid as a captain for the time of your residency and work as a doc for your specified base.
You will not be working for the VA, a separate entity.
Were they requiring you to purchase mess dress during your time at COT? I went through in 2009 and I was not required to buy mess dress. I didn’t buy it until 2017. AF dentist here.
They were trying to make us buy it, but the store didnt have enough mess dress for everyone.
It was honestly a little shady how they tried to press it on some people
Can the Health Professions Scholarship be applied for PA school?
Yes it can
I am working along through my CBT trainings, and there are so many videos and modules that I have just zoomed through as fast as I could to get them done. Many of them are random, like about the Air Force involvement in different wars. I just watched the introductory video again, and it suggested that I take notes in the pdf note taker because I would be held accountable for this information at OTS.
How much of the CBT trainings are truly relevant for Commissioned Officer Training (COT)? What will I be learning during lectures at COT? I thought we primarily learned the OTSMAN material? I am just concerned because I don’t want to be tested on all this material later, but need to know if that’s the case.
So if I remember right the CBT trainings werent exactly that important, but more so that you just preview them before attending. Most of the stuff will be covered again during OTS.
When you attend OTS, you will be taking classes most of the day in a lecture hall. All of that material is important for the exams you are required to pass with an 80% average. The exams can be tricky, but if you pay attention and take notes you'll be just fine!
You will also be taking an OTSMAN test too, but that does not count toward your exam average. Learning the OTSMAN is more important to know so you dont get yelled at as much.
Hope this helps!
is AEGD OR GPR why would the other be easier to promote than credential tour becuase wouldn't that be working with the military so easier to promote? If u know anything about this or about promoting to O4 and choosing a specialty please do a video
Jonathan, please elaborate on what you mean by AEGD OR GPR.
I'll see what I've got!
Hello! Do you think the school where you took your prerequisites matter when applying for medical school? I’m starting my undergrad this fall but going to a community college. Is a bachelors required for this program? Would love to hear your thoughts on this. Thank you!
Although technically a bachelor's is not a requirement, medical schools have requirements of what classes you need to take that community colleges typically don't offer.
How old is this video? I read the stipend as of 2019/2020 was more like $2,391 (and I've even heard it was being moved to $2,461)? I'm not including tax, but I don't imagine that knocking out nearly $300...
It is about 1 year old. My stipend has increased to $2214 after taxes.
It is also adjusted slightly via cost of living depending on what part of the country you live in
Hi! When did you start working with a recruiter for the scholarship admission? Was in concurrent with applying to med school or were already accepted to to a school(s)?
Most people start talking to a recruiter once they submit their AMCAS application for med school. I started talking to a recruiter once i was accepted! But also got accepted to school in October so I was early anyway.
Can you apply for this program while in medical school?
Yes but only during your 1st year. You won't be eligible after your first year.
Can you clarify the commitment? If I take HPSP from 1st year of medical school, that will be 4 years of school plus 3 years of residency, so i will owe 7 years ?
You will owe 4 years after your residency.
You will owe what ever is longer, the number of years your scholarship is or how long your residency is.
Can you apply for this scholarship before getting into a school? I want to do this for CRNA!
I second what Murray says. If you were apply medical or dental, youbwould typically start apply while you're applying for med school.
I follow another UA-camr who has used it for CRNA school, but she never replies to comments 😂 thanks!
Oh that's great to know!! Then yes apply or contact a recruiter while you're applying for school you'll want to get the paperwork done earlier the better!
I am pretty blind, would they cover Lasik or any other health issue before training or would I have to just wear glasses? Thanks
I believe you'd have to wear glasses, but later when your Active duty they may be willing to approve your lasik. Im also interested in doing this when im active duty and have tricare
If you go through The Army National Guard during high school and do their med program and college. Will they pay for college and medical school?
I'm not for sure how this will work. As far as I understand you will need to either go to an undergraduate program and be sponsored; go to airforce academy, or go to undergrad and then apply to HPSP to become an airforce doc.
Can you also take out a loan even if you’re getting the stipend and the HPSP scholarship for like purchasing a car?
I dont think you can use a federal loan to do that, but you can get a car loan. I just bought a car last year.
Was the scholarship worth it?
As of now coming toward the end of my 2and year of school I'd say yes, but stay tuned for moreA
@@StudentPhysicianNetwork one year later . . . Was it worth it?
Great video! I was told by my recruiter that I was selected for the HPSP in the Army. I start med school July 13th but I still havent heard anything about my scholarship even though I was told I was selected back in December. I have no idea what's happening and it is a bit concerning. Would you have any advice for this situation I'm in?
Congratulations! Yes, recruiters can be very frustrating and only responsive when convenient for them. I'd say keep following up with him. I know when I got selected it still took months before I finally commissioned and signed.
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Didn't really talk about HPSP. Just the money he's getting. More indept info needed. ie commitments etc Thanks
Thanks for the feedback. Check out my other videos to see more info about HPSP or check out Student Doctor Feery who has great in depth videos.
This video was specifically about the HPSP stipend and was highly requested from subscribers.
Army Medical recruiter here. Send me your HPSP questions
What specific medical programs does the army cover in the hpsp scholarship
Angie Qualifying students can receive full tuition for any accredited medical, dental, veterinary, psychiatric nurse practitioner, psychology or optometry program, plus a generous monthly stipend of more than $2,300
can i get your email or number, i have so many questions and i’m enlisting this october to the national guard part time
i want to join the army when i’m 17, and enlist into the national guard while still in highschool, i want to be in the medical field and shoot for a trauma surgeon, i was looking into the MOS 68c so i can get a boost in the medical field but i want to further expand , i want to know if i can apply for the hpsp while enlisted in the national guard, and if my gpa in highschool 4.0 give or take aswell as being in the army could help me get accepted.
Kevin Bonilla my email is marcus.g.brandt.mil@mail.mil
First of all, at 2:20 he says the bonus is not taxed. Then later he says he pays taxes on it. Two observations. First, wearing the stethoscope is a sign of either severe insecurity or a good case of narcissism. Second, the fact that so many of you that missed any of this makes me wonder how you ever got into medical school to begin with, much less that its paid for by tax payers.
1st off it's a UA-cam channel and the stethoscope is a prop. Second, you have no idea what you're talking and are only pointing out one thing. What's your credibility? Nothing. Go take your poor opinion elsewhere. Also when I say it's not taxed. It is taxed, but when you file your taxes you get the vast majority of the money back on your tax return. Stop speculating
Let’s say I finished the fours year I used money for would I ever have to go back into the army
After your service commitment is up you do not have to got back in.
Does the scholarship program apply to specific medical schools or any I get accepted to?
It just needs to be a US accredited school. Ibdont believe Caribbean schools would count.
@@StudentPhysicianNetwork what is its a U.S credited Caribbean medical school like SGU? can you please find out?