YOU COOKED THE SAME DECK? - Master Duel Master Chef #2
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
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What I love about Master Chef is that everyone in it hates the show
Wouldn't be a Joseph series if they didn't
They hate it but that hatred gets directed toward one another, making it ten times funnier
Yes, yes 100% yes 😂
That's what makes it peak
"What the hell are you doing?"
"SHUT UP, IT WORKS"
* Sounds of everyone else laughing *
"YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR DECKS BUT LOOK AT YOURS, WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?"
And on, and on, and on...
This is just simply peak content
Someone on the last video said that the chef should have an allergy (AKA they list cards you can’t use). It would’ve worked here for the chef’s allergy to be jackpot 7.
This is a great idea.
Or just say you can't cook the obvious dish
That way we get different plates per say
"i want you to use Dark Scorpions, but also, My New years is No Gambling! so I cant see Jackpot 7!"
hard agree there, we really gotta nip this "oops, all identical decks" potential in the bud
In my opinion, the judge should also give a small explanation as to why he picked the ingredients, to give them a direction on where to start while building.
The intercut explanation in the deck profiles is suuuuch a good edit
Dire works hard for the money.
I was going to comment the same thing 🤣
well, it's easy to do when three of them copied the same chatter card by card lol
I was dying laughing
@@tyranitararmaldo What money?
Feel like “Crooked Cooks” is a bit obvious but also the most appropriate name for this series.
I was thinking something similar by calling it the “Crooked Cookoff”
@@Doomdestroyer25 Oh, that's GOOD.
Would've said the exact same name if I hadn't found it already here lol
Chateau de Wonky
That's really good!!
This is the most gas leak series I’ve ever seen
Clearly you didnt watch pegasus challenge
And we love it!!!
@@TheMightyGiantDad "Discard all your zodiac cards into the graveyard"
@@mantrakiNOT THAT PEGASUS CHALLENGE
Wait a minute say that again....
I’m here for the Dzeeff villain arc, man’s gonna be dressed as the hamburgler by the next episode
We're gonna have to get Ffeezd from the nega world next episode.
The Hungry Burglar?
My favorite part of the MBT channel is that every new series he tries to start ends up an unmitigated but extremely entertaining disaster for the first few episodes
the man has a gift
Peak theater kid energy tbh. I love it!
Doug celebrating "the most activations of Dark Scorpions effects" when "so if you give it to your opponent it counts for them" and inmediatly realizing he was death last
Almost as funny as Doug forcing an outro to a video BY LEAVING A VIDEO, WHILE LIVE
its really funny that Coder went with that rule after giving MBT 1st when MBT literally never summoned a Dark scorpion
@@tobaccomarshall4659 makes sense to me. award mbt 1st place immediately for playing the only real deck, then invent a rule on the spot to help you decide who out of the 3 remaining ftk cringelords should lose. i think it's based
@ dog he played watthand control sure its a real deck but its not a dark scorpion deck if anything Farfa played scorpionhand control in his game 2 so he shouldve gotten 1st
@@tobaccomarshall4659 you fail to consider that mbt always winning with a based deck idea and farfa always losing with a cringe sense of humour comports to the concept of every mbt series being rigged, which is funny. log on, my man
37:47 Doug tying to fight for only having one in deck then searching to see 3 graceful and 3 greed is amazing.
Dude, the way i bursted ouy laughting with that instant 3 pot of greed on the screen hahahahaha
i was hoping he'd remove 2 gracefulls during his otk
I unironically love how 90% of this series is just the quartet arguing 😂
Finally Gorg is living up to his full potential... being repeatedly discarded from the hand so better cards can be drawn.
Gage trying to be creative only to be instantly swayed by chat
That's his specialty, being the steering wheel while someone else is the driver, at least as far as deck building goes.
And more hilarious is that Coder might have made Gage win if he went with his original idea.
He bit the apple
@@MagiRemmie Not even "might have". He's the only one that was complimented for his deck idea. MBT actually brought a non-FTK strategy and Coder didn't even comment on it directly it seems.
@@Kaiyuni I think MBT didn't get mentioned because Coder was too impressed by the original idea of Gage and depressed by how three of them decided to do the same deck.
Petition to rename this series to Master Gas, where the wonky quartet battle it out to see who is most affected by the gas leak.
Now they're cookin' with gas!
COOKING WITH GAS! would be a great name for this lol
"now we're cooking with gas (leaks)"
Cannot believe it only took two episodes for deck building to devolve into "let's just play 3 pog and charity" LMAO
Doug getting robbed of his hamburglers activations is the beginning of his villain arc. You already know he's pulling up with fiendsmith yubel next episode.
> A group of friends all participate in a series and spend the entire episode fighting each other and yelling
Welcome back Progression Playoffs
When Wall got flipped I got flashbacks to DM playoffs with burn stall winning the season.
I think noone in this series, included MBT, has a clue what they are supposed to do for deckbuilding
It doesn't really help that to use their ingredients they basically have to either treat them as garnets or play a deck that would be bad in 2010.
I'm hoping for next time they're given a few unrelated but somewhat usable cards and have to figure out how they work together, like how many of these actual cooking shows work.
@@TheKartana That's true, it would be more fun if the cards that are meant to be build arounds where actually useful
It's literally just 4-person table 500, they all know exactly what they're supposed to do.
Given only 30min, with cards they've never read before, and they're terrible? Coder just picked an awful thing that none of them had any time to actually make a coherent strategy out of.
@@R41-e9y I do think 30 minutes is too short of a time to get that creative. If they had a couple of hours, they might be able to properly get funky with their plays. But joseph will always have an edge on this, because of how much he loves jank. He has a huge library of random bullshit to pull from.
Since the Shadow Realm is the 4kids localization of hell, I vote to call the series Shadow Realm Kitchen. Especially since the first match is just berating your opponent like Gordon Ramsey for being an idiot sandwich
Honestly, this is such a good name and actually yugioh related!
Death scullery
Spoilers for the episode below, I have a few thoughts on this series as a whole.
I think Coder was right at the end of the episode, the idea of the series should encourage deckbuilding into the strengths of the given set of cards, building into a nice idea rather than building for power. It feels like MBT is the only one really building a deck that follows the idea, but that's because it's his series.
The ghostrick deck idea Gage had would've followed the theming of the series better, building into the strengths of the archtype while also serving as a counter to the battle-phase oriented gameplay of the dark scorpions. Unfortunately, this didnt end up happening, but i think MBT's hand conteol deck took the idea for the deck in a different direction, which is what this series seems to be encouraging.
I think the way Farfa was approaching this in episode 1 was interesting, but he misunderstood the idea of the series. That being said, i think the overcorrection into building for power over theming with Redoer + Appo, along with the comment about just building snake-eyes takes the soul out of the series. This isnt a problem exclusive to Farfa's deckbuilding mind you, but an issue with communication as to what the series is supposed to be. I really like the idea of this series, but it feels like a lack of understanding behind what the intention of the series is meant to be is causing a lot of frustration.
Also, @Anthintendo has a great idea for the name. "Crooked Cooks" would be amazing.
I think this is well put. I have a bunch of ideas for extra rules and guidelines but they all basically boil down to the alternate Dueltaining win condition: "reduce my life points to zero, or give me a little giggle". Wins should count for something, but not everything, and the guys should be willing to risk bringing a deck that they think might ultimately lose every game on the grounds of making the judge go "I've never seen that card in my life!" or "How the hell did you think of that combo"
while i agree, there is one problem tho... they only have 30 minutes to cook something, and when i cook it takes me hours of trial and error and looking cards in the database and such.... so realistically, they will be always making fries out of potatoes and maybe throwing a patty on top of it to compensate.
they would need more time to have better meals, but i don't believe they want to invest too much time in a silly video they can half ass instead.
Judge needs to play a bigger role because this miscommunication would've never happened if Gage didn't get 2nd in judging for playing 37 spellbooks + a nonfunctional chocolate combo.
There's no incentive to not show up with a strong deck and a combo that might work involving your 1 of ingredients because that does better than Doug's deck last week.
Playing a different archetype that has a similar effect to the ingredient cards is not building to the strengths of the given cards, its just playing another deck.
MBT has been good at finding ways to make the ingredients look like the garnets of a deck, that never want to be drawn, and will never be searched.
Dougs deck in the first episode was the only one in this entire series so far that was happy to draw and play the actual given ingredients. Only to look bad due to being weak.
Dzeef said it himself: there is a reason he sends a ledger of series rules to the people who participate with him. Series like these invite content creators to abuse edge cases, so you need an airtight docket to keep the theming on track.
That said, off track series can be very fun, and I feel like this one is a prime example of how the chaos of players learning how to play it properly can be as entertaining as a more streamlined approach.
"A second shot?! What does he think this is." fucking sent me, I hate that Joseph is the funniest person on the planet
No dzeef was right at the beginning where he had a really creative deck last episode that used the ingredients but got the second lowest score. The other decks didn’t use the magician girls like at all but won creativity. This series is so fucked and I love it
Yeah, Danny really f"cked up the judging last episode. Doug was robbed.
the thing is you need to also *execute* something interesting with the cards. they have to do something in the duels. realistically doug mostly just used a few of them as material for asstraps
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You’d have a point except Joseph and Gage literally have done nothing with the ingredients the first two episodes (Gage played them this episode) and still have gotten the top two spots both episodes, whereas Farfa and Doug have actually used the ingredients in both episodes.
Joseph quite literally played ZERO dark scorpion cards the whole episode and I believe he only played a magician girls last episode by reborning one from Doug’s grave with Eria. Gage just played spellbooks with garnets last episode.
What are you talking about? "The other decks didn't use the magician girls at all"? MBT literally made his entire deck around resolving Chocolate Magician Girl in a consistent combo. Doug just threw charmers in with the Magician girls because they're both spellcasters. I think it's really unfortunate that the series as a concept is being questioned because Doug was salty all game about the series. The rules are stated very clearly, you're supposed to cook an interesting original "dish" using the ingredients. Complaining that you don't win because you built the same jackpot 7 FTK that 2 other contestants also brought, and then also going out of your way to "prove" that having unlimited is a bad idea on someone else's show by bringing as many Charity and Pots as possible, is clearly unreasonable and petty. Imagine if someone on Doug's show every episode complained about the system and win conditions of the show, and instantly tried to abuse anything in the show to "prove a point". That would just suck, and nobody does that to his shows.
@@haruhirogrimgar6047 Doug just played the deck raw last episode. Basically no cooking involved. Danny was absolutely right with his judgement.
Suprised Coder didn't choose Bishbaalkin
He wanted them to cook a nice meal, not give him food poisoning
I was half expecting Chaos Max
I really hope this series sticks, ssuch a banger concept
lets be real, the comedy and toxicity carries
I hope this is all good natured arguing and nobody's actually as salty or mad as they're acting because I smile the entire way through these
I don't think there's ever any actual animosity between these guys, they just play it up.
Oh you didn't know? Doug shot Joseph when they met up at Orlando
Yeah he didn't take it well
If you're wondering who uploaded the video, Ruxin34 will be taking over the channel
@@hiimemily Trust gage was suuuper pissed off last episode. But thats just how bros banter, its all good in the end.
I don’t think it’s anything too serious, but just from watching the streams Farfa and Doug are clearly frustrated with the judging results and the objective of the series being so unclear. They’ve actually stated they’re working on how they can improve the series as they realize there’s clear issues.
I love that Farfa and Gage are like " Ok i'll play one copy of PoG and gracefull ".
Meanwhile Doug : Fuck it we ball.
Rule proposal: it's highlander format, EXCEPT for the designated Ingredient cards, which can be run at 3. That way, they're the most common parts of the deck and more likely to get focus and be a build-around.
This its stupid af
I think that would really help
While that’s a cool idea I think it’s just gonna be a bunch of good 1-ofs for 90% of decks if they do that.
It’s just gonna be like 1 of every hand trap, 1 of every good going second card and then some small synergy package.
Oh I don’t love it, then you lose a lot of the skill expression in deckbuilding
Highlander is always boring as sh't though.
I want to see coherent strategies and archetypes. Not 40 random cards meant to stand alone and sometimes add a different card.
The one guy using his ingredients to win multiple times got dead last again, i can see the villain arc starting and he's entirely entitled to, holy moly
this is such a good concept for a series, its a shame that so far none of the 8 decks we've seen have actually fulfilled the prompt of the show
Tbh it seems super difficult to get anything super creative in just 30 min with cards theyve never played.
Like, did they even sit down and talk about what the rules even are?
Bad ingredients make bad dishes
@@alexquinn4792It’s honestly not that hard…. You see it every week on Dueltaining
I'd argue Doug's episode 1 charmer/magician Girls pairing was good cooking. It plays with the magician girls's different attributes in the same way charmers do, and it's all spellcasters and support.
MBT: What's a little bit of unlimited gonna do?
MBT, frame one upon seeing graceful charity: STOP.
after 10 years of watching saga MBT has finally mastered the art of the gas leak
If I was Farfa, I would have played Steel Scorpion, Millenium Scorpion and Nightmare Scorpion in a Lair of Darkness deck. This way you're playing DARK Scorpions.
dawg maybe the judges just have to say "you can play dark scorpions but you cannot play jackpot 7" for whatever dog shit they suggest next
Can't blame the judges for 3 of the 4 going straight into the generic ftk
@@SpencerCJ you very much can blame the juges for adding restriction out of nowhere after the cooking is done actually. If you did not want cilabtro in your dish, you should have said so at the very begining.
Honestly I felt like doug deserved the win here, only came last because giving your opponent dark scorpions counts towards your opponents score and not your own feels like such a cop out and deliberate shafting.
I think its just punishing doug for doing FTK shit
For the goal is to be creative, and 3 of them brought the same deck; then the outlier is the most creative by default and should win. Doug also had playsets of forbidden cards while they were only allowed 1 copy iirc
While I do think Doug not getting any points from the judge was BS I do appreciate this way of judging a bit better with everyone around to listen to the judge make the call.
@@Diox990 I appreciate having a live judging with all the chefs, but the criteria still makes no sense. Joseph just played watt control and never actually played any of the dark scorpions. Gage lost both duels and never got close to accomplishing what he was trying to do. Both got the top spots.
Alright so what have we learned?
1. Totally unlimited Is a mistake
2. MBT needs to actually play the ingredient cards
3. The very first thing you think of isn’t that interesting or unique (Doug, farfa)
4. Don’t listen to chat (Gage)
5. DON ZALOOG WITH MOON MIRROR IS SO COOL
The problem with #2 is they're playing a small number of games and the draws may not facilitate using them. MBT would have absolutely played Zaloog if he didn't also have the Watts in hand.
@@xdragoonzero0 Well then he has to make a deck the benefits more from Zaloog be used than Watts. I get it, they're bad cards, but that's the whole point of the show. If you just treat the main ingredients like garnets to work around then you're not really "incorporating" them into a deck.
MBT-it aint much, but ive done what i can making this dish
Dzeef & Nyhmnim-we made the same meal and it works
Farfa-i burnt the microwave meal
Coder repping Canada well with that maple syrup right up front in the fridge shot.
Farfa immediately clocking "We're all just going to be playing jackpot 7" is so unbelievably funny lmao. This series continues to be an absolute disaster lmao
The mirror where they both fail the ftk and are just staring at redoer is unbelievable lmao
Aww yeah the chefs are cooking directly into a gas line
Doug not getting second place for actually doing the Ftk, unlike the two others is fucked ngl
Despite the bickering it is entertaining. Its the seereax and tsx1 approach of just moaning at eachother the entire time
Doug was absolutely spittin Truthnukes at 7:18 , absolutely correct (even though fafa overdid it with the foodpuns)
Make jank good, dont stuff it into a different deck and call it quits
Gage's deck and idea was really cool and he won his games. Same with MBT. Dzeef deserved 3rd and Farfa deserved dead last. I don't see the problem
@lolaandjoe123 Gages deck was cool if you think spellbook is a cool deck archetype. He only summoned the main ingredients as a "here they are, and there they go" minimum requirement.
Doug at least used the magician girls to do things.
Ultimately Doug is right. To win this series you put the given ingredients in to use as link material or whatever for a better deck.
@lolaandjoe123 I agree that Gage’s idea was neat. One small problem, IT DOESN’T WORK! Doug identified the synergy between the archetype with a bunch of differently attributed spellcasters that summon themselves and the guys who tribute specifically attributed spellcasters to summon somewhat larger guys with some decent effects, and then he got less points than the deck who’s main idea LITERALLY DOES NOT FUNCTION! This then causes Doug to instead go for the much more consistent option of just winning instead of building cool jank because you don’t know what the judge is thinking. Farfa definitely deserved last though; he was NOT cooking.
@@BagelLover560 Okay, but the problem isn't "This combo did or didn't work" the whole concept of the show is trying to show creative ideas you can pull off with low powered cards. Gage followed the idea to a T by bringing up an interesting interaction that can be done specifically with Apple magician girl and World of Prophecy. MBT did a combo whose whole point was to specifically bring up the thing that makes the fruit magician girls special.
Meanwhile Doug just did a combo that can be done with any other spellcaster archetype, and Farfa didn't even try. I feel like taking it as "Doug thought about it more than Gage did why did he get less points" is dumb because Doug just realized "Oh, these spellcasters work with other spellcasters!" meanwhile Gage actually brought up a combo that can be done that involves one of the main ingredients as it's baseline. The fact it didn't work because as always, our boys do not read cards, is secondary here.
ETA: Not to mention Joseph even admitted his deck wasn't all that great in a half-joking manner because it's a deck whose whole idea functions by not drawing 2 garnets. Something that happened not only two times we saw on camera, also a third time we didn't see on camera. So saying "Wow look at the ultra high powered decks they brought" when both decks didn't work the way they intended is just *Chef's kiss*
@@MarbleVirus “the whole concept of the show is trying to show creative ideas you can pull off with low powered cards,” Okay so you kinda contradict yourself when you say that you are supposed to be able to pull off the actual combo and have it do stuff. Edit because I didn’t actually combat your other point here. I get the haha they don’t read, but when you’re building a deck I feel like it should be a given that you know how the entire point behind it works. This is like building a deck meant to summon Zarc (with effects) and forgetting the trap that cheats him out negates him. At that point I think it’s fair to hold you accountable for not double checking.
Also you’re criticizing Doug for playing a deck that other spellcasters could also work just as easily in but give Gage a pass for 1. playing the magician girls even less than Doug and 2. in a role that could easily be swapped out for other better spellcasters (the summon at the end of the turn). I refuse to believe there isn’t a spellcasters you could summon in the position of chocolate that could revive another spellcaster (or do some other interaction). Even if there isn’t due to the combo literally not working you could just summon the guy on your turn for the same or greater benefit no magican girls required. Criticizing them for playing a deck that could work with other cards in the series about being forced to play those specific cards is stupid.
5:11 They really need to establish how many cards of the "secret ingredient" they have to play and if they have to play that specific card, or a card that features it in the artwork
Otherwise loopholes like this happen. It would be like saying "you gotta play with Elemental HERO Neo Bubbleman" and you say "Neo Buubbleman is in Wake up your elemental HERO... it is the same as playing Neo Bubbleman, right?"
17:40 that makes it funnier that Gage is the first one to lose to the FTK
29:04 I agree with MBT. Angry Gage is funny Gage
They haven't abused a loophole at all, playing Dark Scorpion Burglars does not omit them from having to play the other 5 Dark Scorpion monsters, it's just another card within the "archetype"
I think it's fine because the "how many cards of the ingredient issue" is resolved by the judge. If they don't use the ingredient much in master chef they'll get knocked points for not highlighting the ingredient and it should be similarly here based on the judge
@@evertime123 That's a very good point....
the problem is that we can later have a critic like coder today given MBT many points for being innovative while not really focusing on the obligatory ingredient
that's also fine because different critics care about different aspects in different measures @@ianr.navahuber2195
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But I think he really needed to in this case.
In master chef terms 3 people brought the same dish (which while features the required ingredient was very one note and really differed in combo execution in the kitchen) and one person brought balanced dishes that the ingredient fit into but wasn't the sole focus (the focus was hand control right).
This is like dueltaining but joesph was playing 3 of each handtrap. The other 3 are so right when saying that the flaw of this is show is to cook a super interesting combo but they lose to a single duster or in this case a wall of revealing light.
Farfa in this series is like the most Farfa he's ever been, including on his own channel
It could be interesting if the judge gives an idea of what they're looking for since like Doug pointed out he got punished last week for doing what coder was looking for. Not saying they need to hand out a rubric but like a hint or a nudge in the right direction could be helpful.
Joseph got first place for playing a grand total of 0 dark scorpion cards the entire episode - this is what I meant when I said the series in theory is interesting but the criteria has no clarity whatsoever
I actually do think the leaning into hand control is somewhat interesting but Joseph literally did not play any of the ingredient cards.
I mean they are in the deck, he maxxed out on Don. He cannot be blamed for not running triple POG, triple charity and triple upstart so he didn't see them. Running cards does not garnetree they see play unless you have the FTK special of burning through half of your deck
@ he had a chance to summon dark scorpions both games and actively chose not to because what his actual gameplan was is watt control.
ngl this series is "half baked" but ive never laughed more
Nah man justice for my man Doug he earned second place
I swear if he put a second rat into the stew-
I agree with doug, no one is playing the ingredient cards as key. Joseph has a copy of each in his deck and is playing wats with 1 of each scorp, gage turning up the week before with spellbook with 1 of each witch. Make the ingredient the key cards!
Mbt had 3 Don Zaloog in his revised decklist, Farfa had a single copy each
Doug & Gage's only 3 of was Burglar, which was not one of the required cards because Mbt did not have it, or he cheated.
Doug is my fucking spirit messenger this game lmao
I support the Crooked Cooks name idea.
Also, on the drama about the focus of the series. When first introduced in ep1, I thought of it as: you have a set of cards (the ingredient), which should be used to construct a deck (the meal). I suppose Gage's idea of spellbooks was good, for a spellbook strategy, but the magicial gurlz were just added to ''be there'', on a combo that wouldn't even work (though it's understandable he would miss the ''missing timing'' part.)
For what I get, DC's interpretation was my own too, have the ingredients be the ''core strategy'', and you could use other engines to ''get to that strategy''. Last episode it was backwards, using the girls to get to another strategy, and this episode was 3/4 just getting the names in the deck and aim for an unrelated, completely different win condition. Sure, dark scorpions ARE BAD, but they have a game plan in mind, a control beatdown strategy, which I think MBT TRIED to go for, but instead of using the dark scorpions to do the strategy, he opted for another archetype that does the same thing, but better. Which, yeah, it's creative, but is it truly the goal of the series? I think Gage's idea of controlling the battle phase was indeed a better take for the Dark Scorpion gang, though I don't know about the Ghostrick approach.
Just a thought, tho. This series' toxicity and saltiness is why I pay for the internet's bill now. Please don't let it die~
I love the confidence with which Joseph botches all manners of pronunciation of -ae and also tries to push that evil on everyone else
Who let the Wonky Quartet in the Kitchen again?!
Im sorry, but this is the best series the four of you have ever made together. You have to make more of whatever this is cause its gold
Plot twist : Dzeef left earlier to not reveal the 3 ofs Graceful Charity/Pot of Greed
I want one of these eps to have ingredients no one has ever heard of. The kind of stuff MBT will see in a master saga pack and say "This is not a real card." I want the absolute pack filler chaff to get a chance to shine for its weirdest, most unique and baffling effects. Take a random singleton trap from a recent set that has Dai or the Upstart Goblin in the art or something and polish that turd until it shines.
And then they throw it in as discard fodder in a generic Fiendsmith Snake-Eyes shell!
I mean when you're forced to bring an ancient archetype into a modern format with 30 minutes to build a deck, it's only natural that people would default to the only strong thing they've seen the cards do.
edit: It's hilarious that they call it an FTK when the strategy physically cannot FTK
I wonder if more time would help them cook more creatively
Like I’m kinda with Doug though like he brought an interesting casual idea last week and got dumpstered by constructed quality decks with a sprinkle of the magicians so he brought the best thing he could with the given cards and now he gets dumpstered for that too and it’s like what are you supposed to do because what the judges want is super subjective and varies week to week and the only way to do the right thing consistently is to win the games but you can’t consistently win the games bringing a new idea and there is no way to guarantee your new interesting idea will be what the judge wanted to see…. Like it’s kinda just luck if your deck choice lines up with the judges taste, and the only guaranteed points is to play the obvious best thing
maybe the judge should give their main criteria they will be judging the decks on, with the ingredient
Doug's week 1 deck wasn't even really a deck though, it was spellcaster beatdown where you make quintet sometimes
@@Alex-yv5do It actually used the Magician Girls unlike Gage's that was spellbook with Magician Girls as discard fodder (and still got second for some reason).
@@Alex-yv5do The secret ingredient was Magician Girls. Whose win condition is spellcaster beatdown.
They literally have battle-phase oriented effects.
This episode was featuring monsters who have their effects ONLY activatable by dealing damage.
If you are focused on means other than battle for these last 2 episodes you have to just be using the secret ingredients as garnets or link material and nothing more.
@ Magician girls having battle-phase effects is a good point actually, maybe doug's week 1 deck wasn't that bad, but watching it it certainly felt like it just didn't do much, but you make a good point
We'll see how the series evolves
In master chef, there's a mix of common ingredients, less common ingredients, and a special ingredient. Maybe we can influence deckbuilding more (suggestions for deck size, attributes etc.) so that there isn't just a special ingredient to work with but a few other ingredients too
i love the fact that this series had almost no thought put into it other that take these card now build a deck, and the chef votes are just their own interpretation
I think a good compromise is to play traditional format. Also, an idea may be, like how judges tell the cooks what kind of dish they want in a cooking show, so too maybe the host each week. (Kinda like what Kevin was saying at the end)
Unsolicited rule proposals:
3 unlimited cards - could be 3 Pot of Greeds, could be all different, could be 2 and 1, just 3 total.
A secondary ingredient that's a choice of four - everyone picks a different one (based on the reverse order of the last episode) so all the decks are guaranteed to be different.
Any number of banned cards or banned strategies - if it is obvious enough for the ingredient setter to think of, it is banned. Could include more complicated stuff like "you can't self-destroy Unchained cards except with Unchained effects).
A prescribed power level - maybe contentious, but some sort of "setting" limitation to avoid decks turning into, random example, Ostinato -> Called By the Ash -> Win. Dark Scorpions want the Battle Phase, so the general power level for the decks should be low enough to encourage that. Don't want it to be just Goat, Edison, TOSS etc., since that limits the card pool too much.
A bonus point for Theming the deck, awarded by the Head Chef. If someone rocked up with a Stealing-centric Dark Scorpion deck, they should have been rewarded extra for it.
Doug's point at the beginning of game 1 is completely valid why would he (or Farfa) do anything funny or casual when they were shot down on every front, including the judging
because the point of this series is to build and duel with entertaining decks, not to try and win duels. Sure, you get points for winning, but at the end of the day, that's just to encourage interesting decks to actually have win conditions and not just spin their wheels. Let's say people win in future episodes with uncreative, immediately forthcoming decks. Is that what we want? Doug's "fun" deck didn't work in the last episode because his deck simply didn't do anything related to the cards. It had a vision, but the deck was so far off from it that it may as well have been called a prayer. That's not very fun. The logical solution is not to fight against the concept of the video but rather to try and fulfill the point of the series better.
The choices are to buy into the series completely with an interesting deck well suited to the cards chosen by the judge or go fully off the rails, playing a full constructed meta deck for comedic effect; to pick a deck halfway between those two is to construct something neither interesting nor comedic, the cardinal sin of an entertainer.
@@starflight2723 That's the issue tho. Doug's deck last week was to play around the ingredients and look for synergies for them and still got a lower score than constructed Spell Books + 1 offs of the ingredients to do 1 combo that doesn't work cuz it misses timing.
@@starflight2723 Idk what episode you watched but it was super sick to see magician girls combo with charmers to summon from deck and build up resources with each other.
@@starflight2723 it did do stuff related to the ingredients tho? What did Gage or Joseph do with the ingredients last week? They both just rolled with constructed decks with garnets.
@@starflight2723 idk what episode you watched but Doug was playing a deck to actually get the magicians on board and not trying to win. And even if his deck was pretty bad last ep, how was Joseph and Gages's deck any better? Joseph was playing a turbo deck to get an effect that forces the opponent to trigger the magician girl but has no cards that gets the magician girl he needed. the only reason why he even got the board was because he charmered his opponents Magician girl. Gage was playing Spellbook control with a garnet play he couldnt set up consistently, and required to hope that the opponent was dumb enough to walk into.
See what happens when you have a game where you don't involve a wheel of some kind? Absolute anarchy and everyone hates it and each other! I can't wait to see more!
This series truly captures the magic that makes celtic guardian format what it is
Ohh shit Gage actually came back
i think the ultimate refutation of actually making good thoughtful decks in this series is that it would make these episodes only half as funny and entertaining
what I love about the show is that they made decks that Danny would like in the coder episode and decks coder would like in the Danny episode
It is a CRIME that the editor isnt in the description this time around. The deck profile was a glorious edit😂
I think it was a great idea to make a series designed around creative deck-building and bring in three people who are the least capable of creative deck-building, very inspiring
Idk if its funnier but I like the title "Yu-Gi-Oh: Cook or Cooked"
This series isn’t allowed to end 💖
This is getting ridiculous, it seems that anyone can do anything and at the end of the day MBT wins that's not fair.
We need justice for my boy Doug
Maybe future judges can be more specific on how to use their ingredients? Maybe forcing a playset or at least 1 copy of everything or something?
A different idea is that a viewer on the first episode said a Judge could have an "allergy" to something that could act as an additional rule of what they could not play. (Personally I immediately thought of No Link monsters but that's probably just me)
I love the vibe of a couple of friends dicking around; lots of arguing, but everyone seems to be having fun.
If Yajiro Invader is ever the flavor of the deck, the Wonky Quartet is gonna have a mental meltdown 😂
This is when I realized that the fans of all four channels just want to watch some half-baked idea fall apart so four grown men can yell at each other and whine about technicalities rather than do anything particularly interesting.
Please more time for deckbuilding, so that everyone can explore more than the first thing that comes to their head
I'm with Doug. Danny was biased in his judging. Farfa's deck was the most entertaining content. Gage's hard DIDN'T WORK for using the magician girls. Doug's at least played toward working with them. All MBT had was a line to force a second normal summon but bricked constantly. Wooo *twirls finger*. The trap was a bonus that never played out.
This is a perfect white noise video to me. 3 of my fav youtubers arguing while farfa is playing in the background
i was hoping we would a get a reaction from the other 3 after seeing that doug was infact running 3 graceful and 3 pog
not gonna lie as soon as I saw the dark scorpions I instantly thought "oh, you just build the jackpot 7 OTK" as well
I think you should maybe add a timer for building a deck (Like Master of Faster and the real cooking shows). So that way you feel the heat of the kitchen while trying to cook something up in time to serve to the judges (Duel).
@@namelast7179 they do have a time limit. They had around 30 minutes to build and test
Someone should bring some abomination 60 card tear pile next episode, with the mandatory cards included that only serve to get milled and fused with tear cards.
I feel like this show needs better rules on what the ingredient being in the deck needs to be in the deck.
I feel like this series could be actually cool and interesting and still funny with actual rules, but it's also hilarious hearing the yelling and over the top beef, although, I hope it doesn't last too long like that, would get tired if every episode is just another excuse for them to fight lmao
Episode 2 while decent, did not hit as hard as episode 1.
First I think some basic ground rules need to be laid out in structure. One of them is a ban list because there could have been more obvious ways to make the FTK even more linear. There are also a few other cards that should be considered like crossout designator or lullaby of obedience because those cards inherently say "we play same deck so i'll take away that tech" feels all the more uninspired the more they pop up.
Second is to have the judge be a little more clear in their requirements. I think if the goal of this theme is to have all five dark scorpions to be at least summoned once for one point and have each of them attack be worth two points (given that someone is not rude enough to surrender early), would give an optional but clear vision that rewards the player for creativity and possibly win them more points over just winning their match. Heck Coder's whole "based on the controller that resolved the most Dark Scorpion effects" is pretty much on the spot there.
Third, I think everyone is starting to understand the theme of this series (cook something good but creative like a michelin class meal) but it did bother me that no one had a clear understanding on what the spirit of the show is outside of MBT who is the host of the show. Doug is valid here and there is a kind of feeling of ill will received based upon what happened in episode 1 where no one knew what was going on. Farfa for example took the theme pretty literally and while it may have not won, the deck is so out there and entertainingly different that I was surprised there wasn't just a funny mario-party esque "most entertaining deck in the room" category like even a pity bonus star would have lightened it up a bit. Now that the theme is more obvious I do hope that the creativity ceiling is raised and that maybe the contestants have more time to cook. It seems like the wonky quartet get 30 minutes? I think even the Master Chefs at least get an hour or two to do their challenges when cooking.
Another amazing episode of White Boy Cookout
How to fix this series. Have an alt win con or just have to fulfill a condition before winning a match.
Example: Summon all dark scorpions, or magician girls, or whatever monsters you chose as the “Main ingredient” for the episode.
Or if it’s not a specific archetype, say like the cards have snow in them, themed around movies, are all toys, two or more monsters on one card or light attribute…
And no more unlimited too.
Edit: got to the end it sounds like that is what is going to happen going forward, here’s hoping it works out
That’s supposed to be the judgement of the deck, I feel like "making a cool deck" should be more encouraged though
@Avelia-videofr I agree cool decks should be encouraged to be played. But I also think the decks should be functional as well. The problem is, they have a single judge with arbitrary scoring rules with very unclear conditions for decks and because of that the decks we see are either “good stuff” decks, counter mirror decks, FTK decks, or just boring decks.
I actually liked Farfa’s deck in the first episode, but because it was a “bad deck” it scored poorly in both areas while Gage’s deck barely stuck to the challenge but still did better than Farfa in the overall score. Maybe have a scoring system that focuses on three aspects theming (how well they incorporate the main ingredient), playability (how good it is at dueling), and overall enjoyment (like have a poll on which deck people, fans, or each other enjoyed seeing most) …
@@rabbidcreature9681 Farfa's deck literally did nothing though. He showed up with a bunch of food related cards and called it a dish! That's like throwing pepperoni and salami on a rice cake and calling it Italian.
@@NovusIgnis it might of done nothing, but it was entertaining and somewhat creative. While Gage basically did the equivalent of putting pepperoni on a store bought pizza and called it his in the first episode.
@rabbidcreature9681 Sure, but at least the store bought pizza is edible. Farfa's concoction would just give you food poisoning. Dude literally put a rat in the soup lol.
3 FTK* and one lil birthday boi watt FTK*
*FTK here stands for FINAL turn kill
It's like nobody on this show knows what an FTK fundamentally is
I've never been more scared of a thumbnail
Loved the discussion at the end. The show is adapting and finding its own format. Nice! ;]
New series name: Master Duel Stuggle Meals
"It was on me for expecting you guys to read the cards..."
ngl, cooking up and play is a good title for this show
Farfa was so upset about the results of last week he became The Joker
This series is the most toxic the boys have been so far, it completely reminds me of YGO nights with my friends , such good times
Playing in unlimited is like using banned food additives in your dish