I was friends with a Dominican woman who looked black but was adamant about not being black and was annoyed when black Americans tried to group her with them. For her, black Americans have a different culture, history and language so it didn’t make sense for Dominicans to be grouped with them based on skin color. For her, black Americans are an entirely different group. Also, a lot of black Americans want black immigrants to be grateful to them for the Civil Rights Movement and want to recruit them to be involved in their racial grievances and see race relations the way they do; she also didn’t want to be involved in this racial grievance movement either.
I wonder if my assumption is wrong, too? I thought more people thought of Dominicans as Latino. I thought it was Haitians that were assumed to be "black?"
@@Psychof1stYou could argue Haitians are technically Latino for their French. We're *Hispanic,* which is an ethnic subgroup within the Latino race. And before you say it, Europe and America refuse to consider Latinos a race of peoples. However, *we* consider it a race in latinoamérica..
yeah, black people from anywhere else grow resentful towards black Americans. Not just because black Americans treat them as inferior or because they make fun of them, that is more of an annoyance for them. The major reason why is because when they ask black Americans why they are in the position they are in, black Americans say it's because the U.S. is racist and holds them down, and for telling them they won't succeed because they are black. Basically for trying to make them think and act the way they do. Black people from abroad absolutely hate that, they hate hearing that and they hate being told they won't succeed either because they are black. It's usually why black people from abroad, well at least in years past not so much the new ones coming here for free stuff, were business owners and doctors.
My mother is black and my dad is white. I turned out light skinned, my twin brother is darker than me, and my oldest sister is damn near a vampire she so white 😂😂
portrayed in the media,,,,if half a of the crimes that blacks commit were covered then maybe,as it is blacks have under a dem. administration a walk free card.
They really are their own diaspora. They bread with other white slaves and Spanish and white settlers and have stayed on that island. They even speak their type of Spanish. They really aren’t the same.
Dominicas are mixed race! She was trying to make another point. You guys are taking it of context. She was saying that black Americans try to group everyone that is not white in a group and group them against white people saying that we are all oppressed by the “colonizers” She is not black, she is a mestizo.
Yeah. this is the point. It’s a culture thing. Y’all see the black culture as degenerate and believe your culture is better. To be insulted by the confusion is essentially racism. I get it tho. I would want to make the distinction as well. I believe your culture is better.
Bruh even though you might be right American black culture has it's negatives Dominicans are much worse in every aspect. Plus there's a lot of self hate passed down through generations.
I worked at a Afro American art center. I was awarded the honor title of White Africa for having so much Rhythm in my Soul. No extra pay or even a plaque thou. I'm a black man trapped in a white body I'm here to tell my brothers. lol. True Story !
Looks like Puerto Rico ratios. Puerto Rico was more of a resort for the colonizers and Creoles (ethnic Spaniards born in the New World). Dominican Republic is 70% mixed, followed by European, African, and Arawak (Carib, Taino, etc).
@JuanGuzman-jv2ge I'm sure that's the "root population stats"; much more diverse genetics these days I'm sure...I was basically describing my impression of Dominican people, definitely not being black and more of their own group. Like if the argument was about Haitians, may be more logical. However, imo all the island bros are wildly different and very unique
Those numbers are only the first that come up when you google Dominican DNA makeup. If you scroll down to even the second or third result, the numbers reported as “average” vary DRAMATICALLY.
I completely agree with her perspective. She wants nothing to do with black American culture. Most actual Africans themselves can’t relate to black American culture as it has evolved either. It is good that she tries to make the distinction she does. Values and culture are the important things to focus on.
@@uncleb7821 I think you meant to say “can’t.” Assuming this, which Africans don’t you like? There is not a single African culture. There are many different groups of people with many different cultures. Do you categorically dislike all of them?
She wants nothing to do with black culture??? I guess you didn’t hear her choice of words/slang. My wife is Dominican and I’ve been to D.R. more times than I can remember. And if what you were saying was true why do they try to dress, rap, use our style and “ cultre” so much instead of their own? God forbid moving to NYC and then use the N-word to sound tough. Don’t make uneducated comments because everyone isn’t a sheep and some people actually have common sense.
There's not a "Black Culture" there's Nigerian culture, Kenyan culture, Jamaican culture etc just like there's no white culture Swedish yes Polish yes, Scottish etc. It's not a one size fits all enjoy these cultures for their differences.
Not the same continent, but the African immigrants I've met have a totally different culture. They work hard, study hard, dont see themselves as victims and seem like genuinely good people.
"Black" is not a race, either. You guys have an entirely different phenotype to Australasian Aborigines, Ethiopians, Eritreans, etc (all of whom are "black") "Black" is a skin tone range, not a race
Poor comparison with Aboriginals considering they are of Asian descent, and they are light to medium brown so you couldn't even say they have black skin. There are South Americas with darker skin and Aboriginals lol.
That would be a point if they were talking about global diasporas. They’re strictly talking about North American people. It’s colloquial. You’re being pedantic in a laymans conversation.
Its not a skin tone range, there are south Asians with darker skin than black people, you wouldn't call them black. Black is a race, its short for "of African decent".
And she got her Gramps mad as hell one day when he said why can't u bring home a black fella" right in front of me. And she just looked at him and said trust me Gramps he can please any way u can think of, plus works hard, we just bought a condo, and just stopped by to let u know. Now we going to Kenya for 3 weeks. "So try not to have too much fun on ur rocking chair!!"
As someone that has hundreds of dominican friends (i live in nyc), this is accurate. The blacker they are the more they need to tell you about the lighter skinned people in their families (sometimes even show you pictures of people with the "good" hair). They really don't like being associated with black people at all.
Why would being called black be so offensive?? Iol….the underlying message here is hilarious to me. And no one is really talking about how being considered black is offensive and why…lol
@@longsleevethong1457 Idk bro, i'm white lol but this is my life long experience with Dominicans. They really like to hold on to those 2 drops of Native American blood for as long as they can.
@@longsleevethong1457 Because they have a completely different culture than black American culture. It would be like me going to a majority black culture in Africa and people trying to tie me culturally to whatever white subgroup was there, let’s just say white Muslims for example. If the majority of blacks in that culture were Christians (especially Catholic) then you’d better believe I would feel more kinship with them than to the whites I have far less in common with.
When you research "Dominican is made up of", google gives you this: Dominican heritage is a mosaic of diverse ethnicities and races. Hispanic, Spanish European, African, and Indigenous ethnic groups as well as mixed, Black, and white races are all part of Dominican heritage.
They really are a unique diaspora. I totally get what the chick is saying. Weird thing is how strongly she feels about not wanting to be referred to as black….as if it’s a terrible thing lol. She would probably agree with Scott adams.
Yes most of us are mixed & the only ppl who have made this an issue is American BP who seem to be obsessed with us. And yes, we don’t want to be associated with the most dysfunctional and degenerate culture in America.
This video reminds me of your first videos where you guys brought this up about Caribbeans and Latinos saying they ain’t black when they look like Wesley snipes
I’m sure she’s actually talking about she’s not a black American similar to how Jamaicans are. Dominicans who are dark sometimes have the nickname or Negro and we say it in Spanish. But yes Dominicans are mixed with a bunch of stuff and our culture reflects it. I have white cousins and black ones, even have families with the same parents who have kids that are white to black.
@@Transformersarecoming4yourkidsNope. You guys just have no idea what an ethnicity is. You guys aren’t African American but you are by definition black
No she's not. By that logic Jamaicans are not black either, they are Jamaicans. Haitian are not black they are Haitians. Germans are not white they are Germans.
@@clashofqueen93obviously she is not talking about her origin but about the crazy mix of ethnicities in dominicans, which is even higher than it already is in other Latinos. unfortunately (or thx god) there is no general definition to define ones race anymore, mostly because race is meanwhile based on "self-identification". even in the US it is long time ago that u could define a race (black/white) easily, nowadays everything is mixed up way too much. just because the left we are even having these kind of topics. maybe in the US she is street race black for other people but hey, the world is not just the US.
She could be delineating between phenotype and what has become American Black Culture (which has been exported to the UK and other countries through media 'trend'). This 'culture' is what you guys spend much of your time complaining about. There is a huge difference between the cultures of Kenya and Jamaica, for example, 3 generations ago, from American Black Culture today. I'm pretty sure she's referring to culture, or, as it is in political vernacular 'Black with a capital B'.
@@willgggg900 I feel like you guys definition of black is so broad that if I as a white dude got a bad sunburn and my skin turned ashy, you would be telling me I was I no longer white, but a redbone black man. 🤣😂
Im Puerto Rican i did my dna i have like 8 different "nationalities" i have African but I'm not black just like i have Portuguese but im not white i am both and neither at the same time. This is Jim crow era one drop rule thinking 🤔.
The better question would be: where are you from? The Dominican Republic. Only in the U.S. are they conditioned to refer to Africa. What about the Spanish heritage? No! Just, Africa! When you stop and think, things are not so simple.
@user-np1mt5pq4u this video is about dominicans so obviously they will know we're they're from before they ask that question. obviously you ask if they have african ancestry if you know we're their from. Why you you go up to someone and ask " do you have african ancestry 😂 we already know about the Spanish and native ancestry in dominicans. This is for people who want to know if they have african ancestry. I know most dominicans are mixed with all three so I wouldn't ask about their african ancestry. This is for people who want to hear it from their mouth. That would be the best way to ask them instead of are you black, because most are a mixture of all three, so if you wanna know just ask about the african ancestry, not are you black because many represent the Spanish, native, and african heritage.
Ignorance is bliss,I wonder 🤔 what are the 2 comments not showing... Have you been to DR or to a DR Neighborhood,Hair salons/barber 💈? I dated Dominicans, Haitians, Jamaicans and even one Brazilian...the skin tone was just confusing because they could have been sisters far as I'm concerned before hearing them talking
@hollybanville474 not sure if this is directed at me...but yes, as a racecar guy from Florida I am highly aware of the cultural differences of my island mechanic coworkers and friends, neighbors etc...since you are the expert, why don't you express to me your feelings about the modern male car enthusiast in DR...or perhaps PR, or what Hatian doods are up to at the track?...anddd go
Whenever Americans say "Black," they're never talking about Africans. They're almost certainly talking about *Black Americans.* I've seen these interactions with Black Americans vs Africans, West Indians, and even Haitians. Even Black Americans consider themselves different, and rightly so. Race can be categorized in a very broad manner. Ethnicity is far more specific, which will help you identify peoples far better than the melanin content of one's skin. I'm an ethnic Dominican (U.S born, Dominican citizen by birthright). Apparently, I'm more mestizo than mulatto if we go by physical appearance, but that doesn't mean i don't have mulatto ancestry. We're quite mixed. Fun fact: a lot of Dominicans who spend winters in the States won't be as dark as they are in DR since they wouldn't be in the sun all the time. Half my family was surprised to see how light their skin color was when they spent winters in NY.
@@cwilliams7630 people do call Asians Yellow..People's skin colour Is a lot about identity .. Whites couldn't identify as Native American,Africans as Japanese and so on.... Identity- who/what you are.
@@peterwalker7761 so-called yellow just like so-called black. Like I said it doesn't denote anything of substance. There's no Nation called yellow, there's no language called yellow, there's no culture called yellow, etc
@@cwilliams7630 It refers to their skin colour.. people call Chinese etc Yellow..you said they don't .,I know they do,. .you know they do.. Unless you live under a rock.
@@user-np1mt5pq4uwe are the best at EVERYTHING. The beginning and the end. The alpha and the omega. The beauty, strength, talent, and resilience. I can go on and on. I mean… who else would I rather be 💃🏿💃🏿💃🏿
@@user-np1mt5pq4uoh! So we going there? Well. Indigenous, the originals, Native. How else can I relate my identity or race to you? It seems that this is what this video is about.
Many Dominicans including some of my relatives deny being black and they are midnight purple black too. But then again in America black means American so I see what she mean but she still has African in her ancestry.
America black and Dominican black are the same, all from one common ancestor. Even if they are trying to say they are native black, it's still that same as black Americans as we and natives share close blood.
I’m Haitian, but born in America and guess what? I’m black. Black doesn’t mean American to me and most would think I’m delusional if I say “I’m Haitian, not black. Black is generally used for the most of the African diaspora. Colonialism and slavery really messed us up. Most don’t even know where our ancestors came from specifically. Just a general region where they could’ve come from. No historical records, no original last names. This goes for all people who are descendants of African slaves, including Black Americans, Haitians and Dominicans.
@@KennyBucketz what I meant by my comment when I said in America that black means black American is when I was there I would hear them say “I’m black, white, Jamaican and Puerto Rican” or “I’m Nigerian and black” or “I’m Japanese, black and Mexican”. And when I asked these people what they mean by black they told me African American.
Tenemos cultura propia. Claro que tenemos sangre africana. Pero decir que nosotros somos ingorantes por querer diferenciar nuestra cultura y nuestra gente es ignorancia. Morenos/blacks son los Afro Americanos. Y nadie ni nada va a decirle a nuestra cultura como hablar y como usar nuestro lenguaje. Por eso el que le interese debe claramente preguntar "eres de descendencia Africana?". Ya. Punto, y obvio el dominicano lo es.
Why are people so infatuated with this “black” label? It seems like people are too lazy to think critically. Instead they fire poor Aunt Jemima, Uncle Ben, and the likes. Suffering doesn’t come from letting go of the past, it comes from holding on.
Black and white are merely terms that describe physical characteristics. Unfortunately, being “Black” has become synonymous with Black Americans, which can have a negative connotation. She obviously has African ancestry but she’s definitely not American 😁 This whole conversation is hilarious 🤣
We also hold the sentiment that things like "Black History" is dumb AF. Dominican History is Dominican History, regardless of the races/ethnicities involved. Ditto every country but the U.S.A. We're aware that Americans refer to Black Americans when they say "black," even if it's "black history." We don't agree with the shorthand, but we won't let them lump us in with them, either.
She does not wish to be regarded as a victim as some black people feel black is. Her race isn’t as important to her as her culture. All her choices are made from it.
Nah. It’s because of the negative stereotypes associated with African Americans. They think they are better people and do not want to be confused with what they perceive as degenerates. They think their culture is better. This is quite the conundrum. This is a weird racist like stance to take and whos gona call it “racist” and who’s gona listen?
Best case scenario: she has wavy hair she straightened and dyed. It's *very common* for our people. Worst case scenario: it's frizzy or curly and she straightened it out, then bleached it. We do not approve of wigs outside of entertainment.
One topic not mentioned, is that quite often, Dominican siblings have different skin color at birth. As someone who spent 10 years of my youth in the Dominican Republic, I had friends in that category. Its a beautiful cultural " melting pot" -- which has its own identity, at the same time
Some of my kids were a darker tan, others were white. The same can be said of many cousins born light but got more melanin later and vice-versa. We're truly a melting pot. Ethnicity and nationality is much easier to identify than vague race classifications. We're not caught-up with all of that. It's why Ulysses S. Grant marveled at our mixed society vs America's segregated one. He even proposed to send newly freed slaves to Santo Domingo and Haiti to ease tensions in the States while proposing a freer life over here.
I have my own perspective. I do not consider ANY person a color. I speak publicly about this. My ancestors advised me to not consider myself or anyone else a “color”. The GOVERNMENT created race groups. Open your eyes people. I live in America- my heritage is Egyptian/Persian/Hindi/Nigerian. I refuse to classify myself as a government created group.
She's a multiracial person, so not entirely black or white or Hispanic or other Indigenous ethnic groups! So there's no reason why she should say she's specifically black or any other race. I perfectly agree with her, mainly when her culture is Hispanic instead or black! She's simply Dominican, which means a person of mixed races. Period. It's completely illogical for you to state that a person should be black simply because he/she has a percentage of black blood and ignore all the other lineages.
Shes not multi racial she has multiple nationalities. Human is the race there arent different races of human lol. People are so uneducated coming out of school its crazy.
My wife is black (Jamaican) our 3 kids are mixed. I'm sooooo glad we all grew up in Canada cuz I can count on one hand in the last 15 years, 20 I should say cuz I dated a black woman before I met the love of my life. But on the fingers probably 4 times I've heard racist comments only by other black people. And my wife says she never recieves racism by white people. It's always black people when they see us together.
Dominican is a nationality. Not a race. Just like how I’m from America, American isn’t my race. Now “black” to me is just a color, and not a race. Black is what people see when they close they’re eyes at night 😂💯
Gotta admit she has something of a point, below is taken from Google. The people of the Dominican Republic are mainly of Spanish descent, some pure white, others mixed with African American blood, others with an admixture of Indian, and still others a combination of white, Indian, and negro. While the pure black, or nearly black, African American is far less in evidence than in Haiti. She herself looks mixed race.
Black people in America are on average only 75% African. They are often mixed with European and Native American as well, but they’re still BLACK. Cut it out. This woman is less mixed than many Dominicans are. The majority of her ancestry is probably African. She is Dominican by nationality, Latina by ethnicity, and majority black by race. She’s an Afro-Latina from Dominican Republic. She’s mostly black regardless of her ethnicity and culture.
@@hollybanville474You just contradicted yourself. Race is based on skin tone, but also race was made up to divide us. Skin tones are made up of many different colors. Race isn’t scientific.
Folks, come on. There is a huge difference in culture, language, upbring, class, and demographic. Dominicans have a mixed cultures: Spanish, Native Indian, African, and some European. They are also from an Island half Haiti and Dominican Republic. Both areas were colonized by Spain and France.
No! The Dominicans (some) are an admixture of Spaniards (Tawny-complexioned=dark-skinned), and the original Indians that are now being referred to as "African Americans." The whole Island was known as Quisqueya (eastern part) and Ayiti. True, they were colonized by the Spaniards and the French --- who were tawny looking people as well.
Black Americans have the same mixture of european, natives and African blood. Most Black Americans are British/Irish, African, and Native, instead of Spanish and Native but we have the SAME amount of African blood.
I agree with that woman, Im Puerto Rican we not black regardless of what color we are…couple videos ago ya was just talking about the culture of black ppl and they cant help it…everytime ya talk about chicago ya always talk about the black negro and the culture of black ppl intertwined, we latinos are different because we have different cultures we are not black ya wrong on this 1….also as a police officer when filling out paperwork to determine someones race theres a black box and hispanic box to check off so if their dominican you would check off hispanic not black…its like comparing a doberman and a rottweiler same color two different breeds
You have color and you have culture. As a dominican i feel closer to African roots than my black brothers in US coast to coast, having less melanin. Our food, our rhythms, our jargon. My Nigerian friend makes fufú that tastes like my mom’s mangú. Merengue music, original to Dominicans, is more African than not. If some of we have adopted the man’s culture, then yes - color will be the sole determining factor for rootedness. Regardless though, this mangú is better than fast food.
Latino/Hispanic is her ethnicity/culture. “Black” is a race. I think most of them say they aren’t “black” in the US to distinguish themselves culturally
I agree 110%. Been explaining this to my peeps forever and always get second guessed. Native is Taino not Aztec. Spanish isn’t Spaniard but Sephardic Jew. African is of Afro 🖖🏽
I can't believe Kevin called her Somalian 😅😂
*somali
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I was friends with a Dominican woman who looked black but was adamant about not being black and was annoyed when black Americans tried to group her with them. For her, black Americans have a different culture, history and language so it didn’t make sense for Dominicans to be grouped with them based on skin color. For her, black Americans are an entirely different group.
Also, a lot of black Americans want black immigrants to be grateful to them for the Civil Rights Movement and want to recruit them to be involved in their racial grievances and see race relations the way they do; she also didn’t want to be involved in this racial grievance movement either.
I wonder if my assumption is wrong, too? I thought more people thought of Dominicans as Latino.
I thought it was Haitians that were assumed to be "black?"
I’m Dominican & You are 💯 correct! Always trying to recruit us. they just won’t leave us the hell alone.
Africans are the same way.
@@Psychof1stYou could argue Haitians are technically Latino for their French.
We're *Hispanic,* which is an ethnic subgroup within the Latino race. And before you say it, Europe and America refuse to consider Latinos a race of peoples. However, *we* consider it a race in latinoamérica..
yeah, black people from anywhere else grow resentful towards black Americans. Not just because black Americans treat them as inferior or because they make fun of them, that is more of an annoyance for them.
The major reason why is because when they ask black Americans why they are in the position they are in, black Americans say it's because the U.S. is racist and holds them down, and for telling them they won't succeed because they are black. Basically for trying to make them think and act the way they do.
Black people from abroad absolutely hate that, they hate hearing that and they hate being told they won't succeed either because they are black. It's usually why black people from abroad, well at least in years past not so much the new ones coming here for free stuff, were business owners and doctors.
She had me at papi
A man of culture
Si.
What is popi!!
And I'm a purple hippopotamus with natural blonde hair...🤔
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My mother is black and my dad is white. I turned out light skinned, my twin brother is darker than me, and my oldest sister is damn near a vampire she so white 😂😂
Haha. It happens. There is a video on YT of twin girls. One black with curly hair, and one pale white and ginger. Amazing
Can't blame her for not wanting to be associated with black Americans after the way they are portrayed in international media
except black Americans make up lest than 1% of the world's black people so how do they dictate what black culture is?
Exactly. Plus it’s not our culture anyway. We don’t relate at all.
Glass houses, Dominican Culture is worse. Criminality, prostitution, dishonesty, mixed with some inherited self hate
portrayed in the media,,,,if half a of the crimes that blacks commit were covered then maybe,as it is blacks have under a dem. administration a walk free card.
Portrayed? Theyre portrayed WAY BETTER Than they are in reality...
Keith is right. Kevin might be gay. " I'll take a white man." 🤣 That shit made me crack up. 🤙 Keep it going fellas. You guys are funny as hell.
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The island was called Hispanola before it change to DR/Haiti you guys are a 💯 rite fellas..lol🤭🤣🙌👍😊🙏
They really are their own diaspora. They bread with other white slaves and Spanish and white settlers and have stayed on that island. They even speak their type of Spanish. They really aren’t the same.
Someone gets it. Thank you
Exactly
That's a lot of words to describe Creole
@@-I-Use-Punctuation a simple search will tell you that Dominicans are not Creole and the only Creole people in the DR are Haitian immigrants.
@@applesandbananas9556
Cre·ole
noun
1. a person of mixed European and Black descent, especially in the Caribbean.
Dominicas are mixed race! She was trying to make another point. You guys are taking it of context. She was saying that black Americans try to group everyone that is not white in a group and group them against white people saying that we are all oppressed by the “colonizers” She is not black, she is a mestizo.
EXACTLY!!!
Mulatos no meztizo
Yes they’re pushing that now trying to say they were everybody it’s so sad yet hilarious most the world laughs at them
Very well said!!
@@undergroundriptiles7005they were everybody?
As a dominican I have to disagree I do not want to be compared to black americans
Yeah. this is the point. It’s a culture thing. Y’all see the black culture as degenerate and believe your culture is better. To be insulted by the confusion is essentially racism. I get it tho. I would want to make the distinction as well. I believe your culture is better.
I'm sure most black Africans who are actually from Africa feel the same way about black Americans born in the US.
The funny thing is, when you “Blacks” from other countries come to America, you can’t want to adopt Black American culture 😂😂😂
@@longsleevethong1457sound like a absolute 🦝💀 if u don’t wanna be black say that bruh
Bruh even though you might be right American black culture has it's negatives Dominicans are much worse in every aspect. Plus there's a lot of self hate passed down through generations.
It's not ethnicity, it's nationally.
Thank you exactly
Think she's conflating ethnicity, nationality and race
Nationality: Dominican
Ethnicity: a combination of European ancestry, Indigenous ancestry and African ancestry…sort of like most Black Americans.
Nationality is what is on your passport or birth certificate, ethnicity is where your ancestors are from
Jesus Christ.
I worked at a Afro American art center. I was awarded the honor title of White Africa for having so much Rhythm in my Soul. No extra pay or even a plaque thou. I'm a black man trapped in a white body I'm here to tell my brothers. lol. True Story !
I'll put this here...73% European, 10% Native, and 17% African
I am 🇩🇴It's the opposite about 70% mixed then African and European follow. It is considered a country with people of decent. Most 🇩🇴 are mixed.
Looks like Puerto Rico ratios. Puerto Rico was more of a resort for the colonizers and Creoles (ethnic Spaniards born in the New World).
Dominican Republic is 70% mixed, followed by European, African, and Arawak (Carib, Taino, etc).
@JuanGuzman-jv2ge I'm sure that's the "root population stats"; much more diverse genetics these days I'm sure...I was basically describing my impression of Dominican people, definitely not being black and more of their own group. Like if the argument was about Haitians, may be more logical. However, imo all the island bros are wildly different and very unique
Those numbers are only the first that come up when you google Dominican DNA makeup. If you scroll down to even the second or third result, the numbers reported as “average” vary DRAMATICALLY.
You guys look Dominican 🇩🇴. I'm a white Dominican. 😂
Technically she's right. Dominican's like Puerto Rican's are multi racial.
most black Americans have 10-20% european ancestry. They are still black. She is conflating nationality/ethnicity with race. She is just IGNORANT.
I completely agree with her perspective. She wants nothing to do with black American culture. Most actual Africans themselves can’t relate to black American culture as it has evolved either. It is good that she tries to make the distinction she does. Values and culture are the important things to focus on.
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As a Black American, I CANT stand Africans. So the feeling is mutual.
@@uncleb7821 I think you meant to say “can’t.” Assuming this, which Africans don’t you like? There is not a single African culture. There are many different groups of people with many different cultures. Do you categorically dislike all of them?
She wants nothing to do with black culture??? I guess you didn’t hear her choice of words/slang. My wife is Dominican and I’ve been to D.R. more times than I can remember. And if what you were saying was true why do they try to dress, rap, use our style and “ cultre” so much instead of their own? God forbid moving to NYC and then use the N-word to sound tough. Don’t make uneducated comments because everyone isn’t a sheep and some people actually have common sense.
There's not a "Black Culture" there's Nigerian culture, Kenyan culture, Jamaican culture etc just like there's no white culture Swedish yes Polish yes, Scottish etc. It's not a one size fits all enjoy these cultures for their differences.
Pretty bad when Dominicans don't want to claim you 😮
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Foundational Black Americans don't need some dominicans claiming us...we are the most copied and known Blacks on earth
Not the same continent, but the African immigrants I've met have a totally different culture. They work hard, study hard, dont see themselves as victims and seem like genuinely good people.
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@@TMan978facts hurt your smooth and Small brain
@@TMan978Just through with words at this point lol
@@TMan978 Everyone uses pattern recognition. It's part of being human. It proves to me that race has nothing to do with much at all, but culture does.
But they're still black
"Black" is not a race, either. You guys have an entirely different phenotype to Australasian Aborigines, Ethiopians, Eritreans, etc (all of whom are "black")
"Black" is a skin tone range, not a race
Poor comparison with Aboriginals considering they are of Asian descent, and they are light to medium brown so you couldn't even say they have black skin. There are South Americas with darker skin and Aboriginals lol.
That would be a point if they were talking about global diasporas. They’re strictly talking about North American people. It’s colloquial. You’re being pedantic in a laymans conversation.
There is dumb people on the net pseudo intellect trying to sound smart 🤓 🤡🤓🤡, Black is a race Einstein
There are only 3 races
Mongoloid
Negroid
Caucasianoid
Everyone is either a purebred, a mix of two, or a mix of all three.
Its not a skin tone range, there are south Asians with darker skin than black people, you wouldn't call them black. Black is a race, its short for "of African decent".
SHE IS MIXED NOT BLACK!
love you guys, make me smile and laugh every time, we need you guys in todays world!!
I am Puerto Rican, born and raised. I identify as an American.
And she got her Gramps mad as hell one day when he said why can't u bring home a black fella" right in front of me. And she just looked at him and said trust me Gramps he can please any way u can think of, plus works hard, we just bought a condo, and just stopped by to let u know. Now we going to Kenya for 3 weeks. "So try not to have too much fun on ur rocking chair!!"
I don’t think she meant colour but the culture
Color has little to do with being “black.”
@@user-np1mt5pq4u exactly 🤙
Maybe she just meant they aren't "African Americans".
I'm balling my a** out and I aint got no balls.I'm crying
As someone that has hundreds of dominican friends (i live in nyc), this is accurate. The blacker they are the more they need to tell you about the lighter skinned people in their families (sometimes even show you pictures of people with the "good" hair). They really don't like being associated with black people at all.
Why would being called black be so offensive?? Iol….the underlying message here is hilarious to me. And no one is really talking about how being considered black is offensive and why…lol
@@longsleevethong1457 Idk bro, i'm white lol but this is my life long experience with Dominicans. They really like to hold on to those 2 drops of Native American blood for as long as they can.
@@longsleevethong1457there are a lot of stereotypes regarding American blacks. Most blacks outside of America dont like them. Most people actually
@@omarct that’s it! There ya go. There are negative stereotypes that people don’t want to be associated with
@@longsleevethong1457 Because they have a completely different culture than black American culture. It would be like me going to a majority black culture in Africa and people trying to tie me culturally to whatever white subgroup was there, let’s just say white Muslims for example. If the majority of blacks in that culture were Christians (especially Catholic) then you’d better believe I would feel more kinship with them than to the whites I have far less in common with.
She’s correct
the only group of people that label them self's after the color of there skin ITS CRAZY and very unintelligent
You guys are correct, the boat stopped at all of those islands before reaching America, that is why we all have the same unfortunate history.
The aversion is to the label.
One day we gon help kevin understand the difference between latino and Latina 😂😂😂😂😂
I’m Asian and my wife is black and we have 4 kids and 3 of them look straight up Asian with Asian hair and the 4th looks black and Asian.
When you research "Dominican is made up of", google gives you this: Dominican heritage is a mosaic of diverse ethnicities and races. Hispanic, Spanish European, African, and Indigenous ethnic groups as well as mixed, Black, and white races are all part of Dominican heritage.
They really are a unique diaspora. I totally get what the chick is saying. Weird thing is how strongly she feels about not wanting to be referred to as black….as if it’s a terrible thing lol. She would probably agree with Scott adams.
She don’t want to be associated with the thugs can u blame her
No wonder it's such a poor and violent country.
@@chuckg6635 all blacks are thugs ???
Yes most of us are mixed & the only ppl who have made this an issue is American BP who seem to be obsessed with us.
And yes, we don’t want to be associated with the most dysfunctional and degenerate culture in America.
I can't blame her!
Thank you guys for the laughs.
You guys crack me up. I LOVE YOU!
This video reminds me of your first videos where you guys brought this up about Caribbeans and Latinos saying they ain’t black when they look like Wesley snipes
I’m sure she’s actually talking about she’s not a black American similar to how Jamaicans are. Dominicans who are dark sometimes have the nickname or Negro and we say it in Spanish. But yes Dominicans are mixed with a bunch of stuff and our culture reflects it. I have white cousins and black ones, even have families with the same parents who have kids that are white to black.
That is EXACTLY what was discussed in the video.
@@Montenegro651 it was???
Dominicans dont have same hatred most black americans have.
THAT part! And this is why we wish they would just leave us alone!
That’s because they’re not black and don’t follow some of the craziness
@@Transformersarecoming4yourkidsbased username.
@@Transformersarecoming4yourkidsNope. You guys just have no idea what an ethnicity is. You guys aren’t African American but you are by definition black
as much as i normally agree with u guys...she is right with this one
She sure is.
No she's not. By that logic Jamaicans are not black either, they are Jamaicans. Haitian are not black they are Haitians. Germans are not white they are Germans.
@@clashofqueen93obviously she is not talking about her origin but about the crazy mix of ethnicities in dominicans, which is even higher than it already is in other Latinos. unfortunately (or thx god) there is no general definition to define ones race anymore, mostly because race is meanwhile based on "self-identification". even in the US it is long time ago that u could define a race (black/white) easily, nowadays everything is mixed up way too much. just because the left we are even having these kind of topics. maybe in the US she is street race black for other people but hey, the world is not just the US.
Nobody is black, I think everyone should just drop the word completely.
Just leave her alone. Have you been to sudan or other places in africa there definitely are black
Puerto Rico thinks the same thing
and
I think Africa laughs at us too.
She could be delineating between phenotype and what has become American Black Culture (which has been exported to the UK and other countries through media 'trend'). This 'culture' is what you guys spend much of your time complaining about. There is a huge difference between the cultures of Kenya and Jamaica, for example, 3 generations ago, from American Black Culture today. I'm pretty sure she's referring to culture, or, as it is in political vernacular 'Black with a capital B'.
She is definitely mixed. So she not wrong. We should come up with new names for ppl that are mixed. Non-offensive lol
but they would still be black just diffrent etchnicity
Aka nugga kulture
@@willgggg900 I feel like you guys definition of black is so broad that if I as a white dude got a bad sunburn and my skin turned ashy, you would be telling me I was I no longer white, but a redbone black man. 🤣😂
what tf are you talking about @@commotiocordis1037
Im Puerto Rican i did my dna i have like 8 different "nationalities" i have African but I'm not black just like i have Portuguese but im not white i am both and neither at the same time. This is Jim crow era one drop rule thinking 🤔.
The better question would be for dominicans is "do you have african ancestry and not are you black
@@James-ys6wm exactly!!!
The better question would be: where are you from? The Dominican Republic. Only in the U.S. are they conditioned to refer to Africa. What about the Spanish heritage? No! Just, Africa! When you stop and think, things are not so simple.
@user-np1mt5pq4u this video is about dominicans so obviously they will know we're they're from before they ask that question. obviously you ask if they have african ancestry if you know we're their from. Why you you go up to someone and ask " do you have african ancestry 😂 we already know about the Spanish and native ancestry in dominicans. This is for people who want to know if they have african ancestry. I know most dominicans are mixed with all three so I wouldn't ask about their african ancestry. This is for people who want to hear it from their mouth. That would be the best way to ask them instead of are you black, because most are a mixture of all three, so if you wanna know just ask about the african ancestry, not are you black because many represent the Spanish, native, and african heritage.
I'm not a human being, I know I look like one but I am not! 😂 😂
She knows the difference.
I dunno, as a white dood..I agree..DR people are DR people in my experience...I guess it's like saying Koreans and Japanese are the same people 😊
They are the same race bozo😂😂😂. Her ethnicity is Dr and her race is black
What kind of white are you?
Ignorance is bliss,I wonder 🤔 what are the 2 comments not showing... Have you been to DR or to a DR Neighborhood,Hair salons/barber 💈? I dated Dominicans, Haitians, Jamaicans and even one Brazilian...the skin tone was just confusing because they could have been sisters far as I'm concerned before hearing them talking
@@hollybanville474 I asked him what type of white person he was. No idea why it'd get deleted.....
@hollybanville474 not sure if this is directed at me...but yes, as a racecar guy from Florida I am highly aware of the cultural differences of my island mechanic coworkers and friends, neighbors etc...since you are the expert, why don't you express to me your feelings about the modern male car enthusiast in DR...or perhaps PR, or what Hatian doods are up to at the track?...anddd go
Why Americans love calling everyone black when some are mixed????are Americans the ones to define ethnicity now???
So called “black” people were upset when Dominican actress Zoe Saldaña played Nina Simone. Dominicans are not “black.”
Said like a TRUUUUUUE African American 🇺🇸
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Whenever Americans say "Black," they're never talking about Africans. They're almost certainly talking about *Black Americans.* I've seen these interactions with Black Americans vs Africans, West Indians, and even Haitians. Even Black Americans consider themselves different, and rightly so. Race can be categorized in a very broad manner. Ethnicity is far more specific, which will help you identify peoples far better than the melanin content of one's skin.
I'm an ethnic Dominican (U.S born, Dominican citizen by birthright). Apparently, I'm more mestizo than mulatto if we go by physical appearance, but that doesn't mean i don't have mulatto ancestry. We're quite mixed.
Fun fact: a lot of Dominicans who spend winters in the States won't be as dark as they are in DR since they wouldn't be in the sun all the time. Half my family was surprised to see how light their skin color was when they spent winters in NY.
I’m glad you guys make this videos
Glads I’m to that yous too are likes vedios. Grammar is just a suggestion….It’s not really necessary.
❤❤❤thats why i love these twins...
Exactly! Human race. 1 race. But there are a lot of different humans for sure!!!
WHO CARES!!!!!!????? Iam over it!!!
When you really get down to the nitty-gritty black is a crayon color. You don't see nobody calling Asians yellow.
But you do..
@@peterwalker7761 no idea what you're talking about. A skin color denotes nothing of substance when pertaining to identity
@@cwilliams7630 people do call Asians Yellow..People's skin colour Is a lot about identity .. Whites couldn't identify as Native American,Africans as Japanese and so on.... Identity- who/what you are.
@@peterwalker7761 so-called yellow just like so-called black. Like I said it doesn't denote anything of substance. There's no Nation called yellow, there's no language called yellow, there's no culture called yellow, etc
@@cwilliams7630 It refers to their skin colour.. people call Chinese etc Yellow..you said they don't .,I know they do,. .you know they do.. Unless you live under a rock.
Ethnicity? No.. nationality Yess
🗣️Say it loud! I’m black and I’m proud ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾
If you say so. Someday more people will be asking why.
@@user-np1mt5pq4uwe are the best at EVERYTHING. The beginning and the end. The alpha and the omega. The beauty, strength, talent, and resilience. I can go on and on. I mean… who else would I rather be 💃🏿💃🏿💃🏿
@@Godessgardenbut why do you call yourself black?
@@user-np1mt5pq4uoh! So we going there? Well. Indigenous, the originals, Native. How else can I relate my identity or race to you? It seems that this is what this video is about.
@@GodessgardenI’m referring to the term “black.” Why?
None of my Dominican friends are black
They probably pray & thank God
She have it away with periodt. Lol
Dot dot dot
Lol yeah she shouldn't have added the period at the end of her sentence 😂
Oh yeah there was a kid in college that was annoyed when I called him black. He kept saying no I am Dominican.
She is saying she is not African American she an Afro Latina
No she’s Dominican. Other latinos don’t have a prefix, why should she.
Well most of us are mixed sooooo she not wrong
Yes but this whole agenda movement with some saying we wuz everybody is making some people coocoo
She is exactly right
U hit it out the ball park,so right
It's a culture difference. I'm Jamaican and have a different cultural upbringing than Americans.
Many Dominicans including some of my relatives deny being black and they are midnight purple black too. But then again in America black means American so I see what she mean but she still has African in her ancestry.
Purple black Dominicans usually have Haitian parents that immigrated there. Go look it up .
America black and Dominican black are the same, all from one common ancestor. Even if they are trying to say they are native black, it's still that same as black Americans as we and natives share close blood.
I’m Haitian, but born in America and guess what? I’m black. Black doesn’t mean American to me and most would think I’m delusional if I say “I’m Haitian, not black. Black is generally used for the most of the African diaspora. Colonialism and slavery really messed us up. Most don’t even know where our ancestors came from specifically. Just a general region where they could’ve come from. No historical records, no original last names. This goes for all people who are descendants of African slaves, including Black Americans, Haitians and Dominicans.
@@KennyBucketz what I meant by my comment when I said in America that black means black American is when I was there I would hear them say “I’m black, white, Jamaican and Puerto Rican” or “I’m Nigerian and black” or “I’m Japanese, black and Mexican”. And when I asked these people what they mean by black they told me African American.
Nice to know you still think foolishly enough to label people as crayons
As a Dominican, I agree with these boys
Tu ta mal
Tenemos cultura propia. Claro que tenemos sangre africana. Pero decir que nosotros somos ingorantes por querer diferenciar nuestra cultura y nuestra gente es ignorancia.
Morenos/blacks son los Afro Americanos. Y nadie ni nada va a decirle a nuestra cultura como hablar y como usar nuestro lenguaje.
Por eso el que le interese debe claramente preguntar "eres de descendencia Africana?". Ya. Punto, y obvio el dominicano lo es.
Then we don’t claim ya confused ahhh…
La raza Latina no reclame a usted
Why are people so infatuated with this “black” label? It seems like people are too lazy to think critically. Instead they fire poor Aunt Jemima, Uncle Ben, and the likes. Suffering doesn’t come from letting go of the past, it comes from holding on.
😂😂😂😂😂well bless her heart, who could blame her 😂😂😂😂
she is definitly not black, she is attractive.
Black and white are merely terms that describe physical characteristics. Unfortunately, being “Black” has become synonymous with Black Americans, which can have a negative connotation. She obviously has African ancestry but she’s definitely not American 😁 This whole conversation is hilarious 🤣
Facts. She definitely looks black too.
@@cowel8734except that she’s not.
We also hold the sentiment that things like "Black History" is dumb AF. Dominican History is Dominican History, regardless of the races/ethnicities involved. Ditto every country but the U.S.A. We're aware that Americans refer to Black Americans when they say "black," even if it's "black history."
We don't agree with the shorthand, but we won't let them lump us in with them, either.
White
She does not wish to be regarded as a victim as some black people feel black is. Her race isn’t as important to her as her culture. All her choices are made from it.
Nah. It’s because of the negative stereotypes associated with African Americans. They think they are better people and do not want to be confused with what they perceive as degenerates. They think their culture is better. This is quite the conundrum. This is a weird racist like stance to take and whos gona call it “racist” and who’s gona listen?
That doesn't even make sense 🤦🏾♂️
u wot m8 ?
@@hollybanville474it makes perfect sense, but you’re not being objective enough to see it
Wtf are u ppl talking about 💀
My culture is American….. I had no idea yellow bellies🙄
Really enjoy your damn good show!!! Cheers
She wished that hair grew out her skull like that
That's clearly her hair, bud. Your ignorance is showing , you might want to tuck that in before you trip.
@@cassandrahughes2897yeah it’s her hair that she dyed blonde
@@cassandrahughes2897he means her hair is nappy…not straight
Best case scenario: she has wavy hair she straightened and dyed. It's *very common* for our people.
Worst case scenario: it's frizzy or curly and she straightened it out, then bleached it.
We do not approve of wigs outside of entertainment.
One topic not mentioned, is that quite often, Dominican siblings have different skin color at birth. As someone who spent 10 years of my youth in the Dominican Republic, I had friends in that category. Its a beautiful cultural " melting pot" -- which has its own identity, at the same time
Some of my kids were a darker tan, others were white. The same can be said of many cousins born light but got more melanin later and vice-versa.
We're truly a melting pot. Ethnicity and nationality is much easier to identify than vague race classifications. We're not caught-up with all of that. It's why Ulysses S. Grant marveled at our mixed society vs America's segregated one. He even proposed to send newly freed slaves to Santo Domingo and Haiti to ease tensions in the States while proposing a freer life over here.
2:03 y'all are the Americans she was talking to 😂
Yall went in lol
Damn good show
You call yourself American, but when someone else says they are “a nationality” it’s a problem.
You need to focus. Nationality and race is not the same thing
In all seriousness, she appears to meet the Definition of Creole,
We are MIXED RACE. I am Dominican. We have white, black, and ingenious DNA.
I have my own perspective. I do not consider ANY person a color. I speak publicly about this. My ancestors advised me to not consider myself or anyone else a “color”. The GOVERNMENT created race groups. Open your eyes people. I live in America- my heritage is Egyptian/Persian/Hindi/Nigerian. I refuse to classify myself as a government created group.
She's a multiracial person, so not entirely black or white or Hispanic or other Indigenous ethnic groups! So there's no reason why she should say she's specifically black or any other race. I perfectly agree with her, mainly when her culture is Hispanic instead or black!
She's simply Dominican, which means a person of mixed races. Period.
It's completely illogical for you to state that a person should be black simply because he/she has a percentage of black blood and ignore all the other lineages.
Shes not multi racial she has multiple nationalities. Human is the race there arent different races of human lol. People are so uneducated coming out of school its crazy.
The Hodge Twins look like there mixed, so what's your point. It's self hate that has been passed down for centuries. At this point they're lost
As a Dominican, you are absolutely correct! We are multi racial… European, indigenous, African
Hispanic & Latin Is White though
I'm not white, I'm Irish. 😂😂
My wife is black (Jamaican) our 3 kids are mixed. I'm sooooo glad we all grew up in Canada cuz I can count on one hand in the last 15 years, 20 I should say cuz I dated a black woman before I met the love of my life. But on the fingers probably 4 times I've heard racist comments only by other black people. And my wife says she never recieves racism by white people. It's always black people when they see us together.
I mean, she’s kinda right. She’s Dominican. She doesn’t fall under a blanket term.
Shes black.
Dominican is a nationality. Not a race. Just like how I’m from America, American isn’t my race. Now “black” to me is just a color, and not a race. Black is what people see when they close they’re eyes at night 😂💯
be careful americans will go after you.
I say she's 💯
@@jserius315exactly 😂
Gotta admit she has something of a point, below is taken from Google.
The people of the Dominican Republic are mainly of Spanish descent, some pure white, others mixed with African American blood, others with an admixture of Indian, and still others a combination of white, Indian, and negro. While the pure black, or nearly black, African American is far less in evidence than in Haiti.
She herself looks mixed race.
Black people in America have very diverse ethnic backgrounds as well due to circumstances. No one in the US is pure black or even close to it.
African... NOT African American.🤦♀️
None sense, Black is not a skin tone its a race
Black people in America are on average only 75% African. They are often mixed with European and Native American as well, but they’re still BLACK. Cut it out. This woman is less mixed than many Dominicans are. The majority of her ancestry is probably African. She is Dominican by nationality, Latina by ethnicity, and majority black by race. She’s an Afro-Latina from Dominican Republic. She’s mostly black regardless of her ethnicity and culture.
@@hollybanville474You just contradicted yourself. Race is based on skin tone, but also race was made up to divide us. Skin tones are made up of many different colors. Race isn’t scientific.
I think she's confusing black with ratchet😂😂
“…It will not be easy to saddle the Caribbean with this name even though the influence of the United States dollar is behind it.”
Folks, come on. There is a huge difference in culture, language, upbring, class, and demographic. Dominicans have a mixed cultures: Spanish, Native Indian, African, and some European. They are also from an Island half Haiti and Dominican Republic. Both areas were colonized by Spain and France.
No! The Dominicans (some) are an admixture of Spaniards (Tawny-complexioned=dark-skinned), and the original Indians that are now being referred to as "African Americans." The whole Island was known as Quisqueya (eastern part) and Ayiti.
True, they were colonized by the Spaniards and the French --- who were tawny looking people as well.
Bro, you made yourself look stupid you said Spanish and some European...Spanish is European ffs this country is doomed.
@@rheddhawkmariea5875 Relax!
@@Thiago_TT_MIA
Aye, when it comes down to correcting misinformation, then I'm on it with the REAL history to who we are.
Black Americans have the same mixture of european, natives and African blood. Most Black Americans are British/Irish, African, and Native, instead of Spanish and Native but we have the SAME amount of African blood.
I agree with that woman, Im Puerto Rican we not black regardless of what color we are…couple videos ago ya was just talking about the culture of black ppl and they cant help it…everytime ya talk about chicago ya always talk about the black negro and the culture of black ppl intertwined, we latinos are different because we have different cultures we are not black ya wrong on this 1….also as a police officer when filling out paperwork to determine someones race theres a black box and hispanic box to check off so if their dominican you would check off hispanic not black…its like comparing a doberman and a rottweiler same color two different breeds
I’ve been talking about this with many people the past couple of weeks wth. Why is this relevant now
I’m Dominican and I’m light skin but l have Haitian also my great grandmother was Haitian but my great grandfather was Dominican we are mixed
You are Latina!
You have color and you have culture. As a dominican i feel closer to African roots than my black brothers in US coast to coast, having less melanin. Our food, our rhythms, our jargon.
My Nigerian friend makes fufú that tastes like my mom’s mangú. Merengue music, original to Dominicans, is more African than not.
If some of we have adopted the man’s culture, then yes - color will be the sole determining factor for rootedness.
Regardless though, this mangú is better than fast food.
Most of us are not black we are more White but ok buddy if you sleep better at night
I’ve been to DR twice. Id consider them closer to being Latino.
Latino/Hispanic is her ethnicity/culture. “Black” is a race. I think most of them say they aren’t “black” in the US to distinguish themselves culturally
Of course lol, we speak Spanish and are from Latin America which makes us Latino lol
They say that because they don't like being black 😂😂😂@@SimplyComplicated1
There’s white and black Dominicans
Of course lol, they speak Spanish And they’re from Latin America
I agree 110%. Been explaining this to my peeps forever and always get second guessed. Native is Taino not Aztec. Spanish isn’t Spaniard but Sephardic Jew. African is of Afro 🖖🏽
Kev be educating us in this one
I love these two. They are straight to the point and very funny.