Did This Bird Really Re-Evolve?

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    About 136,000 years ago, on a coral atoll in the Indian Ocean, there lived a flightless bird. And when this atoll was swallowed up by the waves, that bird went extinct. ... Or did it? Did the flightless Aldabra rail evolve twice?
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  • @BizarreBeasts
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      @HassanMohamed-rm1cb Місяць тому +1

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    • @graffic13
      @graffic13 Місяць тому +1

      Wish we'd see aldabra rails cohabed with aldabra tortoises in zoo's they're so cute

    • @huldu
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    • @michaelweisang
      @michaelweisang Місяць тому +1

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  • @tylerknowsanimals
    @tylerknowsanimals Місяць тому +775

    Thank you for not falling down the aforementioned media rabbit hole of “this bird evolved twice” and instead establishing the probable distinction between the two iterations. And regardless, this was a very interesting video, as per usual!

    • @omnirath
      @omnirath Місяць тому +7

      Did you expect otherwise from this channel ?

    • @sleepyninjarin7971
      @sleepyninjarin7971 29 днів тому +4

      Honestly I ignored all media coverage of this until I saw this video and.... it ended up so interesting

    • @charliemcconlough
      @charliemcconlough 27 днів тому

      It didn’t even talk about the bird…

    • @carlosandleon
      @carlosandleon 26 днів тому

      I mean anyone with 2 braincells know the distinction bro.

    • @liamevans1508
      @liamevans1508 19 днів тому

      @@carlosandleonno, science needs taught, humans don’t inherently know anything

  • @skyem5250
    @skyem5250 Місяць тому +501

    so sad that all the rails went extinct in the 1800s when they were killed to make railroads

    • @Lolibeth
      @Lolibeth Місяць тому +86

      Fun fact! Their use in railroads led to breeding programs and an explosion in their populations, but it was ultimately the coming of cars and paved roads that led to their decline

    • @c.jishnu378
      @c.jishnu378 Місяць тому +15

      ​@@Lolibeth Facts.

    • @luurankoiset9120
      @luurankoiset9120 29 днів тому +10

      Boo - but also, bravo!

    • @atgosh
      @atgosh 27 днів тому +11

      When my sustainability analyst sister says taking the train is more environmentally friendly than driving my car. No, Mikaela, train is murder!

    • @nickdarr7328
      @nickdarr7328 19 днів тому

      Yes but it was necessary. It made the extinction of Indians, scientific name: native Americans, much easier.

  • @ConnorHay
    @ConnorHay Місяць тому +522

    The species didn’t re-evolve, the part just got recast

    • @HogBurger
      @HogBurger 29 днів тому +9

      clever…

    • @seanrowshandel1680
      @seanrowshandel1680 26 днів тому +2

      In the future, we will either create mutually beneficial relationships with all of these people and animals whom we haven't yet met (such as these rails) which will be worth defending, or we will be guilty of being "Against" these harmonious relationships.
      Some things never become less modern. People who love their job and wouldn't mind being left alone have freedom and are subject to their own intrapersonal "judgement" regarding any mistakes which they've made while "under oath". This is what guides people toward success. Some of us have no identity, nor oath. It seems like the oath is like a fountain from which identity is granted. So our focus on safety is superfluous, but success/progress are NOT. What if we were trying to MORE than simply get things "back to normal"? Do you want things to be Better Than Normal for the first time? What's the Oath for that? What's the identity of people who want things to be Better than normal? Do they not have identities yet?
      We don't yet have a "Steve Irwin-ist" era of journalism where "history is defined by the victor".

    • @zathtanks
      @zathtanks 26 днів тому +4

      @@seanrowshandel1680ark survival evolved story is that humans and everything on earth is Mosul extinct (except humans on genesis ships in stasis) and we leftbhind technology able to recreate any life that ever lived and even alter its code

    • @zathtanks
      @zathtanks 26 днів тому

      Mostly not Mosul

    • @bmolitor615
      @bmolitor615 25 днів тому

      hey mark that spoiler alert :)

  • @windsorsa
    @windsorsa Місяць тому +357

    Rail vs Crab looks like a real life Pokémon battle

    • @jamesoshea580
      @jamesoshea580 Місяць тому +24

      "Rail uses peck. It is not very effective"

    • @y0nd3r
      @y0nd3r Місяць тому +3

      Or maybe Another Crabs Treasure?

    • @NinaDmytraczenko
      @NinaDmytraczenko Місяць тому +14

      It really looks like a turn based fight 😂😂

    • @user-un8tv1pp8m
      @user-un8tv1pp8m Місяць тому +12

      @@jamesoshea580 "Crab waves claw - misses."

    • @godshowman1878
      @godshowman1878 28 днів тому +9

      ​@@user-un8tv1pp8mrail uses bird dance and it's attack increases

  • @nothereanymore3941
    @nothereanymore3941 16 днів тому +37

    The clip where the rail starts pecking the tortoise and the tortoise looks like it’s going “hey cmon man”

  • @graemebloodworth8991
    @graemebloodworth8991 Місяць тому +144

    i would love to get a plants series like this. Theres SO many weird plants. Sandbox trees and exploding cucumbers!

    • @graemebloodworth8991
      @graemebloodworth8991 Місяць тому +4

      Also i would love to consult if something were to come of that...

    • @suzettehenderson9278
      @suzettehenderson9278 Місяць тому

      Check out floralogic

    • @skivvia
      @skivvia Місяць тому +4

      Yes! and the Gympie Gympie from Australia

    • @victoriaeads6126
      @victoriaeads6126 29 днів тому +7

      That would be pretty wonderful. All the stinky plants, exploding plants, plants that just ALWAYS choose violence, plants that will both sting you AND can be used to soothe the sting they just made, plants that give you sun sensitivity for extended periods of time...

    • @Adi-8529
      @Adi-8529 27 днів тому

      That would be awesome!!

  • @leothebugnerd
    @leothebugnerd Місяць тому +211

    "Did This Bird Really Evolve Twice?"
    crabs: amateurs

    • @primevalrex7266
      @primevalrex7266 Місяць тому +30

      This is why the rail is out for those crabs
      Peace was never an option in the re-evolution community

    • @dingchat555
      @dingchat555 27 днів тому +11

      @@primevalrex7266 The rails are leading an uprising against the crabs. It's a revolution

    • @LilFeralGangrel
      @LilFeralGangrel 26 днів тому +5

      Trees: 😎

    • @mhead1117
      @mhead1117 25 днів тому +1

      Crabs are ugly tho so who really won?

    • @leothebugnerd
      @leothebugnerd 25 днів тому

      @@mhead1117 your mom is ugly
      but seriously, do not insult crabs in my presence

  • @victoriaeads6126
    @victoriaeads6126 Місяць тому +120

    I was just interested until they showed the clip with the chicks OMIGOSH, THE ADORABLE RAIL BABIES! They are so FLUFFY!!!!!❤❤❤

    • @MaoRatto
      @MaoRatto Місяць тому +2

      It's the do-do bird 2.0!

    • @ArawnOfAnnwn
      @ArawnOfAnnwn Місяць тому +7

      Tbf most birds chicks are fluffy. :D

    • @MatthewTheWanderer
      @MatthewTheWanderer Місяць тому +4

      I also found it interesting how the babies are completely black but the adults are different colors.

    • @victoriaeads6126
      @victoriaeads6126 29 днів тому +2

      Oh, I am an equal opportunity lover of fluffy chicklets 😂 we are birb folks over here. I agree about the color difference, all black growing into more colorful is somewhat unusual.

  • @thelastsliceofbread4098
    @thelastsliceofbread4098 21 день тому +30

    If I had a nickle for every time a flightless aldabra rail evolved on the Aldabra atoll I'd have two nickles. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice, right?

    • @Essex121514
      @Essex121514 11 днів тому +1

      "Only 2x? Those are rookie numbers."~ Crabs

  • @T0nyTheArtist
    @T0nyTheArtist Місяць тому +62

    So we didn't get a re-release.
    We got a remake.

  • @radagastwiz
    @radagastwiz Місяць тому +70

    My favorite name for a flightless rail is an Atlantic species, the Inaccessible Island Rail. Named for its home island, which is not so much hard to get to as hard to set foot on.

  • @SquirmyJuice
    @SquirmyJuice 24 дні тому +15

    Nature said "extinct". Bird said "nuh uh"

  • @messyhair42
    @messyhair42 Місяць тому +43

    Thank you for reminding me about the Reunion swamp hen, I'd forgotten about it since Brady last mentioned it

  • @SchuylerS
    @SchuylerS 29 днів тому +12

    Bizarre beast suggestion: Nothobranchius killifish
    Shortest lifecycle of a vertebrate species. Nothobranchius Fuzeri mature, spawn, and die within three months. They lay there eggs in mud that dries out for months until rain comes again. Bonus: they're super colorful and cool looking!

    • @neutralseife8419
      @neutralseife8419 16 днів тому +2

      OMG YES killifish are so cool! I have a species of longer living ones and its interesting how their eggs have a far longer incubation period then most fish of that size. I guess that is because their ancestors where seasonal fish that readapted to a "normal" livecycle. I don't know if this is actually the case for this genus (Epiplatys), but i heard that there is genetic evidence in some killifish, that they have switched between stategies multiple times in the past, which is just evolution at it's finest.

    • @moekitsune
      @moekitsune 2 дні тому

      YES KILLIFISH ARE SO COOL

  • @dariuscasaus57
    @dariuscasaus57 26 днів тому +9

    Why does the rail at 2:15 have to be so rude? The Aldabra tortoise is just minding its own business

  • @YouTubeallowedmynametobestolen
    @YouTubeallowedmynametobestolen 28 днів тому +9

    It seems to me that this is just convergent evolution, but happening at different times.
    Rather than two species of far different classifications evolving into similar forms, it's two species of far different times evolving into similar forms.

    • @Dr.Ian-Plect
      @Dr.Ian-Plect 26 днів тому +2

      Your wording is incorrect by not presenting valid comparisons, but that aside, one point; convergence doesn't require the taxa to be contemporaneous, so that part is irrelevant.

    • @YouTubeallowedmynametobestolen
      @YouTubeallowedmynametobestolen 26 днів тому +2

      @@Dr.Ian-Plect Thanks, Doc!

  • @thatpandaz6094
    @thatpandaz6094 26 днів тому +10

    IS THIS MAN ON EVERY UA-cam CHANNEL????

    • @greywolf7577
      @greywolf7577 16 днів тому +7

      Wait until you meet Simon Whistler.

    • @evancombs5159
      @evancombs5159 9 днів тому

      @@greywolf7577 I feel like every day he starts a new channel that I then tell UA-cam to block, only for me to get recommended a new video from him on another channel the next day.

    • @mildlydazed9608
      @mildlydazed9608 8 днів тому

      There’s 10 people somehow creating every channel lol

  • @MaryAnnNytowl
    @MaryAnnNytowl 22 дні тому +7

    Awwww... those little black fluffybutt Rails are adorable! 🖤🖤 And this is (as Hank mentioned) like how things like to become crabs, except in birds, so it's not really so surprising, IMO. Interesting, yes - very! But not horribly strange. 😊

  • @victoriaeads6126
    @victoriaeads6126 Місяць тому +20

    Wow, those rails have deep and enduring beef with crabs, I'll bet the crabs have a tendency to predate rail eggs and young chicks. Or they just don't like the look of ocean bugs? 🤔

    • @NinaDmytraczenko
      @NinaDmytraczenko Місяць тому +10

      I mean, the crabs already won the first round, with that whole extinction of the first rail so... Maybe the new birds want generational revenge?

    • @Lolibeth
      @Lolibeth Місяць тому +2

      They're tasty

    • @sophierobinson2738
      @sophierobinson2738 Місяць тому

      “I will gradually peck all the tasty bits from this pinchy bug.”

    • @RailfoxStudios
      @RailfoxStudios 29 днів тому +2

      It can be all of the above. It's rarely if ever that black and white when it comes to nature.

    • @deeespinal9666
      @deeespinal9666 25 днів тому

      We talking bout species that will each eat they own kind the moment any red shows from an injury

  • @MrT_Rex
    @MrT_Rex Місяць тому +34

    That bird : HELLO BOYS, I'M BAAAACK

    • @YaManImCool
      @YaManImCool 11 днів тому

      Ah no, wrong bird. It's Quaids rail that's attributed with that particular call.

  • @njlkerins
    @njlkerins Місяць тому +26

    "Part of a train track" (Dad joke alert!) :-D

  • @LokiScarletWasHere
    @LokiScarletWasHere 10 днів тому +3

    Flightless bird crabification

  • @sps6374
    @sps6374 23 дні тому +3

    « Defining a species can be messy »
    _PTSD throwback to Clint’s Reptiles crazy phylogenetic trees_

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  • @elainebelzDetroit
    @elainebelzDetroit 3 години тому

    I like the idea of an atoll in Seychelles that's basically a retirement home where a bird species can go to stop flying. It's sorta like Mackinac Island where they don't allow cars, except it's entirely different, actually.

  • @sasariwtf
    @sasariwtf 11 днів тому

    Yall have no idea how much i appreciate another bird video after i subscribed to the pin service for that BEAUTIFUL raven pin

  • @etheriousjackal5577
    @etheriousjackal5577 26 днів тому +2

    These birds are a menace. Look at the way they peck the crabs and annoy the poor turtle..!

  • @noelramirez1551
    @noelramirez1551 22 дні тому +2

    Lol thinking you've killed the last one and you start hearing the boys are back in town in the distance

  • @benmcreynolds8581
    @benmcreynolds8581 15 днів тому +1

    Seeing the bird and the Crabs go after each other is so epic. The crabs are nearly the same size as the rails.. It makes the battle that much more intense

  • @andrewlietz2798
    @andrewlietz2798 24 дні тому +3

    Im convinced life on another planet wont seeem that bizarre, q lot of living things will look incredible similar, filling similar roles as on Earth, but there may be visible differences that at first glance seem uncanny, but really aren't effectively different all too much.

  • @annsidbrant7616
    @annsidbrant7616 15 днів тому

    Always good to see and hear Hank Greene!

  • @Nikki_Baugher
    @Nikki_Baugher 19 днів тому

    I'm happy to see you still making videos. Hang in there.

  • @ryuuguu01
    @ryuuguu01 29 днів тому +2

    136K years is well within the age at which DNA can be extracted. I wonder if these fossils were preserved in a way that would allow DNA extraction. Comparing two versions of this flightless rail is something evolutionary biologists would enjoy.

  • @rafaelperalta1676
    @rafaelperalta1676 10 днів тому

    I just can't stop being entertained by the multiple clips of rails versus crabs.

  • @ndowroccus4168
    @ndowroccus4168 8 днів тому

    I’m glad this is being addressed.
    The coolest thing about evolution, is how things can fill in blanks in extinctions….

  • @Shaden0040
    @Shaden0040 Місяць тому +13

    the correct term for siniment around a fossil is called a matrix.

    • @revolution1237
      @revolution1237 Місяць тому

      When you're a paleontologist and someone says "Matrix":
      "Ah, the sediment or rock that encloses a fossil. Fascinating!"
      When you're a movie fan and someone says "Matrix":
      "Red pill or blue pill? Welcome to the real world, Neo!"

  • @alexanderren1097
    @alexanderren1097 2 дні тому

    Omniman: “What’s another 17,000 years? I can always start again. Make another bird!”

  • @matteoluisrizzo
    @matteoluisrizzo 24 дні тому +2

    are you assuming they were extinct? perhaps maybe they found a way to survive.
    remember.. "life uh... finds a way"

    • @mayaenglish5424
      @mayaenglish5424 19 днів тому

      Unless they developed gills that seems unlikely from the information presented.

    • @JaniceLHz
      @JaniceLHz 15 днів тому

      Another commenter said that rails can swim. Could they have swum to a nearby higher island, then descendants swam back when this island reappeared?

  • @antonioferrari241
    @antonioferrari241 15 днів тому +1

    Humans: How are you not dead?!
    Rail: I have no idea!

  • @GaryDunion
    @GaryDunion Місяць тому +9

    Wild that I had never heard the word gallinule before! We do have one species in Britain and it's super common, but we call it them moorhens.

  • @starrywizdom
    @starrywizdom 11 днів тому

    Thanks for showcasing flightless island rails. The first animal I ever learned of as being extinct in the wild but still extant in zoos was the Guam Rail, from reading the placard about it next to its exhibit in the San Diego Zoo. It made a big impression on me at the time, but I wasn't the only one to be impressed by the Guam Rail's plight. Due to breeding & re-introduction programs, in 2019, the species became only the second bird after the California condor to be reclassified by the IUCN from extinct in the wild to critically endangered. Go flightless island rails!

  • @kjracz15
    @kjracz15 28 днів тому +1

    The only rail I see often is the spotted rail. Whenever I go mountain biking on my local trails, 10/10 they'll run so fast to hide. Some will even crash against dry twigs or stumble. 😂

  • @MogofWar
    @MogofWar 9 днів тому

    Another possibility is the older version didn't become fully flightless and flight capable specimens migrated away from the island when it began to disappear. I guess that subspecies would have gone extinct by admixing with the cousin population of which it initially split though.

  • @quitlife9279
    @quitlife9279 20 днів тому +3

    Well rails can swim, so it's theoretically possible to be the same population...

    • @JJLom777
      @JJLom777 19 днів тому

      That was my thought, as well.

    • @JaniceLHz
      @JaniceLHz 15 днів тому +2

      Interesting idea.
      Are other islands close enough for the rails to swim to? Has anyone done DNA testing of flightless rails on separate but nearby islands to see if that gives us evidence?

    • @alelekitaponga
      @alelekitaponga День тому

      Other theoritically possibility is both iterations of rail could technically produce fetile offspring and count as the same species. No idea if the genetic drift makes that impossible or not.

  • @Shaden0040
    @Shaden0040 Місяць тому +8

    please do an episode on the Aldabra tortoise the second largest tortoise in the world and they are endangered. And you can get one from a reputable breeder causeway they are being bred commercially be aware they are the second largest tortoise they can weigh up to 500 lbs. And they're very very friendly.

    • @foxgloved8922
      @foxgloved8922 Місяць тому +5

      Usually endangered animals can’t be bought because, breeders or not, rareness encourages poaching. What’s different in this case?

    • @BizarreBeasts
      @BizarreBeasts  Місяць тому +9

      We have done an episode on giant tortoises! ua-cam.com/video/v_g9S0Ys-p8/v-deo.htmlsi=9L_F0vwKV-PdVpVg

    • @keithfaulkner6319
      @keithfaulkner6319 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@foxgloved8922 aldabras are not endangered. They're all over their native environment.
      Galapago tortoises, ARE endangered, and you can't get them.
      Totally different species.

    • @foxgloved8922
      @foxgloved8922 Місяць тому

      @@keithfaulkner6319 thanks for the clarification. OP made it sound like they are advocating for purchasing an endangered animal.

    • @JaniceLHz
      @JaniceLHz 15 днів тому +1

      Aldabra tortoises are vulnerable (just one step from endangered) according to Wikipedia and PBS and IUCN. So @shaden0040's comment was incorrect, but there is indeed concern about the species. IUCN's website states their status was assessed in 1996, which is 28 years ago; I wonder if they are doing better or worse now. The IUCN website notes that (in 1996, I assume) "population severely fragmented", "continuing decline of mature individuals", "continuing decline in area, extent, and/or quality of habitat".

  • @JohnDrummondPhoto
    @JohnDrummondPhoto Місяць тому +5

    Wasn't the dodo a flightless pigeon, rather than a rail?

    • @tysonwastaken
      @tysonwastaken Місяць тому +3

      i think he meant that there's more extinct rails rather than dodos being rails

    • @theapexsurvivor9538
      @theapexsurvivor9538 25 днів тому

      Technically I'm pretty sure dodos are part of the Paleaognathae

    • @JohnDrummondPhoto
      @JohnDrummondPhoto 25 днів тому +2

      @@theapexsurvivor9538 no, I checked. They're definitely part of the Columbidae (pigeons).

    • @mayaenglish5424
      @mayaenglish5424 19 днів тому

      He didn't say they were rails, just another flightless bird in the area!

  • @LeBatteur
    @LeBatteur 14 днів тому

    “Crab-shaped” is such a delightful descriptor.

  • @sergeantsonso3490
    @sergeantsonso3490 20 днів тому +3

    if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, smells like a duck, eats like a duck, raises young like a duck, exhibits all the exact same behaviors as a duck, evolved from the same older bird as a duck, is indistinguishable from a duck even under close scrutiny and under many microscopes, it might not be a duck, because one protein in it's RNA sequence is slightly different.
    yeah that tracks logically.

  • @Neuralatrophy
    @Neuralatrophy 5 днів тому

    Perhaps the core species has a recessive trait that will reduce the wings over time which also plays a role in some other positive core trait so that it isn't lost. Isolated populations without selective pressures will continue to reduce the wings until fully flightless thus the flightless rail is inevitable regardless of the species/subspecies of rail.

  • @KBRoller
    @KBRoller 5 днів тому

    So basically, it's a case of convergent evolution with a common ancestor. A evolved into B, and then later A evolved into C; B and C just happen to have similar traits because they evolved under similar (basically identical) conditions and started from the same form. Neat!

  • @iamsheel
    @iamsheel 22 дні тому +1

    This seems like Zelda games lore shenanigans

  • @iguanawomanclaudiahodari3579
    @iguanawomanclaudiahodari3579 23 дні тому +1

    Flightless Cormorants in Gálapagos are ground nesting birds. Thanks for your interestingly bizarre video

  • @bramvanduijn8086
    @bramvanduijn8086 14 днів тому +1

    It all comes down to the definition of a species. Two populations are considered two species if they cannot succesfully produce fertile offspring. A couple common reasons for this are breeding season mismatch, genital size or shape mismatch, and geographic isolation. In the case of these rail species, the seperation is temporal. Individuals of these species could never produce fertile offspring because there's a many millenia mismatch between their breeding seasons, on account of one of them being extinct.

    • @alelekitaponga
      @alelekitaponga День тому

      That's a classic case of technically correct.

  • @Rubrickety
    @Rubrickety 13 днів тому

    I noticed that Hank carefully avoided mentioning the third rail.

  • @jeremysart
    @jeremysart 16 днів тому

    How long has this channel existed and how did I not know about it!?

  • @Noxturne09
    @Noxturne09 5 днів тому

    Please upload more rail vs crab footage!!!!

  • @simonwatkins999
    @simonwatkins999 8 днів тому

    The rail is only found on Picard Island, where cats have been eradicated, not anywhere else.

  • @ch.dj94
    @ch.dj94 Місяць тому +2

    They don't evolve twice. They were just island boys...

  • @Brian-uy2tj
    @Brian-uy2tj 14 днів тому

    What I found interesting was in the scenes where you see the bird pecking at a relatively large crab, I noticed that it was a female crab carrying eggs and the bird isn't so much pecking at the crab as much as it is stealing the crabs eggs. That is one way to keep the land crab population under control.

  • @aliastheabnormal
    @aliastheabnormal 17 днів тому

    Bird versus crab. A rivalry as old as time.

  • @cmoor8616
    @cmoor8616 10 днів тому

    Thanos: I am inevitable.
    Some atoll bird: 🐦

  • @PirateOfTheNorth
    @PirateOfTheNorth 13 днів тому

    Cool, I was not expecting to see Hank Green here when I clicked on this video

  • @LDProductionsClass
    @LDProductionsClass Місяць тому +4

    The book "Improbable Destinies" is about this feature of evolution. It covers evolutionary experiments with introducing lizards to tiny islands in the Caribbean and allowing tiny fish to colonize pools upstream.

  • @Zach-ku6eu
    @Zach-ku6eu 29 днів тому

    Weren't kidding about them curls! Good job though.

  • @TheTheiceking
    @TheTheiceking 27 днів тому

    love the background, ill get that too one day ha

  • @NewMessage
    @NewMessage Місяць тому +7

    Man, life isn't hard enough the firs time 'round?

    • @NinaDmytraczenko
      @NinaDmytraczenko Місяць тому +1

      Right? I would've just stayed home (Madagascar), flying all the way to Aldabra seems like such a chore. And now there are humans, to make matters worse

  • @martinwinther6013
    @martinwinther6013 20 днів тому +1

    How many times have the sabertooth tiger re evolved??
    (im waiting for the next round here)

  • @lauracassidy8152
    @lauracassidy8152 9 днів тому

    Hank your new hair looks so great! I hope you think so as well. Keep up the awesome.

  • @alexandraleimbach8290
    @alexandraleimbach8290 21 день тому +3

    Was the dodo not related to pigeons ? Is there new evidence out ?

    • @BizarreBeasts
      @BizarreBeasts  21 день тому +3

      You are right! Dodo's are related to pigeons! We were just saying that they are the most famous flightless bird that lived on an island in the Indian Ocean, not that they were also rails.

    • @alexandraleimbach8290
      @alexandraleimbach8290 21 день тому +2

      @@BizarreBeasts Ah ok. Then i misunderstood. Thanks

  • @sirsir9665
    @sirsir9665 День тому

    You know a evolution trait works well when you keep seeing copies of it in nature.

  • @Kimmaline
    @Kimmaline 13 днів тому

    Is the rail going after the crab, or the eggs it's carrying on it's underside? It looked to me like they were just trying to pluck off a few eggs, not take out the entire crabby boi.

  • @wingsabre
    @wingsabre 10 годин тому

    What if these birds crossbreeds and are like feral pigs where when they enter a certain area, their recessive genes or different methylation pattern on phenotype expression become active. When they enter a different environment, the environmental stress forces them to activate or de methylate enough genes to make their offspring express a different phenotype. If that’s the case then these birds never really went extinct as much as the phenotypic variant went dormant as there were no environment that could utilize it.

  • @OorahhColeman
    @OorahhColeman 25 днів тому

    Just reading about the Inaccessible Island Rail on Wikipedia and had to come back to this.

  • @zoolover4669
    @zoolover4669 Місяць тому +4

    I love rails. They are one of my favorite groups of birds.

  • @capnstewy55
    @capnstewy55 16 днів тому +1

    Flight is a disadvantage...until it's a huge advantage.

  • @grandgojira5485
    @grandgojira5485 15 днів тому

    Eistein's definition of insanity is attempting the same wrong answer repeatedly with no adjustment after it fails.

  • @futball51
    @futball51 12 днів тому

    Did I see a reference to the Réunion swamphen? The official bird of Hello Internet?

  • @TestUser-cf4wj
    @TestUser-cf4wj 5 днів тому

    So this isnt two identical evolutions of the same parent species, but this _near_ identical evolution of the same parent species raises an interesting evolutionary possibility: could iterative evolution be a factor in the development of traits that are reinserted into the parent population?
    Say theres an island that is periodically connected to the mainland when sea levels drop where flightless birds evolve during periods of isolation, that are then reintroduced to their flying relatives when the island becomes connected again. The level of speciation isnt so radical that the two populations can't interbreed, so the flightless gene is taken up by the flying population. This process repeats many times until enough copies of the flightless gene get introduced to the flying population that it primes the flying population to evolve flightlessness at the drop of a hat.
    Or something similar. I was actually thinking about hammerhead sharks, but i dont think there's any evidence that they went through iterative evolution.

  • @Mumbamumba
    @Mumbamumba 20 днів тому

    You should try a Rollladen for sleeping. It's divine.

  • @Jeremy_936
    @Jeremy_936 19 днів тому

    Similar to the Eastern Coyote, a newcomer to the Eastern US and a recent wolf-coyote hybrid, which has filled the niche of the nearly extinct Red Wolf, which was probably also a wolf-coyote hybrid from tens of thousands of years ago.

  • @benmcreynolds8581
    @benmcreynolds8581 15 днів тому

    I would hope that certain birds like that would develop the ability to at least float on top if the water. A lot like how Ducks do.. Obviously they won't have the waterproofing effect that most birds that evolved to interact with water have developed

  • @Terjavez
    @Terjavez 25 днів тому

    I wonder if this channel ever attached the subject of the blue iguana

  • @BankruptGreek
    @BankruptGreek 18 днів тому

    the remaster everyone wanted

  • @j5892000
    @j5892000 7 днів тому

    Even if they were flightless they can still float and swim. Chickens can also float and swim.. . Some died but some swam or floated away when still alive then came back after they changed a bit

  • @Hangreek
    @Hangreek Місяць тому

    I love your channel

  • @georgeb.wolffsohn30
    @georgeb.wolffsohn30 10 днів тому +1

    I thought Dodos were pigeons .

    • @Semperdendron
      @Semperdendron 10 днів тому

      Yep. Me too. And according to wikipedia as well.

  • @Flirtz420
    @Flirtz420 20 днів тому

    Good video
    💙

  • @JaekSean
    @JaekSean 6 днів тому

    What if some of them were just holding their breath until the island came back?

  • @edgeeffect
    @edgeeffect 27 днів тому

    Yeah... we need some genome mapping here!

  • @Markfps
    @Markfps 26 днів тому

    Man, they really love crab

  • @Zebulization
    @Zebulization 18 днів тому

    I feel sorry for the larger crabs, it looks like death by a thousand cuts. I am not sure that the crab would be able to kill the bird any faster. I assume the occasional bird misjudges the strength or speed of a crab and gets clamped.

  • @maciejrejowski4682
    @maciejrejowski4682 11 днів тому

    So that's what happens when your spawn point gets obstructed.

  • @c7iC--s7ick
    @c7iC--s7ick 15 днів тому

    No crab is inevitable

  • @spracketskooch
    @spracketskooch 9 днів тому

    If Michael Levin's work is correct, then genes just code for proteins. The body plan is somehow stored in electrical potential across the cells of an organism. I'd be interested to see how that would impact evolution. If genes aren't all that important for a body plan, then what affects changes in body plans?

  • @mr.pringle8466
    @mr.pringle8466 12 днів тому

    Why isn't just that the same environment prompted the same results.?
    An environment so rich with food, crabs and bugs and absent of predators, they evolved as the product of that same environment.

  • @drfill9210
    @drfill9210 19 днів тому +1

    I don't mean to de- rail the conversation.... haha...
    But has anyone extracted dna from the fossil and compared it to present day birds? If not then no one can definitively say the two are different.

  • @timthompson7205
    @timthompson7205 Місяць тому

    I thought this video was about Hank beating cancer. He is a bizarre beast, just look at his hair.

  • @lynneclark5313
    @lynneclark5313 12 днів тому

    Interesting, but when the atoll sank what says the birds, tho flightless, didn't just swim to other atolls?

  • @emekon9438
    @emekon9438 15 днів тому

    Here is a rail. Aldabra kaldabra, the rail is gone. Aldabra kaldabra, rail is back