Do not hesitate to check out some more. 👇 🟡 Peavey 5150 TONEX capture: ua-cam.com/video/tlLixP39D_U/v-deo.html 🟢 Bad Cat Lynx V2 Kemper profile: ua-cam.com/video/M22d3kEOvy0/v-deo.html 🔵 Marshall 2555X Quad Cortex capture: ua-cam.com/video/E3Wn-W9bomk/v-deo.html
Dang, all of them were pretty close, but overall the best here was the Kemper. The only difference I could notice is that the gain sounds a little bit more drier than the real amp, but just by a really tiny pinch. The Quad Cortex had some resonance/bass frequencies missing. And the Tonex, although pretty damn good for it's price, was too snarly and feels a lil bit more synthetic than the other two actually. But tbh, if I wasn't aware that I'm watching a comparative video, I really couldn't tell the difference.
For me the real amp was the best. Kemper was second best, with Quad Cortex just slightly behind it in 3rd place. Tonex was my least favourite, but still good.
Yeah the tonex sounded great! I wonder if the pedal sounds different vs the pedal. Will I get a more truer tone to the capture with the pedal or using my interface 😮
The Kemper is definitely the closest, but even the Kemper misses some of the real amp characteristics. The ToneX seems to be further away, adding so much bass as if there is a lower octave...
To be honest I’m not a fan of the QC interface at all. Touch screen on a touring rig is just a big no from me. I also felt that the captures on the QC is lacking on the sub frequencies. Still the Kemper for me!
@@BagusWibisono The Kemper is not about modelling at all, with the Liquid Profiling option is a bit different now, but the Kemper is mainly about profiling an existing rig. I love it!
As usual, the modelers just don't manage to get that very important "first attack" and the dynamics right (and tight). No matter if open or palm-muted, I hear that something is missing with every modeler out there.
I've noticed that too, but the UAFX pedals nail the feel thing better than any other digital solution out there. I recently did a comparison of my ac30 and princeton to helix native, kemper, and the ua pedals. Kemper sounded the closest to my amps, but the UA pedals nailed the feel and response. The waveforms the UA pedals recorded were almost identical to the waveforms of my real amps. Crazy
I think they all pretty much sound almost the same. The tonex for the price can't be beat. I use mine through an hx effects and its just amazing. They are all pretty amazing. Technology has come a long way from my first pod. Thanks for the video. 🤘🤘
They are all good, but if we are splitting hairs I think I like the tonex or the quad cortex, then the kemper. Really at this point the modeling is good enough that you can just get the one that fits your needs best. Just the models? Tonex. All in one with effects? Quad Cortex, etc. You get the idea.
I’m also a Kemper fan, but the QC was my least fav while doing this. I miss the information in the sub frequency range. The Tonex delivers some serious low frequency response, surprisingly.
used kemper (powered rack and stage) from 2017, waiting for a small kemper but player not good for me. bought QC - love both kemper and qc, but qc smaller and lightweight.
really cool video no bs straight to the point. tonex sounds the closest to the real amp, nice tone on that amp! the main thing that I dislike is the interface of the tonex app but I think im getting one. cant be beat for the price
tonex is the overall most accurate sounding profile. both the kemper and the quad cortex add a little bump around the 100hz range (which is not unpleasant). At this point it really doesn't matter anymore....all of the profiles nowadays sound soooo close to the real amps, nobody would ever be able to tell if an amp is real or not anymore. even real amps vary in sound...
I have both a Kemper toaster and Tonex. I struggle to hear any major difference between the Kemper and the Tonex. While older, the Kemper is a much better all-in-one offering with great effects and fantastic reverb and delays. Bang for buck, the Tonex is a fantastic option if you don’t require effects. It’s a shame Kemper still don’t have a software plugin in available. It is a great Tonex feature to use profiles across software and hardware.
Same boat here. I bought the Tonex pedal out of curiosity and nominally better accuracy. Also to have some fun creating a separate pedal board with knobs to turn. When I just want to pick up a guitar and play at night, I go to my Kemper 9 times out of 10. The nice thing about purchased Kemper profiles is you get an entire rig if you want, not just the amp. I have maybe 10 go-to profiles / rigs that I've landed on, and when I just want to noodle I pick one and go.
The original mix and kemper sounded nice, while quad cortex sounded a little bit annoying to my ears, the same with TONEX but a little less. In this test definately Kemper or the real recording.
Tube amp still sounds best imho. Kemper sounds very horrible I think. Very dirty highs, like. Tube amp ist very transparent and the mids are clean and well balanced. CQ changes the attack like a single coil would sound and pollutes the broad mids. Also weird lowend compression. Tonex not very transparent, very dull and dark. CQ sounds closest to me, might purchase one. Thank you for doing this comparison!
All sound same. The difference is something you may notice and hear it in the mix. I doubt the average listener would be able to tell and could probably care less.
Sure, I will capture my amps soon, but I have a Peavey 6505+. But in Omega Diatribe my buddy uses an EVH 5150III 6L6, will see what I can do with that. 😉
0:37 real amp - guitar only 1:02 Q.C - guitar only 1:26 kemper - guitar only 1:51 Tonex - guitar only Q.C= 99.8% same. but low mid boost sound - 0.1p = total 99.7p kemper = 99.8%same. little bright and more gain. riff mute picking power -0.2p = total 99.6 TONE X= 99.5% same. riff mute picking power is good +0.1 p but, more gain - E.Q - low + mid high edge -0.1p = total 99.5 p need to adjust E.Q // winner Q.C !!!! wost TONE X All the devices doesn't have a deep range of sounds. I want to adjust the range to TONE X this is a very cheap!! Q.C. and KEMPER. The median range is close to REAL AMP [ Q.C and KEMPER have high frequency fuzz sounds that contain real emps. Very small or not heard on TONE X devices. ]
May it be interesting to catpture the preamp section of your amp , then send this capture into the power section of the amp and compare it to the real thing. I alwayz wondered if the modelers can reproduce a 3d sound cuz a capture is basicly a one placement mics. If you can for exemple use a tonex pedal in a power amp and cab and get the same satisfaction than the real thing then its huge. If not , just stick to the software version , no need of hardware.
@@GERGOHAJEROFFICIAL to be honest they all sound good on their own and in the mix, as a gigging musician they all do the job, if i am going to record an album i want the amp of course, but for touring and just gigging ..... any will do
from what i heard in this demo, the sound of the digital amps is great but it lacks the pick attack, it's not so dynamic but rather linear. it has a somewhat unstable treble. even so in the mix it goes unnoticed.
The ToneX was the closest to the real rig imo. Too much EQ difference on the Quad. The Kemper did the classic high end push, lost a little dynamic clarity and articulation, and sounded a bit muddier in the upper lows to my ears.
To my ears the Quad Cortex sounded slightly better than the Kemper in the isolated tracks, but in the mix the Kemper sounded the best by far. I didn't like the Tonex. It sounded too digital in my opinion. Great video man! Your playing and your tone in general is so good!🤘
most here until now disagree with that. I found de qc and kemper more distorted. so when it reached the tonex I thought hm, this has less gain, so I jumped back to the actual amp clip and it was quite identical to the tonex. imho.
Do not hesitate to check out some more. 👇
🟡 Peavey 5150 TONEX capture: ua-cam.com/video/tlLixP39D_U/v-deo.html
🟢 Bad Cat Lynx V2 Kemper profile: ua-cam.com/video/M22d3kEOvy0/v-deo.html
🔵 Marshall 2555X Quad Cortex capture: ua-cam.com/video/E3Wn-W9bomk/v-deo.html
They all sound pretty similar and honestly at that point it becomes more about your playing than the little difference in tone!
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That’s for sure!!!
@@robertopozo418 agreed
it becomes more about what you're *paying and UX, on stage in studio etc.
Dang, all of them were pretty close, but overall the best here was the Kemper. The only difference I could notice is that the gain sounds a little bit more drier than the real amp, but just by a really tiny pinch. The Quad Cortex had some resonance/bass frequencies missing. And the Tonex, although pretty damn good for it's price, was too snarly and feels a lil bit more synthetic than the other two actually. But tbh, if I wasn't aware that I'm watching a comparative video, I really couldn't tell the difference.
2:28 real 2:53 Q.C 3:18 Kemper 3:43 tone x - guitar sound with drum & bass
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For me the real amp was the best. Kemper was second best, with Quad Cortex just slightly behind it in 3rd place. Tonex was my least favourite, but still good.
You can’t beat the real deal for sure! But you can get exxxxtremely close with modelers nowdays.
For the price Tonex seems killer. Thank you for great comparison video!
I’m glad you like it mate! ✌🏻
Well in Dynaudios and OLLO S4X cans? Tonex had a deeper bass to my ears. The differences were very minimal though, as to be expected these days.
I felt the same with the Tonex. It also captures lower frequencies as well, comparing with the other units.
0:24 Amp
0:49 QC
1:14 Kemper
1:39 ToneX
imo, the most important thing is that they all sound great and they're spactacular tools to make music
Yeah the tonex sounded great! I wonder if the pedal sounds different vs the pedal. Will I get a more truer tone to the capture with the pedal or using my interface 😮
The software sounds exactly the same as the pedal, but it really depends on your interface too.
That riff is great! What is it? Improvised?
Thanks dude. Yeah, I just wrote this short riff for this demo. I’m glad you dig it! Maybe you should consider to check out my bands. 😈🤘🏻🔥
to my ears closest in the kemper
The Kemper is definitely the closest, but even the Kemper misses some of the real amp characteristics. The ToneX seems to be further away, adding so much bass as if there is a lower octave...
hi, in the real situation, how about you with kemper and QC? which one you prefer for sound quality, and playing feel?
To be honest I’m not a fan of the QC interface at all. Touch screen on a touring rig is just a big no from me. I also felt that the captures on the QC is lacking on the sub frequencies. Still the Kemper for me!
@@GERGOHAJEROFFICIAL how about the amps and cabs modeling on both?
@@BagusWibisono The Kemper is not about modelling at all, with the Liquid Profiling option is a bit different now, but the Kemper is mainly about profiling an existing rig. I love it!
Hey man, sounds great. Just a quick question, how do you record your cortex?
Hey, I recorded it through my audio interface’s input.
@@GERGOHAJEROFFICIAL Thanks man
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Kemper smashes them all. As per the original. Quad Cortex more mids output and don't rate the Tonex at all.
Increible riff
Thanks dude! 🤘🏻
Kemper was my fav but all sound pretty good.
It is actually!!! Kemper’s are magical!!!
kemper... best!
Tonex sounds fuzzy for some reason
As usual, the modelers just don't manage to get that very important "first attack" and the dynamics right (and tight). No matter if open or palm-muted, I hear that something is missing with every modeler out there.
Thx for your feedback! ✌
I've noticed that too, but the UAFX pedals nail the feel thing better than any other digital solution out there. I recently did a comparison of my ac30 and princeton to helix native, kemper, and the ua pedals. Kemper sounded the closest to my amps, but the UA pedals nailed the feel and response. The waveforms the UA pedals recorded were almost identical to the waveforms of my real amps. Crazy
Tonex!
It’s insanely good for the price! Tonex captured the low frequencies richer than the competitors IMO.
As a bass player I agree 100%
Tonex is the closest to the real one. Thanks for this demo!
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Tonex sounds more bass heavy/muffled, not as defined. Booooo
All of those but if I had to choose one, it's Kemper.
Thanks for the feedback mate! 🤘🏻
I think they all pretty much sound almost the same. The tonex for the price can't be beat. I use mine through an hx effects and its just amazing. They are all pretty amazing. Technology has come a long way from my first pod. Thanks for the video. 🤘🤘
Right on!! 🤘🏻
They are all good, but if we are splitting hairs I think I like the tonex or the quad cortex, then the kemper. Really at this point the modeling is good enough that you can just get the one that fits your needs best. Just the models? Tonex. All in one with effects? Quad Cortex, etc. You get the idea.
Appreciate your feedback! 🤘🏻
Kemper or the real thing! 100%! I can hear extra details on the top area, which can be worth more money than the others.
I used to be a big Kemper fanboy from 2012, but damn... the Quad Cortex is brilliant here !
I’m also a Kemper fan, but the QC was my least fav while doing this. I miss the information in the sub frequency range. The Tonex delivers some serious low frequency response, surprisingly.
used kemper (powered rack and stage) from 2017, waiting for a small kemper but player not good for me. bought QC - love both kemper and qc, but qc smaller and lightweight.
really cool video no bs straight to the point. tonex sounds the closest to the real amp, nice tone on that amp! the main thing that I dislike is the interface of the tonex app but I think im getting one. cant be beat for the price
I’m not a fan of the Tonex’s interface at all but the tone is 🔥
Im user for kemper and qc,,,for amp sim,,kemper the best
tonex is the overall most accurate sounding profile. both the kemper and the quad cortex add a little bump around the 100hz range (which is not unpleasant). At this point it really doesn't matter anymore....all of the profiles nowadays sound soooo close to the real amps, nobody would ever be able to tell if an amp is real or not anymore. even real amps vary in sound...
Right on!
I have both a Kemper toaster and Tonex. I struggle to hear any major difference between the Kemper and the Tonex. While older, the Kemper is a much better all-in-one offering with great effects and fantastic reverb and delays. Bang for buck, the Tonex is a fantastic option if you don’t require effects.
It’s a shame Kemper still don’t have a software plugin in available. It is a great Tonex feature to use profiles across software and hardware.
Same boat here. I bought the Tonex pedal out of curiosity and nominally better accuracy. Also to have some fun creating a separate pedal board with knobs to turn. When I just want to pick up a guitar and play at night, I go to my Kemper 9 times out of 10. The nice thing about purchased Kemper profiles is you get an entire rig if you want, not just the amp. I have maybe 10 go-to profiles / rigs that I've landed on, and when I just want to noodle I pick one and go.
@@sundrenched6248bro cuánto cuestan esos perfiles de kemper?
First is toneX, second quad-cortex; third kemper. Kemper more lost lows or low mids then quad cortex. And toneX is more identical. I think.
Thanks for the feedback mate!
The original mix and kemper sounded nice, while quad cortex sounded a little bit annoying to my ears, the same with TONEX but a little less. In this test definately Kemper or the real recording.
Wow ....setting the amp aside, the Tonex is a no-brainer. The Kemper was my least fav ... easily.
Tonex is just innnsane for its price man! Btw, the QC was my least fav while doing this comparison. 🤷🏻♂️
Good to know !@@GERGOHAJEROFFICIAL
The Kemper sounds amazing!!!
For sure! 😎🤘🏻
QC looks more realistic
Tube amp still sounds best imho. Kemper sounds very horrible I think. Very dirty highs, like. Tube amp ist very transparent and the mids are clean and well balanced. CQ changes the attack like a single coil would sound and pollutes the broad mids. Also weird lowend compression. Tonex not very transparent, very dull and dark. CQ sounds closest to me, might purchase one. Thank you for doing this comparison!
You can’t go wrong with the QC for sure. I’m glad if this video helps. ✌🏻
just get an axe FX III and be done with it!!!
great comparison bud
Thx Pete! 🙏🏻
tone X lack of air immediatly!
NAM should be here as well
I have to scope on NAM too, you’re right! 🧐
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All sound same. The difference is something you may notice and hear it in the mix. I doubt the average listener would be able to tell and could probably care less.
I enjoy how many ears, so many types of hearing. For example, I hear less difference in the mix.
Hi, nice comparison, tone and riffing. Have you recorded 4 unique performances or is it just one and then reamped through the rigs?
Hey,
Thanks, I’m glad you like it! I reamped the same signal through all the devices, so you hear the exact same playing with each devices.
Great video!.
Thanx! ✌🏻
Can you capture a 5150 stealth? That would be sick! Also your rectifier Z
Sure, I will capture my amps soon, but I have a Peavey 6505+. But in Omega Diatribe my buddy uses an EVH 5150III 6L6, will see what I can do with that. 😉
amp > quad cortex > tonex > kemper for sure. the tonex sounded really cool but it definitely had more break up and thickness then the actual amp did
Awesome video as always
Is it possibile ti have the quad cortex captures?
If you grab this pack it will includes the Mad Kat capture what I used in the video:
livereadysound.com/product/ndsp-qc-high-gain-1/
@@GERGOHAJEROFFICIAL I dont see a bad cat listed in this packs description. Is t in there and just not listed?
Yes, It's not listed but LRS will provide you the exact Bad Cat profile which has been used in this video.@@Georgecostanza91
@@GERGOHAJEROFFICIAL thanks man appreciate it. Just placed the order
@@Georgecostanza91 Have fun! 🎸
Tonex Capture available anywhere?
Yes Sir. Here you go.
www.tone.net/tonex/collections/live.ready.sound/mad.kat.v2
real is 3d and more character in the mix. but very close
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0:37 real amp - guitar only 1:02 Q.C - guitar only 1:26 kemper - guitar only 1:51 Tonex - guitar only Q.C= 99.8% same. but low mid boost sound - 0.1p = total 99.7p kemper = 99.8%same. little bright and more gain. riff mute picking power -0.2p = total 99.6 TONE X= 99.5% same. riff mute picking power is good +0.1 p but, more gain - E.Q - low + mid high edge -0.1p = total 99.5 p need to adjust E.Q // winner Q.C !!!! wost TONE X All the devices doesn't have a deep range of sounds. I want to adjust the range to TONE X this is a very cheap!! Q.C. and KEMPER. The median range is close to REAL AMP [ Q.C and KEMPER have high frequency fuzz sounds that contain real emps. Very small or not heard on TONE X devices. ]
May it be interesting to catpture the preamp section of your amp , then send this capture into the power section of the amp and compare it to the real thing.
I alwayz wondered if the modelers can reproduce a 3d sound cuz a capture is basicly a one placement mics.
If you can for exemple use a tonex pedal in a power amp and cab and get the same satisfaction than the real thing then its huge. If not , just stick to the software version , no need of hardware.
The difference will always be more apparent with Mono isolated tracks & not the stereo panned, double tracked guitars IMO.
Thanks for the feedback! 👍🏻
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@@GERGOHAJEROFFICIAL 😁😁😁😁😁😁
Did you used PureCabinet on the Kemper?
Turned off.
damn!
Which one do you prefer?
@@GERGOHAJEROFFICIAL to be honest they all sound good on their own and in the mix, as a gigging musician they all do the job, if i am going to record an album i want the amp of course, but for touring and just gigging ..... any will do
That's it! @@mougabo
from what i heard in this demo, the sound of the digital amps is great but it lacks the pick attack, it's not so dynamic but rather linear. it has a somewhat unstable treble. even so in the mix it goes unnoticed.
Good perception! 👍🏻
The ToneX was the closest to the real rig imo. Too much EQ difference on the Quad. The Kemper did the classic high end push, lost a little dynamic clarity and articulation, and sounded a bit muddier in the upper lows to my ears.
To my ears the Quad Cortex sounded slightly better than the Kemper in the isolated tracks, but in the mix the Kemper sounded the best by far. I didn't like the Tonex. It sounded too digital in my opinion. Great video man! Your playing and your tone in general is so good!🤘
Curiously the Tonex wasn’t the most accurate here. I’m surprised QC was the best here. I suspect Neural Amp Modeler would have crushed all those bTW😂
Thx for your feedback!
I have to scope on the Neural Amp Modeler. 🧐
most here until now disagree with that. I found de qc and kemper more distorted. so when it reached the tonex I thought hm, this has less gain, so I jumped back to the actual amp clip and it was quite identical to the tonex. imho.