DO NOT buy these NVMEs. Chinese SSD test

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  • Опубліковано 16 тра 2024
  • Do you want to save money and buy an inexpensive capacious NVMe with Ali? Do thousands of orders and five-star reviews with screenshots of high speeds inspire confidence? We checked the 4 most popular Chinese SSDs from Kingspec, Goldenfire, Klissre and Netac, compared them with brands and tell you what you can get for that kind of money, and whether you can take fast SSDs from China.
    00:00 - Introduction
    01:26 - Test of M adapters.2 on PCIE
    02:51 - Heating and radiators test
    04:57 - Controllers and memory
    07:40 - Speed tests
    10:21 - A little theory
    13:36 - Tests in real work
    16:40 - Conclusions
    #mycomputer #ssd #nvme
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  • @masfuti
    @masfuti 10 місяців тому +10

    How i've never heard about this channel? This review is so complete that i don't have any ideia of what he's talking about. I mean, until now SSD for me are all the same thing!
    Nice work man, already own a new sub.

  • @lewislane1143
    @lewislane1143 9 місяців тому +36

    You just demonstrated we should buy these drives. For the price, it did very well.

    • @blackboxsda7853
      @blackboxsda7853 16 днів тому

      They have their own use, yes. I just won't use them to store critical data.

  • @GraceMcClain
    @GraceMcClain 9 місяців тому +66

    I have multiple Netac and KingSpec NVMe and SATA M.2 drives in 3 of my machines, with not a single issue coming from any of them. Heck, my download storage drive is a 1TB Netac M.2 drive I bought 5 years ago that has out lasted 3 Samsung drives, 2 Crucial drives, and a WD drive. All M.2 drives. I would happily recommend both Kingspec and Netac, and have been doing so for many years already.

    • @jessefisher1809
      @jessefisher1809 9 місяців тому +4

      I have Netac nv7000 and its great. Its way faster than my p5 plus and trades blows with my sn850x though the sequential, and 4k random read and write is actually better on the Netac. I would definitely recommend it. The only thing I don't like is the 'warranty void if removed' sticker on the heatsink. Like its got something to hide. But I can't argue with its out of the this world performance for the price. At first I wasn't sure about reliability but I've had it for like 7 months now so I'm feeling a bit more confident.

    • @david300099
      @david300099 6 місяців тому +1

      Netac nv7000 or kingspec xg7000?? What is better?

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 6 місяців тому +2

      I put kingspec in an old netbook. It was just perfect beating the old hard disk on noise power and performance while being a low spec low cost upgrade. It was 7 or 8 years ago. Major manufacturers simply weren't willing to build something as cheap as a dramless 32gb SSD which would end up selling for $12, their overhead costs are too high.

    • @arturbaltazar2526
      @arturbaltazar2526 5 місяців тому +1

      Using both netac and Kingspec in my pc, no issues.
      Price quality is incredible.
      I also use netac 32 GB DDR 4 ram.

    • @SethOmegaful
      @SethOmegaful 4 місяці тому +3

      Same. I got netac 3000 for my pci3.0 board and its great until now. I bought it with really low durability expectations and its all great for a long time. No regrets.

  • @timecentral3134
    @timecentral3134 9 місяців тому +3

    The "pyrometer" at 3:23 is held too far away from the drive to give an accurate reading. The area thermally measured is shaped like a cone and the further away the pyrometer is from the object, the larger the measurement area is. (The red dot is just for aiming, but does actually do any measuring)

  • @ardithconley2628
    @ardithconley2628 10 місяців тому +8

    Sometimes those adaptors may not work as fast as you think. Due to the 2nd m.2 slot of a MSI mother board when used cuts off the the 2nd 15 video slot. That makes that slot go bye bye. If you buy an adaptor for that 16 slot buy one that holds more than one m.2 slot on it and do not use the 2nd slot on the motherboard. Check all that stuff out. In most cases it does not matter. You may get at best 4x2 from them. Still way faster than SATA. With any SSD buy use the ones with DRAM.

  • @eranddroory9987
    @eranddroory9987 Рік тому +13

    Awesome work guys. Thanks - staying clear of these cheap brands..

  • @DavidCoutinhoCG
    @DavidCoutinhoCG 9 місяців тому +4

    I do use Netac M.2 SSDs and Netac DDR4 RAM Sticks, never had a problem with it.

  • @Potato-qh2xl
    @Potato-qh2xl 9 місяців тому +107

    The video is great and helps everyone avoid inferior products, but as a Chinese, I think it needs to be emphasized that not all SSDs from China are inferior. Almost all of the ssds
    in this video are trash. If you want to purchase SSDs from Chinese brands, the following are the brands that can be purchased: ZHITAI, Acer, aigo, fanxiang. Nowadays, the price of SSD has significantly decreased. If you are willing to investigate, you will find that a large part of this is attributed to Yangtze Memory (the parent company of Zhitai), which has developed an advanced xtacking architecture and won a reputation for its high-speed and high-quality performance.

    • @PavelShevchuk
      @PavelShevchuk 9 місяців тому +15

      "Good" chinese products cost as much as brand name parts, but usually have no retail presence in EU to fulfill two year warranty. There's also a cultural rift between chinese and western quality expectations, product naming and marketing, most chinese brands are unwilling to adapt for.

    • @24kmetal99
      @24kmetal99 8 місяців тому +7

      @@PavelShevchuk Asus, MSI...are all Chinese brand, of course it costs as much as brand name parts, it is brand name parts. Cultural rift? These are small companies, what do you expect? You are buying from China directly, now you're comparing a small local company with international brands? LOL

    • @PavelShevchuk
      @PavelShevchuk 8 місяців тому +20

      @@24kmetal99 ASUS and MSI are Taiwanese

    • @24kmetal99
      @24kmetal99 8 місяців тому +13

      @@PavelShevchuk It's like saying Californian is not American lol.

    • @24kmetal99
      @24kmetal99 8 місяців тому +4

      @@PavelShevchuk I'm Taiwanese Chinese by the way.

  • @kansax8253
    @kansax8253 10 місяців тому +9

    The Goldenfir having the best Crystal Disk Mark random reads is pretty interesting. Was that an outlier, or did it consistently beat the other NVME drives?

    • @cabal123123123
      @cabal123123123 6 місяців тому +4

      Been using Goldenfir SSD and surprisingly still alive, longer than my other Patriot Burst SSD did, I can say that brand is trustable

  • @frenchieman971
    @frenchieman971 7 місяців тому

    Thank you for your work, very precise and professional. I have subbed.

  • @WaschyNumber1
    @WaschyNumber1 9 місяців тому +1

    Is ther a tip for a good budget nvme or 2.5" ssd that don't need to be faster than about 600MB/s only reliability is important and low power consumption.

  • @Ray-uc8ij
    @Ray-uc8ij Рік тому +61

    With this stuff you get what you pay for. They definitely have their use cases for a lot of people who are not writing gigabytes of data all at once. The MSI drive certainly seemed reasonable even with the dropped speeds. If you really wanted to test the quality you should have written to them until the drives died and record the MTBF. You should never trust any drive with your data no matter how expensive it is. Backup is key to at least one other drive, but ideally you want to back up to two other secondary drives in case the primary drive fails.

    • @blue-xb1cq
      @blue-xb1cq 10 місяців тому +6

      you get what you paid for with Apple computers/phones?

    • @Ray-uc8ij
      @Ray-uc8ij 10 місяців тому +12

      @@blue-xb1cq With apple your buying lifestyle and eco system more than quality. Still nice stuff, but way over priced.

    • @LucasOhaiFilgueiras
      @LucasOhaiFilgueiras 9 місяців тому

      @@blue-xb1cq your question is dumb and shows that you don't understand what he said.

    • @KlodFather
      @KlodFather 2 місяці тому

      @@Ray-uc8ij - Apple is for people with more money than brains. :)

    • @eduram
      @eduram 6 днів тому +1

      Data on System drive, backup on games drive, backup on cloud and finally a shitty usb 2.0 of 64gb has the most important.

  • @filipbunalti
    @filipbunalti 10 місяців тому +84

    I use a 2TB "Fanxiang" drive I picked for 55 USD for games. While the write speed is impacted when the drive is full, the read speed and responsiveness is still extremely good. And as you said, the 100 MB/s limitation doesn't matter even when downloading games on a fast connection. And also, games aren't very precious because I can just re-download them from steam. In conclusion, I think these are good drives for games, bad for data or actual productivity work that requires a lot of write operations.

    • @thorgrim1074
      @thorgrim1074 10 місяців тому +20

      fanxiang is actually really good, I don't have the m.2 but the sata one, and it holds up well against my western digital.

    • @Drewtheelder
      @Drewtheelder 10 місяців тому +6

      I have the same drive, it cost £60 from amazon and it's where I install my Steam games, it works perfectly fine alongside a fast WD black boot drive.

    • @warrobots1warrobots135
      @warrobots1warrobots135 10 місяців тому

      M.2 ?
      Because it's maybe like 70$~ for the M.2 speed of 7450mb\s

    • @filipbunalti
      @filipbunalti 10 місяців тому +4

      @@warrobots1warrobots135 Yes M.2 NVMe drive. Mine is rated at 5GB/s. I see the 7.5GB/s models for $70 too, but I don't expect any meaningful performance difference for my use case (games).

    • @kevinmagsy0312
      @kevinmagsy0312 9 місяців тому +4

      Patriot is not a chinese fake broo.. its been around year 2010, they were just not famouse along years

  • @kid_5679
    @kid_5679 9 місяців тому +6

    im using chinese NVme's since 2018 and its still working all of them.🙃

  • @TheColonelJJ
    @TheColonelJJ 4 місяці тому

    Wow! Thanks! So much more than a simple comparison. I really learned a lot from you here today!

  • @hssssssssssss
    @hssssssssssss Рік тому +1

    Thank you for the voice over. Interesting video

  • @juanete69
    @juanete69 6 місяців тому

    Hello.
    What about the brand Fanxiang? I have just bought the S790 NVME disk.

  • @adsuper9185
    @adsuper9185 11 місяців тому +38

    You introduced some brands or models in some brands that Chinese people will not buy, Tiplus7100 2t $114. Predator GM7 2t $70. Kingston Kc3000 2t $112. aigo p7000z 2t $79. They are all pcie4.0. These are the better products sold in China's 618 shopping festival this year.

    • @user-dh7rl8eu8f
      @user-dh7rl8eu8f 10 місяців тому +6

      This is one of few reviews in the last two years and not for popular Chinese brands. It is surprising to see a lack of SSD reviews on UA-cam despite the increased production of SSDs from China. However, the price drop of established brands indicates the positive impact of new manufacturers. These changes have brought significant benefits to consumers, especially the Chinese. Hopefully, in the future, some manufacturers can also compete with NV in GPU manufacturing, allowing for more reasonable pricing reminiscent of the 2010s.

    • @gordo_homemlivre1909
      @gordo_homemlivre1909 9 місяців тому +5

      ​@gapo-jx9nm You look like a bot 😂

    • @Jeffnvz
      @Jeffnvz 9 місяців тому

      @@gordo_homemlivre1909 If you ever try Zhitai 7100 plus, you'll understand what is made in China.

    • @shib5267
      @shib5267 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@gapo-jx9nmChina numba one 🇨🇳!!!

  • @shodan6401
    @shodan6401 6 місяців тому +2

    Mikhail, this is a great video. Thank you for making it in English. Much important information is exposed here. Well done.

  • @WaschyNumber1
    @WaschyNumber1 9 місяців тому

    Ssd gen 4 are not recommended without extra cooling, beside ssd loosing data with temperature rises also.

  • @Jandejongjong
    @Jandejongjong 10 місяців тому +28

    I got the KingSpec and use it to game on as external drive. Works perfectly!
    Usb 3.0 500mB/s

    • @user-qn1yi5cw6r
      @user-qn1yi5cw6r 3 місяці тому +1

      I got a kingspec xg7000 series and it was defective apon arrival. Didn't even work

    • @user-qn1yi5cw6r
      @user-qn1yi5cw6r 3 місяці тому

      1:40 it says my M.2 is supposed to be Nvme but looking at this shows me it's a SATA

  • @themadatheist1976
    @themadatheist1976 7 місяців тому

    I was looking to get a MSI 461 4TB drive to use as my game drive in my laptop. Should be OK once I dump my 2TB of games to it and future games won't need blazing speeds downloading from the web.

  • @hydrorp3099
    @hydrorp3099 Рік тому

    Which program do you use to read out that layer and chip specs?

  • @Zaki-zg5lt
    @Zaki-zg5lt 5 місяців тому

    What do you think of lexar ares 1tb ? I got it and I think it's pretty decent

  • @JohnnyOrgan
    @JohnnyOrgan 11 місяців тому +82

    As a guy who has built a good few PCs over the past 8 years for friends and family....I've found that Patriot, PNY, Kingston and Crucial are very reliable budget drives with good durability, real time speeds and compatibilty for multiple mobos (estimated builds @100 and mostly AMD CPUs admittedly from my experience). I usually go with whatever is on sale/best price at the time and have no hesitations recommending them. Great bang for buck. Especially if upgrading a laptop or older PC from a HDD. (I've had laptops with M.2s sitting empty).
    Believe it or not, Western Digital and Seagate drives have been less reliable/warranty breakers at times. Personally, I've had a 1TB WD and a 2TB HDD in my systems for 13 years with zero issues and still looking "Good" with CrystalMark.
    This has been very informative about other cheap SSDs and pretty much what I expected. Apart from that fake Kingspin drive. Waow. What a minger.
    I'm vouching for Patriot drives lasting at least 3 years with no issues reported back.
    As I said, good bang for buck real life performance and no reliability issues compared to the others...
    MSI looks a good option too
    My 2 cents.

    • @wshyangify
      @wshyangify 11 місяців тому +1

      Wait, PNY better than WD?

    • @sephroth201
      @sephroth201 10 місяців тому

      If i want to do heavy gaming like cyberpunk 2077 on max, should I cheap out on SSD and get a patriot? Will it matter much?

    • @JohnnyOrgan
      @JohnnyOrgan 10 місяців тому

      @@sephroth201 If you're getting 1tb for about £40, go for it

    • @Vysair
      @Vysair 10 місяців тому +5

      Team Group too iirc

    • @eleventy-seven
      @eleventy-seven 10 місяців тому +1

      Sabrent is great also Samsung but they have occasionally had issues.

  • @figadodeporco
    @figadodeporco Рік тому +58

    I use kingspec ssds, (nvme for 3 years and m2 pcie for 5 years) and never had a problem. they work great and it's price is very affordable.

    • @DarknoorX
      @DarknoorX Рік тому +9

      They and goldenfir are not half bad. Not the fastest, but work well for the paid amount.

    • @maxoryxyt
      @maxoryxyt 10 місяців тому +4

      Hi i read some reviews that they removed data when full

    • @zalankhan5743
      @zalankhan5743 9 місяців тому +1

      Hi I want to buy a kingspec NVME just for gaming storage. Is it great for that.

    • @figadodeporco
      @figadodeporco 9 місяців тому

      @@zalankhan5743 i think so

    • @scorkmc
      @scorkmc 9 місяців тому

      ​@@zalankhan5743 maybe go for a more reputable company or more local to you, so if something goes wrong you can maybe use warranty or something

  • @brankoburgic8013
    @brankoburgic8013 2 місяці тому

    What software did you use to detect NVME controller and type (QLC,TLC...)

  • @jessefisher1809
    @jessefisher1809 9 місяців тому +2

    I have a Netac ssd, the nv7000, the higher end version. Its actually great. And faster than my p5 plus, and trades blows with my sn850x, and it comes with a heatsink.

  • @prashanthb6521
    @prashanthb6521 10 місяців тому

    This was excellent demonstration. Very informative, Thanks a lot.

  • @belnels
    @belnels 10 місяців тому +7

    From 2021 to 2023 on my personal computer I have a 256 GB Nvme Netac NV2000 and to date it has 8 TB Written and 95% Life Remaining.
    On the other hand, from January 2023 to date, 7 months on my mother's computer has a Nvme Adata Legend 700, it has 5 TB Written and 92% remaining life
    I recommend NETAC 1001%👍👍👍

  • @WARRIOR-rh8hc
    @WARRIOR-rh8hc 8 місяців тому

    What about SK hynix SSD Nvme? is it good SSD brand ?

  • @acetechnical6574
    @acetechnical6574 5 місяців тому +1

    I got a Chinese M.2 (gen 4 allegedly) from Amazon for my daughters first build over black friday. On an MSI Z590 Pro, It heats up north of 75° fast while also only hitting about 1200 MB/s with the stock BS sticker "heatspreader", but with a reasonably decent passive heatsink, it hits 3 GB/s pretty well.
    Overall, everything I have experienced with SSDs of sata and M.2 variety, since 2014, strongly suggests two things - Silicon Power is the best company overall, and if you want real performance, WD or Samsung are your options.
    I am old, so it gives me a combo of righteous satisfaction, and a strange sense of meloncholy, that Seagate is no longer in the discussion.

  • @Absalon68
    @Absalon68 6 місяців тому

    Thanks. That was a nice description of why, how, and because.

  • @andrebalsa203
    @andrebalsa203 Рік тому

    Great review and very useful information, thank you very much !

  • @user-kp2hk2lh2x
    @user-kp2hk2lh2x 8 місяців тому

    Hi
    i found kioxia G2 SSD for 1750k in my country and sn570 is 2150k
    now i have some question
    i had some bad experience with budget nvme drives like nm620, c710 , s68 .. all of these had dropping down speed issue when using more than 30~50% usage of capacity ...
    addlink s68 drop down to 20mb/s which is terrible
    i was more happy which my HDD compare that
    now the real question is kioxia G2 good in this case ?
    doesn't have drop down speed issue when drive is full ?
    not G2 plus only G2 ..
    i want to order this drive today ! just today so tell me honestly i don't wanna lose money agian .
    thx

    • @midknight2K
      @midknight2K 3 місяці тому

      Hi, Kioxia acquired Toshiba as such they should know how a ssd should run like. but research on most drives should be done before buying them.

    • @user-kp2hk2lh2x
      @user-kp2hk2lh2x 3 місяці тому

      @@midknight2K bought 4 month ago .. its a fine ssd but heat up quickly up to 80c but i think it showing controller temperature .

  • @a.k.computerspune9330
    @a.k.computerspune9330 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you so much for in depth technical analysis. Appreciate your technical expertise. I am into data recovery business. Can you pls. suggest a highly reliable chipset and enclosure casing ( both pci express adapter card with form factor and USB casing make etc ) for diagnostics and recovery. Thanks again. Keep it up. My best Wishes👌👍😊
    .

    • @a.k.computerspune9330
      @a.k.computerspune9330 9 місяців тому

      @@lurch789 Thanks a lot lurch for quick support. Appreciate Your time & efforts.
      Is there anyway to know which internal chipset is best technically from JMICRON JM5583 ,Realteck & Asmedia ASM2362 etc
      Thanks again

  • @godfreybay735
    @godfreybay735 6 місяців тому +4

    I had no issue using Kingspec NVme2 1 TB.

  • @NonLegitNation2
    @NonLegitNation2 9 місяців тому

    I've been considering buying a Levan m.2 nvme drive for a couple months now but haven't pulled the trigger yet since I've never heard of the company.

  • @caliber-ce7668
    @caliber-ce7668 8 місяців тому

    What should i buy for my msi gp66 laptop. Do i buy a 980pro or something else?
    Im trying to look up if the samsung heatsink 980pro version will fit but i cant find any good info…can i fit a heatsink in my laptop is also a guestion

    • @SEREGAFOX1
      @SEREGAFOX1 8 місяців тому

      Hynix p31, p41 😊

  • @mariodasilva8729
    @mariodasilva8729 9 місяців тому

    Great advices e, with good proof!

  • @anthonyblacker8471
    @anthonyblacker8471 4 місяці тому

    Nice job.. I'm looking to put a new nvme drive in as my system drive, I've moved to a pcie gen 4 motherboard and my C drive is only 256gb (system only) but it's almost half full and I'm ready to upgrade. I wasn't planning on cheap junk from ali express however a LOT of the lower priced drives use the same older controllers and are tls or slc memory, I'm not interested in those drives. I prefer a dram cache for my system drive and will probably just bite the bullet and use a Samsung or Sabrent Rocket..

  • @user-ej4yu5ce4o
    @user-ej4yu5ce4o 3 місяці тому +1

    Does a full drive only affect the write speeds? Or does it also slow down the read speeds if the drive is full?

    • @mttrashcan-bg1ro
      @mttrashcan-bg1ro 2 місяці тому

      I'm not sure how to answer that question, but an SSD should NEVER be full or even in the red zone. It doesn't just rewrite data anywhere as it has to rewrite whole blocks which means if it's full and has to rewrite a tiny bit of data to a block it need to write over the whole block which means that new data goes over old data. This has caused my sister's PC to end up with a corrupt Windows 10 install because she left it in red for months. HDDs technically should be red either, there's a reason it's red, but SSDs just straight up should NOT touch the red zone or major problems can occur.

  • @genjitsu7448
    @genjitsu7448 10 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for looking into these options - as suspected there is no free lunch! It is just not worth it if your data is important to you. Plus if you really need lots of storage even though it is not as cool and modern you can get massive multi TB storage for really cheap now adays with "Old fashioned" HDD's. However take a look at what I just saw on Google -- a Samsung 970 Evo 1tb NVME for $55. Why take chances? Then you can get a nice external case for about $20 and you are good or you can mount it internally if you have the connections to do so.
    If you need more storage then that you can go for very reliable HDD's which will store your data safely and at the best possible price. Good brands like Toshiba, WD, Seagate, Samsung are all in a similar price range so just shop around and see what you can find. And if you have a PC then heck just get the HDD's as you have the space and the room.
    I will say that this video was a bit over my head with the terms, features, nomenclature, etc... but it was great to see it and to try and learn a bit about what is really going on. Well done, I got a lot out of it. Cheers

    • @plasticdope
      @plasticdope 7 місяців тому +1

      Do you know that the 970 has a flawed built? Just search EVO 970 issue. I personally bought 2 of them, one dead on arrival, one died after installed Windows and restarted the first time.
      That’s the reason why the Evo 860 is still more expensive with a similar storage size until today.

    • @genjitsu7448
      @genjitsu7448 7 місяців тому

      @@plasticdope Did not know that, thanks. My latest nvme is a 2TB WD Black, I hope that was a good choice!

  • @marcomoraschi3537
    @marcomoraschi3537 5 місяців тому

    Nice and very informative vid. Good job

  • @Dany-ft3xc
    @Dany-ft3xc 6 місяців тому

    hi, is Netac the best?

  • @stanislasflipo7214
    @stanislasflipo7214 5 місяців тому

    Was about to buy a kingspec to do backups thinking it would save time over my HDD. Thank you for saving my money

  • @aperson1181
    @aperson1181 2 місяці тому

    do you have a link to your other language channel?

  • @arcaderacer586
    @arcaderacer586 Рік тому +55

    Day to day users will not notice any performance loss
    With cheaper ssd’s typically. The only people it will matter to are benchmarkers for the most part.

    • @rodrigosierpe5995
      @rodrigosierpe5995 Рік тому +8

      Not precisely. If it's for some test machine, with a disposable Os install, sure, nothing really matters, but if it's even close to a production machine or daily driver, or even a media player machine, then you WILL notice

    • @amistrophy
      @amistrophy Рік тому +12

      Confidently incorrect

    • @arcaderacer586
      @arcaderacer586 Рік тому +1

      @@amistrophy well it also will decrease some performance when the drive gets almost full but other than that the differences is a second here 3 seconds there….

    • @arcaderacer586
      @arcaderacer586 Рік тому +2

      @@rodrigosierpe5995 cant argue with the power benchmarkers LOL

    • @patg108
      @patg108 Рік тому +3

      @@rodrigosierpe5995 probably still better than a 7200 rpm sata 3.0 mechanical drive though seeing as that theoretical limit is 600 Mb/sec

  • @jasonyu8020
    @jasonyu8020 9 місяців тому +151

    MSI is Taiwan brand...not china.

  • @freestinje
    @freestinje 10 місяців тому

    How about putting it in an external exclosure?

  • @pham3383
    @pham3383 Рік тому +8

    patroit is from phison,quite well known ssd controller maker

    • @imgonnacream
      @imgonnacream Рік тому

      Linus has tested many ssds and he says you can't tell the difference in boot speed, exe open time, and average user file transferring at gen 3 vs gen 4 and gen 5 speeds I also cannot tell the difference between my fast and slow ssd.

  • @sneakycactus8815
    @sneakycactus8815 Рік тому +1

    oblivion music in the background haha i love it

  • @vannhantran547
    @vannhantran547 9 місяців тому +1

    Only MSI and Netac's ssd seems quite decent so that's why imma go for Samsung P9m1a

  • @Nick-rk2tp
    @Nick-rk2tp Рік тому +4

    I appreciate your videos especially on overlooked items like these, as I have never seen Chinese brand SSD tests before.

  • @alfblack2
    @alfblack2 9 місяців тому

    thank for for doing these tests.

  • @poland_stronk3044
    @poland_stronk3044 3 місяці тому

    Is Kioxia EXCERIA G2 1TB ok or is it junk too?

  • @Alan_Skywalker
    @Alan_Skywalker 11 місяців тому +8

    The biggest problem is, when all the data was written into SLC cache and not TLC main region, does it really count as complete? The GC algorithm will continue moving the data, any unexpected scenarios like power loss will corrupt the data.The SSD will be in higher load than simple TLC write-through, or pause the write-back if there's other instructions coming in. This write-back process is in background, there will not be an indicator telling you when it will complete.
    If the data is not secured in the drive, can we say the data transfer is complete?

    • @FlyingFun.
      @FlyingFun. 6 місяців тому

      I am just getting into nvme drives and trying to understand it all, and this is a question I have in my mind , I would hope that it takes care of the problem by NOT erasing the data its copying until it has confirmed the data has been written?

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 6 місяців тому

      This shouldn't be true. Data in SLC cache is non volatile. If power is lost, the drive can just continue GC where it left off when the power is restored. Back in the day you could corrupt a Sandforce but a Marvel drive would manage guaranteed. SLC caches are much older than TLC drives, it starts with MLC. On well made drives even RAM was guaranteed to be successfully flushed into SLC on the drive while on drive's internal hold up capacitor, but on less well made ones well that's a possible failure point.
      I think today HBM may be throwing a wrench into the works, where the drive may still be operational, but the host memory that it's trying to use is suffering progressive corruption during brown out phase of power loss. Of course corruption of internal data structures is a very bad thing. They should handle it somehow but do they? That is the question.

    • @Alan_Skywalker
      @Alan_Skywalker 6 місяців тому

      ​@@SianaGearz @nigeltelevet Of course SLC area is non-violate, but you are missing the point here. What's usually went wrong is the FTL, which translates the physical addresses to the logical adresses which the FS and OS can directly access. If this table isn't saved correctly, the data on the NAND no longer matters as the controller can't find it, or even look for the wrong address.
      And since the data is still transfering from SLC to TLC, and the disk is rearranging the FTL, and which space is using as SLC cache, if this process was interrupted, the data in transfer, the old data from the operating cells, even old data elsewhere, may still be corrupted. In my opinion, as long as the contents in the disk are actually changing, and stopping this process will damage the data in some ways, the data should still be counted as "in flight", thus it's improper to say the data transfer is "complete".
      And yes, SLC cache did start with MLC, the earliest OCZ drives using this technique are notoriously bad in term of fail rates(although bad quality flash chips also plays a part). Although this technique is vastly improved nowadays, till this day, it's rarely used on Enterprise, DC or industrial class drives, where PLP actually exists, and where data is actually valued.

    • @Alan_Skywalker
      @Alan_Skywalker 6 місяців тому

      @@SianaGearz I may not have understood the HBM you're talking about, are those the DRAM chips used on server CPUs an GPUs?

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 6 місяців тому

      @@Alan_Skywalker I mistyped I meant HMB.
      Host memory buffer. The system BIOS can dedicate an amount of CPU RAM that the SSD can just access via PCI Bus Master as if it's on the SSD to use for management data or cache. DRAMless NVMe SSD make heavy use of this feature to be at all viable.

  • @pennyhardaway7491
    @pennyhardaway7491 Рік тому +1

    Do Chinese SSD destructive test, so continuous writing until failure.

  • @SeppyYT
    @SeppyYT 10 місяців тому

    what about using these NVME SSDs for Office Purposes? Performance for Excel, Word, MS Teams should not be so important for those applications?

  • @olekj32
    @olekj32 4 місяці тому

    Guys. What's the name of a program U use at 7:05?

  • @khalifa1942
    @khalifa1942 3 місяці тому

    hi what about 990 pro 4tb 7500mb its reliable !? need answer plz thank you

  • @WaschyNumber1
    @WaschyNumber1 9 місяців тому

    Are not Samsung and sandisc and Western Digital the only ones that produce the hole storages like ssd nvme by ther own. 🤔 The controller and chips ect.

  • @edtam6
    @edtam6 8 місяців тому

    Your cactus need more sun, do you can buy led grow lights, if the sun exposure is insufficient.

  • @DirekEchoTVi327
    @DirekEchoTVi327 Місяць тому

    this can be use to MacBook?

  • @Totschlagen1799
    @Totschlagen1799 2 місяці тому

    Which MSI model M371 and M461?

  • @zangetsu6638
    @zangetsu6638 Місяць тому

    YOOO! can you do another test of the cheap Chinese drives again, but now with bigger sizes? like 1TB or 2TB?

  • @unityimport
    @unityimport 9 місяців тому

    Eu pesquisei diversas marcas, mas, todas apresentam defeitos, param de funcionar antes de 1 ano. Na minha opinião restou Samsung Pro e Wester Digital Pro, e talvez essa MSI apresentada em teu vídeo. Logo, resolvi ir de WD B SN770. Mas, pelo que entendi, e li nos comentários, o NETAC parece estar abaixo do MSI.

  • @alteans
    @alteans 6 місяців тому

    That is exactly I'm afraid of..decent memory chips with crappy controllers..just got a NETAC 3D NAND SSD \N530S and haven't tested it yet, supposed to change the mobo before I install a WIN 10 ltsc on it, and I haven't decided which version 🙄..thnx for the review

  • @ronch550
    @ronch550 6 місяців тому +1

    If i were buying an SSD for PS5 I'd love to try brands like Kingspec and Netac. A 2TB PCIe 4x4 SSD can be had for less than $100.

  • @chunkynugget
    @chunkynugget 9 місяців тому

    The best part is that Patriot is a pretty famous brand.

  • @lgmnowkondo938
    @lgmnowkondo938 7 місяців тому +1

    if I use one of these to store data...then slower is just fine with me. The question then becomes, will they break?

    • @FlyingFun.
      @FlyingFun. 6 місяців тому

      yep, this is the only question that bothers me, I can stand a slightly slower driive but do not want to lose my data.

  • @ottopuppy
    @ottopuppy 5 місяців тому

    I bought a Firecuda years ago and it works great.

  • @user-pq8lz3ip3q
    @user-pq8lz3ip3q 9 місяців тому

    I recommend Zhitai Plus 7100 1T / 2T 100+ usd for 2T version.

  • @alekseiiudin2874
    @alekseiiudin2874 2 місяці тому

    Спасибо..... но можно ли увидеть ссылку в комментариях на оригинальную озвучку ?

  • @Xerox482
    @Xerox482 10 місяців тому

    i have Netac 3000 bought it for 29$ in sale 500 GB, also there is another brand LEXAR which i use it seems good too .

  • @yacineberroussi7810
    @yacineberroussi7810 5 місяців тому

    This was magnificent review bro thnx

  • @chansaechao79
    @chansaechao79 6 місяців тому +1

    I play lots of video games and don't do any 4k video editing so any of the cheap nvme drives with higher capacity are plenty fast enough.

  • @redzeroiceman9297
    @redzeroiceman9297 5 місяців тому

    make video for which drives to buy

  • @CaleMcCollough
    @CaleMcCollough Рік тому +1

    Excellent review. Very technical and detailed.

  • @rastanz
    @rastanz 4 місяці тому

    I'm very picky to what I install and usually go for my go to brands of which have been reliable for me over the decades of building PC's. Been using Samsung NVMe and SSD drives since their debut and haven't had any die on me before running out of storage space. I rarely depend on review videos as a legitimate source as they're based on the reviewers setup and personal configuration and not my own personalized system.
    In saying that, this was an interesting watch.

  • @hazinessbyebye6714
    @hazinessbyebye6714 Рік тому +10

    seems like you purchased craps priced below 50usd. and that products are craps of the craps as the prices tells you. btw, chinese netac ssd named encompassing ymtc 128layer nand is not cheap and performs great.

    • @deanjean5255
      @deanjean5255 11 місяців тому +1

      I also doubts that why he didn't test main stream chinese brand? Kingspec(金胜维), Goldenfire(?), Klissre(金胜) or Netac(朗科)are not recommended even at china website.

    • @maguro-_-otoro
      @maguro-_-otoro 11 місяців тому

      Exactly! I shop at Taobao & JD for SSDs all the time I hardly ever see these brands. Kingspec is on the domestic market but hardly anyone recommends them. Everyone goes for Zhitai 致态 if budget permits or the Fanxiang with YMTC+MAXIO combination. A reviewer on bilibili has written 3000TB on his 1TB Zhitai Tiplus 7100 and its still going strong.

  • @IvanOoze1990
    @IvanOoze1990 6 місяців тому

    I bought a Goldenfir sata ssd for my mothers laptop, the thing stopped being detected after a few months.

  • @peterkrutow8561
    @peterkrutow8561 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks!

  • @darthwiizius
    @darthwiizius 9 місяців тому

    Just buy decent drives to start with I reckon. I've got an HDD, 2 SATAs and an NVMe for the system, a WD Black, a Crucial and 2 Samsung. The WD Black has worked flawlessly for 9 years and the Sam NVMe for 4 so far, the 2 SATAs are newer so I can't judge durability yet.

  • @michaelsoutherland3023
    @michaelsoutherland3023 9 місяців тому

    MSI seems to be a rebranded PNY CS2140 used in my notebook/laptop with a Gen 3 slot.

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 6 місяців тому +1

      They're probably reference design products made according to the controller chip manufacturer example. But yeah Taiwanese companies often co-manufacture PCBs for each other as well, they commission the same pool of suppliers.

    • @michaelsoutherland3023
      @michaelsoutherland3023 6 місяців тому +1

      @@SianaGearz Now that I have used it a while, I think the PNY CS2140 is ideal for a light laptop. In a Gen 3 slot it competes with a WD Black 770 as it's like the newer WD Blue 580. I initially expected it to be rather unremarkable.

  • @slowpoke3102
    @slowpoke3102 4 місяці тому

    Can we please look at your last list, cannot see with a maagnifier?

  • @modriotgaming
    @modriotgaming 5 місяців тому

    Those Netac nvmes look to be perfectly acceptable as a 'games' install drive according to the published stats. Would i trust it with important data? Probably not, but gamefiles are easy enough to redownload off steam if the drive were ever to go kaput. Tempted to go pick one up as soon as i finish this video.

  • @Baphangelus
    @Baphangelus Рік тому +1

    Hi, can you poste the normal ssd tests please

  • @enioochs7520
    @enioochs7520 11 місяців тому +6

    Please Test Reletech p600

    • @PleaseGetReal
      @PleaseGetReal 7 місяців тому +1

      Just bought one myself...
      I used Kingspec 2242 M2 NVME SSD. I have no problem with it.

  • @seriksson9721
    @seriksson9721 9 місяців тому

    All help is needed in the computer jungle. Thanks

  • @mrlk665
    @mrlk665 Рік тому +1

    THANK YOU FOR YOUR INVESTIGATION

  • @user-fp3by2rc5c
    @user-fp3by2rc5c 10 місяців тому

    absolutely brilliant!!!

  • @AAP-Channel
    @AAP-Channel 3 місяці тому

    Interesting to see the review of european brands performances and prices

  • @snausages43
    @snausages43 7 місяців тому

    Newegg has a 4TB KingSpec for a good deal, but then I saw it ships from China and was immediately skeptical.

  • @TheRtesti
    @TheRtesti Місяць тому

    Muito bom seu vídeo, amigo!
    Aqui no Brasil nós também consumimos esses produtos/marcas.
    Deu pra ter bons parâmetros sobre eles.
    Sucesso ao canal!
    🇧🇷

  • @aaronselby1761
    @aaronselby1761 9 місяців тому

    :20 Had to pause the video to see if I was playing Oblivion music on another tab :P

  • @gabest4
    @gabest4 7 місяців тому

    I know they are trash but I cannot resist the price. I got lucky with a 2tb walram, it had hynix tlc chips. But then ran into that ymtc qlc nand on Kingfast, also 2TB. It's gambling. For a boot disk, always buy the better one, with dram.

  • @RideTheSkies
    @RideTheSkies 2 місяці тому

    Well, the prices have separated quite a bit now with actual reputable brand prices being pretty high now

  • @dodgydruid
    @dodgydruid 10 місяців тому

    Is that an Akula I spy on the shelf there? This week I just acquired for my huge Soviet watch collection a brass Zlatoust deep sea divers watch, the Soviet submariner's friend, half a pound of solid brass with 4mm plate glass and on its original tropicalised rubber strap too :)

  • @charlesswenson259
    @charlesswenson259 Рік тому

    I truly love this content. How can I find out more about these guys who make these videos?