Watch this before buying a DSLR gimbal - Feiyu-tech AK4500 review
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- Опубліковано 3 вер 2019
- Subscribe HERE: goo.gl/yvPYaV --- Hey guys! Finally, here is the new feiyutech ak4500 review! I tried it out for a few weeks to give you my thoughts, hands on and tips & tricks about this gimbal for BIG dslr and mirrorless. I come from a DJI ronin s, so it's a little comparison but yes, I finally moved to gimbals after all these years :)
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Honestly, another banger.. Like the editing bro, sooo well done, you deserve way more credit for that 🙌🏻 keep the grind going 🔥
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Incredible review. Thank you. Just a small question. What mount are you using to mount your monitor? I'd love to get the exact one with the correct threads.
I have had 2 Feiyutech gimbals ... both for about 18 months. One works, an a2000, and an SPG phone gimbal. The SPG stopped working this month after using it 10-15 times. I think Feiyutech suffers from same thing most Chinese gear manufacturers do, lack of QC in the entire supply and manufacturing process. And their APP sucks. I might consider another of their gimbals after the product matures more. Good review and nice work on your video
I like the extension handle. At the moment it works flawlessly!
Awesome!! Good luck with the shoots & stay safe :))
I saw the quick release plate, it looks great, i need save much time when i am shooting.
It's a HUGE timesaver!!
Thank you for a very honest review. I just got mine and just watching a few videos before I launch it. I did have a tough time mounting the arm for the remote/2nd handle - for some reason the holes did not match up quite right - I was worried I was going to strip the knob screw... we will see if I did when I remove it :O
Hey there! You mean the 2 screws to mount it to the gimbal? Or the 1 screw that mounts the remote to the arm?
The trick with the 2 screws is to get one in, turn it loosely in (dont tighten).
That gives you enough room still to get the other in ;) ones both are in, tighten!
(Yes I know this all sounds pretty double haha 😅)
Yep - I did get them in and tight. Pretty easy to strip them out because the slight flaw in precision.
Thanks!
Donovan, THANKS SO MUCH! I haven’t been on this channel for a while because I recently changed to @creatorsecrets. But so grateful and you really didn’t have to ☺️ Hope you got something out of it! Cheers bud 🙋🏻♂️🙋🏻♂️
I think this is the ultimate gimbal I have had. The main reason I got this is because of the LCD screen display. Pressing button combo to change is really frustrating
Def! It’s also positioned perfect for my short wide thumbs 🤓😂
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First watch, then comment 😂👌🏻
Great review. I bougth Feiyu Tech AK4000 for a few month. I think Feiyu has a great build quality but firmware and mobile application are torrible.
Hope feiyu tech also update firmware & applicaiton soon.
For AK4500 i love it's. Two Handles is great idea.
with you 100%!!
I was an overuser for sure, that's why I switched over to handheld. However some creative shots screams for gimbal work so I keep it pretty close. Great and honost review bud!
Bram Laenen But man, you’re a gimbal master 😁 Balance is the key word, as always 🙃 Thanks man, next time you can show me your moves 🤙🏻
Any ideas on hard-shelled cases for travel. Feiyutech seems to not provide an accessory case like the Ronin. I have the dual handgrip, gimbal essential kit that I would all like placed within the same case instead of having them separate.
Hmm, I don’t travel that much anymore with it *rona haha. But I do know some of my friends just repurposed or got a pelican case to get everything together. But might be a bit overkill for what you need?
Installing the whole Gimbal itself is a very easy process I’m very easy to learn how to use it. It is stable and great value.
Sounds great! Go get some bangers out there 😎 but please be safe 🙃
Which one will you suggest me if i have to choose from crane 3lab, ronin s, moza air2 and this ak4500? I am a beginer and have 80d with ef 16-35mm f2.8 iii with me now.
I’m not that home in the other brands, but I would say, look at your budget, and the featured you think are most usefull to you. Gimbals nowadays have a lot of usability & all these you say are pretty good. So whichever you choose is gonna be fine! That being said, the difference between them is in the details, so therefore, think about what you will be using them for :)
Great review!!! Same thoughts over here, people over use them too much. Gimbals have their space and time to be used, mainly when you want to have a moving scene or sort of. But... and there's always a but, xD people just because they have a gimbal want to put moving scenes all the time and it becomes too boring... it certainly influences the creativity part of the creation process. I don't own a gimbal (and I would love to... Feiyutech, DJI, if you read this send me some stuff xD) so I'm used to go for the handheld, and the end results I get from it are by far my favourite.
Always cool to help you out bro ;) keep them coming!
carlospimentel Hey man, but what a butt 🤙🏻 yah man, 100%! We should do a podcast about this 🤔 “Most overused filmmaker tools” 😅
Tom's Odyssey we should totally do it 😎😅
Word man 😁🤙🏻👌🏻
Hey you deserved award for saying about OVERUSE... I'm wedding filmmaker for 27 years. I always tried to introduce some movement in limited possibilities like rushed unstaged weddings, either by locking ENG camera to body and slowly transfer weight from right to left leg (mimicking sliders before they even came to average user), or mimic dolly shot with collapsing one tripod leg, or slow zooms, ... or balance tripod just right, to carry it like steadycam. It was doable very smooth since cameras got optical stabilisation after 2000's. But now this gimbals came out in last decade... OMG everything CONSTANTLY flies around object. No piece for viewer. Also they just run and gun and gimbals produce nervous footage for being aggressively corrected. Regardless one still need some feeling. Yes, I hate overuse, but what about consumers?
Than you mentioned too much work to calibrate. I remember having on test a very popular GlideCam "stedicam" and almost lost my nerves to calibrate it. Fiddly is mildly put. Original SteadyCam was of course poetry in comparison, but 10 times more expensive. In the end GlideCam produced marginally better shot at best than my balanced tripod method. But in my case I just readjusted ball head on tripod a bit, reposition LCD on handle, or something and had decent enough balance to make a walking shot I needed, in next moment I could put it down and had tripod or take camcorder in my hands and run. Handy. Internal stabilisation ironed out all vibrations and software fixed slow wobbling if needed. I never opted for Ronin or something since my camcorder was 4 kg, too costly, low end gimbals never was good other tan for gopro. But I always had Yi4K on top of my camcorder, stable enoughh already since carried on heavy camera. Also had good internal stabilisation.
Let see what you find out of this AK4500... it looks promising, versatile and cheap. And strong enough and what I dreamed for 10 years ago, to be able to have "slider/crane/tripod/gimbal" device in one piece, plus remote and I can use large belt battery and LCD wile having camera alone on remote (total control on camera).
Thank you for review.
Hey Michael! Love your comment :) I think it’s just that a lot of people come into the Industry and think this is the “new normal”. But as you know, with 27 years in the running, it’s the experience that’s so much more important than the gear. With experience comes better equipment. However I think it’s also good for the experienced filmmakers to try out the new things that come out... I’ve seen a lot of veterans who keep stuck in their old ways and never really rediscover their style.
Young and learn can learn so much from each other :)
Btw let me know if you got one in the end, and good luck if you do! 😄🙌🏻
@@tomsodyssey I certainly thinking how I will proceed after three years of creative break, when I dedicated to photography only. My old gear is old now, team separated. I own 4x HDV cameras and 2x fHD action cam and YI4K cam + 2x DSLR and vintage lenses.
HDV camcorders are too big, too old, but with great zoom (33 - 650 mm equivalent) for conferences, where I can put external recorder on them, and shoot 7 hours without pause. Can't do it with any DSLR on market. Should I sell it for beans or not. Probably not.
DSLR mania of Canon 5Dii and f1.2 lenses are passed thankfully, people started to appreciate they can recognise some background again and have normal video of ceremony, not some artstic pile of blur :) But I kinda think it had to be 4K sensor in 2020 for flexibility, just to use software stabilisation when needed and some reframing in the post. I tested Canon EOS C-100ii and while good camera and image, I could not adapt to "awkward" still camera hybrid, stepped iris (aperture), ISO that had to be well thought in advance (0.5 f-stop margin of error only, while at least 2 f-stops on HDV cameras I have), and not putting out 4K despite sensor. Also no autofocus or motor zoom on best lenses (only for cheap low end zoom lenses with add-on). Higher models of C-xxx cameras does not return investment these days on weddings.
But after so many years they seem to made it again, the perfect reporter, prosumer, indy camera, XF705 - it have what it seems the best compromise sensor size of 1'', half the zoom of old model for that reason of bigger sensor (25-320 mm) which is OK. Half the weight of previous camera, 3 separate real lens dials, ... I was able to pull iris, focus and zoom at the same tiime with one hand. Try that with DLSR. I was surprised the format is still alive and Canon put effort in it.
In the mean while I shot few small projects myself with action camera, phone, etc. I certainly search for other approaches too. Weddings can be cheaply budgeted so this kind of one man band gunning reminds me of my starts in 1994, and later having a S-VHS shoulder camcorder, giant tripod, shotgun, cable, 100W halogen light, camera case and tripod case and large tapes all on my body. Today we can go lighter and smaller, less intrusive to spectators.
I always loved we sneak in hidden corners and use massive zooms, to produce multicamera, videos with decent blurred background and natural telephoto shots not "warped" closeups, not to nerve bride or groom, and they most often asked when we did all angles. Also I started with remote sound as simple as using dictaphones with external mic - cheap, LoFi but unimaginably better in large church than any competition.
Yeah, I subscribed to you as I think you have sorted out what real quality is, to deliver the best in the customer interest, not necessary what he ask, but what he actually will love and appreciate more after a while. I started wedding music videos, the best of videos right since 2nd or 3th wedding (editing S-VHS tapes on local TV station at nights on professional gear), but never on behalf of original TV like full movie.
This days there is a place for cranes like AK4500. I imagine I can use it for steady shots as well and it will follow my style well: 1 moving shot to 3 static. I can use all my described movements, but this time without hacks, much easier to achieve, most likely without post time consuming stabilisation... and I like be mixed in the crowd so people constantly cross the frame, SW steady have no clue what to lock on, also DLSR's have CMOS and to blurry background to lock stabilisation. A good capable gimbal which is than loaded at 50% weight is perfect for this.
You can check my last ONE-MAN-CREW project here and others vimeo.com/190924655
Sorry to get back to you so late! Got a few projects starting up, which during this crisis are pretty welcome 🙏. the video looked awesome, always in for that film look 😎! And i need to check that cam out haha! Good luck with your endeavors now man, appreciate you being part of the fam ;) and please, stay safe!!
Can you power the camera with the gimbal? and can you add a piece to add more accesories like to add a v- mount battery?
I haven't tried running power through the camera, also depends on your camera ofcourse. I would check out small rig, they always make great accesories for gimbals! I attached a camera handle to the handle of the gimbal to add lights and stuff :)
@@tomsodyssey ok, i want to know if was posible power the camera like a poket 4K with the Feiyu-Tech AK4500. if the Feyu tech has a 12V output?
Best gimbal AK4500.
With my GH5 i prefer handheld because there is great stabilisation in camera body, but with A7iii i prefer using with gimbal.
Someone who gets me!
Do you think it's better than the weebil s?
Gonna be honest, haven’t used that one yet ☺️
But there is a payload difference & therefor also price difference.. so I think that might help you already with your current setup that you would use 😄
I'm still wondering if I should buy one. I've managed 5 years without but I know there will be a job I struggle with if I don't get one. Same with my drone I hardly ever use it. I with DJI would do a slightly larger pocket.
Hey Mark 🤙🏻 I totally get your problem! But maybe these questions can help yourself:
Would it help you get shots you want to do but can’t at the moment?
Do you have projects that would profit from those shots?
Do you want to build out these skills in your filmmaking toolbox, or do you have other skills that need working on first?
You know your work best. You dont need gimbals, but they can enrich your shoots if used correctly and at the right time :) hope this helps!! 🤓🤙🏻
@@tomsodyssey thanks - I think I'm just to lazy. 😁
Hahaha, yeah, def grow a pair of these: 💪🏻😂
What’s the name of your camera bag?
Peakdesign! One of the best bags I ever owned 💪🏻
Thanks man, I’ll check it out
what is the software edit your vedio
I edit everything on premiere pro by adobe 👌🏻
thanks keep going👍👍👍
Thanks man! Hope you like the vids & happy creating my friend 🤙🏻🔥
Hahah, I remember when you first got that one :p it has its flaws but it’s a good gimbal ^^
Oh haha, you were there for the good, the great and the ugly 😅😂
Yes its a quality product but I just cant seem to handle it! Camera all balance but seems to go in any direction it seems. Plus agree I need to up my arm muscles :(
Hey Laurence! Did you own a gimball before? If not, try each mode just walking straight lines & bringing in 1 extra movement (turn left,right, spin,...) at a time. It’s a learning process, but once you get the hang of how the gimbal (or any gimbal for that matter) moves, you can get every shot what you want ;)
Just takes time 😅 and that will help build those muscles 🙃
Thanks. Yes I had the ak2000 dual handle but tbh I didn’t use it much but used it on a professional job and was impressed with the results however the balancing was a nightmare and the 4500 solved lots of those issues and more. I have re watched FT video and think I set the tilt wrongly so going to give it another go. Yes I need to do some proper practice as it seems to need yet another learning curve:( Too old time get proper muscles now!
Oh I’m using Fuji XT3 with battery grip. Disappointed the genius at FT didn’t do software so I can use, time lapse, camera control etc. Great product but could have been better with my Fuji.
wait? less than 3000 views for a video with THIS quality?
you gotta be kidding me no way
Thanks man, making my day 🙏🏻
*the grind continues 💪🏻
Tom's Odyssey no, you made my day. This type of content, with good quality that makes UA-cam a better place.
Awh Thanks! More viewers like you also helps 😎
Misschien toch beter dieje AK47 gekocht 😉 Damn da quick release systeem is handig 😳
Hahaha, told ya 😂
Ge kunt m misschien nog terug brengen als ge de markers eraf haalt 🤓
Hmm .. I've been watching a buch of AK4500 reviews. But the Ronin is just so much better. Depending on the Payload ! For heavier cameras this unit is still a Chinese copy of the Ronin.
I'm thinking of buying this AK4500 Gimbal. Several videos on here have them using cinema cameras.. One goes from a fully loaded RED to C200, to Blackmagic... And ALL of these guys Have the the Ronin and Absolutely recommend this Feiyutech AK4500 after using it. And besides... Almost ALL Small filmmaker equipment is made in china now... And DJI is a Chinese tech company BASED in Shenzhen. ;-)
@@liberalpoet Sure, maybe it satisfies your needs.. Have ever owned a Ronin? Or know someone who owns one? If you can, compare them.
@@SanderBaks No. I have never owned one and only used handheld and steadicam. But I do know people that own the Ronin and have complained of issues... Much like this reviewer "Toms Odyssey" complains of Ronin. It simply makes good sense to compare as many people's opinions before dishing out 700-1000 quid... That's what video blogs are for. And.. Which I imagine is why you clicked onto this review? But I'll be happy to look at your review of the Ronin? Please paste link. In the meantime, I will probably buy this AK4500 and see if it satisfied my needs come Award season. ;-) My original comment was replying to your "this unit is still a Chinese copy of the Ronin." And I was saying that Most things (including Ronin) are made in China. Best.
Like already said, this will probably depend on what you need! I don't like to use gimbals in the first place, but that's for my type of filmmaking. The AK4500 just feels more intuitive for me. And I'm saying this after buying the Ronin and using it 2 times, and having the AK4500 send to me and haven used it for atleast 20 shoots now. But again, for me mobility and ease of use are important. Just feel what your gut is telling you, and if the thing you get doesn't suit your needs, sell it and pick something else, that's how I roll 😄