The Potential Future For Traditional TV
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- As the streamers continue to dominate and grow within our entertainment landscape, how can the big boys of traditional TV survive? Well, one ex-TV boss suggest that the BBC, ITV, CHANNEL 4 & CHANNEL 5 can only survive and compete, if they all join forces together...
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Once merged, they will all be taken over by Disney.
Then it will get all confusing and we will find EastEnders on Channel 4, Coronation Street on BBC 2 and so on! Or shunt them around!
Except Disney is having issues themselves and was looking to offload ABC and ESPN.
I think Comcast or another company would be more likely.
I’ve always thought all tv and streaming will go to Disney and all shops and shopping will go to Amazon. Or at least these two companies will dominate said markets crippling the competition so they are the only ones left
@@ccateni28
Disney are having issues because there is too much competition in the American Media & Streaming Sectors. So doing additional M&A Deals would solve that.
@@ccateni28 But Comcast already own Sky. That would just complicate things.
Wasn't BritBox a collab between the BBC, ITV and Channel 4?
It was a collaboration between BBC & ITV, in fact it still is outside the UK.
Channel 4 was also involved, but only as a content supplier.
THEY ALL ARE GONNA FRICKING MERGE
Won't this just be BritBox but with more content? I really don't think it'd do that well considering how BritBox performed here
As an outsider, here's what really gonna happen.
The BBC could just switch to general taxation running as it is.
ITV and Channel 4 could merge, becoming a Great British TV powerhouse that can pull punches with foreign streamers, with distinct brands, although the Starmer govt. would force both broadcasters to sell off some Freeview channels and businesses and follow certain rules.
Channel 5 will certainly get sold off to another American media giant or one of those City investment firms, Sky or WBD could snap it up which would offer a FTA home for their sports output. I remember the last time when they went up for sale, even Al Jazeera (yes the Qataris) were in the running to buy Ch.5 .
I’d LOOOOOVE to pay for Britbox which includes BBC+ITV+Channel 4! ❤🇬🇧 I love TV in general and the UK one is the world’s best. Unfortunately we (Europe) can’t even use the current Britbox as this operates in the USA only. These “quality” TV series on streaming platforms just don’t match the variety of traditional television programmes.
How mad that so many people have 3+ streaming services! 🤯
My sister and her fiancé have Netflix, disney+, amazon prime AND a full sky sports package. And other family members have at least 1 subscription service and sky.
I'm the only one in the family that still mainly relies on freeview, youtube and free streaming services...occasionally bumming a disney or Netflix login when I wanna watch something specific 😅
I don't subscribe to any of them!
If they're all going to merge what would happen to the tv licence would the licence be abolished and replaced with a similar broadcast model like Channel 4. I feel ITV needs to up their game tv programme wise the network needs better shows. I don't believe we should ever lose free to air terrestrial tv channels. As far channel 5 we'll the tv shows on that are dire they too need to up their game.
Yes, the Licence Fee belongs in the 20th Century. Ads or subscription option is where it’s at. I’d imagine the name being…
BBC.
They are probably the world’s most famous Broadcaster after all! A streaming service where you could potentially watch Strictly Come Dancing, Coronation Street, News, Love Island and The UK’s Favourite Dance Hit (😉) could be a real hit.
As for News, I think Ofcom need to look global (though Regional News would remain on the new BBC). You have Sky News, France 24, Euronews, CNBC, CNN etc.
I think Channel 4 will merge with Amazon, and put Prime Video shows on the Channel 4 App.
Let's hope not!!
There is a lot to unpick in legislation before any of this could even be thought about.
ITV operates essentially still on a region by region franchise award, not forgetting STV and ITV are two different companies.
Channel 4 is statutory corporation owned by Govt and BBC exists by Royal Charter.
5 has public service licence to broadcast it private beyond that.
Then there’s S4C in Wales which has different arrangements.
News would need to retain it’s independence for plurality reasons (although ITN is contractor for ITV, 4 and 5 anyway)
Despite its ITV branding Channel 3 breakfast licence is also separate run by ITV Breakfast Ltd.
All channel 3 and channel 5 licences come up for renewal end at end of 2024.
That would be impossible to do in the future.
So when the Internet crashes like it did last week and maybe for longer in the future we have no TV. to watch either
Can't see it happening.
If the main 5 channels merge they could call the streaming platform ‘1two5’
BBC,itv,channel 4,channel 5 would merge it would also include following S4C,My5,Pluto TV,MTV,Comedy central, MTV music channels, S4C clic, RTE,TG4,STV,Virgin Media channels in Ireland & it would also likely include bbc studios u sterming severs,u&dave,u&yesterday’s,Nick,Nick JR 1 & 2, Nicktoons. It would also involve BBC Sounds app merge in to I player model. Other channels bbc 2,3,4,itv 2,3,4,be,e4,more 4,film 4, 4 seven, e4 extra, bbc news, cbbc, cbbecbies, bbc Parliament. So it would definitely expand the category
ITV will merge it to Viacom and a new name for all its channels.
Hmmm i think all this consolidation doesn't seem that good imo. Sure i get it but i like the channels being distinct and i don't fancy a media monopoly.
it would be a disaster for the industry and especially for people creating content for TV, its a woeful idea
for me i see what britbox is with itv and bbc will be the model the uk mainstream companies will use with everything from U (formerly UKTV Play) added in, but a total merger wont happen
Channel 5 is better than any of them but. I think freely hasn’t got a clue just like freesat when that came about it took so long to get the channels to move across by the time it did people lost interest in buying their equipment the only difference now’ is it’s built in to new tv s when will u be on there no news of any channels coming soon no lessons learnt
I did get 3-4 streamers at a time over lockdowns etc because it was still cheaper than the license fee when they were ridiculously cheap.
However, over the last year I’ve been cancelling most of them because the price rises have gotten crazy and availability has been getting poorer and poorer. With the price rises I’ve been wanting to just set aside the same money for Blu-rays.
On the non-visual front, I had Spotify since it launched in Europe but this month is my final month with it. I put up with it when they got rid of the grandfathered £5 premium to bump me up to £10 since I still listened to a lot of new music and they paid a bit better a decade ago, but recent changes have been ridiculous. And, again, so many things have been disappearing lately.
So I do agree with you, but I wouldn’t be surprised if most people with 3+ did so based on inertia when they were much cheaper like me. These companies make it almost as hard as cancelling the license fee nowadays 😅 but I’m looking forward to just ripping all my CDs onto a NAS and giving up monthly fees.
This is fundamentally what Everyone TV's Freely already is: the UK PSBs vs the streaming world.
that's mental
Imagine ITV,Channel 4 and Channel 5 getting merged it seems Paramount is disappointed it will create Commercial TV Group called BCTG. While BBC is remain default no commercial breaks feels strange
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Bear in mind that Paramount also own Pluto TV and I thought My5 was going to be merged into Pluto TV with both services being under the ownership of Paramount.
As for a new owner for Channel 5? Well, maybe the Murdochs might want to re-enter the British TV market and Comcast own Sky, there's also Sony... maybe even Netflix or Amazon might confuse everyone by buying a British linear TV network.
Personally I'd like to see Channel 5 get a British owner or at least a European owner.
I think if the BBC loses the licence money, merging with ITV will become inevitable. It's even possible that a future Tory government will force a merger between the BBC and ITV. Once that happens a merger of streaming services will follow. I think I'd favour a Disney+ style of streaming service where each brand would have their own "tab" for older and less mainstream shows while the more popular/newer ones would share the main page.
ITVX is the only one of those streaming services that does well
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BBC Studios also own UKTV so will UKTV Play also become part of it?
A merger is more likely to happen with the commercial terrestrial channels. Regarding the BBC I feel the license fee will go on general taxation
Honestly, nobody should really miss Channel 5. Especially when it doesn't add anything to the table and takes ad revenue that would otherwise be going to Channel 4 & ITV.
Saying that, there is some benefit to Paramount (and eventually Comcast or Disney, assuming one of them buys Paramount at some point) keeping Channel 5.
Firstly, it means that Paramount (and eventually the likes of Disney & Comcast) would be able to retain the FTA Rights to the content they own rather than licence them out to the likes of BBC/ITV/Channel 4. Which would increase the revenues they generate from said content.
Secondly, if Comcast (who own Sky Sports) end up buying Paramount (& Channel 5), they would be able to bid for Sports Rights that are legally required to remain FTA (or at least de facto), such as the World Cup, Euros, FA Cup, Premier League/Champions League Highlights and the Six Nations.
Sorry but lots of people love Chanel 5
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Is there any evidence to back that up though? Certainly it wasn't the case on the ratings front before the age of streaming, let alone in 2024.
It also doesn't help that many of the best programmes from that channel come from the United States as well. Which kind of shows how redundant the channel actually is from the British Perspective.
@@MrSmith1984 good point 👍
Channel 4 and channel 5 merging? Channel 9?
Itv rumor to be taken over by Netflix boosting share price. Seems paramount lost interest in maintaining channel 5 bet up for sale soon.
ITV possible takeover of channel 4 was stopped. But potentially Netflix could get ITV and channel 5 in next few years .
Bbc will have to be subscription iPlayer with basic to premium packages actually cost more to have than licence fee but means no moaning about bbc funding cuts and bbc make bigger Netflix type shows .
Who’s going to make the news? Welcome to _The Ministry of Truth_
There would be so many legal obstacles to this, it’s a fun thought experiment but I personally can’t see this happening in the short to medium term.
Will they even be allowed to merge? I’m sure the competitions commission will have something to say about that. I mean, yes there’s Freeview, Sky (with Now as an offshoot), Virgin Media, Amazon Prime, Paramount+, and Disney+, but I’m not convinced they would be allowed to do it. But either way, I’m all for scrapping the licence fee, it’s a very out of date legacy idea. We’ve had subscription based TV ever since Sky and Virgin in their previous guises as NTL and/or Telewest started up. Plus the fact that tradition linear TV is an out of date idea too now with all these streaming only sites and catchup from the traditional linear companies, you can watch things almost literally whenever you like. And launching new series one episode per week can still be a thing, Netflix, Amazon, Paramount and Disney have all launched new episodes of certain popular series on a specific day and time each week, as they would have done on BBC, ITV, C4 or C5 etc.
Netflix, Amazon and Disney+ need to go away so traditional TV does not go the way of the dinosaur 🙄
A merger between itv and channel 4 makes sense to me. After all, channel 4 was essentially the original ITV2 in all but name until the early 90s when it became its own corportation.
The BBC should stay as it is. Maybe trim off some of its freeview/ DAB fat (bbc3, 4, parliament etc becoming iplayer only) but otherwise carry on as is.
Channel 5 take it or leave it quite frankly 🤣
Make a service where we can buy content and make copy protected file we could download and keep for ever by having all the content in one place
BRING IN THE TANKS!
Having a strong public streamer could keep the subscription costs of commercial streamers down.
What on earth have you done to your appearance? Very scary.
There is no plans for merging ATM
It will be called I bbc 4 5
Come back thames tv and London weekend tv 😢😢😢😢😢😢
I can see C4 & C5 as part of BBC Worldwide but not C3 E,W,NI & Scottish Borders.
Only streaming service i have is youtube premium which has a better option
I can not see any tv company wanting to merge with the bbc.
Weren't this already done with Britbox?? It merge with ITVX.
That what happen
Collaboration
Your avatar is the worst logo in British history... that's f*****g funny.
Wasn't that britbox? 🤔
it wont ever happen
hey thats a kinda good idea
A BBC/ITV/STV/Channel 4/ITN Merger could actually work under the following circumstances:
*The Combined Broadcaster adopts the BBC Name.
*Increase the Licence Fee to £730 a Year...and also apply it to those who have a Broadband Connection and/or Mobile Phone Contract. This would also mean that the BBC continues to not have adverts.
*Have BBC Four take ITV's Slot on the EPG, whike BBC Four takes Channel 4's slot on the EPG.
*Shut down all the ITV & Channel 4 channels that they own. And distrbute their content across the existing 6 Channels of the BBC.
*Scrap all Reality Shows.
*Absorb ITN into BBC News.
*Negotiate with Disney+, Amazon & Netflix over the Non-UK & Ireland Rights to all the content they own. On the condition that the winning streamer agrees to co-produce all the content (bar News & Current Affairs) that the BBC currently makes.
not workable, also scrapping the cheapest and most profitable form of TV is a stupid suggestion
@@j887le8
Can you explain to me why my proposals are "not workable" then?
Also how is Reality TV a form of "Public Service Broadcasting" in any shape or form?
Finally, I would point out that there is nothing stopping the government forcing the "New" BBC into scrapping all their reality shows after their merger with ITV/STV/ITN & Channel 4.
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I would also point out that the Government can force the BBC to scrap all their reality shows as a condition of allowing a BBC-ITV/STV/ITN-Channel 4 Merger.
@@j887le8
Would you mind telling me why the proposal I made is unworkable? Alongside telling me why Reality TV should be considered a form of Public Service Broadcasting?
Bear in mind also that the British Government can impose these conditions on the BBC in return for letting them merge with both ITV/STV/ITN and Channel 4.
@@MrSmith1984 it's not workable because none of the broadcasters would want it. They all lose out except the BBC. ITV, C4 and C5 have spent a lot of money creating a trusted brand and as C5 is owned by Viacom they will not merge. An increased license fee is insanity, its already unpopular enough. It also would be thrown out in an instant by the competition regulator. It would cripple the UKs independent TV and film sector who rely on C4 to commission their work that other broadcasters won't show. The whole concept of a merger is batshit I'm afraid. And reality TV entertains tens of millions of people in the UK. It is incredibly cheap to make and gets a lot of eyeballs. Entertain being the key word as a part of the PSB mission to inform educate and entertain.
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Traditional tv is dead as future is netflix, paramount plus abd disney plus , amazon and appme plus and crunchyroll etc i mesn tv is dead as people say traditional tv is living people refyse to move forward
Traditional tv is dead
they all lose horrific amounts of money...... streaming market globally is massively oversaturated