Thank you for such an informative video, you answered several of my questions. I recently purchased the Hi Tec 10" saw but my goal is the auto feed saw. Wonderful video!
Great tests, Kyle. Really interesting results on oil vs. water. I have a gravity fed slab saw, and my cuts look very much like your auto-fed example. I use mineral oil and made a custom hood for mine because i couldn't handle the mess.
Nice. Another advantage to the autofed saw is that you can't be tempted to try to rotate the rock while it is cutting. The ridges that can cause really takes a lot of time to grind down. A similar thing I have noticed on the flat lap is that using a disc coarser than 120 grit can also cause the same type of impact marks in quartz and chalcedony that you were seeing using the manual saw. I was seeing this when trying to polish the thundereggs I got from you. Thanks for taking the time to film. It would be interesting in a long term look to see if there was any difference between the longevity of the diamond blade itself with oil versus water lube.
I agree. A saw is a saw but the speed of travel makes a difference. I use about a 32 of an inch of oil added to the water The oil floats on top and coats the blade on entry and exit. No mess and the the blade has a thin coating for short term storage. Great demo!!!! 😷⚒
Thanks for this. The various videos on UA-cam regarding saws and lubricant and blade types really make a beginner question what is real. Thanks for all your hard work :).
The difference I have found between oil and water is the life of the blade. I get almost twice the life when using oil. The oil I use is water soluble oil, so the cleanup isn't quite as bad.
I appreciate your experiment. My club uses oil in the trim saws. The table gets sprayed. You get sprayed. The ceiling got sprayed about 10 years ago Everything in in the workshop has a very thin layer of oil on it. You leave smelling like rock dust and oil. Then spend a good hour washing and scrubbing that off you in the shower. 😂
I use to spend time at a local shop and it didn't matter if I worked on something or not....my wife could smell the shop on me lol It was typically a smart idea to wear clothes you didn't care for. I've lost many a good hoodies to oil stains 😅
@@WorldofRockhounds 😂 At home I have a Genie and use the trim saw attachment to cut my preforms. It uses water, so my home workshop is an oil-free zone! I only get oiled when I use the club's workshop to slab rough or use equipment that I don't have at home.
Hi many years ago when I was an engineering apprentice the surface grinders had an addative added to the cooling water to prevent corrosion, maybe worth a try.
😂 I can’t wait. I have only used water with my 7” tile saw. I clean my saw and wipe it down with oil so it doesn’t rust every time i cut Welp looks like I need a auto feed saw
Do you have a video on how you clean the oil off the trim saw? Is their a chemical you use to remove the oil off. I have the older one and want to just switch over to a water and diamond lube type mix. How do I get that mineral oil off the old machine, to make it for water. Thank you
@RachelChinadle I don't have a video but I'll use a couple washing rounds with degreaser and then a couple washing rounds with just dawn dish soap because it does seem to take a while to really clean something that was used with oil.
@@WorldofRockhounds Thanks I went to a rock club the other day and asked a guy who takes his all the way apart and puts it back together and he told me what I could use to wash it off and get most of it off. He mainly used water too. Dawn soap is so helpful though when getting a lot of the oil off.
Thank you for such an informative video, you answered several of my questions. I recently purchased the Hi Tec 10" saw but my goal is the auto feed saw. Wonderful video!
Great tests, Kyle. Really interesting results on oil vs. water. I have a gravity fed slab saw, and my cuts look very much like your auto-fed example. I use mineral oil and made a custom hood for mine because i couldn't handle the mess.
Nice. Another advantage to the autofed saw is that you can't be tempted to try to rotate the rock while it is cutting. The ridges that can cause really takes a lot of time to grind down. A similar thing I have noticed on the flat lap is that using a disc coarser than 120 grit can also cause the same type of impact marks in quartz and chalcedony that you were seeing using the manual saw. I was seeing this when trying to polish the thundereggs I got from you.
Thanks for taking the time to film. It would be interesting in a long term look to see if there was any difference between the longevity of the diamond blade itself with oil versus water lube.
I agree. A saw is a saw but the speed of travel makes a difference. I use about a 32 of an inch of oil added to the water
The oil floats on top and coats the blade on entry and exit. No mess and the the blade has a thin coating for short term storage. Great demo!!!! 😷⚒
Appreciate your in depth video on this subject,have a great day!
Thank You. The mess from oil, is why I use water. That oil spray is a royal pain!!!
Awesome video!! Thanks for the information.
Thanks for this. The various videos on UA-cam regarding saws and lubricant and blade types really make a beginner question what is real. Thanks for all your hard work :).
Glad it was helpful!
The difference I have found between oil and water is the life of the blade. I get almost twice the life when using oil. The oil I use is water soluble oil, so the cleanup isn't quite as bad.
You poor man! All that effort and elbow grease. Thanks for doing it so no one else has to, yer awesome.❤
Great info Kyle. Thanks.
Very educational, thanks!
I appreciate your experiment. My club uses oil in the trim saws. The table gets sprayed. You get sprayed. The ceiling got sprayed about 10 years ago Everything in in the workshop has a very thin layer of oil on it. You leave smelling like rock dust and oil. Then spend a good hour washing and scrubbing that off you in the shower. 😂
I use to spend time at a local shop and it didn't matter if I worked on something or not....my wife could smell the shop on me lol
It was typically a smart idea to wear clothes you didn't care for. I've lost many a good hoodies to oil stains 😅
@@WorldofRockhounds 😂 At home I have a Genie and use the trim saw attachment to cut my preforms. It uses water, so my home workshop is an oil-free zone! I only get oiled when I use the club's workshop to slab rough or use equipment that I don't have at home.
This was a great test!
Thanks, great experiment.
Hi many years ago when I was an engineering apprentice the surface grinders had an addative added to the cooling water to prevent corrosion, maybe worth a try.
Thanks for the demo
I have an old 10” auto fed saw. Good test, my sources tell me oil is easier on the blade than water.
YES! This is how I justify the slow saw. 😂
😂 I can’t wait. I have only used water with my 7” tile saw. I clean my saw and wipe it down with oil so it doesn’t rust every time i cut
Welp looks like I need a auto feed saw
Won’t be surprised if this whole thread disappears. I’m not on YT’s good side at the moment.
I use mineral oil on all my lapidary saws, from the 6" to the 14"...
wish I could find an auto feed saw, still using my Harbor freight special
Kyle, do you have an expirience with gravity feed on 10 inch saw? Can you get better quality of cut with that?
Do you have a video on how you clean the oil off the trim saw? Is their a chemical you use to remove the oil off. I have the older one and want to just switch over to a water and diamond lube type mix. How do I get that mineral oil off the old machine, to make it for water. Thank you
@RachelChinadle I don't have a video but I'll use a couple washing rounds with degreaser and then a couple washing rounds with just dawn dish soap because it does seem to take a while to really clean something that was used with oil.
@@WorldofRockhounds Thanks I went to a rock club the other day and asked a guy who takes his all the way apart and puts it back together and he told me what I could use to wash it off and get most of it off. He mainly used water too. Dawn soap is so helpful though when getting a lot of the oil off.
man if i could get 3 auto fed saws i could slab so much juice.