When you look at the spells Hagatha will be able to pull in standard it becomes a lot less exciting. It’s a pretty meh pool unfortunately. Crash of lighting has the most potential maybe? Crazy potential for the future though.
@@calebwilkie2200 Agatha dragging the new 7 spell and tripling it is good. or you can go nuclear with it and play the mini after block and 9x the 7 spell. that's what...+18/+27?
@@calebwilkie2200If you hit with Haghata the survival of the fittest card into shudderblock into that you have in theory haghatha, schutterblock and a 7/7 but all 3 of them are +6/+9 plus all of your deck and hand aswell
Seems nuts until you realize you just played three do-nothing turns in a row. A 5 mana 4/4 followed by a 6 mana 5/5 followed by a 7 mana 13/16. A decent plan into hard control, a death sentence into anything else.
Red Card is like a better Sap, removes a problematic/annoying minion so you can swing face, and unlike Sap you don't need to worry about your opponent just replaying the minion next turn, all for only 1 mana. In that sense, it's kind of like Blackjack Stunner, but without the body or Secret requirement, and a Demon Hunter card instead of a Rogue card.
i know you said those battle cry cards sound like arena cards but to me it sounded like a commander block from mtg with your commander being the one that doubles every battle cry. id love to see a commander format come to hearthstone tbh
If this expansion is a walk through some of the strongest moments of every class: Shudderwock Shaman, Malygos Druid, Buff Paladin, Demon Hunter (at launch), mech and control warrior, and Big Warlock (I’m thinking back to Kobolds and Catacombs with Cube Warlock) Does that mean we are possibly getting Deathrattle Priest cards and a Yogg-in-a-Box for Mage (with the amount of randomness and the Box of Yogg being a thing)?
I could see Red Card being played as it basically shuts down a big enemy threat for 2 turns such as a big taunt and/or deathrattle minion. I could also see this potentially seeing play in more aggro demon hunter decks as if a big taunt gets in the way you can just Red Card it then win in the 2 turns it's dormant. Also, keep in mind that while dormant it's taking up a spot on the board, limiting your opponents options even further. Sure you could use it on your own minions such as Magtheridon, Unreleased but I think more often than not it'll be used as a pseudo-removal tool.
Turn 6: Shudderblock. Turn 7: Hagatha the fabled and Saloon Brewmaster on Hagatha. Turn 8-9: Go nuts with 6 minion/spells. Turn 10: Mini Shudderblock + Hagatha + minion/spell or second Saloon Brewmaster. You could make a deck similar to Odyn warrior with only Shudderblock, Hagatha and both Brewmasters that focuses on drawing them and turning as many spells into minions. If +2/3 works on minions AFTER playing Hagatha then this might be OP. Edit: Just realized that Saloon Brewmasters would probably work on minion/spells so you could repeat spells.
Ita crazy because I personally feel like Magtheridon isn't bad until you look at other classes. Comparing him to say the Shudderblock its no contest which is better.
Trumpsc played a roleplaying game with the Rollplay channel years ago. It was Dungeon world I think. He may be down for more. Day9 may have been there too.
Crane Game summoning two different demons and not a demon twice meaning you probably won't get two of the minion you want sounds so horrendous. How does shaman and druid get all of what they get and Demon hunter and Warlock look like they will be at an all time low
Shudderblock end turn. Framester into zola into mini shudderblock into Framester (10mana). 18 overload cards into their deck in 2 turns. or just get 3 Astalors :)
1 mana buff for 2/3 is unconditional with shroomscavate and it pushes 4 damage instead of 2. 4 mana give a minion divine shield windfury +2/+3 and excavate. SEEMS PRETTY FUCKING GOOD
Hear me out, use Shudderblock with Chaotic Tendrils package. Becauss of 4 expansions, and a lot of shitty 10 mana spells rotated out, there is huge chance it will just cast Sunset Volley (deal 10 damaged shared among all enemies and summon 10 cost mana minions)
Cheat out the queen, enchant it with the cursed campaign and you get 16 mana worth of stuff in 2 turns. It takes proablly 1 turn to get through both if the 4/6s and you can just press the queen. I think this might be a return of void lord
Super excited for shaman this expansion! The cards look amazing and really fun. I've been telling you shaman knows what it wants, and it wants valuuue!
Wait, if you play Shudderblock and than his Mini, does the third Card trigger 9 Times? Also increase your Hand to 11 and get a Bluescreen when the Warlock card costs minus 1. Also Nemsy is pretty good. Pretty much immortal drawing and Summoning Demons all the Time. Sure not broken by herself, but pretty much infinite Value over Time.
red card doesnt need to be used with the legendary, but it can be if the situation likes it, against control its deal 6 to face and red card can put a minion they want or a taunt away for lethal, and against aggro (if you can make it that far) it just shuts down the game for them I dont think it works that well because I dont think demonhunter will be able to sustain even with that good 4 mana dude, but eehhh I can see it tried
"ya gotta draw the card. And then ya gotta play the card" Not saying i don't get what you mean but damn these kinds of statements always sound funny to me xD.
Shudderblock Math goin crazy: if it stacked: shudderblock next battlecry x3, if mini: 1st battlecry would proc 3 times, 2nd 9 times, 3rd 27 times. And that is why they will not stack lmao
@@l.virsigah9079 I perceived it as it would triple the next battle cry. If I used a battle cry that triples the next battle cry it would make sense that the next battle cry would be 9x stronger. Maybe it's a side effect of having mtg as my card game of choice
@@daagonthebefeler7960No, it would still only trigger 3 times. The thing is that the card does not say "triple", it just says that the Battlecry triggers three times. If it helps, you can imagine that instead of "3 times", the card says "thrice." If you still aren't convinced, then a perfect example would be the old Brann. That card made Battlecries trigger twice, and you couldn't increase it no matter how many Branns you had on the board, the Battlecries would still just trigger twice.
I mean they have 1 mana deal 2 and some 2 taunts, they have deal 15 to all minions w/ lifesteal, only warrior has that level of insane control, and odyn is probably the best card warrior has gotten for that reason. It’s all about the control tools the classes have.
Turn 1-5: Excavate once Turn 6: Shudderblock Turn 7: Kobold Miner, miniblock, Azerite Murloc - all your minions are transformed into +9 cost ones or in wild Turn 6: Shudderblock, coin, miniblock Turn 7: 2x Stonetusk Boar, fungalmancer, 38 to the face (or 2 totems on the board with the legendary that gives +2 attack to your totems)
@@petrjara7559 Shudderblock and miniblock shouldn't stack, since the wording is specifically "your next battlecry triggers 3 times". Tripling Miniblock does accomplish a whole lot of nothing.
@@zephyros256 So you either play excavate or Ignis or it's just completely useless... Nice. But "Cards cost X less" effect also stacks for no reason so there might be a hope. Also weird they restrict the effect to not damage heroes if you can't even make it 9x. The strongest battlecry is like what, Fire Elemental for 12 to the face? xD Or Skarr if you can consistently play elementals even in your shudderblock turn but since they have no problem with Brann -> Lorthemar -> Trenchstalker for 60 damage OTK where's the point of restricting 30 damage OTK with Skarr that you need to set up for 10 consecutive turns
@@petrjara7559 translating "Card cost X less" into the shudderblock effect would be "Your next battlecry occurs 2 more times". The shudderblock effect (to keep the card cost idea) is closer to "Card costs X" like naga sea witch (but on a battlecry). Also, the effect is only on battlecry directly so any battlecry effect that indirectly attacks face is totally okay (like a "Do X damage to all enemies" spell that gets executed by the battlecry from those hagatha things.
You can just shuffle a ton of slime into your deck, then otk your opponent with the wheel of death, can't you? You can also play that 15-15 lifesteal legendary for free
@eamk887 ehh, it's still 1 mana get 3 astalors. Basically 2 cards can be an entire deck win con. Good game design lol. So 2 mana astalor into 3 5 mana, and if needed get 5 8 mana ones. Just get rid of astalor please lol. I use it and hate it but it's just free value wincon. Give it the daddy d treatment
after about 3 years of not playing this game but keeping up with Rarran's content, i've decided to buy the pre-purchase bundle. i would like to say i'm not happy about this. my life is about to be consumed with pain and misery. i hold you responsible Rarran. God forsake Blizzard and this game
Magtheridon have a potential to brake the game (if its playable). I think that you doesnt realize how much damage for how long it may do. Especially if you play more copies of it. It is board clear and face damage same time. Absolutelly unstopable without Reno. Also Demon Hunter always cheating card cost. I may bet there will be DH nerfs in the 1st patch after expansion release.
Just realiesed, Haghata enables for sudderwock to reapet specific SPELLS this open brand new door
When you look at the spells Hagatha will be able to pull in standard it becomes a lot less exciting. It’s a pretty meh pool unfortunately. Crash of lighting has the most potential maybe? Crazy potential for the future though.
The new survival of the fittest card could be bonkers
Notably its draw 2 spells not discover so there’s a level of consistency
@@calebwilkie2200 Agatha dragging the new 7 spell and tripling it is good. or you can go nuclear with it and play the mini after block and 9x the 7 spell. that's what...+18/+27?
@@calebwilkie2200If you hit with Haghata the survival of the fittest card into shudderblock into that you have in theory haghatha, schutterblock and a 7/7 but all 3 of them are +6/+9 plus all of your deck and hand aswell
Shudderblock gives you the 1/1. Play the 1/1, zola it, get 3 1/1s, bounce zola. Do whatever you want now :)
isnt zola rotate? )
There's also that minion from last expansion that bounces and gives +2/+2
@@M31Andromedayea but bouncing dont give 3 it gives 1
@@Nooy_ it's not gonna be an infinite, but it's still damn broken
@@M31Andromeda no, it isnt. It just gives the mini +2/2 since it consumes the battlecry.
shudderblock making the 7 Mana Buff spell being cast three times because it was drawn by magatha seems nuts
Seems nuts until you realize you just played three do-nothing turns in a row. A 5 mana 4/4 followed by a 6 mana 5/5 followed by a 7 mana 13/16. A decent plan into hard control, a death sentence into anything else.
They really said "lets bring back big demon warlock oh but take out Void Caller and Mal'ganis from the core set"
11:06 Actually, you just Reno on curve and they concede lol. Fun and interactive.
Screw him, I hate him so much
imagine hagatha hitting bloodlust then turn seven dropping two boars and dealing 20 damage to opponents face
Bloodlust rotates, so it will stay in your imagination
Do it in wild for the funsies
Red Card is like a better Sap, removes a problematic/annoying minion so you can swing face, and unlike Sap you don't need to worry about your opponent just replaying the minion next turn, all for only 1 mana. In that sense, it's kind of like Blackjack Stunner, but without the body or Secret requirement, and a Demon Hunter card instead of a Rogue card.
i know you said those battle cry cards sound like arena cards but to me it sounded like a commander block from mtg with your commander being the one that doubles every battle cry. id love to see a commander format come to hearthstone tbh
can't wait for shudderblock -> shudderwock do nothing infinite
But think about all of the the value of playing Wheel of Death on turn 8, and curving perfectly into your Crane Game on turn 9, and...oh wait...
block dragon reference, rarran cant escape yugioh
When you said Shudderblock will be around for 2 years, tears started rolling down my face 😭
If this expansion is a walk through some of the strongest moments of every class:
Shudderwock Shaman, Malygos Druid, Buff Paladin, Demon Hunter (at launch), mech and control warrior, and Big Warlock (I’m thinking back to Kobolds and Catacombs with Cube Warlock)
Does that mean we are possibly getting Deathrattle Priest cards and a Yogg-in-a-Box for Mage (with the amount of randomness and the Box of Yogg being a thing)?
It might be possible since we got a lot of cheating from deck and resurrect priest cards from the corse set. So deathrattles would fit
Tabletop Roleplayer should've been named Tabletop Soulplayer
I could see Red Card being played as it basically shuts down a big enemy threat for 2 turns such as a big taunt and/or deathrattle minion. I could also see this potentially seeing play in more aggro demon hunter decks as if a big taunt gets in the way you can just Red Card it then win in the 2 turns it's dormant. Also, keep in mind that while dormant it's taking up a spot on the board, limiting your opponents options even further. Sure you could use it on your own minions such as Magtheridon, Unreleased but I think more often than not it'll be used as a pseudo-removal tool.
I'm Shudderbricked up after watching another classic More Rarran Fortnite video!
Red card demonhunter seems insane in aggro looks like a better light it burns
I wish they did a themed solo adventure for this expansion
It's Blockdragon from Yu-Gi-Oh
Did Raran just didn't realize you can red card enemy minions?
9:48 also to note, that card was played because Druid could follow it up with 2 0 mana 10/10s and then fill the board with 8/8s
The 3 mana 5/6 is played as the attack yourself is a battle cry and nemsy swaps places with it.
Also nemsy stops the discard effect of doomlord
Turn 6: Shudderblock.
Turn 7: Hagatha the fabled and Saloon Brewmaster on Hagatha.
Turn 8-9: Go nuts with 6 minion/spells.
Turn 10: Mini Shudderblock + Hagatha + minion/spell or second Saloon Brewmaster.
You could make a deck similar to Odyn warrior with only Shudderblock, Hagatha and both Brewmasters that focuses on drawing them and turning as many spells into minions. If +2/3 works on minions AFTER playing Hagatha then this might be OP.
Edit: Just realized that Saloon Brewmasters would probably work on minion/spells so you could repeat spells.
8l)
Shuddering
Wokking
wheel of death is: "Lose the game in 2 turns to win the game in 5 turns"
fancy packaging looks like an insane win more card for aggro pally. Also shudder my beloved
Ita crazy because I personally feel like Magtheridon isn't bad until you look at other classes. Comparing him to say the Shudderblock its no contest which is better.
Sketch Artist is actually pretty insane for Fatigue Warlock
shudderwock + shudderblock, it bypasses the battlecry limit, 40min turns in wild again
Trumpsc played a roleplaying game with the Rollplay channel years ago. It was Dungeon world I think. He may be down for more. Day9 may have been there too.
OH NO! ITS Block Dragon
Magtheradon might be good, there’s a 3 cost 2/2 neutral mech that draws a mech and reduces its cost by 2
Crane Game summoning two different demons and not a demon twice meaning you probably won't get two of the minion you want sounds so horrendous. How does shaman and druid get all of what they get and Demon hunter and Warlock look like they will be at an all time low
Why is it 9 mana? It should be at most 7 mana. If they don’t change it it’s gonna the top three in Zeddy’s video of worst cards of the expansion
With all the fun Minis that we've been getting, Botface Warrior has potential.
wait so if im understanding this you can shuddewock into shudderwock into the new survival of the fittest and have ridiculously high stats
you play hagatha in a deck where your only spell is wish upon a star
Pipsi seems good in a Thunderbringer style deck, I dunno about card quality in standard tho, I don't play the mode.
Shudderblock (6)
Azurite Murloc (4)
My 1-costs are 10-costs.
Shudderblock end turn. Framester into zola into mini shudderblock into Framester (10mana). 18 overload cards into their deck in 2 turns. or just get 3 Astalors :)
Astalor's rotating
Is the Red Card a Stealer of Souls reference with slight color changes or am I looking too deep into it?
Shudderblock and 3 mana Oracle that draws two cards is going to kill
1 mana buff for 2/3 is unconditional with shroomscavate and it pushes 4 damage instead of 2. 4 mana give a minion divine shield windfury +2/+3 and excavate. SEEMS PRETTY FUCKING GOOD
Hear me out, use Shudderblock with Chaotic Tendrils package. Becauss of 4 expansions, and a lot of shitty 10 mana spells rotated out, there is huge chance it will just cast Sunset Volley (deal 10 damaged shared among all enemies and summon 10 cost mana minions)
Cheat out the queen, enchant it with the cursed campaign and you get 16 mana worth of stuff in 2 turns. It takes proablly 1 turn to get through both if the 4/6s and you can just press the queen.
I think this might be a return of void lord
I mean we got shudderblock, do we get block saron for mage maybe?
Shudderblock + Hagatha for TWO YEARS you guys. FML.
Nemsy is like and endless void caller kinda awesome
0:00 the "legendary" Deathaxe Punisher?
Super excited for shaman this expansion! The cards look amazing and really fun. I've been telling you shaman knows what it wants, and it wants valuuue!
Rarran, we NEED D&D content!!!!
Totem shamen is gonna be so much fun
Wait, if you play Shudderblock and than his Mini, does the third Card trigger 9 Times? Also increase your Hand to 11 and get a Bluescreen when the Warlock card costs minus 1. Also Nemsy is pretty good. Pretty much immortal drawing and Summoning Demons all the Time. Sure not broken by herself, but pretty much infinite Value over Time.
My god shudder shaman with new cards looks fire
Shining Sentinel is just Arcane Defenders tho, even with buffs. Doesn't seem that insane
Interesting. Regis was far more pessimistic about Pipsi and much more optimistic about Hagatha. They agree that Shudderblock is broken.
Shudderblock into Zola seems funny.
Wheel of Death with Toxic Barrels though
Righteous protector + 2-3 stats on mana 2, in paladin it wont be a dead card most of the time
ALL MY STOCKS INTO BIG PALADIN BABY WE IN THIS BITCH
can't wait to play hagatha and *green* all my spells
In wild big demon dh is one of my favorites
looks like I can finally play hearthstone again
Hey rarran it'd be cool to have dnd on this channel. If you cant find a dm i'm avaliable ;)
Shaman mains we eatin gooood
how does Nemsy work with jaraxxus? Does he count as „a“ demon?
No
He used to back when he was a minion
recurit paladin is gonna go wild.
red card doesnt need to be used with the legendary, but it can be if the situation likes it, against control its deal 6 to face and red card can put a minion they want or a taunt away for lethal, and against aggro (if you can make it that far) it just shuts down the game for them
I dont think it works that well because I dont think demonhunter will be able to sustain even with that good 4 mana dude, but eehhh I can see it tried
Demon Hunter got 1 mana sap which is pretty good.
Japetto after mini shutter=3 shutter
"ya gotta draw the card. And then ya gotta play the card" Not saying i don't get what you mean but damn these kinds of statements always sound funny to me xD.
Apparently the dragon ball super fusion world game is like one piece and you can download and play it for free. It's fun hope you try it
How Low... I'd say that would be Kurt Cobain that made that joke the first time...
From Smells like Teen Spirit, hello hello hello how low...
Shudderblock Math goin crazy: if it stacked: shudderblock next battlecry x3, if mini: 1st battlecry would proc 3 times, 2nd 9 times, 3rd 27 times. And that is why they will not stack lmao
Shaman seems so good
31:35 Shuddering..
What's up book?
So if i cast shutterblock and then cast the mini i get 9 copies of a battle cry that cant go face
It doesn't work like that. It's "three times" not "three more times"
@@l.virsigah9079 I perceived it as it would triple the next battle cry. If I used a battle cry that triples the next battle cry it would make sense that the next battle cry would be 9x stronger. Maybe it's a side effect of having mtg as my card game of choice
@@daagonthebefeler7960No, it would still only trigger 3 times. The thing is that the card does not say "triple", it just says that the Battlecry triggers three times. If it helps, you can imagine that instead of "3 times", the card says "thrice."
If you still aren't convinced, then a perfect example would be the old Brann. That card made Battlecries trigger twice, and you couldn't increase it no matter how many Branns you had on the board, the Battlecries would still just trigger twice.
@@eamk887 also if you play battleground you're used to this kind of effects
Card over 5 mana in shaman:😊😊😊
Card over 5 mana in any other class:too slow😡😡😡
I mean they have 1 mana deal 2 and some 2 taunts, they have deal 15 to all minions w/ lifesteal, only warrior has that level of insane control, and odyn is probably the best card warrior has gotten for that reason.
It’s all about the control tools the classes have.
Shudder looks strong but tbh form what i see is that druid just kills u with 50 burn so what does a battlecry on t7 do
3 armor vendors to try and survive? 🤣
Turn 1-5: Excavate once
Turn 6: Shudderblock
Turn 7: Kobold Miner, miniblock, Azerite Murloc - all your minions are transformed into +9 cost ones
or in wild
Turn 6: Shudderblock, coin, miniblock
Turn 7: 2x Stonetusk Boar, fungalmancer, 38 to the face (or 2 totems on the board with the legendary that gives +2 attack to your totems)
@@petrjara7559 Shudderblock and miniblock shouldn't stack, since the wording is specifically "your next battlecry triggers 3 times". Tripling Miniblock does accomplish a whole lot of nothing.
@@zephyros256 So you either play excavate or Ignis or it's just completely useless... Nice. But "Cards cost X less" effect also stacks for no reason so there might be a hope. Also weird they restrict the effect to not damage heroes if you can't even make it 9x. The strongest battlecry is like what, Fire Elemental for 12 to the face? xD Or Skarr if you can consistently play elementals even in your shudderblock turn but since they have no problem with Brann -> Lorthemar -> Trenchstalker for 60 damage OTK where's the point of restricting 30 damage OTK with Skarr that you need to set up for 10 consecutive turns
@@petrjara7559 translating "Card cost X less" into the shudderblock effect would be "Your next battlecry occurs 2 more times". The shudderblock effect (to keep the card cost idea) is closer to "Card costs X" like naga sea witch (but on a battlecry).
Also, the effect is only on battlecry directly so any battlecry effect that indirectly attacks face is totally okay (like a "Do X damage to all enemies" spell that gets executed by the battlecry from those hagatha things.
Woohoo.... its gonna be aggro paladin for another season i guess...
Herm, no Rarran Shudderblock is not wild it’s in the rotation
You can just shuffle a ton of slime into your deck, then otk your opponent with the wheel of death, can't you? You can also play that 15-15 lifesteal legendary for free
ok fine hearthstone you win. ill start playing standard again
judge!! hes playing cards, thats illegal!
I just shuddered in my
Pants
I wanna Mutanus after Shudderblock.
Can't wait for shudder block astalor otks
Except it can't damage the enemy hero, so it's not an otk, it's just an enemy board clear.
@eamk887 ehh, it's still 1 mana get 3 astalors. Basically 2 cards can be an entire deck win con. Good game design lol. So 2 mana astalor into 3 5 mana, and if needed get 5 8 mana ones. Just get rid of astalor please lol. I use it and hate it but it's just free value wincon. Give it the daddy d treatment
Well red card might be playable in naga dh ig
deathrattle summon 3 zyliax
after about 3 years of not playing this game but keeping up with Rarran's content, i've decided to buy the pre-purchase bundle.
i would like to say i'm not happy about this.
my life is about to be consumed with pain and misery.
i hold you responsible Rarran.
God forsake Blizzard and this game
Magtheridon have a potential to brake the game (if its playable). I think that you doesnt realize how much damage for how long it may do. Especially if you play more copies of it. It is board clear and face damage same time. Absolutelly unstopable without Reno. Also Demon Hunter always cheating card cost. I may bet there will be DH nerfs in the 1st patch after expansion release.
1/1 Zola for 3 more locks
Oh yes!
Pipsi is cute
The red card is good spot removal
sudderblock is disgusting. a reason to quit HS for 2 years
rarren needs to stfu with saying how cards will be in arena
You changed bro
? That’s so random
Don't be weird